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1 [03:00] <rww> #startmeeting 2 [03:00] <darthrobot> Meeting started Mon Nov 17 03:00:15 2014 UTC. The chair is rww. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 3 [03:00] <darthrobot> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 4 [03:00] <rww> #topic Roll call 5 [03:00] <rww> Raise your hands in the air 6 [03:00] <rww> like you just don't care? 7 [03:00] <rww> o/ 8 [03:00] <DonkeyHotei> [Sun 2014-11-16 05:04:05 PM PST] <DonkeyHotei> o/ 9 [03:00] <nhaines> _o/ 10 [03:00] <ianorlin> o/ 11 [03:00] <eps> o| 12 [03:00] <elky> o/ 13 [03:01] <ianorlin> wait but I am left handed does that mean I should go \o 14 [03:01] <DonkeyHotei> Ã´ 15 [03:02] <rww> woohoo, people 16 [03:02] <elky> ianorlin: you should try use your offhand as much as possible so it stays strong :P 17 [03:02] <rww> alrighty, I'm going to take the topics in reverse chronological order because why not 18 [03:02] <rww> #topic Next meeting date 19 [03:02] <rww> Next meeting is scheduled for November 30th right now, which is on the Sunday of Thanksgiving week. 20 [03:02] <rww> I guess that's sub-optimal. Shall I suggest on the mailing list that we skip/postpone that one? 21 [03:03] <rww> (and if so, which of skip/postpone) 22 [03:03] <ianorlin> postpone 23 [03:03] <elky> skip 24 [03:03] <DonkeyHotei> maybe the previous sunday? 25 [03:03] <elky> the last few agendas have been so busy and all </s> 26 [03:03] <eps> skip until Dec. 14 27 [03:04] <rww> ianorlin: until the 7th I guess? 28 [03:04] <ianorlin> yes 29 [03:04] <nhaines> Skip. 30 [03:05] <DonkeyHotei> 3 skips so far 31 [03:06] <rww> If we postpone, it's 7th and 21st. if we skip, it's 14th and 28th 32 [03:06] * rww ponders 33 [03:06] <rww> or 7th and 14th I guess 34 [03:06] <DonkeyHotei> 21st is close to christmas, 28th is close to new year's 35 [03:07] <rww> I'll email the mailing list about meetings in december in general, and try to get consensus by the 23rd. Does that work for everyone? 36 [03:07] <ianorlin> yes 37 [03:07] <elky> yep 38 [03:07] <DonkeyHotei> " 39 [03:08] <eps> abstain 40 [03:08] <rww> #action rww to email ML tonight about December meetings, decision by 23rd 41 [03:08] <darthrobot> ACTION: rww to email ML tonight about December meetings, decision by 23rd 42 [03:08] <nhaines> Sounds good to me. 43 [03:08] <rww> #topic 2015 leadership election reminder 44 [03:09] <rww> This is pretty much just a note that we have an election coming up. Based on the timing last year, there should be a nomination period in December and election in January. 45 [03:09] <rww> jyo did it last year, but I'm not running this year and am fine with doing it instead. Whatever works. 46 [03:09] <rww> Anyone have any election-related comments? 47 [03:10] <DonkeyHotei> great because jyo is hereby nominated 48 [03:10] <rww> I forget whether nominations are self-nominations or not. 49 [03:10] <nhaines> I approve of elections in general. 50 [03:11] <DonkeyHotei> i believe both are acceptable 51 [03:11] <rww> yeah, looks like non-self was fine last year and jyo checked in with nominees before election to see if they actually want to run 52 [03:12] <rww> however, the nomination period isn't open yet, so hold that thought until it is ;) 53 [03:12] <rww> anyone have any questions/comments/concerns about that whole process? 54 [03:12] * ianorlin doesn't 55 [03:14] <rww> alrighty, moving onwards 56 [03:14] <rww> #topic SCaLE 57 [03:15] <rww> #link http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale13x 58 [03:15] <darthrobot> Title: [SCALE 13x | scale13x] 59 [03:15] <nhaines> I also approve of SCaLE in general. 60 [03:15] <DonkeyHotei> nhaines: you gonna do ubucon again? 61 [03:15] <rww> Looks like it's scheduled for February 19-22, 2015 this year, at Hilton LAX (again). 62 [03:16] <rww> If anyone's interested in presenting at SCaLE itself, see https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/cfp and submit a proposal by the 10th 63 [03:16] <darthrobot> Title: [Call for Papers | SCALE 13x] 64 [03:16] <rww> Who's planning on going so far? (I'm not, busy at work around then.) 65 [03:16] <eps> I hope most of you have already made arrangements. Affordable travel and accommodations are going to disappear soon, if they haven't already. Cheap seats on Megabus are already sold out. 66 [03:17] <nhaines> I'm planning to be there. I'll take charge of the booth this year. 67 [03:18] <DonkeyHotei> affordable accommodations never *completely* sold out before, just needed an extra drive 68 [03:18] <eps> We need a discount code for regular attendees and the usual packet for workers. 69 [03:18] <rww> nhaines: do you want to coordinate with the SCaLE folks to get the booth registered and such? 70 [03:18] <nhaines> Ooh, tht's a good idea. Yeah, I'll handle that this year and get the discount code and stuff. 71 [03:19] <eps> This year looks different ... the usual overflow hotels are horrendously expensive, suggesting there's another major event on those dates. 72 [03:19] <nhaines> eps: that all comes together with the packet. 73 [03:19] <rww> nhaines: ta. CC: the leadership folks on emails so we know status please :) 74 [03:20] <ianorlin> I am 75 [03:20] <eps> Note that SCaLE has expanded to four days. 76 [03:20] <rww> also, I notice that since action can't be taken on non-agendized items, I'll be emailing the list asking for input before making that decision "official" 77 [03:20] <rww> so hold off about a week 78 [03:20] <rww> #action rww to email list about SCaLE, recommending voluntelling nhaines to coordinate booth work 79 [03:20] <darthrobot> ACTION: rww to email list about SCaLE, recommending voluntelling nhaines to coordinate booth work 80 [03:20] <nhaines> Sounds good to me. 81 [03:20] <eps> Put SCaLE discussion on the next agenda. 82 [03:21] <rww> #action rww to add SCaLE to the next meeting agenda when he makes the next meeting agenda tonight 83 [03:21] <darthrobot> ACTION: rww to add SCaLE to the next meeting agenda when he makes the next meeting agenda tonight 84 [03:21] <rww> (I'll date it for the 30th, until we decide what date to move it to) 85 [03:23] <rww> Any other SCaLE comments/questions/discussion? 86 [03:23] <DonkeyHotei> look for accommodations in the Monterey Park area? 87 [03:24] <eps> DonkeyHotei: that's a bit of a commute 88 [03:24] <DonkeyHotei> yep 89 [03:24] <ianorlin> my commute is from Torrance 90 [03:24] <ianorlin> at my parents house 91 [03:25] <DonkeyHotei> torrance is closer 92 [03:28] <rww> if anyone needs to do rideshare and such, that'd be something to bring up in here pretty shortly 93 [03:28] <rww> anyways, next topic 94 [03:28] <rww> #topic Event ideas 95 [03:28] <DonkeyHotei> personally i can't afford to attend at all without free room & board atm, but if i did, my car seats 5 total 96 [03:29] <eps> nhaines: Do you approve of events in general? 97 [03:30] <DonkeyHotei> i approve of NorCal events in particular 98 [03:31] <nhaines> eps: indeed I do! 99 [03:31] * eps does too 100 [03:32] <rww> any ideas for them? :3 101 [03:32] <nhaines> Every so often OCLUG talks about the old Linux Day events they used to host at Microcenter. 102 [03:32] <nhaines> It might be fun to do that sort of thing. 103 [03:33] <rww> what's a Linux Day? 104 [03:34] <nhaines> They set up a table inside or in front of Microcenter with Linux on them and showed it off, gave out discs, and probably recommended some systems that were compatible. 105 [03:34] <ianorlin> ah nice 106 [03:34] <DonkeyHotei> NorCal no longer has a Microcenter 107 [03:34] <eps> DonkeyHotei: whaaa? 108 [03:34] <ianorlin> except I might lose money from spending it 109 [03:35] <DonkeyHotei> eps: they closed a couple years back 110 [03:35] <DonkeyHotei> 2010 i think 111 [03:35] <eps> Darn. Looks like just Tustin now. 112 [03:36] <nhaines> Oh, bummer. 113 [03:36] <DonkeyHotei> they didn't even tell the employees not to show up for work at the time 114 [03:38] <eps> Well, I guess we'll have to find another place to warn people about Bay Trail-based hardware. 115 [03:38] <nhaines> Anyway, it might be fun to organize these kinds of events at smaller computer shops. I'm going to try and gather information from those who ran the last ones. 116 [03:39] <DonkeyHotei> there are smaller computer shops? 117 [03:40] <nhaines> yes. When you look at all computer shops, they are of various sizes. 118 [03:42] <rww> as far as tabling goes, there's also farmers markets and other community gathering type stuff 119 [03:44] <nhaines> That's true. I've pondered the idea of exhibiting at swap meets or farmers markets. 120 [03:46] <rww> #topic Any Other Business 121 [03:46] <rww> anything else anyone would like to cover tonight? 122 [03:46] * DonkeyHotei puts a lid on it 123 [03:47] <nhaines> I'm good for now. 124 [03:47] * eps moves for adjournment 125 [03:48] <rww> and I think everyone else wandered off 126 [03:48] <nhaines> I approve of adjourment in general. 127 [03:48] * rww bans meeting hammer 128 [03:48] <rww> #endmeeting 129 [03:48] <darthrobot> Meeting ended Mon Nov 17 03:48:55 2014 UTC. 130 [03:48] <darthrobot> Minutes: http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2014/ubuntu-us-ca.2014-11-17-03.00.moin.txt