DesktopTeam/Meeting/2009-02-10

2009-02-10

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Present

Alexander Sack (asac)
Bryce Harrington (bryce)
Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)
Martin Pitt (pitti) - chair
Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)

Apologies

Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje) - on holiday
Chris Cheney (calc) - Sun OOo meeting
Rick Spencer (rickspencer3) - managers' sprint

Agenda

Outstanding actions from last meeting
Sponsoring Overview update
Release Status
Review activity reports
Any other business

Outstanding actions from last meeting

ACTION: rickspencer3 to follow up on status of security review for MIR
- Result: No progress
ACTION: rickspencer3 to work with mvo/robbiew to get the work for Language selector done for Jaunty, community involvement?
- Result: discussed with robbiew. Decision was that mvo will finish up his part asap. Post Jaunty it will be owned by the desktop team.
ACTION: pitti to discuss costs and requirements of graphical non-X based installers with cjwatson
- Result: Discussed with Rick Clark and Colin. The graphical installer is not a goal for server in 9.04, request is coming from Steve George. Need to discuss things with him.
ACTION: pitti/asac to respond to MIR for Riddel/Kubuntu
- Result: All currently outstanding ones processed
ACTION: rickspencer3 to compile spec work status and resend
- Result: Done: /WorkItems

Actions from this meeting

ACTION: Martin to start discussion with Steve George, Colin Watson, and Rick Clark about requirements for graphical installer
ACTION: Bryce to triage https://launchpad.net/bugs/309482
ACTION: Rick to clarify work items list (how to keep it up to date, and which things should be in in it)

Sponsoring

Due to the sprint last week, we did not get to doing sponsoring (deliberately). Consequently the queue is huge now, and we need to spend some extra time on it. Special thanks to Sebastien for cleaning it up a lot already!

Release status

Martin updated /ReleaseStatus today. Bug list halved since last week. There is one new potential issue in the nv driver which needs triaging. Bryce agreed to look into this.

Bryce reported that he is currently tracking several X problems which cause suspend or crash issues.

Work items

Alexander mentioned that his current work items are just for his specs, but he has a lot of commitments which are not covered by specs. Rick should clarify how to use this tool and keep the work items up to date, as well as which kind of things belong into the list.

KDE support in OpenOffice.org

Chris reported that it is possible to build OO.o without Qt/KDE support, to save space and get rid of the old KDE 3 libraries which Kubuntu wants to drop.

However, that would mean to drop the KDE widgets as well as KDE file selector and print dialog, thus a big regression in usability.

Jonathan says that the Kubuntu CDs are not tight on space and can afford keeping it.

Result: Keep Qt/KDE support enabled.

Activity reports

Alexander Sack (asac)

NetworkManager

new modemmanager/networkmanager/nm applet build for f3507g modems in ~modemmanager PPA
- test connect time improvements
rebased all pppd patches to 2.4.5~git snapshot
bug work for -applet and daemon
looking into bumping dhcpcd to latest upstream version (4.0.10) as we have a quite outdated version 3.2.3-2

Mozilla

(upstream) security updates; final patches landed; tarballs produce
(distro) security update packages pushed to
discuss nss advisory with security team
mozilla major change process discussing; put on-hold
talked to mozilla #jsapi folks about ABI/API policy and making #mozjs a first tier lib on !ubuntu; seems we make progress
investigate shutdown crashes we see for firefox-3.1 due to jemalloc (bug: 319480)
fix seamonkey-2.0.head branch to unblock community contributors
fix thunderbird-3.0.head branch for intrepid/jaunty (both failed to build in daily archive)
updated firefox-3.1 package in jaunty to new b3pre snapshot
make intel connection manager (#connman) prototype packages available in #network-manager team PPA

Misc

some MIR processing
apturl policy call and drafting with mvo
sponsored #nmap 4.76-0ubuntu2 to #ubuntu #jaunty
sprint preparation: upgrade my X61 to jaunty

Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)

No report received, on holiday.

Bryce Harrington (bryce)

Distro Work

Sponsoring: gegl (#315778), avahi (#308856), apache2 (#318179), hal-info (#304818), gnumeric (#311571). Unsubbed 52697, 270584, 286924 since already committed to bzr.
Worked some more on data gathering scripts for bug graphing
Berlin sprint

Xorg Work

Triaged xserver-xorg-video-intel bugs
Call with AMD about -fglrx. Still awaiting updated driver.
Reviewed/uploaded/MIR'd dontzap stuff from Alberto
Wrote up guide on troubleshooting High CPU bugs.
- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting
- We get a lot of reports about this, but it's usually not X at fault but rather some client service or app.
- Triaged/reassigned/closed whole bunch of high-cpu issues files against X
Helped a lot of sprinters with misc. X problems
Worked a bit on historical driver packages page
Sponsored several X patches
Organized UXA testing activities
Updates to troubleshooting documentation, wrote page on keyboard/mouse failures due to HAL
Tested all projectors in conference hall; helped several people in testing their laptops against projectors; forwarded several resultant bug reports to appropriate places.

2-week Plan

xorg.conf Backup/Recovery work
XSmoke testing
Help Alberto get xorg-options-editor into Universe
Integrate apport support into bulletproof-x mode
Focus on my assigned bugs list, bugs fixed upstream, and bug reports
- with patches attached.

Chris Cheney (calc)

Uploaded dictionaries-common 0.9.14ubuntu1 to hardy (ppa), intrepid (ppa), jaunty
Uploaded suitesparse 1:3.2.0-1ubuntu1 to intrepid (ppa), jaunty - with libcolamd split out
Uploaded lp-solve 5.5.0.13-3ubuntu1 to intrepid (ppa), jaunty - built against libcolamd
Uploaded openoffice.org 1:3.0.1-1ubuntu1 to hardy (ppa), intrepid (ppa), jaunty
Uploaded openoffice.org-l10n 1:3.0.1-1ubuntu1 to hardy (ppa), intrepid (ppa), jaunty
Uploaded libvoikko 2.0-1build0 to hardy (ppa), intrepid (ppa)
Uploaded openoffice.org-voikko 3.0.1-1ubuntu0 to hardy (ppa), intrepid (ppa)
Sponsored xfree86-driver-synaptics 0.99.3-2ubuntu2 to jaunty
Forwarded bug report about broken libx11 to Bryce which he has fixed
Verified Mandriva does not use Qt/KDE support in OOo, we can disable as well if we want to
Working on ooo split build packaging for jaunty ppa
Weekly OOo Release Status Meetings
Weekly desktop team meeting
Lots of OOo bug triage
Jaunty Sprint : Jan 31 - Feb 7
Sun OOo Meeting : Feb 8 - Feb 12

I won't be able to attend tomorrow either as I will be at the Sun office all day and can't get my internet access working there for some reason. Its a very strange issue.

Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)

done:

tested and fixed and released alpha 4
system-config-printer-kde progressing nicely, nearly feature complete for jaunty
testing kdebluetooth, seems to be working again
repackaged Amarok to include mysql in the same package, now in main
promoted kpackagekit to main and put in the seeds
tested update-notifier-kde with fixes from mvo and rgreening, uploaded with own fix
half day archive admin plus teaching archive admin skills to Dustin
fix kdenetwork which had files in the wrong packages
packaged KDevelop 4 Beta
Added qedje to plasma packages
Updates avahi for pcap2

blocked:

nothing, yay

Martin Pitt (pitti)

Assigned blueprints: implemented

Currently open stable/milestoned bugs: none

Done:

Boost 1.34 -> 1.35 transition
Dissected acpi-support and wrote plan for obsoleting it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AcpiSupportDeprecation
Committed acpi-support suspend quirks to hal-info
Dropped some obsolete bits from acpi-support
Analyzed and fixed glib2.0 translations.tar.gz corruption, which broke both translations and soyuz
Merged OpenSUSE's and our gettext-for-desktop-files patches, fixed, sent upstream; arguing with them now
Release team meeting
Platform sprint: Learned a lot about hotkeys and their problems, fixed a bunch of them, improved desktop startup speed

Sponsoring:

uploaded: totem, totem-pl-parser, consolekit, gdm-guest-session, glib2.0, ntfs-3g
discussed, not suitable for upload: pm-utils, sqlite3

Sebastien Bacher (seb128)

Jaunty Distro Sprint:
- several discussion with the dxteam during the week
- worked on desktop login speed
- lot of other discussions, random jaunty testing, etc
GNOME updates: gvfs, nautilus, deskbar-applet, file-roller, glib, gnome-utils, gtk+, gnome-panel, libsoup, gedit, gtkhtml, alacarte, gnome-applets, gnome-media, eog, glade3, libgnomecanvas
changed libgnome to not force a 96 dpi value
sponsoring: bluez, evolution, evolution-data-server, evolution-exchange, gcalctool, glib, gnome-games, gnome-pilot, gnome-session, gtksourceview2, obex-data-server, pidgin
did some extra cleaning on the sponsoring list and pinged some people about easy uploads waiting for a while to get those uploaded
reviewed and discussed several other updates with desktop contributors
updated gnome-media, gnome-applets and gnome-control-center to use the intrepid versions of the sound control capplets

Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)