<> For minutes of previous meetings, please see DesktopTeam/Meeting. = Meeting Minutes = == Present == === Main Meeting === * Alexander Sack (asac) * Alberto Milone (tseliot) * Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje) * Chris Cheney (calc) * Jonathan Riddell (Riddell) * Ken VanDine (kenvandine) * Martin Pitt (pitti) - chair * Sebastien Bacher (seb128) * Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter) * Tony Espy === Eastern Edition === * Luke Yelavich (TheMuso) * Robert Ancell (robert_ancell) == Apologies == * Rick Spencer (rickspencer3) * Bryce Harrington (bryce) == Agenda == * Outstanding actions from last meeting * Changed bug reporting process * Partner Update * Kubuntu Update * Release Bugs/Release Status * Ricks' heartache list * Review work items * Review activity reports * Any other business == Actions from this meeting == * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage: TheMuso to update the page for audio * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage: robert_ancell to update the page for compiz * pitti to talk to bdmurray about +filebug feedback (Done, see bug Bug:432088) * Riddell to clean up Kubuntu/Todo/Karmic == Outstanding actions from last meeting == * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage: TheMuso to update the page for audio * Not done, pushed to this week * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage: robert_ancell to update the page for compiz * Not done, pushed to this week * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage: pitti to update the page for storage devices * Done == Changed bug reporting process == Feedback about the `+filebug` redirection: * many bugs can legitimately be filed without apport information (such as translation bugs), wishlist bugs, or UI problems * Devs still want an easily accessible "file it anyway" link * Proposal from Alex: Firefox protocol handler like apturl (`ubuntu-bug:file/firefox-3.5`), but that requires new code and will only work with Firefox * Ideal solution: `+filebug` page shows wiki page contents and offers a "file it anyway" link at the bottom * Compromise: Disable redirection for `~ubuntu-bug-control` members. ''ACTION:'' pitti to talk to bdmurray about +filebug feedback Done in bug Bug:432088; other developers proposed the same solution. == Partner Update == === UbuntuOne: === * Online services team is sprinting this week, and I haven't gotten an update from them yet * couchdb * split server from the rest of couch so it doesn't start at boot * bindwood * we need bug fix release with oauth enabled * desktopcouch * we need bug fix release with oauth enabled (to allow syncing) * ubuntuone-client * There will likely be a UI freeze exception requested to deal with the preferences dialog usability issue Martin pointed out that enabling oauth and peer-to-peer sync is a new feature which comes very late. === DX: === * [[DesktopExperienceTeam/KarmicWeeklyReleases|Weekly releases]] * user list in the session applet * menu ordering bug * notify-osd crashers * New gdm artwork still needs to land == Kubuntu Update == * DVDs oversized, next Amarok upload may fix that * OEM installer broken, but broken in Ubuntu Desktop too * Upgrade from Jaunty works but with some config file quirks that I need to work around * jockey and apport still need investigation == Rick's list of heartache == ==== Boot ==== * lots of incoming bugs about not being able to boot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.tag=ubuntu-boot * under active investigation (mostly by Scott) * lots of messages and other crufty looking things: * many of them were already fixed in latest udev ==== Empathy ==== * audio/video is crashy: * Ken will spend some time debugging this this week * Audio has been relatively stable since recently * Video is broken and consistently crashing * Ken will talk to cassidy (upstream) * New telepathy-farsight was synced yesterday and is supposed to help a lot * not interacting well with messaging menu ==== X ==== * Is there something keeping compiz from working on intel 945? * Race condition on boot, sometimes does not load DRM modules and thus enable KMS and acceleration * related to bug Bug:392039 and bug 431812, Scott proposed a solution in the bug ==== Gwibber ==== * Not displaying messages atm * Not reproducible; Rick needs to file a bug * crashy, including daemon * Not reproducible; Rick needs to file a bug * not interacting well with messaging * fixed yesterday ==== Session menu ==== * haven't implemented user list yet (regression) * tracked in bug Bug:422052 * gdm offers the API now * status interactions with apps not working well * needs to be ported to telepathy-mission-control-5 (right now it uses the 4 API) * scheduled to land on Thursday ==== work items ==== * above trend line * asac still has quite a few open items * status of Arne's work? See below ==== software-store ==== * looking good * needs more testing? * is it showing up in the right places? * In Applications menu now, where it belongs * Extra entry in System → Administration menu; filed as bug 435123 with a tested solution == Work items == Way above the trend line right now. Most problematic ones: * Kubuntu/Todo/Karmic: 25 open items; Riddell says that many can be closed * UbuntuSpec:desktop-karmic-firefox-3.5 : mostly cleanup left, which can be done post-beta * A lot of the remaining items are QA/test plan/release notes items which are suitable for post-beta ACTION: Riddell to clean up Kubuntu/Todo/Karmic == Activity reports == === Alexander Sack (asac) === * finish autoconnect-inhibit (disconnect) network-manager feature and committed upstream * lots of work on 0.8 network manager applet UI changes; prototyping various approaches and trying to get upstream to give a GO; still decision pending * update gnome-bluetooth, webkit to latest upstream * update finish epiphany to webkit migration; fix and upstream greasemonkey fixes for epiphany extensions; also fixed gw2get to work with latest ephy. * work on networkmanager/modemmanager PUK issues; propose a solution with upstream; settled on doing it different (more work) LP: * ported galeon to xulrunner 1.9.1 * fixed listen package to not depend on xulrunner (just webkit) === Alberto Milone (tseliot) === * Bug triage for -ati, -intel, -fglrx. Upstreamed ATI bug #429251.Upstreamed Intel bugs #429241, #429191. * Provided Felix Kuehling (AMD) with feedback about his patch for X which can't be included in Karmic. * Reviewed and approved Mario Limonciello's patch to work around card detection problems in the -nv driver, uploaded his fix to my PPA for testing. The fix is now in Karmic (LP: #385658) * Worked on -intel issue about suspend/resume with Compiz (#429241): * Added a fix in mesa to correct the relocation delta for WM surfaces. Uploaded mesa to Karmic. * Worked with Andy Whitcroft so that the problem is solved in the kernel too. The result is in: http://people.canonical.com/~apw/lp429241-karmic/ . The combination of the two (the latter will be uploaded after the freeze) solves the problem. * Discussed critical bugs (affecting -intel) for Karmic with Intel engineers. * [ATI R6xx and above] X fails to start up after mesa+git update (LP: #419126): * After discussing the problem with Alex Deucher (AMD) I decided to disable the 3D driver for r600 in mesa. * Experimental support for this driver will be provided in a PPA. * Investigated problems with Intel Arrandal Video controller (#416792) together with Andy. I asked Intel about the error affecting tiling on the front buffer. Andy will integrate the new patches from Intel in Karmic. * Filed bug report against ubuntu-release-notes so that my instructions on DontZap can be added (#432384). * Synaptics driver: provided upstream with a small correction about the type of the Synaptics Area options in the man page of synaptics. This fix will enter Karmic too. * Discussed #409456 with NVIDIA. I'm working on the changes as suggested by kees. * Changed the section of the -modaliases packages (in fglrx and nvidia) to "admin" as the packages are not "restricted" (LP: #429153). Will upload it after the freeze. === Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje) === * langpack-o-matic: * build new language packs for Karmic, Jaunty and Hardy * language-selector: * write a script to do the language-support completeness check independently from gnome-language-selector. This can be called by other applications to figure out which packages are still missing on the system for a given language code. * Rosetta import queue cleaning === Bryce Harrington (bryce) === === Chris Cheney (calc) === * OEM work * uploaded openoffice.org 1:3.1.1-2ubuntu1. * Lots of OOo bug triage === Jonathan Riddell (Riddell) === done: * Alpha 6 testing, fixing, testing, resize CDs, testing, release * libindicate patch and plasmoid updates * Package new Konversation beta * update webkitkde package * archive admin half day * jaunty upgrade testing * trying to get DVDs within size limit todo: * fix jaunty upgrade problems * get DVDs built within size limit and test * test oem-installer * investigate jockey-kde and apport-kde issues === Ken VanDine (kenvandine) === ===== Done: ===== * Prepared weekly releases for most of the DX packages * updated python-indicate to support the new libindicate API * finished up the indicator support in empathy (thanks Robert!) * added green dot support * added avatar * gwibber indicator work * mostly done with fixing up notifications in gwibber * fixed the progress throbber in gwibber ===== Planned: ===== * Prepare DX package uploads * chase down the last glib critical in empathy * debug video calls in empathy * polish off the gwibber notifications (prevent it from spamming notify-osd) * perhaps fix the broken indicator support in gajim === Luke Yelavich (TheMuso) === Accessibility: * Continued debugging of speech-dispatcher pulseaudio output code. I have come to the conclusion that the pulseaudio output code +needs tobe optimized a lot more, and more functions to help with better performance/latency need to be used from the pulse API. +This shouldn't be too much work, if I can find some example code as a reference. Hope to land this by beta, if not ASAP afterwards. * Uploaded new versions of orca, gok, and mousetweaks, all version 2.28.0 to karmic. Audio: * Audio bug triaging, bugs in question are against pulseaudio, alsa userspace, and the kernel for hardware enablement. * Uploaded pulseaudio v0.9.18 plus a couple of extra fixes from the 0.9.18 stable branch to karmic, thanks to Daniel chen for his +help. * Updated libcanberra with some bug fixes from git head. * Added files for libcanberra to play a login sound when gdm loads. This is still not working, so it needs to be debugged. Misc: * A little sponsoring, less than I should, I know. :) === Martin Pitt (pitti) === Karmic feature work: * desktop-karmic-automagic-python-build-system: * beta available * just the upstream discussion is missing (which isn't bound by release cycle) * desktop-karmic-symptom-based-bug-reporting: implemented * security-karmic-apport-abort: implemented * [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy|hal deprecation]]: * this is as far as we can get in karmic, we won't change further things after FF * I'm happy about how far we got * gnome-panel speedup: pretty much "postponed", didn't have time for that Other work done: * MIR reviews * PostgreSQL security update for stables * Apport retracer maintenance * Bug fixing: apport, cups, gconf, gdm, gdm-guest-session, gnumeric, hal, hdparm, jockey, libatasmart, udev * Package updates to new upstream versions: devicekit-disks, gnome-disk-utility, gnome-power-manager, libatasmart * Discussed DVD downsizing, did seed changes * Fixed seeds for translation related packages * Fought with non-booting karmic, reinstalled my workstation * Ported indicator-session to polkit-1 * Set up gnome version script on my server * Updated our artwork packages license/copyright * usplash-theme-ubuntu: disable progress bar Sponsoring: * bindwood, desktopcouch, empathy, mesa, pidgin-libnotify, papyon, ttf-liberation === Robert Ancell (robert_ancell) === * Package update/merges: gcalctool, yelp, file-roller, eog, gnome-games, gdm, gtkmm2.4, glibmm2.4, pangomm, gnome-python-desktop, gnome-icon-theme, gnome-control-center, liboobs, gnome-doc-utils * Updated DebuggingCompiz Wiki instructions * Empathy patch work === Sebastien Bacher (seb128) === * GNOME 2.28 updates: gnome-keyring gtksourceview totem-pl-parser rhythmbox cheese gnome-applets gnome-system-monitor alacarte evolution-data-server evolution evolution-exchange gconf-editor vino nautilus-sendto vinagre totem-pl-parser totem gvfs gnome-python intltool nautilus gedit gnome-utils gnome-keyring gnome-desktop zenity gnome-panel gnome-menus libwnck seahorse evince libgweather gnome-session * looked at why some software using gdesktopapp to read desktop files are not translated * updated default gnome-panel profile to not have an email launcher since the message indicator has those * uploaded an indicator-messages fix to use translations correctly * uploaded new evolution-indicator * did some notify-osd testing and got some valgrind logs about a frequent crasher * desktop bugs triage and started nominating things for karmic * karmic cds testing * updated gnome-panel and gnome-menus to move the software store according to the new design team recommendation * uploaded bratsche's xsplash changes to gnome-panel and nautilus * sponsoring: totem libindicate ubuntuone-client farsight2 gnome-themes ubuntuone-storage-protocol deskbar-applet xsplash indicate-python libdbusmenu indicator-session gucharmap gtksourceview2 gcalctool empathy pangomm gnome-games gtkmm2.4 gnome-control-center zenity === Tony Espy (awe) === === Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter) === * Uploaded system-config-printer: Integration of the new "dnssd" CUPS backend. It produced a lot of duplicate entries of the same printer and so cluttered the list of discovered printers a lot. * Uploaded foomatic-db, foomatic-db-engine, ghostscript, hplip, gutenprint, splix, and all other printer driver packages to make the PPD auto-updates in the post-install scripts not ask for the server's password if the user has set a remote server via client.conf. * Fixed CUPS bugs: Double-sided printing did not work on PostScript printers when the "sides" command line option for "lp"/"lpr" was used (LP: #411392), for options with an underscore (or any other allowed non-alphanumeric character) in their names the default settings were not conserved when the PPD got replaced ("lpadmin -p ... -m ...", system-config-printer, automatic PPD update for existing print queues, LP: #432902). * Answered and triaged printing-related bug reports. ---- [[CategoryDesktopTeam]]<
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