For minutes of previous meetings, please see DesktopTeam/Meeting.
- Martin Pitt (pitti) - chair
- Alberto Milone (tseliot)
Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)
- Bryce Harrington (bryce)
- Chris Cheney (ccheney)
- Didier Roche (didrocks)
Ken VanDine (kenvandine)
- Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
Luke Yelavich (TheMuso)
- Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)
- Rick Spencer (rickspencer3)
- Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)
- Outstanding actions from last meeting
- Partner Update
- Kubuntu Update
- Release Bugs/Release Status
- Post A3 Mindset
- Review activity reports
- Any other business
Actions from this meeting
- Martin to review post-alpha 3 desktop team blueprints and discuss with Rick and Robbie what to drop
Martin to discuss remaining two WIs for desktop-lucid-compiz-effects with Rick
- Bryce to BP/WIify new work assigned on the sprint
Alberto to add missing alpha-3 WIs to foundations-lucid-boot-experience
Outstanding actions from last meeting
- Online Services:
- libubuntuone, the gtk widgets will get uploaded to lucid this week
- - dependency for rhythmbox music store plugin and the new U1 config tool.
- rhythmbox plugin should follow closely behind libubuntuone, but I expect next week.
- U1 config tool, which replaces the current applet, is still on track to land before feature freeze.
- libubuntuone, the gtk widgets will get uploaded to lucid this week
MeMenu landed in Lucid (with gwibber integration)
- Large churn in indicator/dbusmenu packages last week, there are known bugs but please don't hesitate to file new ones. We need to smooth this out ASAP.
ido (Indicator Disaplay Objects) was uploaded last week, this contains the extra gtk widgets needed by indicators. Currently used for Gwibber integration in the MeMenu and indicator-sound (also due to upload this week).
We revisited http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-desktop-team-lucid-alpha-3.html, since we are slightly over the trend line:
- Bryce got some additional work at the sprint, will add WIs
desktop-lucid-startup-speed: We can't have Robert, drop gnome-panel speed up
desktop-lucid-xorg-triaging-diagnosis: targets of opportunity, but will benefit and ease X.org triaging work in the long run; potentially deferrable/droppable
desktop-lucid-social-from-the-start: Potentially droppable, targets of opportunity
desktop-lucid-xorg-proprietary-drivers: Some are done now, Alberto to update WI status; he might need help with those for alpha-3
desktop-lucid-compiz-effects: Remaining two are a lot of work, and highly questionable; should be dropped, but Martin to confirm/discuss with Rick
- please help as you can with bug triaging/fixing
- Pedro will organize a [bh]ug day
- since we'll be concentrating on bug fixes, it's not very likely that we can keep this in the default install for lucid; however, revisiting this is a beta-1 work item, so we did not discuss it further in the meeting
Post A3 Mindset
- switch from feature work to quality work
- Find and fix the worst bugs
Focus on upgrade experience, LTS -> LTS, Karmic -> Lucid
Alberto Milone (tseliot)
Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)
- create a web poll about the preferred desktop fonts on the LiveCD
- got ttf-liberation font package seeded onto the LiveCD
discussed the font integration into software-center idea wit the Design team -> won't happen for Lucid or Lucid+1, therefor postpone the discussion about the details until we are ready for it.
- finished the transfer to the new server
- fixed some bugs in po2xpi which broke firefox translations in devmode for languages with country codes in the locale
- Firefox-3.6 transition for Lucid
- built new language packs for Lucid
- updated language-support-writing meta packages based on the new oo.o version in Lucid.
Bryce Harrington (bryce)
- File Main Inclusion Request to move -nouveau to main
- Draft release notes itemizing the functionality -nouveau provides over -nv, and for which chipsets
- Talk to kernel team about nouveau plans
- Prepare PPA of just nouveau bits we plan to put into lucid
- Document a contingency plan to revert -nouveau if needed
- craft a recipe for testing nouveau
- Patch xserver to prefer "nouveau" instead of "nv"
- Plan tasks for uploading nouveau to lucid
- Swap each of my nvidia cards and re-test nouveau with each
- Provide a X/Troubleshooting/ page for dealing with transition issues
- By Alpha-3 at latest, make a go/no-go decision on -nouveau vs. reverting to -nv
- Figure out licensing situation for nouveau's firmware blob
- Cleanup X/KernelModeSetting and include docs for turning KMS *off*
- Fix up libeagle with shlibs
- Fix libeagle/wayland packaging
- libeagle might need some shlibs-love, to make sure the deps get right (for packages that depend on it)
- USB Video
- Receive displaylink devices from jerone, with commitment to make it work.
- Receive displaylink device from persia, with commitment to make it work.
- Receive VGA-over-USB device from davidm, with commitment to make it work.
Research USB Video / DisplayLink / etc.
Compare persia's DisplayLink with jerone's
- Intel Driver
- Receive Dell mini-v device from rick-spencer, with commitment to making it work.
- Review jesse's directions for triggering a freeze
- Unprivate -intel bugs
- Work with pitti on getting apport hook functioning
- Kernel / X graphics meeting
- Demo wayland PPA to interested people
- Investigate firefox breakage. Uninstall firefox-greasemonkey. Recover from loss of ~/.mozilla
- Advise Mirco on Xorg issue with GL functionality on -intel
Get dorset set up for mirco to do Dx development Status:Done
- Advise jamie strand on Xorg issues
- Triage Bug 513950 - Jamie's xfreeze with compiz but no kms
- Triage bug #513956 - jamie's garbled compiz screen on ATI
- Follow up jamie's bug 507148
Advise jcastro on X issue with GPU freeze when using GnomeDo
- Advise bdmurray on X issue with HP touchscreen
- Advise Cody on Xorg issue with rgba client-side failure
- Advise lifeless on 3 Xorg issues with i965
- Advise lifeless on Xorg issue with blanked screen
- Advise DavidM on Xorg issue with VGA-over-USB devices
Advise persia on Xorg issue with DisplayLink support
- merge patches from lifeless
- Find out why json import failed for brian
- Send hugh prioritized list of suggested candidates
- Collapse in a heap
- Start filing expense report (but I need mileage rates before I can submit it)
- Upload -nohwaccess patch for xserver
- Upload patch for requiring KMS in -intel
- Experiment setting up rootless-X. Create a demo script. Send to Google. Follow up with foundations team.
- Sponsor patch for: [Bug 389289] Re: Cannot query freedesktop.org's bugzilla
Chris Cheney (ccheney)
- Sick Jan 28-29
- Continue to work on libsoup2.4
- Tested and got mumble fixed
- Uploaded openoffice.org 1:3.2.0~rc4-1ubuntu1
- Uploaded openoffice.org-l10n 1:3.2.0~rc4-1ubuntu1
- Uploaded openoffice.org-hyphenation 0.4
- Merged packages:
- Uploaded pentaho-reporting-flow-engine-openoffice.org 0.9.2-OOo31-3ubuntu1
- Uploaded liblayout-openoffice.org 0.2.9-OOo31-3ubuntu1
- Uploaded openthesaurus 20080808-3ubuntu1
- Uploaded hunspell 1.2.8-6ubuntu1
- Uploaded openoffice.org-dictionaries 3.2.0~rc4-1ubuntu1
- Uploaded hyphen 2.4-6ubuntu1
- Dictionary transition
- Uploaded dict-nr 20070206-4
- Uploaded dict-ns 20070206-4
- Uploaded dict-ss 20070206-4
- Uploaded dict-st 20070206-4
- Uploaded dict-tn 20070206-4
- Uploaded dict-ts 20070207-4
- Uploaded dict-ve 20070206-3
- Uploaded dict-xh 20070206-4
- Uploaded dict-zu 20070207-5
- Uploaded magyarispell 1.2-0ubuntu2
- Uploaded myspell-hr 20060617-2ubuntu1
- Uploaded openoffice.org-thesaurus-pl 1.5-3ubuntu1
- Reported bugs to Debian about bgoffice, ispell-fi, and medicalterms not being properly transitioned.
Didier Roche (didrocks)
- GNOME updates:
- 2.29.4 release: totem, totem-pl-parser, gcalctool, brasero, gtksourceview2
- 2.29.90 release: seahorse-plugins, brasero, vinagre
- sponsor: yelp apport hook, gwibber
- Patch for caching wallpaper(s) resize at startup, still in discussion with upstream
- Port a patch about grouping windows in mutter
- package/fix package/review buhugger and quickly-widgets
- clean UNE stack (netbooklauncher, ubuntu-netbook-default-settings) and hide search for files
- UNE now get abiword and gnumeric
- g-c-c: WI: "Hide capplet panel choosing the window manager if mutter is running"
(the panel is not really hidden, but a warning when mutter is running is displayed and it's disabling other switchers, as when compiz isn't in the path)
- Closed WI Audit packages/modules related to runtime parts of the UNE session that may be impacted by installed packages
- Closed WI fix "search for files" in app menu
- some unfinished work on compiz and metacity about not showing tooltip on toolbar. Will be ready next week
talked with upstream about one ws should hide the ws switcher, but they don't like the idea: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=606966. Still want to port it in metacity for UNE default.
- testing some bzr new workflow for packaging with merge-upstream (debugging, fix some part with upstream and james_w)
Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)
Ken VanDine (kenvandine)
- Lots of Gwibber/SFTS work
- Released 2.29.1
Finished off the MeMenu integration
- Uploaded to universe
- Updated empathy to 2.29.90
- Updated libindicate patch to handle timestamps from libindicate
- Added LP menus for chat windows
- Packaged ido
- Updated libubuntuone packaging
Luke Yelavich (TheMuso)
- Fixed accessible login so that it works more than once, i.e the user logs in, then either switches user, or logs out and back in as another user/the same user. Its a hack right now, but restarting speech-dispatcher only under the gdm accessible login conditions works for now. Speech-dispatcher needs to properly die when gdm/gnome-session die as well.
- Enabled accessible login for blindness/braille profiles when installing from the live CD.
- Started debugging why accessible installs using orca do not work in only-ubiquity mode. Will wait till the new at-spi comes out before going much further with this.
- Updated speech-dispatcher to the latest git snapshot available from my own git tree, which I work on in my own time.
- Involved with various discussions about the future of gnome-orca, now that the lead developer from Sun has been layed off. Nothing is clear where things will go just yet.
- Audio bug triaging, bugs in question are against pulseaudio, alsa userspace, and the kernel for hardware enablement.
- Tested the alsa-plugins a52 plugin with pulse. It still carshes. I hope to try and debug this at some point in the future.
- Gave Brad Fig from the kernel team, and Conor from the desktop experience team a crash course in how to get hda audio hardware working, so far as the tools to analyze and test are concerned. Writing quirks will come later.
With Conor's help, identified the pins that need code written for them to allow the Lenovo IdeaPad U350 to properly mute the internal speakers when headphones are connected. I suspect the same work will need to be done for the microphone input, but I am yet to read the bug in question to see if anybody has responded to my request for testing.
- Started writing a patch for the above hardware, once node IDs were identified using hda-analyzer, and thanks to a pointer from Daniel T Chen as to how one goes about adding minimal code to the hda drier to fix only one problem.
- Had discussions with Brad and Conor, as well as the kernel team, about better handling of audio bugs, particularly hda/kernel bugs. Will help Brad flesh out the documentatino a bit in the coming week.
Martin Pitt (pitti)
- desktop-lucid-likewise-open-migration: implemented
- desktop-lucid-jockey-hotplug-support: implemented
- desktop-lucid-powermanagement-tweaks: implemented
- desktop-lucid-suspend-quirks-halsectomy (implemented): spent some hours fixing the suspend quirks for real,
all good now
- desktop-lucid-xorg-halsectomy: implemented
- desktop-lucid-bug-management: audio symptoms got default bug titles
Non-blueprint work done:
- Did some outstanding merges: adduser, gzip, igerman98, pygments
- Lots of boot speed work:
- speed up modem-manager
- speed up gconf
- speed up gnome-at-session
- eliminated expensive gnome-wm from UNE
- discussed removing the expensive dd process from rsyslog; kernel fix landed, rsyslog fix handed over to foundations
- investigated netbook-launcher startup (itz hopeless)
- experimented with different background configurations
- Fixed x.org's apport signal handler patch to work again
- Bug fixing: devicekit-power, gconf, glib2.0
- Package updates: gnome-control-center
- TB meeting
- DMB meeting
- Lots of MIR reviews
- Caught up on bug triage, new bugs inbox down to 10
- devicekit-power, gnome-power-manager
Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
- desktop updates: tomboy*2 file-roller seahorse libgweather gcalctool glibmm gtkmm gnome-desktop gvfs nautilus glib
- dx updates: libdbusmenu libindicate indicator-application notify-osd
- updated desktop-file-utils defaults.list to reflect default software changes
- updated gnome-panel, evolution and update-notifier to use the new
- gnome-session autostart desktop delay key
- backported some tomboy fixes from debian
- updated glib gettext patch to work with X-GNOME-Fullname too
- updated gnome-settings-daemon patch to disable corner tapping
- cleaned some warnings and error in distro changes for gnome-control-center
- backported upstream bugzilla gtk change for nicer tooltips
- updated empathy message indicator option label to be less confusing
- updated gnome-python-desktop to stop using nautilus-cd-burner, backported
- git change to fix the build with new totem-pl-parser
- changed compiz to set the gettext domain and clean schemas translations
- worked with mvo to change default compiz settings for lucid
- discussed indicators abi break and how to transition with ted and did corresponding changes
- backported rhythmbox git commit to build with new totem-pl-parser and set watch on by default
- synced new gstreamer packages from debian
- rebuild nautilus for indicator changes
- uploaded new gtk-engine-murrine to lucid
- discussed login speed during the sprint and did bootcharts
- worked on nm-applet changes to do lazy init for loading its icons
- changed launchpad-integration to set mono dlls maping correctly and fix tomboy breakage
Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)
- cups: Fixed text filter texttopdf to not produce output with too wide and messy fonts, (LP: #447961), fixed cupsfilter crashing out-of-the-box (LP: #442283), SRUed LP: #447961, LP: #508731, LP: #407344, LP: #487902.
- system-config-printer: Updated to the current state of the 1.1.x GIT (1.1.16+) to have the current state of the stable system-config-printer series for Lucid.
- python-cups: Updated to current stable release 1.9.48.
foomatic-filters: Fixed suppression of the insertion of page accounting PostScript code when the Foomatic/Postscript driver is used (LP: 513690), assured that PDF input to foomatic-rip is turned to PostScript via Poppler if needed and not via Ghostscript (LP: #463059). SRUed the latter issue, for the former an SRU is planned.
- foomatic-db: Fixed several bugs reported to Ubuntu in the upstream package: LP: #250872, LP: #504841, LP: #505423, LP: #510832.
- hplip, gutenprint: Informed upstream developers about the upcoming Lucid FF, they answered that they will release their next versions in time.
- Answered and triaged lots of printing-related bug reports.
[16:30] * pitti rings the bell
[16:30] <pitti> hello everyone
[16:30] <kenvandine> hey
[16:30] <mvo> seb128: uploaded alrady
[16:30] <didrocks> hey o/
[16:30] <mvo> seb128: eh, I think
[16:30] <seb128> mvo, ok good, thanks ;-)
[16:30] <seb128> hey pitti
[16:30] <pitti> tseliot, Riddell: meeting ping?
[16:30] <seb128> mvo, it's not on -changes
[16:30] * rickspencer3 slips out quietly
[16:30] <seb128> mvo, but my mail must be lagging
[16:31] <mvo> seb128: no, my mistake it seems
[16:31] <ccheney> hi
[16:31] <pitti> so, boss is out, time for everyone to party
[16:31] <tseliot> o/
[16:31] <didrocks> heh
[16:31] <didrocks> another sauna time? ;)
[16:31] <kenvandine> hehe
[16:31] <pitti> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2010-02-09<<BR>> [16:31] <pitti> everyone safely back home?
[16:32] <pitti> just wanted to say that last week was great!
[16:32] <pitti> (except for the travelling..)
[16:32] * tseliot agrees with pitti
[16:32] <kenvandine> great week!
[16:32] <seb128> indeed!
[16:32] <pitti> TOPIC: Outstanding actions from last meeting
[16:32] <pitti> fortunately, none
[16:32] <tseliot> :-)
[16:32] <pitti> TOPIC: Partner Update
[16:32] <kenvandine> ok
[16:32] <pitti> kenvandine: floor's your's
[16:33] <kenvandine> lots of stuff landed on thursday
[16:33] <kenvandine> thanks so much for the help seb128!
[16:33] <kenvandine> i was glad to have SFTS time :)
[16:33] <kenvandine> there are known bugs
[16:33] <kenvandine> specifically related to dbusmenu and libindicate
[16:33] <kenvandine> but please don't hesitate to file more
[16:33] <kenvandine> it is API breakage, and there is likely going to be more bugs
[16:34] <pitti> at least all the indicators are generally happy again
[16:34] <kenvandine> s/it is/there was/
[16:34] <kenvandine> yeah
[16:34] <pitti> message one was badly damaged
[16:34] <kenvandine> they are getting better today
[16:34] <kenvandine> again, please file bugs...
[16:34] <kenvandine> it should be the last distruptive change from DX :)
[16:34] <pitti> the new input line in status indicator, is that the away message?
[16:34] <kenvandine> hehe... no
[16:35] <kenvandine> that is the SFTS bit
[16:35] <kenvandine> it posts to gwibber
[16:35] <kenvandine> it will become more dynamic, so if you don't use gwibber it will be hidden
[16:35] <pitti> i don't even have that, shouldn't it appear only when you configured it?
[16:35] <pitti> ah, of course you preemt my complaints, sweet :)
[16:35] <kenvandine> yeah... it was the first pass... but we nned to fix that :)
[16:36] <kenvandine> OLS
[16:36] <kenvandine> they have libubuntuone to land in lucid this week
[16:36] <kenvandine> i am just waiting for a new release and i will look for sponsors
[16:36] <jcastro> qense: can you please blog about your work on transmission? it's awesome.
[16:36] <kenvandine> it is needed for the rb plugin as well as the U1 applet replacement
[16:36] <jcastro> qense: also, include a screenshot. :D
[16:37] <kenvandine> jcastro, meeting :)
[16:37] <jcastro> bah, sorry!
[16:37] <qense> jcastro: good idea, I'll do it!
[16:37] <kenvandine> those are still on schedule to land before feature freeze
[16:37] <kenvandine> that is it for the partner update, questions?
[16:38] <pitti> kenvandine: so RB will land on time?
[16:38] <pitti> it's getting a bit tight
[16:38] <kenvandine> supposedly
[16:38] <pitti> ok, thanks Ken!
[16:38] <pitti> [TOPIC] Kubuntu Update
[16:38] <pitti> Riddell: what's new on the KDE front?
[16:39] <pitti> skipping
[16:39] <pitti> [TOPIC] pitivi
[16:39] <pitti> rickspencer3 put that on the table
[16:40] <pitti> seb128: any idea about the contents, except for "if you have spare cycles, help with bug triage/fixing"?
[16:40] <rickspencer3> pedro_, and seb128 discussed a bit this morning about that
[16:40] <seb128> pitti, I think Riddell is on VAC this week
[16:40] <rickspencer3> pitti, yes, especially community members who are looking for a way to help
[16:40] <seb128> pitti, not really but pedro will set a bug day
[16:40] <rickspencer3> helping pitivi team would be appreciated
[16:41] <pitti> python-gudev is packaged now, so that unblocked their migration away from hal
[16:41] <pitti> is it still on the table to keep it in lucid by default?
[16:42] <pitti> Admittedly I have no idea about it's status and quality
[16:42] <pitti> well, we said we'd review it at beta-1 time, so let's defer that question, shall we?
[16:42] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, btw the problems i was having with pitivi isn't really pitivi's fault... it is recordmydesktop
[16:43] <rickspencer3> pitti, well, it won't be ready no one attends to bugs and such
[16:43] <rickspencer3> and I would like it to be ready ;)
[16:43] <rickspencer3> that's all
[16:43] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, understood, thanks
[16:43] * rickspencer3 afk
[16:43] <seb128> ETOOMUCHTODO
[16:44] <pitti> which brings us directly to...
[16:44] <seb128> ie we have ton of things which need work and bug fixing and we are getting late
[16:44] <pitti> [TOPIC] post-A3 planning
[16:44] <seb128> I can see packages that need work before pitivi
[16:44] <seb128> ie gpm
[16:44] <pitti> so after we did the rush of new features, boot speed, etc. by alpha-3, we need to switch full speed to fixing what we have
[16:44] <pitti> and stop introducing new things and bugs
[16:45] <pitti> I'll review the list of specs that we have left, and see what we can drop for lucid
[16:45] <pitti> (with rickspencer3 and robbie)
[16:45] <pitti> we'll review that in next week's meeting
[16:45] <bryceh> pitti, I got some more work assigned at the sprint
[16:45] <pitti> bryceh: the ruthless X bits?
[16:45] <bryceh> pitti, I'll try to get specs in for that work today
[16:46] <tseliot> heh
[16:46] <bryceh> pitti, that's one
[16:46] <pitti> bryceh: appreciated, so that we can milestone/WI it
[16:46] <pitti> http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-desktop-team-lucid-alpha-3.html<<BR>> [16:46] <pitti> we are generally doing quite well, but it seems we need to drop some bits; we're running over
[16:47] <asac> 17:26 < fta2> asac, plz reject the merge from mvo, the control file is bogus
[16:47] <pitti> tseliot: are there by any chance some WIs from xorg-prop-drivers which are done, but not marked as such yet?
[16:47] <asac> mvo:
[16:47] <asac> seems you committed merge conflicts
[16:47] <pitti> asac: (meeting in progress)
[16:47] <asac> oops
[16:47] <asac> sry
[16:47] <tseliot> let me check
[16:48] <pitti> kenvandine, tseliot, and bryceh currently top the list of open WIs
[16:48] <pitti> which maps to
[16:48] <kenvandine> pitti, most of the SFTS ones are targets of opportunity
[16:48] <pitti> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-xorg-triaging-diagnosis<<BR>> [16:48] <bryceh> oh I have several nouveau wi's I completed yesterday
[16:48] <kenvandine> so easy to drop
[16:48] <pitti> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-social-from-the-start<<BR>> [16:48] <pitti> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-xorg-proprietary-drivers<<BR>> [16:48] <bryceh> sadly I'll still be toping the list once the new specs get added
[16:48] <pitti> kenvandine: right, I was going to suggest that
[16:49] <pitti> kenvandine: as long as it's in a consistent state
[16:49] <kenvandine> but i think it is safe to wait to de-scope those, since we already defined the ones that are easiest to drop
[16:49] <kenvandine> right?
[16:49] <pitti> kenvandine: since you know better which ones need to go together, would you mind moving the optional ones out of alpha-3?
[16:49] <tseliot> pitti: yes, there are a few things which I completed already
[16:49] <pitti> kenvandine: well, I'd rather have them moved out to general "lucid" now, so that we can see where we stand
[16:50] <kenvandine> humm... they shouldn't be listed, they don't have a "work items:" above them
[16:50] <tseliot> pitti: there's not a task about the new boot theme I'm supposed to work on though
[16:50] <kenvandine> oh, the ones targetted for alpha-3 are in good shape
[16:50] <kenvandine> almost done in fact
[16:51] <kenvandine> nm, those should all get completed real soon
[16:51] <pitti> tseliot: oh, which BP does that come from?
[16:52] <pitti> seb128: can we agree that the two remaining WIs on desktop-lucid-compiz-effects are crackful and better be dropped for good? (wrt. messing with configuration)
[16:52] <pitti> seb128: (I'll take the bullets)
[16:52] <seb128> pitti, rick disagreed on that, can we have this discussion after meeting when he's back?
[16:52] <seb128> fine with me
[16:52] <pitti> seb128: ok, I'll discuss with him tomorrow then
[16:52] <seb128> I think it's crackful too
[16:53] <tseliot> pitti: this one: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-lucid-boot-experience<<BR>> [16:53] <seb128> I will get the nm-applet one uploaded this week
[16:53] <seb128> will try to get upstream to comment on it
[16:53] <seb128> then we are mostly done for bootspeed items I guess
[16:54] <seb128> still the wallpaper one remaining
[16:54] <pitti> tseliot: oh, it's all "DONE" there; if there's something outstanding, please add work items under "work items (lucid-alpha-3):"
[16:54] <pitti> seb128: right; any additional wisdom/status about boot speed from you?
[16:54] <seb128> not this week no
[16:55] <seb128> I'm out of mini and didn't have time for that since the sprint
[16:55] <pitti> bryceh: seems that the WIs of you that could most easily be deferred are the bug triaging scripts
[16:55] <desrt> alpha 2 is difficult to install!
[16:55] <tseliot> pitti: I should add a task in that blueprint too, I guess
[16:55] <pitti> bryceh: althought it seems to me that an investment in those might be a huge time-saver in the long run?
[16:55] <bryceh> pitti, that's correct
[16:56] <pitti> bryceh: the two WIs from the other specs seem easy to do
[16:56] <pitti> bryceh: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-desktop-team-lucid-alpha-3.html#bryceharrington I mean
[16:56] <bryceh> yeah
[16:57] <pitti> bryceh: so perhaps do the high-prio ones first, and work on improving the bug scraping in the remaining time?
[16:57] <bryceh> actually most of the bug triaging tasks are not difficult, I've just been prioritizing other WIs ahead of them as they involve components that go into the distro
[16:57] <bryceh> pitti, yep, that's the plan
[16:58] <pitti> tseliot: ok, let's see how much of your's remain after you close the ones that are done; what's your feeling, do you think you can make your's for alpha-3, or do we need to cut?
[16:59] <seb128> pitti, you can probably postpone the 2 gnome-panel wis from robert_ancell...
[17:00] <pitti> :(
[17:00] <pitti> ok
[17:00] <tseliot> pitti: I don't think I can deal with all of them. Some cuts will definitely be required. I can send you an email about it
[17:00] <pitti> tseliot: appreciated, thanks
[17:00] <seb128> pitti, well maybe check with him but I don't see that happening before alpha3 now
[17:00] <seb128> pitti, it requires some non trivial work and architectural changes
[17:01] <seb128> kenvandine, do we still have gtk changes schedules for alpha3?
[17:01] <kenvandine> maybe
[17:01] <seb128> kenvandine, you have a "integrate patches in the gtk package" work item
[17:02] <kenvandine> we are still waiting
[17:02] <seb128> I was not sure if that was rgba which got delayed to next cycle
[17:02] <pitti> seb128: done
[17:02] <seb128> kenvandine, ok thanks
[17:02] <pitti> does anyone else have some trouble or remarks with his WIs?
[17:03] <didrocks> pitti: the two WI added on my plate by the Mobile team will be review in a call tomorrow
[17:03] <pitti> good, seems that's on track now
[17:03] <pitti> TOPIC: AOB
[17:04] <pitti> 20 seconds
[17:04] <seb128> 10 seconds? ;-)
[17:04] <pitti> [END MEETING]