<> For minutes of previous meetings, please see DesktopTeam/Meeting. = Meeting Minutes = == Present == === Main Meeting === * Rick Spencer (rickspencer3) - chair * Bryce Harrington (bryce) * Chris Coulson (chrisccoulson) * Didier Roche (didrocks) * Gary Lasker (tremolux) * Jonathan Riddell (Riddell) * Ken VanDine (kenvandine) * Martin Pitt (pitti) * Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre (cyphermox) * Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter) === Eastern Edition === * Luke Yelavich (TheMuso) * Chris Halse Rogers (RAOF) == Apologies == * Robert Ancell (robert_ancell) * Sebastien Bacher (seb128) == Agenda == * Outstanding actions from last meeting * Partner Update * Kubuntu Update * Release Bugs/Release Status * Review activity reports * Any other business === Discussion === == Actions from this meeting == == Outstanding actions from last meeting == * test migration tool for unity == Partner Update == ==== UbuntuOne ==== * [[/UbuntuOne/MaverickWeeklyReleases|Weekly releases]] * desktopcouch replication - Bug:422178 - currently testing patches from CouchOne, if it fixes the problem it will be uploaded Wednesday * u1ms - gwibber integration works again - url handling for u1ms:// urls is halfway fixed, the gconf keys are now set but the plugin doesn't take you to the song page in the store * ubuntuone-client - Bug:640392 - Fixed to show proper emblems on folders in nautilus (rather than showing "updating" emblem across synced folders) - Bug:617656 - Causes nautilus to hang when u1 is asking for a lot of folders. Still trying to track down the root cause after many hours of debugging and troubleshooting. ==== DX ==== * [[/DesktopExperienceTeam/MaverickWeeklyReleases|Weekly releases]] * [[/DesktopExperienceTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus#Freeze%20Exceptions%20Requests| Freeze Exception Requests]] * libindicator ABI change to fix Bug:637692 (shotwell import dialog won't close) - This will require a rebuild of the whole indicator-* stack and a few other things - Still pending some testing and an exception == Kubuntu Update == == X Update == == Release Status == http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-10.10-beta.html == UNE update == * Lot of bugs fixed (more than 40!) in one week. A lot of goodness thanks to the crazy unity team. Still a lot of fixes in the pipeline. Hurring for a wednesday's evening upload for final fixes. * We got an issue this week due to a mesa upload breaking all clutter-based app (and so unity). == USC update == * Buy Something * new $1 package, ricks-wallpapers, has been added to the store for testing purposes * plan is to remove the team limitations for test purchases and open the store for general testing, current target mid-week * hosting for screenshots will be populated using a PPA and sync * RT for tracking #41184 * testing, testing * New Apps on a Stable Release * extras.ubuntu.com has been added to the default sources.list with merge of lp:~mvo/apt-setup/extras-ubuntu-repo * extras.ubuntu.com key added to ubuntu-extras-keyring * RT for tracking #40099 * all of the pieces are in place now for new apps * Miscellaneous * continued testing and bugfixing * new packages added to the Featured list per discussion on ubuntu-desktop == Other Business == == Activity reports == === Bryce Harrington (bryce) === === Chris Coulson (chrisccoulson) === === Chris Halse Rogers (RAOF) === === Didier Roche (didrocks) === * Short week, not there for two days (Wednesday/Thursday) * UNE: * New double unity release (Tuesday and Friday): * unity-place-applications, unity-place-files, unity-asset-pool, bamf, clutk, libzeitgeist * readd mutter patch dropped thinking it was causing a crasher but not. * Wrote a pach for unity to fix logout when 3D acceleration isn't available * bug triaging (a lot, lot) and prioritization/coordination with dx team * GNOME update: * evince, folks, brasero, gnome-games, zenity, gnome-settings-daemon, empathy, gnome-menus, alacarte, metacity, gnome-control-center, gnome-power-manager, cheese, libgnomekbd, vala, libgee, eog * vala: rollback new gir update * merged and fix evolution-mapi not running on maverick with help from jelmer (multiple sync attempts for tevent, ldb, samba4, openchange) * evolution: remove the ubuntu signature, backport a crasher fix, and make a patch to ignore -c component saving which view was open * Misc: * Quickly tests and new release (0.6!) * sponsor quickly-widgets * forced to reinstall because of / corruption… so let's turn it into an install test :) === Gary Lasker (tremolux) === * Fix regression in appname and summary display for the case where the appname is not defined in the xapian doc * [[https://launchpad.net/bugs/636004|LP: #636004:]] Consolidate code to generate appname and summary in the UI to a single method and wire applist, appdetails and navbar * Show a more accurate number for hidden tech items in the installed view of "Provided by Ubuntu" * [[https://launchpad.net/bugs/637422|LP: #637422:]] Create an alternate spinner widget using an animated gif for use when gtk.Spinner is not available * [[https://launchpad.net/bugs/631132|LP: #631132:]] Fix crash in _on_transaction_finished * Enable show/hide technical items in the "Installed Software" view itself * [[https://launchpad.net/bugs/624913|LP: #624913:]] Fix crash in on_menu_edit_activate * [[https://launchpad.net/bugs/611108|LP: #611108:]] Fix visual flash when navigating back to a subcat applist from a details view * [[https://launchpad.net/bugs/625030|LP: #625030:]] Fix intermittent crash in on_cursor_changed * Review, test and merge lp:~ilidrissi.amine/software-center/no-crash-when-searching * Review and test lp:~ilidrissi.amine/software-center/fixing-random-bugs, tweak for merging * [[https://launchpad.net/bugs/643566|LP: #643566:]] Fix bug when displaying previous purchases * Lots of Software Center testing, both on desktop and on a netbook with Unity * Continued software center bug triage * Weekly Software Center call === Jonathan Riddell (Riddell) === done: * back after a week's holiday * e-mail backlog * reviewing MIRs and component mismatches * fixing kdesdk for no poxml package * smoke testing live CD images * packaging and testing new kpackagekit and patches to packagekit * fixing kubuntu dependencies in ubuntu-restricted-addons * New snapshot of plasma-mobile todo: * beastie hunting === Ken VanDine (kenvandine) === * Wrangled a ton of DX uploads * rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store - Fixed url-handler - Fixed the recently broken gwibber integration * ubuntu-netbook-default-settings - Added work around for the mesa/clutter breakage, and reverted after clutter was fixed - Added a temporary work around giving users a way to get into nautilus and enable/disable UbuntuOne sharing - Reverted above work around, Unity now provides a launch in nautilus button in places * Gwibber - Fixed loading when a service exists in accounts but not provided by the backend - Created maintenance branches/series for gwibber/2.32 and libgwibber-0.0, opening trunk up for future features === Luke Yelavich (TheMuso) === === Martin Pitt (pitti) === * SRU review and processing * apport bug fixing and improvements * apport retracer maintenance * bug triage * cups bug fixing * debugged broken external monitor after dist-upgrade * gdm-guest-session bug fixing * gksu bug fixing * jockey bug fixing * jockey: speed up printer driver search (#574396) * make python-distutils-extra work for Python 3 * media-player-info bug fixing * python-distutils-extra: build Python3 package * release management and engineering * sponsored powertop (#627975) * udev bug fixing * updated poppler to new upstream bug fix release * upstartify cups, to fix interaction with samba === Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre (cyphermox) === * bug triage (particularly NetworkManager and friends) * nm-applet: fix Networking and Wireless disabled on startup (#637930) * debugging ibus/nautilus breakage === Robert Ancell (robert_ancell) === === Sebastien Bacher (seb128) === === Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter) === * system-config-printer: Take into account the CMD: fields (command set, page description languages) of the device ID of the printer even if make and model is already matched by PPDs. This allows a correct selection of the PPD even if for the printer and optional PostScript modules is available. Suppress duplicate listings of the same PPD file in the make/model/driver selection. * foomatic-db, gutenprint, hplip: Modified the PPD file compressor to not create duplicate PPD URIs as system-config-printer cannot cope with that. * hplip: Fixed long-standing bug of HPLIP using the color-cartridge-only mode as default for their cheap inkjet printers (LIDIL printer language). I waited too long now for HP to fix this problem (LP: #235399). * foomatic-db: Updated the PPD files from Ricoh and OEM so that their device ID entries contain the CMD: field (command set, page description languages). This way the correct PPD file (PCL-XL or PostScript) can be chosen on the absence or presence of a PostScript add-on module. * ghostscript: Updated versioned dependency on gsfonts. In Ghostscript the use of defoma got dropped and now we need also an appropriate gsfonts package. * gsfonts: Fixed typo in postrm maintainer script. * Jockey: More discussion with pitti and others about automatic download of signed Epson drivers from OpenPrinting. Agreed on not including the auto-download as a concept to explicitly handle the key signatures of third-party packages, especially from OpenPrinting. This needs time and so postponed it to Natty. In the Maverick cycle we had no staff for that. * Answered and triaged printing-related bug reports. == Logs == {{{ [17:30] chrisccoulson, tremolux, Riddell, kenvandine, cyphermox: hey [17:31] hey! [17:31] am I forgetting someone? :) [17:31] hi [17:31] hey tkamppeter ;) [17:31] hey! [17:31] short list this week :-) [17:31] let's keep it short then [17:31] (and chrisccoulson, did you bought a car? :p) [17:31] ;) [17:31] i might have [17:32] hehe, but you prefered the meeting to buy one, great! ;) [17:32] so, action from previous meeting [17:32] hi [17:32] I had a call for testing the migration tools with custom launcher on unity [17:32] did someone tried it? [17:32] try* [17:33] * didrocks ears desperatly only the wind :) [17:33] hehe [17:33] well, I've retried it (forced due to a / FS corruption) [17:33] and it worked :) [17:34] it seems that I got some bug report with special caracter in the desktop name [17:34] so, people may have try it [17:34] i've not had a chance to try it, but i can try it if there's still some value in that [17:34] there is a pending fix :) [17:34] chrisccoulson: yeah, it would be great! [17:34] instruction are from last week meeting [17:34] ok, let's move on so [17:35] kenvandine, parteners update? [17:35] sure [17:35] U1 guys are testing a fix for couchdb that CouchOne thinks will fix replication [17:35] bug 422178 [17:35] Launchpad bug 422178 in couchdb (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "CouchDB needs to properly enable SSL support (affects: 2) (heat: 18)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/422178 [17:36] a bunch of fixes for u1ms plugin in rb, gwibber integration and url handler stuff [17:36] but not completely fixed yet, it isn't opening rb to the store page as it should [17:36] ubuntuone-client - bug 640392 [17:36] Launchpad bug 640392 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "syncdaemon_metadata_get_is_synced always returns FALSE for post-generations folders (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/640392 [17:36] Fixed to show proper emblems on folders in nautilus (rather than showing "updating" emblem across synced folders) - [17:37] and bug 617656 Causes nautilus to hang when u1 is asking for a lot of folders. Still trying to track down the root cause after many hours of debugging and troubleshooting. [17:37] Launchpad bug 617656 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "nautilus hangs while asking for folders (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/617656 [17:37] will go in this week [17:37] before thursday then? [17:37] by tomorrow, if they aren't in already, i think i saw a changelog for that [17:38] great :) [17:38] that's it for U1 [17:38] so, desktopcouch should now replicate everything? We shouldn't have any known issue during it? [17:38] didrocks, not yet. [17:38] aquarius, there are other bugs? [17:38] ok, that's a separate issue? [17:38] i thought this fixed it for maverick... [17:38] didrocks, we're working with the couchio and erlang teams right now for an SSL fix. [17:38] * aquarius does the long-suffering look. [17:38] sigh... [17:39] * didrocks hugs aquarius [17:39] so this only fixes part of it... dang [17:39] poor aquarius [17:39] kenvandine, so, nautilus is hanging rather than crashing, right? [17:39] i'll buy you another beer in orlando :) [17:39] kenvandine, heh [17:39] chrisccoulson, yes [17:39] nice, way better :) [17:39] kenvandine, well, bug 635614 might be a good place to start [17:39] Launchpad bug 635614 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "Should use async dbus calls when talking to syncdaemon, and stop blocking nautilus UI (affects: 1) (heat: 426)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/635614 [17:39] kenvandine, do you know how far rodrigo got with investigating why the music store isn't opening to the correct page with a link? I'm available to help now but he's gone :( [17:40] ok, i'll make sure they are looking at that [17:40] doing long synchronous dbus calls from the main thread is baaaaaadddd.... [17:40] aquarius, nope [17:40] those calls hang the whole UI [17:40] ugh [17:40] kenvandine, ok, I'll chase him later [17:40] ok, i'll point them at it [17:40] kenvandine: can you show them this bug and suggest moving to that? [17:40] yes [17:40] anything else on U1? [17:40] thanks :) [17:40] not for me, you can go on [17:41] ok [17:41] DX [17:41] for DX, the biggest thing is ABI change in libindicator [17:41] bug 637692 (shotwell import dialog won't close) [17:41] Launchpad bug 637692 in unity (and 5 other projects) "Action for top-level dropdown menu item not activated (affects: 3) (heat: 155)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/637692 [17:41] (API change in fact) [17:41] didrocks, oh it is? [17:41] ugh! [17:41] grrrr [17:41] kenvandine: yeah, we discussed again this morning [17:41] missed that... [17:41] kenvandine: but it's the ABI issue which is annoying [17:41] (well, my morning :)) [17:41] hehe [17:41] ok [17:42] it's basically changing a structure and adding an optional call [17:42] so this will require a bunch of rebuilds [17:42] anything more than rebuilds? [17:42] just on indicator-appmenu, adding the call [17:42] but rebuild for others [17:42] ok [17:42] whew [17:43] so, that's the scary part [17:43] i am testing those builds now [17:43] well trying too... had to free some space on this SSD :) [17:43] great, I'll coordinate with the release team for getting that approved [17:43] also got one more thing for design [17:44] hit me after i updated the wiki [17:44] they are requesting a couple UIF exceptions [17:44] for usability reasons [17:44] very minor... and shouldn't affect screenshots or anything [17:44] on what component? [17:44] light-themes and compiz [17:44] shouldn't affect screenshots? [17:45] compiz is tweaking shadows in the default settings [17:45] moving them down 4 pixels [17:45] not noticable [17:45] yeah [17:45] and the other one? on light-theme N [17:45] ? [17:45] one more change for compiz [17:46] the inactive window decorations are no longer transparent [17:46] for the theme [17:46] hum, this is some kind of visible :/ [17:46] design should learn the freeze… [17:46] something to work on at UDS [17:46] speaking of which, any word on the font? [17:46] yeah... [17:47] i was just thinking the same ;) [17:47] didrocks, let me grab the link for the theme email , easier [17:47] kenvandine: can you follow that and ask them to do the UI freeze paperwork? [17:47] Riddell, nothing confirmed yet [17:47] didrocks, already doing that now... :) [17:47] kenvandine: great, thanks :) (and yeah, if I can have the email, that will be good, thanks) [17:47] last week they said they wouldn't push for the exception, but changed their mind... seems they are worried from a usability stand point [17:48] ok [17:48] any other question for kenvandine? [17:49] i'll update the wiki with the details [17:50] ok, moving on [17:50] thanks kenvandine [17:50] Riddell: kubuntu update? (not sure as you were on vacation IIRC last week) [17:50] I was but since I'm never far away from Kubuntu I can do an update anyway [17:50] * Qt 4.7.0 just got released, we'll probably upload it although it's just a version number bump compared to what we currently have [17:50] * shiny new KPackagekit with applications view in the archive [17:50] * component mismatches is tidied up for Kubuntu bits [17:50] * possible samba sharing patches to be added yet, since this is broken anyway it can't get much worse [17:50] * 18 tagged beasties http://tinyurl.com/33p7vu3 mostly I expect them to be fixable or ignorable so I'm generally happy with where we are [17:52] oh and thanks to persia for fixing koffice on ARM [17:52] welcome back Riddell, btw :) [17:52] great! [17:52] so even "High" priority bugs aren't so high? the list is reasonable? [17:53] they're high but I'm comfortable we have time to fix them [17:53] I'll start panicing in about a week's time :) [17:54] heh, right, let's postpone panic :) [17:54] any question for Riddell? [17:54] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/55758568/screenshot.png [17:54] anyone know where the size of the Applications button up top is defined? [17:55] Neko: we are in a meeting now [17:55] ok, seems not, let's move on next topic [17:55] I'm patient :D [17:55] thanks Riddell [17:55] so, here is the most important piece of ubuntu: UNE :-) [17:55] (sorry, kidding, that was my only chance to do that joke!) [17:55] haha [17:56] Lot of bugs fixed (more than 40!) in one week. A lot of goodness thanks to the crazy unity team. Still a lot of fixes in the pipeline. Hurring for a wednesday's evening upload for final fixes. [17:56] the dx team is really rocking [17:56] unity is in a way better state regarding crashes [17:56] and a lot of goodness will come soon [17:56] kudos to them :) [17:56] We also got an issue this week due to a mesa upload breaking all clutter-based app (and so unity). [17:56] yeah, from what I've heard, unity is exciting :) [17:57] fortunately, the fix made his way fast enough [17:57] that's it for unity, any question? [17:57] btw, hi all :) [17:57] hey devildante! [17:57] hey devildante ;) [17:57] hi :) [17:57] ok, next topic, tremolux, USC update? [17:58] hi didrocks, yep [17:58] Buy Something: new $1 test package uploaded, continued testing, target to open up for general testing this week [17:58] New Apps: extras.ubuntu.com key added to default sources.list and to keyring, all pieces now in place for new-apps [17:58] Misc: of course, lots of testing, targeted bugfixing [17:58] great! [17:58] so, things a moving along :) [17:58] about extras.ubuntu.com [17:58] yes? [17:58] I got an issue with it yesterday [17:59] I tried to apt-get source keyring issue? [17:59] as the repo wasn't there, it didn't want to source it [17:59] well, I have to get a deeper look, but not sure it was only a keyring issue [17:59] (fresh forced install from Sunday) [18:00] ok, you may not yet have the package that sets it up yet [18:00] not sure [18:00] maybe we can talk after [18:00] ok, something to try then :) === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [18:00] sure [18:01] (yes, no key from what I see) [18:01] so you don't have the extras.ubuntu.com repo at all? [18:01] or, you have it but not the key>? [18:01] do you need testing on the buy something? [18:01] let's talk about extras after the meeting [18:01] sure! would appreciate that [18:01] but, it will cost you $1 to test ;) [18:02] for rick's wallpaper, I can live with that :) [18:02] maybe give it a few hours as I *think* we are working out issues still with the new $1 package [18:02] ok ;) [18:02] thanks didrocks [18:02] nice to see it finally coming! awesome work ;) [18:02] any question on USC? [18:02] thanks (on behalf of the team)! :) [18:03] * devildante wonders when it will be part of the USC team [18:03] ok, moving on, thanks tremolux [18:03] not that it is a demand :p [18:03] devildante: discuss that with them after the meeting :) [18:03] so, no pedro this week [18:04] okay :) [18:04] which means, no new bugs \o/ [18:04] devildante: heh, well, you are part of the team for sure, on LP is just a formality [18:04] more seriously, I'm tracking bugs assigned to our team [18:04] I assigned some already, nothing to be concerned about [18:04] tremolux, thanks :) [18:04] so, no wasting time on that now [18:05] ok, so release status: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-10.10.html [18:05] well… no activity which is normal as we should really focus on bugs [18:05] I still don't understand these graphs :p [18:05] please please, update your WI, postpone them, close them [18:06] seems to be the case, apart from RAOF (I will speak to him) [18:06] and pitti! [18:06] oops :) [18:06] win 7 [18:06] whoops sorry [18:06] * pitti defers his [18:06] pitti: no worry, we are still under the trendline :) [18:07] ok, that's it for that part, any question? [18:07] hum, there is no mozilla update in the template, chrisccoulson, something to share? [18:07] didrocks - i've not filled in my bit yet [18:08] but maverick is looking pretty good for mozilla [18:08] chrisccoulson: yeah, I'm switching back to using firefox nowdays :) [18:08] seems like you triaged a lot of bugs [18:08] didrocks, you're the second person who's said that to me ;) [18:08] a silly question, is firefox 4.0 in 10.10? [18:08] chrisccoulson: good work! [18:09] yeah, i spent some time looking at a bug report on friday, which looked like it might be a regression in lucid [18:09] devildante: will be updated when out as the new mozilla update policy [18:09] didrocks, great, thanks :) [18:09] and i spent nearly my entire day to then discover it wasn't, and the reporter flamed me when i closed the report :( [18:09] chrisccoulson: urgh, that happens… :/ [18:09] any other question on firefox? [18:10] i've spent some time this week preparing things for natty [18:10] one of those is to get the mozilla test-suite running on our builds in firerox 4.0 [18:10] which i've done now :) [18:10] chrisccoulson: nice! [18:10] chrisccoulson: is there a ppa? :) [18:10] didrocks - yeah, there's the ubuntu-mozilla-daily PPA atm [18:11] but there will be another one soon for the FF4.0 beta's, which won't be daily builds [18:11] ok, natty will be cool, but maverick is our first top priority! Fixing bugs and update/install test should be our current focus :) [18:11] yes! [18:11] yeah, i'm doing that too ;) [18:12] so, back on bug fixing/updating/crazy ABI migration handling! Let's keep maverick rocking and good work everyone! :) }}} ---- [[CategoryDesktopTeam]]<
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