## page was renamed from Edubuntu/WikiSite/Meeting/Logs/2005-11-23 ## page was renamed from MeetingLogs/Edubuntu_2005-11-23 #title Edubuntu Meeting Log 2005-11-23 <> = Meeting November 23, 2005 = {{{ 01:00 JaneW hi all 01:01 juliux hi 01:01 JaneW **roll call** === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Pazzo [n=Pazzo@host130-250.pool8172.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:01 JaneW I'll note who was at each meeting so that if decision are taken, we'll have a record of who participated in them 01:02 Simira morning JaneW 01:02 JaneW hi Simira === mhz is here, alive and kicking 01:02 JaneW so if you want to be listed say 'here' now 01:02 mhz JaneW: hi Ms. Cakes === JaneW notes the silence ;) 01:03 JaneW hi mhz 01:03 ogra here 01:03 juliux JaneW, here 01:03 ogra :) 01:03 ogra where is flint === kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:03 mhz everybosy say 'here' and put your hands in the air === Seveas waves 01:03 crimsun here 01:03 juliux but i cann't promise that i can be at all meetings because 12 UTC isn't a goog time for students === kjcole is Kevin Cole 01:04 JaneW hi kjcole 01:04 mhz juliux: but yor are not a student... you are an ubuntu memeber :) 01:04 spacey hi 01:04 juliux mhz, argh 01:04 mhz hehehe 01:04 kjcole Well, I want a reasonable New York time... or we'll invade your country and bring "freedom and democracy". ;-) 01:05 mhz kjcole: lol 01:05 Seveas spoken like a true Bush :) 01:05 juliux kjcole, lol 01:05 mhz you have already 01:05 juliux kjcole, come on, i will wait for you here 01:05 kjcole We'll do it again! And get it right THIS time... for sure!!! 01:05 juliux *g* 01:05 mhz juliux: maybe you could play some german experiments on kjcole 01:05 mhz :) 01:06 juliux mhz, we have in germany something thats called "suse" 01:06 mhz juliux: LOL!! 01:06 kjcole Noooooo! === ogra wonders what "german experiments" might be 01:06 mhz ogra: simply adding lemon juice to his wounds will do 01:06 spacey JaneW, here :> 01:06 juliux ogra, merkel? === flint [n=flint@68-233-75-86.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:06 ogra ah, yes, suse ... but thats not german anymore ;) 01:06 mhz indeed 01:07 ogra juliux, thats no experiment... thats simply just sucking 01:07 ogra hey flint 01:07 kjcole Mr. Flint... You just missed me being an Ugly American. 01:07 juliux ogra, ok 01:07 ogra morning 01:07 flint ya it is morman... 01:07 juliux hey flint === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === dirkvdbroek [n=c1000@82-170-229-42.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:07 mhz hi there flint 01:07 kjcole Jeff Elkner said last night he'd be joining us this morning... 01:07 mhz wow, more people! 01:07 flint oh god.. it is early, hi kevin it is snowing in vermont... === jelkner [n=jelkner@dsl092-236-069.phl1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:08 ogra kjcole, he's in #edubuntu 01:08 mhz flint: unveliebalbe, its raining in Chile (this never happens in this time of year) 01:08 ogra heh, speaking of the devil 01:08 mhz flint: maybe it is Day After tomorrow's efect 01:08 flint mhz, hey dude. 01:08 mhz hip 01:08 ogra JaneW, do we have something like an agenda ? 01:09 jelkner kjcole: i'm here now (thanks to ogra) 01:09 flint mhz, it is beautiful anyway, what is up Jane? 01:09 mhz indeed === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:09 mhz jsgotangco: wb 01:09 flint hey jeff! 01:09 jelkner hey paul! === jsgotangco accidentally closed client 01:10 mhz jsgotangco: was playing games again? :D === jsgotangco playing guild wars atm === ogra wonders if JaneW's line dropped again .... 01:10 mhz heheh 01:10 ogra seems common at this time of day 01:10 jelkner so what's on the agenda? === jane_ [n=JaneW@wbs-146-151-44.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:10 ogra heh 01:10 kjcole Jeff, after this meeting I'm at the Accessabilty/Special Needs meeting... (Different Bat-Time, Same Bat-Channel) 01:11 ogra wb jane 01:11 mhz ogra: you are a geniuos 01:11 Seveas ogra was right :) 01:11 flint morning Jane... 01:11 mhz Seveas: no wonder he's Mr. Edubuntu 01:11 jsgotangco kjcole: what time is that? 01:11 jane_ hi, what was the last thing I said that went through - please === jsgotangco thought this was the a11y meeting 01:11 kjcole Was supposed to be one hour from now, but the fridge says two. 01:11 ogra jane_, should we move the meeting times a bit ? your line dropps every meeting around this time :) 01:11 mhz jane_: you said hi 01:11 mhz :) 01:11 jsgotangco we'll have to wait for henrik then or dholbach 01:11 Seveas a11y is at 14:30 utc - it is 12:11 utc now... 01:12 jane_ ogra: I know, it;s damn annoying! 01:12 ogra jsgotangco, this is edubuntu .... we'll have another one later === jane_ is going to repeat comments... 01:12 mhz jane_: if you need me, i can go there and kick your ISP butt 01:12 jsgotangco ok (im supposed to be here anyways) === ealden [n=Martin@210.213.71.153] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:12 jane_ Ok in order to make the session a bit more structured and make note taking quicker and easier let's try to stick to the following format for each meeting: 01:13 jane_ We have following categories: Technical, 01:13 jane_ , Documentation 01:13 dholbach i'm here too :) 01:13 jane_ , Art Work 01:13 jane_ , Community, Management etc 01:13 jane_ let me know if there are others required... 01:13 jane_ for each of these let's work though: Progress in last week, Issues/Blocks, Planned Activities for next week. 01:13 ogra looks fine to me 01:13 mhz jane_: Social 01:13 jane_ we can also discuss requirements for additional meetings in any of these areas 01:13 jane_ Ideally I'd like for each category to have a leader, or representative, who will discuss it 01:13 ogra mhz, community 01:13 mhz jane_: I meant education 01:13 jsgotangco Social is community imo 01:13 jane_ is there agreement on this? 01:14 jane_ hi dholbach 01:14 kjcole Aye. 01:14 mhz ogra: would education be community too? 01:14 jelkner you're the boss, jane 01:14 jsgotangco basically 01:14 flint jane, what about educational as a category? 01:14 mhz flint: thx 01:14 ogra mhz, hat specific educational things would you like to discuss ? 01:14 jane_ I also mentioned that I will note who is present at each meeting, so that we have a record and know who partook in decision etc... 01:14 flint elkner is such a suckup... 01:15 mhz ogra: mainly, teachers work, students work, schools needs, etc 01:15 mhz ogra: or maybe they are Technical ? 01:15 jelkner i have a number of educational things i would like to discuss, but i think they are dapper+1 01:15 flint JaneW, the idea here is to develop coursework, but also as part of an operational category 01:15 jane_ ok so we will start each week as usual with Oli, and hopefully his growing dev team on the technical, progress, issues and plans 01:16 jelkner mhz: it looks like the broader educational goals of edubuntu need to wait until after dapper 01:16 ogra mhz, i think they spread over the other categories 01:16 mhz flint: indeed. We'll start desingning training courses for teachers 01:16 jane_ flint: I am not sure we are in aposition to develop course work at this stage 01:16 mhz flint: we = in chiel 01:16 mhz flint: we = in chile 01:16 jane_ flint: we are still building a framework. 01:16 mhz jelkner: okis 01:16 flint na, you have a released product. 01:17 spacey jane_, presence here:) 01:17 jane_ thanks space 01:17 jane_ y 01:17 mhz jane_: IIUC, we'll start with Technical? === spacey herman 01:17 ogra ok, lets get started, my technical report is small this time ... i was busy with ubuntu stuff last week, but the Cd builds have started and i was promised a live filesystem for the liveCD this week 01:17 spacey :P 01:18 jane_ ogra: and are you expecting it to build and work already ?:) 01:18 ogra i havent done much with ltsp the last week, but have started a little tool in my sparetime for managing ltsp setups 01:18 flint ...as opposed to a dead file systen :^( I am all for that :^) 01:18 ogra http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/LTSPManager/ 01:18 flint ogra, what and why a live file system? 01:19 kjcole Flint, for a LiveCD... 01:19 ogra if you want to test the CD, have a look at the report of the current build 01:19 ogra http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current/report.html 01:19 spacey ogra, looks fancy :) 01:19 ogra if its empty, it will most likely work 01:19 flint ogra, kjcole, oh yea, still sleepy... 01:20 ogra note that the CD depends on ubuntu, so if there is breakage at a low level in ubuntu, it will affect many packages 01:20 jelkner ogra: wow, oliver, that looks cool! 01:20 ogra feel free to contribute ;) === pippo [n=pippovic@p85.212.17.155.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:21 ogra flint, the live FS will be the base for the liveCD 01:21 mhz ogra: wow, nice work 01:21 ogra it will contain only the workstation install, no server parts yet 01:21 flint ogra, Gotcha... thanks. 01:22 mhz ogra: i agree WS are more important here 01:22 ogra but if ltsp manager might oonce work, we could ship it on the livecd together with the ltsp packages and it would be easy to setup 01:22 mhz atm 01:22 mhz indeed 01:22 flint so you can use the live cd to boot a workstation? 01:22 ogra but since i do it in my sparetime i'm not sure if it can make dapper ... if not some contributors step up 01:23 ogra flint, you can use the liveCD as you use a ubuntu livecd 01:23 ogra just with the edubuntu desktop on top 01:23 flint gotcha... that talk of workstation confused me in my pre-coffee state. 01:24 ogra i mean the workstation install we offer on the install CD :) 01:24 mhz flint: hehehe 01:24 ogra my tech plans for next week: 01:25 ogra * getting ldm changed to please mdz's requirements 01:25 ogra (he's not yet happy with my code) 01:25 ogra * getting the sound stuff implemented completely .. 01:25 flint go ollie! 01:25 ogra * finishing the spects 01:26 ogra * having our first liveCD build 01:26 ogra s/spects/specs 01:26 jsgotangco yay 01:26 mhz ogra: you know you have one "pain_in_the_back_ tester here 01:27 mhz ogra: thx for such load of work 01:27 ogra oh, and * doing some etherboot tests, it seems to become a problem that it wasnt tested proerly 01:27 jane_ ogra: any issues/blocks? 01:27 ogra jane_, only mdz and his eagle eyes that find the bugs in my code ;) 01:27 flint mhz, ogra, I expect to be testing in my new lab in 1 week. 01:28 jane_ ogra: LOL 01:28 ogra sound is merely done, just needs the code around it ... 01:29 ogra liveCd is mostly done by others, i only have to care for it to be done (indeed i want to know more about theprocess to be able to do this myself, but thats not relevant for the current CD) 01:29 mhz ogra: what yo mean by "etherboot tests, it seems to become a problem that it wasnt tested proerly"? 01:29 mhz ogra: others such as highvoltage? === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487F79F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:29 ogra we have no proper solution for etherboot (nobody tested it for breezy) and the amount of support quetions wrt etherboot raises === hbos [n=osso@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 01:30 kjcole (FYI: 12:30 UTC...) 01:30 ogra i got some etherboot cards at ubz, but havent worked with them yet, so setting up a client and do some tests is on my agenda for next week === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@lns-bzn-37-82-253-38-250.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["ByeBye"] 01:31 ogra thats all from the tech side for now, any questions ? 01:32 juliux ogra, the skolelinux people use eherboot i think 01:32 ogra juliux, yes, with ltsp 4.something 01:32 jane_ guys please look at http://wiki.edubuntu.org/MeetingRecords and see if this format is useful 01:32 juliux ogra, and there will be some of them in essen so you/we can talk with them 01:32 jane_ nothe that I am editing, so please don;t try to edit NOW 01:32 ogra juliux, that wont help 01:32 juliux ogra, ok i will be quite 01:33 ogra juliux, they are different implementations ... i need to find the right solution for our implementation 01:33 juliux ogra, ah ok 01:33 ogra which should be straight forward, once i have the HW set up :) 01:34 kjcole jane_, lots to read there, but at a quick skim, the MeetingRecords look pretty good. 01:35 jane_ kjcole: focus on the tables near the top for now, that's the change 01:35 mhz jane_: wow! that takes time to wiki it! Thx. I would be ok with it, too, if it were only lisitings :) 01:35 flint jane_, how did you generate the outline. That is very cool. 01:35 jane_ I am thinking it's easier to skim through than a wad of notes 01:35 jane_ flint: my copius wiki knowledge ;) 01:35 flint jane_, indeed! 01:36 jelkner jane_: looks great 01:36 jane_ mhz: thanks for all your testing and other help 01:36 mhz jane_: np, I love what I do :) 01:36 jane_ ogra: so are all your items covered in the table? 01:36 ogra yup 01:36 ogra looks good 01:36 crimsun ogra: I'll ping you post-meeting RE: sound (read the spec on earlier) 01:36 kjcole jane_ clear, concise... I like it. 01:37 ogra crimsun, the spec isnt accurate yet ... 01:37 mhz jane_: however, i'd suggest that for your own time saving sake, you think of listing over tabling (in this current Moin version. Next will include 100% WYSIWYG editor) 01:38 jane_ mhz: cool, cos table editting in moin suck atm! 01:38 mhz and so tables will be easier to deal with 01:38 mhz jane_: exactly!!! 01:38 mhz lol 01:38 jane_ mhz: but I handled the BreezyGoals table, so I can do anything ;P 01:38 ogra heh 01:38 mhz jane_: current Moin beta already supports it 01:38 jane_ ok, do we have a doc team person here today? 01:39 mhz jane_: indeed, you grok Moin syntax 01:39 ogra jsgotangco is here 01:39 jsgotangco aye 01:39 jane_ hi jsgotangco :) 01:39 kjcole mhz, oh? Do tell! (Time for me to install the beta.) 01:39 jane_ jsgotangco: are you still our man for Dapper? === mhz is just a wiki person. still no docbook skills) 01:39 ogra there was a request for a "where to purchase" webpage 01:39 jsgotangco jane_: hi :) sorry just got to talk to cvd over the phone 01:39 jane_ jsgotangco: hope we haven;t list you to the worl of cell phone gaming.... 01:39 jane_ world even 01:40 mhz kjcole: you'll love it 01:40 jsgotangco jane_: i'm always your man 01:40 jane_ ogra: oh right, ok I'll add that 01:40 jsgotangco jane_: but i believe some people have started some stuff 01:40 jsgotangco like kjcole and elkner 01:40 jsgotangco ? 01:40 jane_ ogra: any news on CD prints from your contact? === kjcole finally installed Edubuntu (and am underslept), and have started fooling with docbook in earnest. 01:40 jsgotangco i'll be happy to help them out on the docbook conversion stuff 01:40 jsgotangco kjcole: you can focus on the writing... 01:41 jane_ yes kjcole and jelkner how's that cookbook? 01:41 jelkner kjcole and i are meeting to start on the book next week 01:41 ogra jane_, not yet \sh is meeting him more often ... 01:41 jane_ jelkner: awesome :)) 01:41 ogra jane_, i know he already has edubuntu for sale in his online shop === kjcole has also put in a small handful of documentation bugs for the current stuff into launchpad. 01:41 mhz jane_: sorry, is lightweight, Technical? 01:41 jsgotangco sure 01:41 jane_ ogra: really? and how is it packaed? 01:41 \sh aeh...someone pinged me? 01:41 ogra \sh, amu and CD sales 01:41 jane_ mhz: lightweight? 01:42 ogra jane_, i havent seen the packaging yet 01:42 kjcole jelkner, she's been hanging around you too long. 01:42 ogra probably \sh has 01:42 flint The cookbook is the update of the Tuxlab stuff? 01:42 kjcole flint, right. 01:42 \sh aeh...I never saw a cd of amu...but I can ask him to show me at least on of those... 01:43 ogra jane_, but i wanted to ask him to use our artwork 01:43 jane_ ogra: If at all possible it would be nice if he used our stuff from mhz 01:43 jane_ ^snap 01:43 ogra yup 01:43 ogra :) 01:43 jane_ ogra: also if his version is more 'official' I'll list it above others... 01:43 jane_ as a preferred option 01:43 jsgotangco kjcole: where are you doing it? some online rcs or something? 01:43 ogra i just pinged him in #kubuntu 01:44 ogra lets see, probably he likes to join 01:44 mhz jane_: cool if it is used (at least some) so I have more arguments to talk about with Pablo :) 01:44 JaneW mhz: exactly :)) 01:44 JaneW mhz: however it means he'll need to design a whole new one for 6.04 ;P 01:44 \sh ogra: i pinged him as well on kubuntu-de 01:44 ogra heh 01:45 JaneW shall we discuss the translation issue and where / how to store translated wiki pages? 01:45 mhz JaneW: np, actually I have been drawing some stuff already :D 01:45 JaneW mhz: great 01:45 JaneW was there ever an Artwork team meeitng? 01:45 kjcole jsgotangco, I was trying to learn everything at once: docbook, bzr, launchpad, etc. But since it's primarily just jelkner and myself, and we live 3 miles apart, we've agreed to speed things up and just get started via e-mail exchanges and/or shared access to a ssh-able account. 01:45 JaneW pips1 and highvoltage were going to arrange one 01:46 flint yea, but try to drive that 3 miles... 01:46 mhz JaneW: regarding lightweight, I am seriusly considering working on wmaker theming stuff, as many of the visits I have done to schools so far (about 6), IT stuff is really poor 01:46 ogra JaneW, did we document the new artwork requirements somewhere ? === ogra cant remember 01:46 mhz JaneW: no idea about artwork meetings 01:46 jsgotangco kjcole: if you're doing it in docbook and having a hard time, please let me know 01:47 jsgotangco kjcole: and i can set up an online repo so we can work with revision control 01:48 kjcole jsgotangco, so far, what I've seen of docbook doesn't look too difficult, but listening to others talk about it leads me to suspect perhaps I haven't looked deep enough to find such trouble. ;-) 01:48 jelkner mhz: can i get an email for you? i'd like to ask you some questions about setting up for spanish learners... 01:48 mhz JaneW: is EdubuntuStudyPackages technical or doc? 01:48 ogra JaneW, oh, i see you have documented it i the meeting records ... 01:48 flint jsgotangco, it seems silly to set up YACVS when access to Bazar-NG is upon us...eh? 01:48 mhz jelkner: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/MauricioHernandez 01:48 ogra JaneW, note that the artwork stuff is not related to ltsp ... 01:49 mhz sure 01:49 jsgotangco flint: not really.... 01:49 JaneW ogra: yes but highvoltage wanted to create a team to manage the wiki, website and galleries etc 01:49 jsgotangco kjcole: well the docbook thing needs at least to render properly in Yelp if we want it in the distro 01:49 JaneW mhz: what is EdubuntuStudyPackages? 01:49 ogra JaneW, its under * Enhancements to LTSP - owner OliverGrawert 01:49 jsgotangco kjcole: its not really vodoo but it can be hairy sometimes 01:50 ogra JaneW, it should be a separate item :) 01:50 mhz JaneW: apt-get install mathematics-keduca (i.e.) 01:50 JaneW ogra: not anymore ;P 01:50 ogra heh 01:50 mhz JaneW: apt-get install chemestry-ghemical (i.e.) 01:51 kjcole flint, that was sort of my thinking: having never used any RVC, CVS, SubVersion, whatever, I figured I'd skip 'em all and go straight to bzr, so I wouldn't have to un-learn anything later. 01:51 JaneW mhz: yes it sounds like technical why? 01:51 mhz JaneW: because some LA guys (Venezuela and Chile, so far) we have started some planing on how to do it 01:51 ogra the packaging is technical, the content is doc 01:51 kjcole Even if bzr's not quite ready for prime-time, it does appear to be getting used, so I thought "good 'nuf". 01:52 mhz JaneW: ogra has given some opinions actually, too 01:52 ogra same as the artwork packages 01:52 flint kjcole, you are the evil-knevil of version control. Go ahead and jump! 01:52 mhz kjcole: I am also very close to start learning bzr, esp. for EdubuntuStudyPackages 01:53 ogra its very easy 01:53 mhz so it seems 01:53 jsgotangco very 01:53 ogra very very 01:53 ogra :) 01:53 kjcole mhz, we definitely need to stay in touch (considering you also have an interest in the Accessible/Special Needs stuff too...) 01:53 mhz ogra: however, your 'easy' may be very diff from my 'easy' :D 01:53 mhz kjcole: indeed, sure. 01:54 ogra mhz, not really ... i never used version control systems before baz... and baz sucked... bzr is fun to use, especially thanks to Keybuk and his bzrk :) 01:55 mhz oh 01:55 flint ogra, kjcole has some german in his background, so it might be easier for him than the rest of us:^) 01:55 mhz I used svn once and it seemed easy when you understand what it does 01:55 ogra flint, no german knowledge required for bzr ;) 01:55 JaneW 5 minutes to go 01:55 flint for instance the only thinge easy for the irish are drinking and reproduction. 01:56 JaneW any other pressing items? 01:56 JaneW we seem to have no issues so far - which is good 01:56 mhz ArtWork/ theming 01:56 JaneW and so far progress seems faurly steady 01:56 JaneW fairly 01:56 mhz Doc/Translations of Edubuntu wiki pages 01:56 JaneW we just need to make sure we are on track for dev milestones 01:56 JaneW mhz: yes, did you see my e-mail? 01:57 mhz Community/I need to talk to some guy ogra pointed in order to get the edubuntu-cl ML 01:57 mhz JaneW: hmm, now I have :) 01:57 ogra that'd be jdub 01:57 JaneW mhz: yes jdub is in charge of all mailing lists 01:58 JaneW mhz: will it be a CHILE list or a general Spanish language list? 01:58 mhz JaneW: I also saw your spec on 'content'. EdubuntuStudyPackages is considered under that category? 01:58 ogra oh, just for info, i'll be at linuxtag in essen with \sh and juliux presenting edubuntu .... 01:58 jelkner JaneW: where is the spec on content? 01:59 kjcole ogra, bzrk... that graphic thing demo-ed at UBZ? It looked like a neat package. I'll have to dig it up. 01:59 ogra additionally there is a IRC based conference i will hold a talk about edubuntu: http://umeet.uninet.edu/ 01:59 mhz JaneW: hmm, I usually prefer small stuff so you can give others more options to contribute. if it were my decision, I'd do it for latinamerica, because spanish is not quite the same, but spanish seems to be more universal concept 01:59 ogra kjcole, deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/snapshot/bzr/ ./ === JaneW just saw https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuStudyPackages for the first time now, so forgive me if I am a bit lost in this discussion... 02:00 JaneW what content? 02:00 jelkner EdubuntuStudyPackages 02:00 mhz JaneW: Doc/ or Marketing/ we are working on a paper to hand in with CD's. and also one for Edubuntu only 02:00 ogra JaneW, do you remember my library server idea from the beginning ? its nearly the same ... 02:00 kjcole ogra, thanks. 02:00 mhz in spanish 02:01 JaneW ogra: oic, well yes it is a good idea 02:01 JaneW ogra: is someone going to own it and run with it? 02:01 ogra providing content for the signle apps 02:01 ogra mhz, ? 02:01 JaneW guys we need to wrap up and vacate the venue soon... 02:01 JaneW turn off the lights when you leave and head back to #edubuntu... 02:01 mhz ogra: ? 02:02 flint JaneW, mhz, how hard is it to cross link pages in moin? 02:02 mhz JaneW: this spec http://wiki.edubuntu.org/ExampleContent?highlight=%28spec%29%7C%28content%29 02:02 JaneW ogra: a bit like example content then? 02:02 ogra a bit more 02:02 mhz flint: piece of cake 02:02 ogra mhz, ogra: is someone going to own it and run with it? 02:02 mhz flint: i can help you in #edubuntu 02:02 JaneW flint just mention a page in another and hey presto 02:03 mhz ogra: own it? (my spanish attacks sometimes) 02:03 jelkner when is the next meeting? 02:03 ogra JaneW, its real teaching content, not only examples 02:03 flint mhz, jane could could cross link edubuntu study packages to her page... 02:03 JaneW mhz: we can help with that, we just don;t have time to love to many whole things at once :) 02:03 ogra mhz, own it == take responsibility for it ... 02:03 mhz JaneW: ooooh 02:03 mhz ogra: I can, yes 02:03 JaneW ogra: well the ppl with teaching experience and qualifications should handle that 02:03 jsgotangco mhz: but those things are very country-centric but its your package so :) === JaneW looks over towards the USA... 02:04 mhz jsgotangco: yes, but the effort can be translated 02:04 jelkner JaneW: i *want* to get involved in that, i'm trying to figure out how... 02:04 ogra JaneW, yup... but packaging it is a ggod idea i think 02:04 mhz jsgotangco: for example: content about Ubuntu Training Course 02:04 jelkner anyway, when is the next meeting (before we vacate) 02:04 jelkner ? 02:04 flint this is why i thought finding out more about scorm was a good thing... 02:04 JaneW yes I have kids to fecth 02:04 jsgotangco this looks like jdub's sample content stuff for dapper 02:04 flint I have coffee to drink. 02:05 JaneW I will finish the meeting notes in the next 10 02:05 jsgotangco (only that its not a sample) 02:05 jelkner JaneW: so, jane, when is the next meeting? 02:05 JaneW please edit/ add/ amend as necessary afterwards 02:05 JaneW jelkner: 6 days 23 hours 02:05 jelkner ahh 02:05 jelkner good 02:05 ogra JaneW, you noted that we have a a11y/edubuntu meeting at 14:30 UTC ? 02:05 JaneW same time, same place each week unless otherwise stated 02:05 jelkner ally? 02:05 mhz okidoki. 02:05 JaneW ogra: I didn't 02:05 ogra oh 02:06 flint nice stuff jane. I declare a motion to adjourn. 02:06 ogra jelkner, accessibility 02:06 JaneW I may miss that or part of it, but I will try to be here at least some of the time 02:06 JaneW ciao 02:06 mhz flint: jelkner: would you be interested in packaging educational content? 02:06 jelkner mhz: sure would! 02:06 ogra bye JaneW and thanks 02:06 flint mhz, 02:06 jelkner bye jane 02:06 flint mhz, indeed I would. 02:06 mhz could we move back to#edubuntu? 02:06 JaneW thanks to all :) }}}