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This is a log or summary of an Edubuntu Meeting. Please go to the Meeting Page for more information about our meetings.
Meeting June 7, 2006
10:00 cbx33 <--------------------------------------------meeting notes start here----------------------------------------------> 10:00 neuralis pygi: i'm in croatia; ping me outside of the meeting, we'll have a beer. 10:00 JaneW not great 10:00 pygi neuralis, nice, great ;) 10:00 ogra hi all === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 10:01 cbx33 hey ogra === highvoltage beams in 10:01 highvoltage hi edubuntero's === cbx33 is wrestling with pygtk treeviews === dan_young [firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Burgwork thinks highvoltage is a crazy trekkie 10:01 lucasvo hi everybody 10:01 cbx33 Burgwork, he could mean he's smiling === crimsun [i=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 10:02 ogra i dont think we need to got through the general agenda items today 10:02 ogra edgy isnt open yet === JaneW looks for agenda 10:02 cbx33 Burgwork, having just read #edubuntu I was wrong 10:02 Burgwork cbx33, no comment 10:02 JaneW ogra: we got member candidates? 10:02 ogra yes, two 10:02 lucasvo JaneW: yup 10:02 HedgeMage JaneW: me! :D 10:02 JaneW HedgeMage: :) 10:03 highvoltage whohoo! === jenda waves at HedgeMage === JaneW prepares the flaming hoops === cbx33 tries remember HedgeMage's bribes === HedgeMage waves back 10:03 ogra just a short update, i'm working on a fix for dapper-updates for edubuntu-artwork (in case you didnt notice we're missing the cursor theme) 10:03 HedgeMage rofl cbx33 10:03 cbx33 cool ogra 10:03 lucasvo cbx33: don't you see the tons of chocolate in front of you? 10:03 cbx33 ahhh....that's waht it was 10:04 cbx33 ogra, i see the homies have been making an appearance in a lot of places 10:04 ogra additionally, thanks to highvoltage LaserJock and cbx33 for adding specs and spec ideas on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuEdgyIdeas === thierryn [email@example.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 10:04 highvoltage cool. more specs will populate that space shortly :) 10:04 cbx33 oooh, what you have up your sleeve? 10:04 lucasvo what is our agenda today? === JaneW congratulates all. Edubuntu currently at 25 on DistroWatch last 7 days list http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=1 10:04 ogra in case you want to add something still, only things with initial spec attached will be considered 10:05 HedgeMage :) 10:05 pygi highvoltage, indeed, along with new S-C-P specc :) 10:05 jsgotangco morning 10:05 JaneW is the whole EC here? 10:05 lucasvo only voting for edubuntu members? 10:05 JaneW jsgotangco: ? 10:05 JaneW oh hi jsgotangco 10:05 jsgotangco 4am =) 10:05 ogra JaneW, LaserJock is missing it seems 10:05 JaneW LaserJock? 10:05 cbx33 pygi, cool 10:05 cbx33 he;s around 10:05 cbx33 but v.busy 10:05 HedgeMage S-C-P == ? 10:05 ogra just not here 10:05 jsgotangco student control panel 10:05 lucasvo HedgeMage: student control panel 10:05 cbx33 nope 10:05 ogra HedgeMage, student control panel 10:05 HedgeMage lucasvo: ahh cool 10:06 ogra i'm just writing on the spec 10:06 cbx33 cool 10:06 pygi ogra, oki, tell me so I can see what needs to be done, or add something perhaps ;) 10:06 cbx33 I'd like to see it too === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 10:06 LaserJock sorry people 10:06 lucasvo hi LaserJock 10:07 JaneW hi LaserJock 10:07 cbx33 woh LaserJock fancy meeting you here ;) 10:07 JaneW ok everyone is here 10:07 ogra pygi, in principle it will only list the stuff from the TODO and two or three additional features 10:07 Amaranth so, what spec did you guys want to kidnap me for? :) 10:07 JaneW so this is my last EC meeting. I will be around for next week's Edubuntu regular meeting. 10:07 ogra ok, enough edubuntu stuff lets start with the fun :) 10:07 cbx33 :( JaneW 10:08 HedgeMage JaneW: we'll be sorry to see you go :( === mhz hughs JaneW 10:08 JaneW I obviously have to step down from the EC... 10:08 mhz -h === cbx33 starts the group hug 10:08 JaneW but am happy to vote tonight - if I may 10:08 JaneW ? 10:08 mhz nope :D 10:08 highvoltage +1 === JaneW *hugs* all 10:08 ogra Amaranth, willow-ng is enough, really ... if you still have sparetime you can add https filtering :P === highvoltage *hugs* JaneW 10:08 Amaranth hehe === HedgeMage hugs JaneW 10:09 JaneW are you guys happy to remain with an EC of 4 from now on, for the next while? === LaserJock tries to end his forum posting spree and focus on Edubuntu 10:09 ogra JaneW, you can evenn stay in the council if you want i see no reason why not === jenda [n=jenda@unaffiliated/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 10:09 cbx33 ogra, true === HedgeMage agrees with ogra 10:09 cbx33 tut tut LaserJock === highvoltage too 10:09 cbx33 +1 10:09 JaneW ogra: I am not sure I can commit to carrying out responsibilities 10:09 ogra so we'd at least see you once a month :) 10:09 cbx33 oh wait I already did 10:09 LaserJock ogra: should the EC vote to keep JaneW in the EC ;-) 10:09 ogra lol 10:09 cbx33 heheh 10:09 mhz heheh 10:09 JaneW ogra: I'd like to remain a member though? 10:09 cbx33 by the looks of things it already has 10:09 ogra JaneW, sure 10:10 JaneW ogra: I shall certainly try to be here though === cbx33 is going to burn his laptop if this keyboard issue persists 10:10 ogra JaneW, we want to keep our lara (edubuntu) craft (girl) *g* 10:10 jsgotangco JaneW: as long as you dont play bliss anymore i'll ack 10:10 LaserJock hehe 10:10 highvoltage heh. 10:11 ogra jsgotangco, well, as long as she doesnt play it in public at least :) 10:11 JaneW jsgotangco: haha, agreed 10:11 jsgotangco yes that must have been the cause of the plague 10:11 JaneW ! 10:11 cbx33 awww 10:11 LaserJock anyway, back on task? 10:11 ogra soooo 10:11 Amaranth ogra: lara croft === Amaranth derails it again... 10:12 ogra there is this mario danic guy who wants to be a member 10:12 lucasvo who is that? 10:12 ogra anybody know him ? 10:12 lucasvo Nick? === JaneW can;t wait for Dapper CDs to arrive 10:12 cbx33 hmm 10:12 Amaranth never heard of him 10:12 cbx33 I think I've heard of him 10:12 cbx33 He's helped me out a lot 10:12 ogra *grin* 10:12 Amaranth hehe 10:12 cbx33 great guy 10:12 highvoltage mr pygi 10:12 cbx33 really dedicated 10:12 highvoltage (some might say too dedicated) 10:12 lucasvo oh, embarassing, that's pygi 10:12 JaneW pygi: want to present yourself? 10:12 ogra pygi, so show us your two line intro :) 10:12 JaneW highvoltage: :P 10:13 HedgeMage ogra: I think he's worth keeping around ;) 10:13 Amaranth lucasvo: we were joking :P 10:13 pygi ogra, intro? I don't have a intro :P 10:13 lucasvo Amaranth: I wasn't, *gettingredface* 10:13 jsgotangco surely you have one, i woke up at 4am just for this =) 10:13 ogra pygi, its usual to have prepared two lines introducing yourself ... 10:13 pygi o joy :) 10:13 Amaranth pygi is my hero 10:13 ogra you can do that on the fly if you like :) === cbx33 hopes pygi is a fast typer === HedgeMage did it 10:13 Amaranth there is one line ;) 10:13 highvoltage pygi: you wrote a big part of the cookbook, surely you can come up with two lines :) === HedgeMage is feeling organized today 10:14 cbx33 by that I assume you have your HedgeMage === HedgeMage nods to cbx33 10:14 JaneW pygi: you basically need to tell us who you are, what you have done so far, and what you intend to contribute in the future... 10:14 Amaranth HedgeMage: me too, i'm actually using evolution to keep appointments :) 10:14 pygi JaneW, I know, sec ;) 10:14 HedgeMage hehe 10:15 lucasvo maybe HedgeMage could begin? 10:15 Amaranth that might be good 10:15 lucasvo to give pygi a little bit more time? 10:15 jsgotangco sure 10:15 Amaranth give pygi some time to prepare 10:15 JaneW HedgeMage: yes if you are ready now...? 10:15 HedgeMage sure... 10:15 lucasvo HedgeMage, go for it! 10:15 HedgeMage I've been working with computer technology in education since 1992, and with Linux since 1995. In my 2+ months with Edubuntu, I've become an editor of the Cookbook with pygi (Mario Danic) and general helper on IRC, the mailing lists, and wiki. I hope to pick up some development tasks in the future, when cookbook feels "finished", FSVT. === HedgeMage wonders if irssi truncated that 10:15 Amaranth FSVT? 10:16 HedgeMage "for some value thereof" 10:16 Amaranth ah 10:16 HedgeMage it's never really finished... heh 10:16 ogra so shoot then :) 10:16 ogra haha 10:17 jsgotangco well HedgeMage wrote much of the release annoucement for edubuntu dapper too if its worth mentioning 10:17 HedgeMage Yep, thanks jsgotangco :D 10:17 ogra yes, unless we stop development it will be an all time changer :) 10:17 JaneW HedgeMage: you have also been a good consistent presence here 10:17 HedgeMage :) thanks JaneW 10:17 LaserJock HedgeMage: have you had much interaction with non-Edubuntu people? 10:17 cbx33 HedgeMage, has been fantastic === LaserJock puts on his BBQ hat ;-) 10:18 ogra i like the introduction of your wiki :) 10:18 JaneW HedgeMage: so you are interested in getting into the dev side too? 10:18 HedgeMage LaserJock: LOL as in #ubuntu non-edubuntu people, or as in "do you have a life, HedgeMage?" 10:18 highvoltage link? === HedgeMage nods to JaneW 10:18 HedgeMage ogra: thanks 10:18 JaneW HedgeMage: excellent 10:18 lucasvo I think it's depressing, being in school and reading the sentence " The most important things I've learned were never taught.: 10:18 JaneW HedgeMage: lol 10:18 Amaranth HedgeMage: You're an IRCOP? 10:18 LaserJock HedgeMage: as in, interecation with Ubuntu and Kubuntu devs, doc writers, etc. 10:19 LaserJock HedgeMage: have you been or are you planning on contributing outside of Edubuntu is sort of my question? 10:19 HedgeMage LaserJock: Not to other ubuntu stuff, no. I may in the future if an interesting opportunity comes up, but I'm particularly interested in the educational stuff. 10:20 JaneW LaserJock: oi just rem you have an edubuntu hat on here ;) === cbx33 pokes LaserJock 10:20 cbx33 he's poaching 10:20 ogra HedgeMage, which area would you want to work onin edubuntu if you'd do development 10:20 ogra s/onin/on in/ 10:20 cbx33 onion? 10:20 LaserJock JaneW: I do but I think it's important to note that we are a part of a larger community ;-) 10:20 HedgeMage ogra: haven't decided yet... I'm trying not to get too interested in another project while Cookbook still needs so much attention 10:20 JaneW HedgeMage: I think it's really helpful here that you have educational knowledge and background, besides your IT skills. :) 10:21 LaserJock JaneW: it wasn't a negative thing as much as a wondering :-) === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 10:21 spacey hi 10:21 HedgeMage ogra: I'm easily distracted if I'm not careful ;) 10:21 spacey :o 10:21 HedgeMage hi spacey 10:21 JaneW LaserJock: understood :) 10:21 HedgeMage JaneW: thanks... I was raised by a teacher, and used to teach disabled kids, so it is very helpful :) 10:21 LaserJock JaneW: particularly if she wants to work on development she will probably want to be involved with the MOTU 10:21 ogra HedgeMage, i can totally feel with you here, i have the same prob 10:21 JaneW HedgeMage: you made an edubuntu cake!? 10:22 LaserJock \o/ 10:22 HedgeMage JaneW: yes, but I don't have a digital camera so there are no pics until I get film developed 10:22 Amaranth HedgeMage: would you be able to make sure the accessibility stuff is working right? === JaneW is impressed 10:22 HedgeMage :D 10:22 jsgotangco interesting now we have solid competition of ubuntu food 10:22 Amaranth or do you mean a different kind of disabled? === highvoltage waits in anticipation of those pics 10:22 HedgeMage Amaranth: definitely. === jenda endulges the Ubuntu diet... 10:22 lucasvo HedgeMage: you can read braille? 10:23 JaneW HedgeMage: if you can help with accessability that's +++ from me :) 10:23 HedgeMage Amaranth: didn't have any blind kids (by chance, not design) but many deaf kids, and kids with emotional, developmental, and/or physical problems. 10:23 HedgeMage lucasvo: nope 10:23 HedgeMage lucasvo: could probably learn, and probably should, I have a blind nephew 10:23 jsgotangco HedgeMage: we neeeeeed more people with realy life a11y experience 10:23 jsgotangco s/realy/real 10:23 HedgeMage I'm often an accessability nag :) 10:23 Amaranth Score. 10:23 jsgotangco profit 10:24 ogra jsgotangco, we (edubuntu) need more people with general dev knowledge :) 10:24 LaserJock shall we vote? or shall we continue the HedgeMage love fest? 10:24 JaneW ogra: INDEED 10:24 jsgotangco well i was talking with m a11y hat on :/ 10:24 JaneW I am ready to vote I think === jsgotangco sits in a corner 10:24 JaneW anymore questions anyone? 10:24 cbx33 HedgeMage, where do you think edubuntu needs most improvement? 10:24 ogra i think we all know HedgeMage good enough :) 10:24 HedgeMage cbx33: hmmm... === HedgeMage thinks === LaserJock thinks cbx33 is running for a EC seat ;-) 10:25 cbx33 who me sir? 10:25 JaneW heh 10:26 JaneW ok let's vote. 10:26 jsgotangco alright 10:26 JaneW All in favour of HedgeMage as Edubuntu Member? 10:26 HedgeMage cbx33: I think we need to make sure we have an installer that offers some lighter stuff for more hardware-poor areas as defaults. 10:26 jsgotangco happy to vote based on merits, but should sign CoC 10:26 HedgeMage cbx33: that would be #1 on my list. 10:26 highvoltage +1 for HedgeMage 10:26 ogra +1 from me based on good experience with HedgeMage 10:26 HedgeMage jsgotangco: ack, I did that right before my lappy died... must not have gotten posted well 10:27 jsgotangco cheers 10:27 cbx33 +1 from me if I were able to vote :p 10:27 JaneW +1 definitely (with note to say please strongly consider getting involved in dev side, as it's the biggest single need) 10:27 ogra +++ 10:27 HedgeMage :) 10:27 ogra LaserJock, ? 10:27 ogra jsgotangco, ? 10:27 HedgeMage I think I bored him to sleep ;) 10:27 LaserJock doh, sorry, keyboard was acting up === j_ack [n=nico@p508D8CDA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 10:27 LaserJock +1 from me 10:28 ogra jsgotangco, fallen asleep ? 10:28 JaneW jsgotangco: yes COC signing would be a prereq anyway 10:28 LaserJock HedgeMage: you're an awesome part of the Edubuntu community and I wish you luck as you continue your efforts :-) 10:28 jsgotangco no still here 10:28 HedgeMage LaserJock: Thanks! 10:28 mhz heheh 10:28 ogra indeed, we can approve LP team membershib for non ubunteros 10:28 jsgotangco ogra: huh? 10:28 ogra *cant 10:28 mhz oh 10:28 HedgeMage I'll re-do and re-upload right now 10:28 ogra jsgotangco, your vote ? 10:28 JaneW jsgotangco: please give a clear vote + or - please 10:28 Amaranth that reminds me, i need to figure out how to get my key signed 10:29 jsgotangco +1 sorry 10:29 highvoltage +ONE!!111!11cos(0) 10:29 JaneW jsgotangco: thanks 10:29 ogra or 0 === HedgeMage realizes her private key is only on the dead lappy and in a safe deposit box 10:29 ogra yay 10:29 JaneW HedgeMage: it's unanimous then, welcome! 10:29 HedgeMage grrr 10:29 HedgeMage JaneW: Thank you! 10:29 mhz ya! HedgeMage is EC!!! === HedgeMage does a happy dance 10:29 ogra HedgeMage, welcome aboard !!! 10:29 highvoltage HedgeMage: welcome to the team :) 10:29 mhz duh 10:29 cbx33 congrats HedgeMage 10:29 ogra now get your CoC signed :) 10:29 mhz EM 10:29 highvoltage mhz: EC? i thought we were voting for member! 10:29 JaneW mhz: no edubuntu member not EC === jenda shakes HedgeMage's hand... and then stops getting in the way of the meeting... === Hirion [firstname.lastname@example.org] has left #ubuntu-meeting  10:30 HedgeMage ogra: once I visit the bank :/ I could make a new key, I guess. 10:30 LaserJock HedgeMage: safe deposit box? that should make here geeky enought to work on the dev side, right ;-) 10:30 mhz highvoltage: sorry guys... one handed at this point 10:30 HedgeMage LaserJock: heh 10:30 JaneW jenda: it's ok, we are a bit less formal here :) 10:30 ogra HedgeMage, well, it needs to be signed 10:30 HedgeMage thanks, jenda :) and thanks for coming to support me 10:30 highvoltage mhz: please keep both your hands on keyboard during meetings *ahem* 10:30 cbx33 HedgeMage, you deserve it 10:30 HedgeMage ogra: I'll make a new one right now 10:30 jenda support? I was just looking ;) 10:30 Amaranth *giggle* 10:30 JaneW highvoltage: ! === HedgeMage closes screen for a sec to do that 10:30 mhz highvoltage: can't right now, but will in a mins. 10:30 highvoltage lol! 10:31 Amaranth pygi: Ready? 10:31 pygi Amaranth, yup :P 10:31 ogra then move on :) 10:31 pygi excuse me for bad writing first :P 10:31 JaneW ogra: is there any auto checking for COC signed before allowing membership, or do we need to check manually? === jarufe [email@example.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 10:31 pygi My name is Mario Danic, and my FOSS life started somewhere 10:31 pygi around Slackware 2.x. I am contributing to Ubuntu since it's very 10:31 pygi own starts and first release, and trying to randomly help 10:31 pygi where I am welcome to do so. For Edubuntu, I've been maintaining 10:31 pygi and writing the "How to Cook Edubuntu?" stuff with Susan (HedgeMage), 10:31 pygi which I hope will even improve in the future. For other things, I've made 10:31 pygi effort with few other people to bring and package n-m 0.6.2 into/for dapper, 10:31 pygi and fixing all that bunch of bugs. For Edubuntu in general for Edgy, 10:31 pygi I plan to pursue S-C-P to make it the best tool of it's kind 10:31 pygi ever, and I hope to even more bug ogra and the rest of folks 10:31 mhz HedgeMage: cool, women's ideas are always needed 10:31 pygi at #edubuntu, and will be holding amongst others, presentation 10:31 pygi about Edubuntu at Hungarian Linux Users Conference. 10:31 pygi On other thoughts, I plan to contribute to Kubuntu for Edgy 10:32 pygi in form of KDE UI for bzr, and perhaps, but just perhaps writing 10:32 pygi a guidance module for Grub. Also, I am mentoring 3 students 10:32 pygi for SoC, so perhaps we can have some great stuff for edgy if 10:32 Amaranth eek 10:32 pygi it all turns out good. If I am forced again, I might pursue 10:32 pygi membership in MOTU so I wouldn't need to bother ogra for every lill' 10:32 pygi upload :) 10:32 pygi o joy :) 10:32 Amaranth two lines :P 10:32 ogra JaneW, manually is the safe bet think 10:32 ogra pygi, wow that were two long sentences :) 10:32 highvoltage that's a long two lines indeed. 10:32 cbx33 nice pygi 10:33 JaneW pygi: thanks === cbx33 notes pygi has helped out me a lot with learning python to get me started on the dev side 10:33 Amaranth am i the only one who just started this stuff with ubuntu 4.10? :P === ogra knocks on the wiki "hello ?" 10:34 ogra ah, now it loads :) 10:34 highvoltage Amaranth: i used ubuntu since it was called no-name-yet.com 10:34 JaneW pygi: generally I think you are very enthusiastic and keen, and are very motivated 10:34 Amaranth i meant linux in general 10:34 Amaranth again, pygi is my hero :) 10:34 ogra pygi, slack 2.0 ? that was '95 or something ? 10:34 jsgotangco yeah 10:34 pygi ogra, :P 10:34 highvoltage pygi: after the cookbook is complete, do you plan on doing additional modules/writings for it? 10:35 JaneW pygi: I would just caution you to be aware of not being too demanding at times, and to realise that sometimes there are priorities. So people can't always get to your task immediately. I do think you know this though. 10:35 pygi highvoltage, yup, ofcourse, improving cookbook is always there :) We even plan on publishing "How to cook Edgy Edubuntu?" :) 10:35 JaneW pygi: I have been very impressed with you taking the Cookbook on and actually getting something done with that (and many thanks to HedgeMage for that too) 10:35 jsgotangco pygi: out of curiousity rather than edubuntu related, what's your plan on n-m? === jsgotangco sorry had to ask that 10:36 pygi JaneW, ofcourse, no worries :) 10:36 pygi jsgotangco, Keybuk said we wont provide further integration, and considering I am not any kind of uploader, I cant do much with it currently :( 10:36 LaserJock pygi: did you start with the EdubuntuCookbook when you started the How to cook Edubuntu doc? 10:36 JaneW pygi: and thanks for all the help with the SoC application reviewing etc, I know it took a lot of your time, so thanks for being ever willing with that :)) 10:36 ogra LaserJock, the are the same 10:36 ogra *they 10:37 ogra EdubuntuCookbook is just the old name 10:37 pygi LaserJock, "How To Cook Edubuntu?" = Edubuntu Cookbook ;) 10:37 LaserJock ogra: umm, you sure? They didn't look the same to me 10:37 pygi JaneW, thank you ;) 10:37 JaneW pygi: I think if you can manage to become a MOTU that will help a lot, and you will become that much more useful to ogra 10:37 lucasvo Amaranth: I started using linux when 4.10 was already released, but I first used Suse then switched to ubuntu in 5.04 === highvoltage thinks the ? at the end of How to cook edubuntu is a bit strane :) 10:37 HedgeMage umm, what's MOTU ? 10:37 mhz Amaranth: I did 10:38 LaserJock HedgeMage: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU 10:38 ogra HedgeMage, masters of the universe 10:38 cbx33 Master of the Universe HedgeMage 10:38 lucasvo HedgeMage: master of the universe 10:38 pygi highvoltage, hehe :) 10:38 HedgeMage ahh 10:38 ogra HedgeMage, the universe maintainers 10:38 mhz Amaranth: I did started ubuntu stuff with warty 10:38 ogra mhz, he meant linux stuff :) 10:38 ogra in general 10:38 LaserJock pygi: have you talked to the doc team about the cookbook? 10:38 Amaranth before warty i only knew enough about linux to chmod stuff so it would work with CGI :P 10:38 pygi LaserJock, ofcourse :) 10:38 mhz ogra: i noticed right after <enter> 10:38 mhz :( 10:38 ogra :) === th1a [firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mhz is also one handed and one-eye it seems :) 10:39 Amaranth then i started looking for up-to-date gnome packages for debian and saw something about ubuntu (i think on slashdot) :) 10:39 pygi jsgotangco, perhaps we'll see if we can integrate more n-m if new upstream product is out in edgy timeframe 10:39 ogra mhz, so do you want to help out the a11y team with testing while youre that handicapped ? 10:39 pygi I contacted upstream about it 10:40 mhz ogra: lol! 10:40 jsgotangco pygi: cool the current one is amazing already just wanted to give kudos =) 10:40 ogra pygi, whats your vision beyond s-c-p for edubuntu development ? 10:41 ogra any specific direction you'd like to move in development wise ? 10:41 mhz pygi: I have read some many parts of the cookbook, not all yet, but yeah, great ! 10:41 ogra (or education wise even) 10:41 JaneW pygi: also will you be advocating edubuntu in your local community? 10:42 pygi ogra, I'd like to get more involved in this LTSP stuff so we could improve it, and working on HUB *which is not just edubuntu related* for backup stuff 10:42 ogra cool 10:42 pygi JaneW, ofcourse, see wiki :P 10:42 pygi ogra, if you agree ofcourse :) 10:42 jsgotangco ogra: are you still pursuing ltsp-manager? 10:42 lucasvo pygi: it's free software :) 10:42 pygi jsgotangco, yup 10:43 ogra jsgotangco, its a spec now :) === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 10:43 jsgotangco cool hoping to merge soon then 10:43 Amaranth that reminds me, i need to get my local LUG to stop meeting in bars so i can pitch edubuntu to the department of education IT guy :) 10:43 JaneW pygi: right, doing so 10:43 ogra pygi, what about diva ? it isnt packaged yet in ubuntu ? 10:44 highvoltage diva? 10:44 pygi ogra, no, it isnt packaged because we currently require CVS dependencies 10:44 Amaranth video editor 10:44 ogra highvoltage, see his wikipage 10:44 pygi but that will change in a release that is to happen in like 3 days 10:44 highvoltage ah 10:44 jsgotangco l337 mono-based video editor 10:44 Amaranth was a SoC project last year, it's awesome (or will be) 10:44 pygi Amaranth, it's is more then awesome ;) 10:44 pygi 0.0.3 is mini revolution ;) 10:45 ogra seems liek a good motu entry project then ;) 10:45 ogra *like 10:45 pygi ogra, indeed ;) 10:45 LaserJock yes 10:46 ogra has anybody additional questions or is anybody missing an answer or shall we vote ? 10:46 HedgeMage I'm all for voting :) === highvoltage is good === jsgotangco gives +1 and second mentions awesome SoC work 10:47 mhz Can I make a question to pygi ? 10:47 ogra sure 10:47 HedgeMage so do I get to vote? or am I too new? === highvoltage gives +1, and props to good doc work 10:47 ogra HedgeMage, only the 5 council members may actually vote, but non council members may cheer :) 10:47 LaserJock doh, I had 1 question left, can I ask it? 10:47 mhz pygi: how many teachers in your local community may get involvd in Edubuntu? 10:47 HedgeMage ogra: ahh okay === HedgeMage cheers 10:47 ogra LaserJock, sure === HedgeMage tries to look less clueless 10:48 pygi mhz, just 2 for now actually :-/ I am talking with other schools tho, and they seem willing to make the switch 10:48 mhz pygi: i reprhrase.. Have you talked to teachers in your local comm.? 10:48 pygi mhz, yup 10:48 LaserJock pygi: why are you seeking membership through Edubuntu as opposed to Ubuntu? === cbx33 cheers LOUDLY 10:48 mhz pygi: thx. 10:48 pygi LaserJock, not sure actually, does it matter anyway? :) 10:49 pygi I mostly contribute to Edubuntu lately anyway 10:49 mhz \o/ \o/ \o/ for pygi === HedgeMage cheers for pygi === JaneW votes +1, thanks for the hard work so far, and keep it up. 10:49 mhz pygi: I am currently looking for teachers to read CookBook, that's the reason to the question :) === ogra votes +1 based on well... everything 10:49 LaserJock pygi: it does matter in a way, to me anyway 10:50 pygi LaserJock, hm, well, as I said, was mostly involved in Edubuntu lately except from that network manager stuff 10:50 jsgotangco yes 10:50 pygi and was bugging edubuntu people most :) 10:50 JaneW heh 10:50 jsgotangco but you made a lot of people happy with n-m 10:51 LaserJock pygi: ok, fine 10:51 lucasvo n-m? 10:51 pygi LaserJock, tell if I should explain more :) 10:51 cbx33 network ager 10:51 cbx33 manager 10:51 lucasvo ah 10:51 mhz m+ 10:51 Amaranth is EM status enough to be MOTU? 10:51 mhz heheh 10:51 HedgeMage mhz: I already have teachers lined up :D 10:51 Amaranth or do you need UM too? 10:51 ogra Amaranth, yep, its enough 10:51 ogra UM is contained in EM 10:51 ogra :) 10:51 Amaranth neat 10:52 highvoltage Amaranth: you have to either be an EM or UM member to apply for MOTU, but being an EM member != motu member 10:52 mhz HedgeMage: cool, that is key to Edubuntu real success, computer guys are easier to get happy with Edubuntu 10:52 Amaranth i'm a signed key away from being an ubuntu member :P 10:52 HedgeMage mhz: yep 10:52 Amaranth for about 18 months or so now :/ 10:52 LaserJock +1 from me for sustained and substantial contribution to both Ubuntu and Edubuntu communities 10:52 Amaranth maybe 12 10:52 HedgeMage mhz: I recruited my mom and a few of her teacher friends... won't have them until school gets out in the next week or so, though 10:52 ogra yay 10:52 Amaranth </random> 10:52 lucasvo Amaranth: signed key? 10:52 ogra welcome pygi ! 10:52 jsgotangco LaserJock: that sounded soooo EC-like 10:52 pygi thanks ogra ;) 10:53 Amaranth lucasvo: need to get my key signed so i can sign the CoC 10:53 lucasvo ah 10:53 LaserJock jsgotangco: I try ;-) 10:53 ogra Amaranth, we'll find someone over time ... 10:53 mhz HedgeMage: good, there is a mini survey I would like to pass on to them (oops, in spanish but can get it into english soon) 10:53 highvoltage Amaranth: you don't need your key signed to sign the CoC 10:53 Amaranth highvoltage: err 10:53 ogra highvoltage, you do 10:53 HedgeMage mhz: yeah, I'd need a translation to English first :) 10:54 JaneW also we need more ppl blogging about edubuntu, reviewing it and getting it mentioned in the press... === HedgeMage nods 10:54 LaserJock I don't think you have to have a signed key to sign the CoC === mhz closes his mouth again until meeting is over 10:54 mhz (at least about non-meeting stuff 10:54 highvoltage hmmm... i just used my normal gpg key and it worked (perhaps i'm not understanding properly) 10:54 Amaranth LaserJock: you do, otherwise I could create a key saying I'm Mark Shuttleworth and sign it 10:54 JaneW highvoltage: you are right 10:54 pygi JaneW, slowly things are changing :) 10:54 JaneW I signed the COC with my brand new key before it was signed (I THINK) 10:55 ogra highvoltage, in any case you cant upload with an unsigned key, if LP accepts unsigned keys for CoC signing, thats a bug 10:55 LaserJock Amaranth: and you could sign the CoC with it 10:55 HedgeMage That's why I wanted to use my regular key (signed by many people) not the new one, but I can always sign again 10:55 highvoltage ogra: i think that might be the case, hey 10:55 mhz JaneW: I got my second edubuntu article in 900 print outs :) 10:55 Amaranth LaserJock: that's what i meant 10:55 JaneW I actually physically signed the CoC in ink at first! 10:55 JaneW mhz: well done!! 10:55 Amaranth LaserJock: I could create a key with sabdfl's name and sign the CoC with it 10:55 mhz JaneW: well, that would be about 400 schools only 10:55 LaserJock Amaranth: right, and there is nothing stopping you from doing that 10:55 jenda whoa... really? I don't have a signed key, and I'm applying for membership... 10:55 Amaranth LaserJock: but if i have to be in the PGP trusted set to sign the CoC that doesn't work 10:56 ogra wow, we actually filled 1h i wouldnt have expected that without having our general agenda 10:56 HedgeMage lol 10:56 ogra is there any other business ? 10:56 Amaranth because before someone signs my sabdfl key they look at my ID card 10:56 JaneW ogra: we do tend to chat ;) 10:56 HedgeMage none here 10:56 lucasvo did you already vote? 10:56 ogra lucasvo, ages ago :) === highvoltage is good for bed 10:56 lucasvo I think I missed that 10:56 lucasvo :) 10:56 HedgeMage night night highvoltage === JaneW congratulates HedgeMage and pygi again === jsgotangco is good to go back to bed 10:57 HedgeMage :D 10:57 HedgeMage thanks! 10:57 Amaranth and they say "you're not sabdfl!" and punch me in the face 10:57 cbx33 congrats everyone 10:57 ogra if nobody has any extra topics, we'll clonse then :) 10:57 lucasvo at least I have school late tomorrow 10:57 pygi thanks JaneW ;) === Amaranth stops talking 10:57 cbx33 <-----------------------meeting notes end here-------------------------------------->