2007-08-22

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This is the Edubuntu Team Meeting, started on 22 August 2007, 12H00 - 14H00 (Etc/GMT).

Attendance

Agenda

  • Technical
    • Where are we in the development cycle:
      1. What was the last deadline?
      2. What is the next deadline ?
    • Progress over the last week?
    • Items needing to be sorted out for the next deadline.
    • Issues needing assistance for the next deadline.
    • Any Other Items under Artwork.
    • Any Other Items under Documentation.
    • Planned Activities for coming week.

Minutes

* Where are we in the development cycle?

  • ogra reports back as follows:

Any Other Business

  • None reported.

IRC Logs

02:02   RichEd  hi all ... start in 1 min ...
02:02   juliux  ogra, ubotu is not here;)
02:02   ogra    ah
02:03   RichEd  Okay ... here is a test version of the agenda for Edubuntu-Devel ... the old tech part of the 2 hour meeting.
02:03   RichEd      *
02:03   RichEd        Technical
02:03   RichEd            o
02:03   RichEd              Where are we in the development cycle:
02:03   RichEd                  +
02:03   RichEd                    What was the last deadline ?
02:03   RichEd                        #
02:03   RichEd                          Item
02:03   RichEd                        #
02:03   RichEd                          Date
02:03   RichEd                  +
02:03   RichEd                    What is the next deadline ?
02:03   RichEd                        #
02:03   RichEd                          Item
02:03   RichEd                        #
02:03   RichEd                          Date
02:03   RichEd            o
02:03   RichEd              Progress over the last week
02:03   RichEd            o
02:03   RichEd              Items needing to be sorted out for the next deadline
02:03   RichEd            o
02:03   RichEd              Issues needing assistance for the next deadline
02:03   RichEd            o
02:03   RichEd              Any Other Items under Artwork
02:03   RichEd            o
02:04   RichEd              Any Other Items under Documentation
02:04   RichEd            o
02:04   RichEd              Planned Activities for coming week
02:04   RichEd  let's try this out today and see if it works ... I'll drive the agenda.
02:04   RichEd  ogra: Where are we in the development cycle ?
02:04   RichEd  What was the last deadline ?
02:04   RichEd  Item
02:04   RichEd  Date
02:04   RichEd  ??
02:04   RichEd  sorry about the shody paste ... wiki cut & paste adds line breaks :(
02:04   RichEd  *shoddy
02:05   ogra    well, lets see if my paste is better then :)
02:05   ogra    == General ==
02:05   ogra    Done:
02:05   ogra    - lots of screensaver fixing for thin client usage (fixed several crashers, no graphics intensive modes being used anymore and no fading)
02:05   ogra    - lots of merges and code reviews of ltsp/ldm code (still more ahead)
02:05   ogra    - set spec staus where possible (see list below)
02:05   ogra    Ahead:
02:05   ogra    - TCM needs a lot of love (fixing the userlist functions to get it going with new ldm, easier vnc setup for the chroot/image)
02:05   ogra    - one massive bug outstanding to be solved before tribe 6 (bug 121547)
02:05   ogra    - tribe 5 planned for this thursday, please help tesing
02:05   ogra    - poking around with libflashsupport to get it to multiverse (flash sound on thin clients)
02:06   ogra    - get moodle status from moquist (no news yet, he contacted pitti about postgres db creation scripts)
02:06   ogra    == Specs ==
02:06   ogra    Implemented:
02:06   ogra    - ltsp-boot-performance
02:06   ogra    - ldm-improvements
02:06   ogra    - fully-automatic-swapserver
02:06   ogra    - ldm-loadbalancing -> vagrant to set status
02:06   ogra    Deferred for gutsy+1:
02:06   ogra    - ltspfs-virtual-hal-devices
02:06   ogra    - gphoto-ltspfs
02:06   ogra    - ltsp-update-manager-integration
02:06   ogra    - ltsp-management-gui -> (hope to get global settings going at least)
02:06   ogra    - ltsp-fat-clients
02:06   ogra    - ltsp-local-apps -> sbalneav to set status
02:06   ogra    Unknown:
02:06   ogra    - ltsp-palm-devices -> sbalneav to report status
02:06   ogra    i'll try to maintain such a report in the future, should keep the tech part short
02:07   RichEd  that's great :) ... will be easy to make minutes & action list out of that ...
02:07   zul     ./topic
02:07   zul     sorry
02:07   ogra    right
02:07   ogra    zul, ubotu is gone, so no topic updates atm ...
02:07   RichEd  can we work through my section suggestions ... to see how it fits together ... I still think we need contest as to where we are in the dev cycle (I know I do) :)
02:07   ogra    (edubuntu meeting now)
02:07   RichEd  What was the last deadline ?
02:08   RichEd  What is the next deadline ?
02:08   ogra    no idea ?
02:08   RichEd  I mean in terms of the dev cycle ... last one was tribe 4 ?
02:08   gpocentek       ogra: I think I have a libflashsupport somewhere if it can help
02:08   gpocentek       a package*
02:08   ogra    last deadline was UVF/feature freeze
02:09   ogra    gpocentek, i have one ready already, but it was rejected, the one from the EdubuntuFAQ is horribly packaged
02:09   RichEd  ah ... and explain that in 1 sentence for the technically challenged ... what is UVF ?
02:09   ogra    i need to get it going with gnutls instead of libssl etc to get it included
02:09   gpocentek       ogra: ok
02:09   ogra    upstresam version freeze
02:09   ogra    nothing new can enter main anymore
02:09   RichEd  :) thanks
02:10   ogra    (unless you do a bit of paperwork and get a review)
02:10   RichEd  and what is the next deadline ... item and date ?
02:10   ogra    feture freeze is no new features can be adeed anymore (same exception rules)
02:10   ogra    next immediate dealine is tribe5 (thursday)
02:10   RichEd  * Items needing to be sorted out for the next deadline ?
02:10   ogra    next important deadline is beta release
02:11   ogra    bug 121547 needs to be solved before next tribe release
02:11   toutouff        I've got a problem with pbuilder, could you help me ?
02:11   ogra    (tribe6, archive is friozen this week until tribe5 is out)
02:11   ogra    toutouff, we're in the middle of a meeting and this is no support channel, try #ubuntu-motu
02:12   toutouff        sorry, wrong channel
02:12   toutouff        :/
02:12   RichEd  ogra: quick summary of the bug ? and what needs to be done to squash it ?
02:12   ogra    i need to rewrite the installed bits for ltsp
02:13   RichEd  and will you be able to manage in time for the deadline ?
02:13   ogra    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/121547
02:13   ogra    at least for beta i can guarantee it ... cant promise it for tribe 6
02:13   ogra    but i'll do my best
02:13   RichEd  * Issues needing assistance for the next deadline ?
02:13   ogra    having two tribe releases instead of one before beta doesnt help here :/
02:14   RichEd  can anyone help you with that bug or anything else ?
02:14   ogra    not wi5th that bug, no
02:14   ogra    i listed actions above where others are required
02:15   ogra    moodle is still in the clouds, no feedback from mmoquist yet apart from him saying he wants to have it ready
02:15   ogra    sbalneav and vagrant need to clean up theoir spec statuses
02:15   RichEd  will you prod them, or will it help if i ask nicely as well :)
02:15   ogra    beyond that i get all help i can get from scottie during this bugfixing phase
02:16   ogra    i'll go after them, all fine
02:16   highvoltage     ogra: is vagrant doing full-time ltsp now?
02:16   ogra    no
02:16   ogra    he's doing freegek
02:16   ogra    *freegeek
02:16   highvoltage     ah
02:17   ogra    he still didnt get his stuff sorted
02:17   RichEd  * Any Other Items under Artwork
02:18   ogra    anyway, thats all from tech side, any other questions ?
02:18   ogra    not yet ... i'll need to tackle the artwork package and do some cleanups .. but thats for tribe6
02:18   RichEd  Fine ... Jill mailed to say thanks for the feedback in the meeting last week.
02:18   ogra    scott is already preparing docs for the new ltsp stuff we have
02:19   RichEd  I mentioned the abstract concept for the default desktop, and she said she would try to complete some she had started.
02:19   ogra    good
02:19   ogra    i'm fine with the one we have as "young" flavor
02:19   RichEd  When is the final freeze for artwork ?
02:19   RichEd  official and unofficial ;)
02:19   ogra    (the logo could be a bit less in the face though)
02:20   RichEd  are you talking about her sample ? the logo comment ?
02:20   highvoltage     RichEd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
02:20   ogra    sept 20th is final
02:20   ogra    yes
02:20   ogra    i'm talking about the sample
02:20   RichEd  okay ... i'll add that to the comment page she is working off
02:20   ogra    the logo is very huge and to much in the face imho
02:21   RichEd  I wanted to give her samples of all of the old default desktops we shipped, but art.ubuntu.com is out of action
02:21   RichEd  So I have given her the 2 I have access to ... LTS and feisty
02:21   ogra    osdir ususally has a bunch
02:21   RichEd  osdir ? not familiar with that ?
02:21   ogra    LTS was the chalkboard ...
02:21   ogra    osdir.com
02:21   RichEd  okay will check for more ...
02:22   ogra    edgy and feisty were the best ones we had yet
02:22   RichEd  * Any Other Items under Documentation
02:22   ogra    as i said, scott is on it and i'll review
02:22   RichEd  okay ... is that it for tech then ? anyone with questions ?
02:23   RichEd  Okay .... some general discussion for people who are interested:
02:23   RichEd  * how do we get more users at the meeting ?
02:24   RichEd  I can advertise in the mail list, but I need to get an idea of what topics will pull people in to attend.
02:24   juliux  RichEd, for me one meeting per weeks is too much
02:25   juliux  RichEd, if it would be only once a month then there could be more topics and more people
02:25   ogra    juliux, well, we have different people at the differently scheduled meetings
02:25   RichEd  juliux: so would you suggest tech every week, and users once a month ?
02:25   juliux  RichEd, yes
02:25   RichEd  If we have a edubuntu-users section of the meeting, we can start some debate / poll topics on the mail list, and then meet to discuss monthly ?
02:25   RichEd  so keep it down to 1 hour per week for tech & general dev ...
02:25   ogra    one in the evening and one in the morning
02:26   juliux  ogra, that is also fine
02:26   ogra    and we need to find a solution for EC if we do that as well
02:26   RichEd  that would work for me as well ... every second week ...
02:26   RichEd  but then we are always at the same time ... no variance for the US people
02:26   ogra    RichEd, twice a month with alternating times
02:26   ogra    as we have iot now, but skip two a month
02:27   RichEd  perhaps first meeting of the month ... and do the EC stuff ... and then 3 weeks after that ?
02:27   RichEd  that will alternate the times ?
02:27   ogra    yeah
02:27   juliux  RichEd, one meeting in the morning one in the evening;)
02:28   RichEd  okay, let me look at the dates coming up ... and play a bit and then make some suggestions
02:28   ogra    good
02:28   RichEd  pips1 is not here for community
02:29   RichEd  I have nothing else to discuss for today ... and some conference calls coming up ...
02:29   RichEd  Anyone else with topics / questions ?
02:29   juliux  yeah
02:29   juliux  i want to invite you all the german ubucon;) we will have an extra education track
02:29   RichEd  great :)
02:30   RichEd  have you got a fridge article up ?
02:30   juliux  RichEd, yes
02:30   RichEd  and did you send a mail to the edubuntu lists ?
02:30   juliux  RichEd, there will be an other if the programm is online
02:30   juliux  RichEd, that will come next week
02:30   RichEd  good ... what sort of audience are you expecting ? size and type of person ?
02:31   RichEd  and give the dates and locations here in the channel, so it can go in the minutes
02:31   juliux  we hope betwenn 200 and 500 people
02:31   juliux  and there will we everything from developer over normal users to newbies
02:31   RichEd  all linux converts already, or some people looking to jump in ?
02:31   juliux  date is 20. and 21. october in krefeld/germany
02:32   juliux  we think some new people
02:32   juliux  the university will invite local schools
02:32   RichEd  do you need any more material / presentations / ubuntu stuff ?
02:32   juliux  we only need talks;)
02:32   cliebow__       ttfn
02:33   RichEd  I have a presentation on Edubuntu reference cases ... if someone is prepared to speak on that, I can help them with the slides ?
02:34   RichEd  okay ... any other issues for today ?
02:34   RichEd  ogra ... are you okay to wind up now ?
02:34   juliux  RichEd, cool
02:34   ogra    sure :)
02:34   RichEd  going once ...
02:34   RichEd  going twice ...
02:35   RichEd  BONG ... thanks all