## page was copied from EmiratesTeam/Meetings/IRCMeetingLogs20110827 ## page was copied from EmiratesTeam/Meetings/IRCMeetingLogs20110827 <> Minutes of Meeting [[EmiratesTeam/Meetings/IRCMeetingSummary20110924]] This is the log of our fifth IRC meeting, held on #ubuntu-ae channel on Saturday, 24th September 2011: {{{ [18:51] == iOmar [d9a4e322@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.164.227.34] has joined #ubuntu-ae [18:51] -ChanServ- [#ubuntu-ae] Welcome to #ubuntu-ae. This channel is publicly logged at irclogs.ubuntu.com. Use of this channel implies acceptance of the terms at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService [18:51] I am away  ... joining in 10 mins [18:58] == rverrips [~rverrips@80.227.121.170] has joined #ubuntu-ae [18:59] == ragesh [~Ragesh@dxb-b122616.alshamil.net.ae] has joined #ubuntu-ae [18:59] hii guys [19:02] == Uxthui [~ubuntu@92.99.220.192] has joined #ubuntu-ae [19:04] Hi everybody I am in [19:04] Ditto. [19:04] hii [19:04] Sorry for being a bit late ... [19:04] Lets get cooking [19:05] So for today's meeting I did post up that I would like to discuss with the community the future format of the monthly sessions [19:06] as I have been running out of ideas and I think it would be good for variety comming from different members [19:06] I did discuss a couple days back with Toki on that briefly [19:07] I would suggest the following format [19:07] Divide the the monthly session into 3 parts [19:08] First is a 10 mins overview of Ubuntu for newbies [19:08] Second is a How to Session on an Ubuntu related topic [19:08] Three is Tea, Coffee and Snacks for a social end to the night. [19:09] Well thats my two cents ... for the session [19:09] I would like to hear everyone's thoughts so please go ahead [19:10] I think that's a satisfactory arrangement. But what exactly do we do in the first part? [19:10] that would be a good idea [19:11] The first part would be a brief intro to Ubuntu similar to the "What in the world is Ubuntu" [19:11] presentation [19:12] that's really good [19:13] else newbies wont understand whats goin on [19:13] We can then rotate the sessions between core members who can present How to sessions [19:13] Excellent. In support of that idea, a good how-to will demonstrate the flexibility and prowess of Ubuntu to draw more newbies. [19:14] Forgive my ignorance (maybe I was late) what are we talking about? [19:14] Hey Roy good to hear from you [19:15] i remember from newbies, joseph was talkin abt free training [19:15] for newbies [19:15] Are Monthly sessions same as what we used to call Loco Meetings? [19:15] Well we were discussing the format of the sessions to have a more rigid format [19:15] yes .. [19:15] rverrips, yes. [19:15] Ok, got it … sorry for the diversion - Please continue [19:16] The idea is to have a 10 mins intro to Ubuntu [19:16] I'd prefer the term consistent instead of rigid. :) [19:16] then a How to Session and finally a close with a social gathering over coffee and tea [19:16] consistent it is Toki .. [19:17] so I would like to have people designated as speakers for the community such as a  the likes of you Roy .. [19:17] and they can have a small How to session every couple of months which cycles between great speakers [19:17] Happy to help where I can, iOmar - Any opportunity to talk about linux and I'm there :-) [19:18] GREAT! [19:18]  * rverrips I think ragesh was at the KVM presentation I did? [19:18] The intro can be the same one i presented to the students at AUS or an updated one like http://prezi.com/80mhgs_kxczb/ubuntu-overview/ [19:19] Ragesh? [19:20] Can you suggest people from the group who you think can present at the monthly events [19:21] I think Joseph has some helpful input/presentations he mentioned to me a while ago? [19:21] Yes Jospeh is a great resource [19:21] If we can track down Daniel again he had some fun stuff with kernel hardening he mentioned … [19:21] Daniel moved back to Canada just recently [19:22] i'm sorry guys i was a lil busy [19:22]  * rverrips sighs … miss Daniel … [19:22] rverrips: I was not there [19:23]  * rverrips apologies ragesh, must've been another ragesh :-) [19:23] rverrips: I didnt know abt the presentation else i would have come [19:23] :) [19:24] Well since now we have a great venue we can plan things in a more concrete fashion. [19:24] iOmar, as you know I haven't been to the last few meetings - Am I correct in assuming the venue we meet at now allows for presentations and is less of a "Ubuntu guys having Coffee" scene? [19:24] So are we gonna choose someone to do a presentation next week or do you already have something, iOmar? [19:25] Yup thats right Roy, Toki may be you'd like to volunteer .... I would like to confess that I need help in get the group's act together in terms of group governance [19:25] and planning. [19:26] I'd love to volunteer and do a presentation, but I don't have any good how-to on mind right now. Maybe I'll ask Ubuntu Forums for help. [19:26] In this venue we have a whole auditorium with beanbag sofas all for us. [19:27] Venue sounds great - Send a thank you to whoever arranged that - I'm trusting it doesn't cost us anything! [19:27] woow that would be great [19:27] == nlsthzn [~nlsthzn@2.51.151.188] has joined #ubuntu-ae [19:27] == nlsthzn [~nlsthzn@2.51.151.188] has quit [Changing host] [19:27] == nlsthzn [~nlsthzn@unaffiliated/nlsthzn] has joined #ubuntu-ae [19:27] == mode/#ubuntu-ae [+v nlsthzn] by ChanServ [19:27] It doesn't [19:27]  * nlsthzn waves hello [19:27] The man the Legend has arrived [19:27]  * rverrips waves to nlsthzn - Good to see ye' [19:27] <+nlsthzn> Sorry for being late :) [19:27] hey neil [19:28] Good to have you .. [19:28] Welcome, nlsthzn. [19:28] <+nlsthzn> Thx all [19:28] Quick rundown some, nlsthzn? [19:28] The venue doesnt cost us anything since we're a non-profit [19:29] <+nlsthzn> Uxthui,  no worries... carry on :) [19:29] and the organizer was iOmar right? [19:29] he does all the great stuffs [19:30] Maybe we can have Neil come in every couple of months to give a presentation. [19:30] +1 for seeing more of Neil [19:30] <+nlsthzn> ;) [19:31] So shall we collectively take up a month each and rotate in terms of presentations. Joseph, Neil, Roy, Omar, Toki ? [19:32] No objections here. [19:32] I'm good for a schedule - Leave to whoever is "on" that month to work out a standin if he/she can't make it … gives us a long term plan as well! [19:33] Cool would anyone volunteer to devise a schedule for the community [19:33]  * nlsthzn has not idea but it sounds good +1 [19:33] I'd suggest Toki setup the schedule … and put it on the wiki [19:34] What sort of schedule? [19:34] Well basically put the speakers name, and date and timing. [19:34] I mean to tell who's going to do the presentation next? [19:35] Ah, well, if I can find the UCW page again, I can copy it's format. :) [19:36] Now that we're clear on that, can I ask for a change of topic? [19:36] <+nlsthzn> Sounds good that we start using the Wiki more :) [19:36] Launchpad, and recent issues with Meetup has been on my mind. [19:36] Ditto. [19:37] What issues with Meetup?  the meetup.com site, of the actually meetings? [19:37] Site. [19:38] Ok, what are the issues with meetup.com? [19:38] During the confusion with the absence of the Organizer, the one paying for the Meetup page, mailing list did not work at all. [19:38] <+nlsthzn> I never knew (or failed to notice) Meetup costs money... and we have at our disposal all we need for free :) [19:39] well my CC was absent ... :( [19:39] +1 for not knowing before that that iOmar was our gracious benefactor in subsidizing Meetup.com subs [19:39] Only added to the confusion, since we could not contact each other and did not know the reason why, and what's going on. [19:39] Well I'm humbled Roy its nothing ... :) [19:40] And I recently became aware that the email I sent to the 'core' members using Meetup never got to it's recipients. (the message asking for @ubuntu.ae email) [19:42] Do you mind sending it once more .. [19:42]  * nlsthzn gives a +1 for carrying meetup and other initiatives thus far! [19:42] I was already biased against using Meetup as the primary team page, and these issues makes it worse. [19:42] To check? [19:42] I think is we "a core" we can more them to LP and keep meetup.com for bringing folks in and arranging the meetings … [19:43] +1 [19:43] +1 [19:43] <+nlsthzn> +1 (we can't just loose meetup, great place for people to find us0 [19:44] +1 for not loosing meetup.com but I think we can do both LP for core and meetup for publicity [19:44] +1 [19:44] +1 [19:44] Speaking of LP, any progress with Mr Zulfiqar? [19:45] On LP we can create subteams, so if we decide to have our regular mailing list hosted by LP we can create a subteam for the core. [19:45] Well to be frank I haven't reached out to him ... I wanted to your thoughts on this [19:45] <+nlsthzn> We need all things related to ubuntu-ae IMO [19:46] Honestly, I don't care if he will participate or not as long as he is willing to give us control of the EmiratesTeam domains that we require. [19:46] This brings up a question [19:46] He can be be the owner and moderator, but he has to make at least one of the core members an admin. [19:47] I have been told that the format for Ubuntu Local Teams is based on Cities and not Countries [19:47] i.e Dubai Loco , Abu Dhabi Loco etc [19:47] correct me if I'm wrong [19:47] I was under the impression that applies to big countries, a la USA, UK, Australia, etc. [19:48] For them it's like ubuntu-us-ny and the like. [19:50] Roy , Neil? [19:50] iOmar - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoFAQ seems to suggest it best to keep a country wide Loco if you can … [19:50] <+nlsthzn> UAE is small enough... we can't afford to splinter more :) [19:51] Ditto. [19:51] Agreeable Neil [19:51] In the bit of discussion I've have had (via email) with Zulfiqar it doesn't sound like he's open to sharing [19:51] +1 for not spintering [19:51] +1 [19:51] Can we somehow ask the FNC to make nationwide metro a reality sooner? [19:51] :P [19:51] if metro was open source it would be nationwide :-) [19:52] Is there any reason which you can foresee in seeing Zulfiqar not helping if we ask him? [19:52] Free as a beer question applies. Even if the designs and blueprints are open-source, the materials aren't gonna magically appear. [19:53] <+nlsthzn> on a side note the Dubai LUG seems to be gaining some momentum... which is nice... is Zulfiqar active there too? [19:53] iOmar - I can't seem him not wanting to help … [19:53] … but my experience with him is that he tends to delay, postponed, not reply … [19:54] I'd suggest for now we remain an unofficial Loco … [19:54] in a few months, when we've had some more event, meet ups, etc. and have built up some more cred' we can approach the Loco council [19:54] can we talk and discuss things on LP based on our current requirements with the tools open to us as members? [19:55] and not administrators? [19:55] <+nlsthzn> rverrips, true... we are not there yet... but would be nice to start getting the house in order as we go :) [19:55] agreed, Neil, and think if we do as much as we can with what we have, adding the last few pieces will be easier … [19:56] <+nlsthzn> iOmar, launchpad really only gives us mailing lists AFAIK, Uxthui? [19:57] <+nlsthzn> (which we can already use :)) [19:57] Uxthui? rverrips? [19:58] Well yes, if we join ~EmiratesTeam now, there'll be no issues using the mailinglist. [19:58] Yes, but LP it is also the preferred/recommend method to organize a loco … [19:58] But no administrative authority. (And subsequently no subteam). [19:58] Time is running out .. people [19:58] <+nlsthzn> rverrips, but I mean... what does it REALLY give us except a place for people to join and a mailing list :) [19:59] exactly [19:59] nlsthzn - nothing more than you said … [19:59] but it buys some relational credit with Toki :-) [19:59] nlsthzn, fulfill one of the official LoCo requirement. [19:59] :) [19:59] rverrips, good point. [20:00] Till we get critical mass thats when we'd really feel the benefit. [20:00] And also saves us from Metup mailing list trouble. [20:00] <+nlsthzn> Oh for sure... I think we must make work of getting it but not let it stop us :) [20:00] I would like to close on one last topic from last IRC meeting [20:00] And also saves us from Metup mailing list trouble. (which is the foremost reason I want to us LP mailing list) [20:01] Members business cards / Ubuntu marketing material [20:02] I did manage to get an Ubuntu designed card here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3016740/front.png [20:02] and here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3016740/back.png [20:02] front and back [20:03] You can use it as a personal calling card & promote Ubuntu at the same time [20:03] I like the business cards - What are the costs? [20:03] <+nlsthzn> wife has just yelled (again) that the food is ready and getting cold... +1 from me for any good ideas... if not back before the end ... cheers all... [20:03] Some thing around .75 fils a card [20:03] cheers neil ... [20:04] Affordable. [20:04] What is the minimum order quantity? [20:04] But it's missing reference ubuntu-ae team and website. [20:04] I might manage to get a low count 500 but I need to check [20:05] This where we need to set things clear for the General Public, to what site shall they be pointed to? [20:05] 500 unique ones (i.e. 500xiOmar) or 500 total (i.e. 100xiOmar, 100xrverrips, 100xUxthui, etc.) [20:05] I need to check possibly doable [20:05] the latter [20:06] I'd suggest to point them to ubuntu.ae - At the moment that's the Wiki - If we later decide something else we can change the site without changing the calling cards? [20:06] +1 for the idea [20:06] Ditto for ubuntu.ae/ [20:07] but what about ubuntu.com? Which has evrything about Ubuntu? [20:07] Our wiki doesnt really show much [20:07] Well, ubuntu.ae in fromnt and ubuntu.com at back? [20:07] We should perhaps look at the wiki page (ubuntu.ae) and see how can change that to either be "people looking for info on ubuntu"-friendly or "people looking for ubuntu emirates"-friendly [20:08] Something like find us at ubuntu.ae/ [20:08] rverrips good idea [20:08] Something like find us at ubuntu.ae and download at ubuntu.com. [20:08] Guys I need to close this last topic and move it to Meetup discussion board. [20:09] Time is up [20:09] +1 for time up [20:09] Wait, wait, who's doing presentation next month? [20:09] toki [20:09] You mean in two weeks?  +1 for Toki [20:09] +1 for Toki [20:09] +1 [20:10] Guess it's decided. [20:10] I should be able to do November - pencil me in [20:10] Thanks folks for joining another great session. Bye for now. }}}