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Jan 09 16:26:22 <forumsmatthew> FYI... Matthew=me
Jan 09 16:26:59 <ubuntugeek> : )
Jan 09 16:27:47 <ubuntugeek> Ok lets discuss setting up forum teams. I know pricechild you are ready to roll on this idea.. what thoughts do you have
Jan 09 16:28:07 <PriceChild> Well shall we start with the leadership applications?
Jan 09 16:28:11 <PriceChild> make a small shortlist?
Jan 09 16:28:32 <ubuntugeek> yep
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Jan 09 16:28:47 <ubuntugeek> I think we need to take the leadership applications and make a list for sure.
Jan 09 16:29:06 <jdong> yes
Jan 09 16:29:14 <forumsmatthew> are those who applied here?
Jan 09 16:29:43 <Vorian_> i'll speak for jacobmp92[away] - he's in school right now
Jan 09 16:29:56 <PriceChild> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=289810
Jan 09 16:29:58 <ubuntugeek> we might have to do the electing at the next time.. to give more ample time for people to attend.
Jan 09 16:30:02 <jdong> forumsmatthew: let's first make a list of everyone and do one-by-one
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Jan 09 16:30:07 <PriceChild> that thread contains applications only
Jan 09 16:30:09 <ubuntugeek> but we can get a more official list going now
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Jan 09 16:31:02 <jdong> shall we go down the list in order of application?
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Jan 09 16:31:26 <PriceChild> jdong, ok so starting with plb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...26&postcount=2
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Jan 09 16:31:48 <jdong> is plb present?
Jan 09 16:32:12 <PriceChild> I don't think many are jd
Jan 09 16:32:28 <jdong> it looks that way :-/
Jan 09 16:32:59 <PriceChild> any comments on plb?
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Jan 09 16:33:19 <jdong> ok, different approach: who is here seeking application as a Team Leader?
Jan 09 16:33:36 <forumsmatthew> this is an interesting quote from his application
Jan 09 16:33:37 <jdong> so far, I see Vorian_
Jan 09 16:33:38 <forumsmatthew> "the majority of my posts here are more or less rants in the Cafe and suggestions for development"
Jan 09 16:34:06 <Vorian_> jdong: I'm shooting for secretary... not team leader
Jan 09 16:34:25 <jdong> Vorian_: ah, ok
Jan 09 16:34:32 <jdong> forumsmatthew: yeah, I saw that too
Jan 09 16:35:02 <PriceChild> I'm much more impressed by Lord Illian's application which is up next http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...47&postcount=3
Jan 09 16:35:21 <PriceChild> it is also for abs beginners against plb (and also hardware)
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Jan 09 16:35:54 <ubuntugeek> pricechild: I like his application as wel
Jan 09 16:35:56 <ubuntugeek> well*
Jan 09 16:36:11 <forumsmatthew> he's been an active member for some time and a good one as well
Jan 09 16:36:13 <ubuntugeek> Anyone else have comments on him?
Jan 09 16:36:21 <jdong> he looks ideal for beginners
Jan 09 16:36:23 <PriceChild> Lord Illian has also made a sustained positive contribution to the forums
Jan 09 16:36:28 <ubuntugeek> I'll make a list of people then we can make a finalization after we go through the list
Jan 09 16:36:33 <jdong> he seems to have the motivation to help beginners
Jan 09 16:37:14 <ubuntugeek> Ok i'll mark him as a candidate for beginners area
Jan 09 16:37:58 <ubuntugeek> Next, we have http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...71&postcount=4
Jan 09 16:38:04 <ubuntugeek> for beginners as well
Jan 09 16:38:11 <PriceChild> jeffrc313
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Jan 09 16:38:55 <forumsmatthew> I think he has the potential to be a good team member
Jan 09 16:38:57 <PriceChild> he's reasonably active it seems
Jan 09 16:39:05 <ubuntugeek> Matthew: I agree
Jan 09 16:39:13 <jdong> he's not the most active ever, but does regularly visit the forums
Jan 09 16:39:35 <jdong> I find his signature... questionable though?
Jan 09 16:39:41 <PriceChild> Checking his last posts though... are mostly asking for support
Jan 09 16:39:45 <PriceChild> not much giving
Jan 09 16:39:50 <jdong> my site: www.theironknuckle.com
Jan 09 16:39:50 <jdong> "I drop science like girls be droppin' babies"
Jan 09 16:39:53 <jdong> hmm
Jan 09 16:39:59 <ubuntugeek> hmm yeah..
Jan 09 16:40:04 <jdong> the site doesn't load
Jan 09 16:40:06 <ubuntugeek> ok lets move on
Jan 09 16:40:09 <ubuntugeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...86&postcount=5
Jan 09 16:40:13 <ubuntugeek> dillbertdabomb
Jan 09 16:40:30 <PriceChild> didn't follow instructions on format of application :P
Jan 09 16:40:36 <forumsmatthew> asks to be a member, he didn't apply for leadership
Jan 09 16:40:43 <jdong> PriceChild: I was gonna say : )
Jan 09 16:40:46 <forumsmatthew> "I would like to be a team member for the beginner section."
Jan 09 16:40:53 <PriceChild> ah ok
Jan 09 16:40:54 <ubuntugeek> dillbert is just wanted to be a team member soo
Jan 09 16:40:55 <PriceChild> shall we move on
Jan 09 16:41:10 <jdong> yes, doesn't seem like leader is the role he wanted
Jan 09 16:41:11 <ubuntugeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...40&postcount=6
Jan 09 16:41:14 <ubuntugeek> raqball
Jan 09 16:41:20 <ubuntugeek> unanswered posts area
Jan 09 16:41:36 <forumsmatthew> has serious potential
Jan 09 16:41:53 <jdong> I like his dedication to unanswered posts
Jan 09 16:42:06 <ubuntugeek> Ok just wants to be a team member as well
Jan 09 16:42:13 <forumsmatthew> looking through his posts now...
Jan 09 16:42:22 <ubuntugeek> at least thats how i took his answer to the 1. question
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Jan 09 16:42:35 <forumsmatthew> they don't really match his application statements
Jan 09 16:42:38 <jdong> ubuntugeek: it seems like he's ok with being either
Jan 09 16:42:44 <ubuntugeek> or is he saying he wants to be a team leader and wants to be on a team?
Jan 09 16:42:46 <ubuntugeek> ok
Jan 09 16:42:47 <forumsmatthew> he didn't lie, he has just been more active other ways
Jan 09 16:42:57 <jdong> ubuntugeek: all the credentials he gave seem to be leadership-oriented
Jan 09 16:43:06 <forumsmatthew> mainly cafe since early November
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Jan 09 16:43:31 <ubuntugeek> good candidate for the answered team leader then?
Jan 09 16:43:38 <PriceChild> let put him on the list? : )
Jan 09 16:43:49 <jdong> wait a sec please
Jan 09 16:43:56 * jdong still looking through the posts
Jan 09 16:43:59 <PriceChild> hehe : )
Jan 09 16:44:14 <jdong> seeing a lot of chatter and not much support
Jan 09 16:44:18 <PriceChild> doesn't seem to be the most helpful
Jan 09 16:44:19 <PriceChild> yeah
Jan 09 16:44:20 <jdong> currently digging to nov 1st
Jan 09 16:44:22 <ubuntugeek> jdong agreed
Jan 09 16:44:25 <forumsmatthew> @jdong agreed
Jan 09 16:44:33 <Bonzodog> Can I just a very slightly in-a-roundabout-way related question?
Jan 09 16:44:39 <Bonzodog> +ask
Jan 09 16:44:51 <ubuntugeek> lets put him on and move on we can come back to a more detailed approach after we get the list
Jan 09 16:44:54 <PriceChild> !ask|Bonzodog
Jan 09 16:45:02 <jdong> yeah
Jan 09 16:45:09 <PriceChild> no ubotu :P
Jan 09 16:45:11 <Bonzodog> Is there any plans to ressurect a team related to the UDSF?
Jan 09 16:45:23 <jdong> Bonzodog: please put that on the agenda if you want it discussed
Jan 09 16:45:30 <jdong> it really isn't related : )
Jan 09 16:45:35 <jdong> even in the most roundabout ways
Jan 09 16:45:45 <PriceChild> David Corrales http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...18&postcount=7 also seems to be mainly asking to be a member
Jan 09 16:46:00 <forumsmatthew> agreed
Jan 09 16:46:02 <ubuntugeek> agreed
Jan 09 16:46:10 <jdong> k, skip
Jan 09 16:46:14 <jdong> let's process the leaders first
Jan 09 16:46:21 <ubuntugeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...11&postcount=8
Jan 09 16:46:24 <PriceChild> rekahsoft http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...11&postcount=8
Jan 09 16:46:57 <jdong> his application looks very nice
Jan 09 16:46:57 <PriceChild> not many posts in abs beginners...
Jan 09 16:47:10 <PriceChild> mostly in gaming and leisure / programming
Jan 09 16:47:11 <ubuntugeek> mostly posts in gaming it appears
Jan 09 16:47:15 <jdong> a young one, too
Jan 09 16:47:40 <PriceChild> not the youngest on the list : )
Jan 09 16:48:06 <ubuntugeek> i think the people applying for a position need to be pretty active in the area
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Jan 09 16:48:15 <forumsmatthew> that would seem appropriate
Jan 09 16:48:17 <ubuntugeek> so.. with that said lets move on to the next one
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Jan 09 16:48:27 <ubuntugeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...01&postcount=9
Jan 09 16:48:34 * jdong answers his doom question anyway : )
Jan 09 16:48:41 <ubuntugeek> djsroknrol
Jan 09 16:48:54 <ubuntugeek> unanswered or beginners area
Jan 09 16:49:05 <PriceChild> not very active... and latest are chatty
Jan 09 16:49:24 <PriceChild> well not the least active though
Jan 09 16:49:25 <ubuntugeek> agreed
Jan 09 16:49:28 <jdong> so far I'm not seeing anyone near Lord Illian's activity level
Jan 09 16:49:32 <PriceChild> agreed
Jan 09 16:49:39 <forumsmatthew> jdong: agreed
Jan 09 16:49:50 <PriceChild> whoa!!!
Jan 09 16:49:55 <PriceChild> Vorian_, has a big point to make
Jan 09 16:50:03 <ubuntugeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...3&postcount=10
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Jan 09 16:50:05 * PriceChild pushes Vorian_ onto the stage
Jan 09 16:50:08 <ubuntugeek> blendmaster
Jan 09 16:50:18 <Vorian_> djsroknrol is a mod on mod free
Jan 09 16:50:22 <ubuntugeek> beginner forums team
Jan 09 16:50:35 <jdong> Vorian_: good point, thanks for bringing it up
Jan 09 16:50:40 <forumsmatthew> @Vorian_ hmm
Jan 09 16:50:51 <jdong> though we need to investigate more into that
Jan 09 16:50:57 <ubuntugeek> most of his posts are in the beginners area
Jan 09 16:51:06 <jdong> I'd rather we not be labeling anyone by their out-of-forums affiliations
Jan 09 16:51:39 <ubuntugeek> anyone have thoughts on blendmaster?
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Jan 09 16:51:44 <jdong> blendmaster, yet another member seeker
Jan 09 16:51:53 <ubuntugeek> ah yes
Jan 09 16:51:53 <PriceChild> "maybe" not all his posts are the most helpful
Jan 09 16:52:18 <ubuntugeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...8&postcount=11
Jan 09 16:52:18 <jdong> (wow the forums must really hate how much we're using find all posts right now )
Jan 09 16:52:22 <ubuntugeek> lyceum
Jan 09 16:52:30 <ubuntugeek> unaswered team
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Jan 09 16:52:56 <PriceChild> wb matthew5
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Jan 09 16:53:18 <forumsmatthew> isp issues
Jan 09 16:53:18 <jdong> ubuntugeek: where'd you get unanswered team from?
Jan 09 16:53:24 <PriceChild> He seems very chatty
Jan 09 16:53:25 <Vorian_> he is active in the beginners area
Jan 09 16:53:34 <PriceChild> jdong, he says active and unanswered at hte bottom of psot
Jan 09 16:53:36 <ubuntugeek> "I have answered questions I know as I find them. If I am not selected, I would like to join the team that helps new users or the unanswered posts. I am applying here for team-leader of either."
Jan 09 16:53:42 <jdong> oh
Jan 09 16:53:48 <jdong> so beginners or unanswered
Jan 09 16:54:07 * jdong braces for his next suggestion
Jan 09 16:54:10 <ubuntugeek> unaswered looks good.. he seems pretty active i think
Jan 09 16:54:18 <forumsmatthew> Is he still active?
Jan 09 16:54:22 <jdong> let's quickly find all the leader-candidates by a high-bean count....
Jan 09 16:54:23 <forumsmatthew> last post is see is from November
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Jan 09 16:54:33 <jdong> I'm seeing a lot of member applications so far
Jan 09 16:55:06 <ubuntugeek> jdong yeah
Jan 09 16:55:09 <jdong> Lord Illian is a good benchmark (in my mind) of leadership candidacy
Jan 09 16:55:11 <PriceChild> kuja?
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Jan 09 16:55:27 <forumsmatthew> jdong: agreed
Jan 09 16:55:50 <ubuntugeek> Lord Illian looks good yeah
Jan 09 16:55:58 <PriceChild> hehe
Jan 09 16:56:03 <jdong> kuja seems to do a lot of 64-bit work
Jan 09 16:56:05 <PriceChild> why isn't everyone like Lord Illian
Jan 09 16:56:08 <PriceChild> jdong, yeah
Jan 09 16:56:13 <PriceChild> not sure where else though]
Jan 09 16:56:15 <jdong> but he's chatty too
Jan 09 16:56:34 <jdong> I don't see much else
Jan 09 16:56:44 <ubuntugeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...9&postcount=19
Jan 09 16:56:55 <ubuntugeek> unaswered team
Jan 09 16:57:02 <ubuntugeek> jeesh i wish i could spell today lol
Jan 09 16:57:04 <jdong> we should've added "give 5 examples of posts you made that best represent your identity at the forums"
Jan 09 16:57:25 <PriceChild> I remember mr jacobmp92 from somewhere
Jan 09 16:57:29 <jdong> ubuntugeek: I'm not doing much better; this room is 50 degrees and I'm frezing my fingers off
Jan 09 16:58:08 <Vorian_> ubuntugeek: He has been a very valuable member of our loco team
Jan 09 16:58:10 <PriceChild> jacobmp92 seems quite good
Jan 09 16:58:11 * jdong sprays frozen blob of dust-off at the thermostat
Jan 09 16:58:19 <Vorian_> PriceChild: agreed
Jan 09 16:58:20 <forumsmatthew> he has several very helpful posts
Jan 09 16:58:27 <ubuntugeek> agreed ok i'll add him to my list
Jan 09 16:58:50 <ubuntugeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...0&postcount=20
Jan 09 16:58:53 <ubuntugeek> mssever
Jan 09 16:58:56 <ubuntugeek> unanswered posts
Jan 09 16:59:01 <PriceChild> active
Jan 09 16:59:18 <jdong> one of the most elegantly organized applications to this point
Jan 09 16:59:20 <forumsmatthew> application is very promising
Jan 09 16:59:25 <forumsmatthew> I'm off to review post
Jan 09 16:59:28 <forumsmatthew> posts
Jan 09 16:59:30 <PriceChild> helpful
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Jan 09 16:59:53 <jdong> helpful indeed
Jan 09 16:59:59 <jdong> most of his posts are help oriented
Jan 09 17:00:02 <forumsmatthew> I give him high marks
Jan 09 17:00:12 <ubuntugeek> ok i'll add him to the list
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Jan 09 17:00:16 <PriceChild> seems to have dropped off this past month from his "4 posts a day"
Jan 09 17:00:19 <jdong> yes, high regards to this guy
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Jan 09 17:00:37 <ubuntugeek> next
Jan 09 17:00:37 <ubuntugeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...5&postcount=21
Jan 09 17:00:39 <ubuntugeek> apjone
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Jan 09 17:00:44 <ubuntugeek> beginner or hardware
Jan 09 17:00:46 <jdong> PriceChild: given the december season, I can understand
Jan 09 17:01:02 <PriceChild> jdong, yeah
Jan 09 17:01:09 <Vorian_> haven't had many hardware candidates...
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Jan 09 17:01:25 <ubuntugeek> seems like a good canidate for hardware
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Jan 09 17:01:29 <PriceChild> yeah
Jan 09 17:01:32 <PriceChild> agreed ubijtsa2
Jan 09 17:01:33 <PriceChild> argh
Jan 09 17:01:39 <PriceChild> annying autocomplete
Jan 09 17:01:40 * jdong digs thru posts
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Jan 09 17:01:58 <forumsmatthew> hardware...
Jan 09 17:02:02 <PriceChild> Nothing much in the hardware forum.... but most posts revolving around hardware
Jan 09 17:02:12 <forumsmatthew> PC yep
Jan 09 17:02:12 <jdong> he helps a lot
Jan 09 17:02:25 <jdong> answers a lot of beginner or driver related questions
Jan 09 17:02:29 <ubuntugeek> k, added to the list
Jan 09 17:02:39 <ubuntugeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...6&postcount=22
Jan 09 17:02:43 <ubuntugeek> klaidas
Jan 09 17:02:47 <ubuntugeek> beginner
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Jan 09 17:02:58 * PriceChild notices Kladias isn't online in irc - grr lol
Jan 09 17:03:14 <jdong> he seems active
Jan 09 17:03:25 <PriceChild> and sustained
Jan 09 17:03:47 <jdong> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...43#post1985143
Jan 09 17:03:49 <jdong> :-/
Jan 09 17:04:01 <jdong> interesting statement
Jan 09 17:04:10 <PriceChild> hmmm not the most helpful posts
Jan 09 17:04:18 <ubuntugeek> yeah
Jan 09 17:04:40 <forumsmatthew> we have better candidates
Jan 09 17:04:40 <ubuntugeek> ok lets move on
Jan 09 17:04:41 <ubuntugeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...5&postcount=24
Jan 09 17:04:45 <ubuntugeek> wayward
Jan 09 17:04:48 <ubuntugeek> unanswered posts
Jan 09 17:05:19 <ubuntugeek> only has 9 posts
Jan 09 17:05:24 <jdong> wow
Jan 09 17:05:24 <PriceChild> impressive application but only 9 posts
Jan 09 17:05:28 <ubuntugeek> ok next
Jan 09 17:05:29 <ubuntugeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...5&postcount=26
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Jan 09 17:05:37 <ubuntugeek> bodhi.zazen
Jan 09 17:05:39 <ubuntugeek> beginner
Jan 09 17:05:44 <ubuntugeek> begineer
Jan 09 17:05:53 <ubuntugeek> bah
Jan 09 17:05:54 <ubuntugeek> lol
Jan 09 17:05:56 <PriceChild> why does he have to take on Lord Illian : )
Jan 09 17:06:08 <forumsmatthew> he's been quite impressive for some time
Jan 09 17:06:16 <ubuntugeek> matthew i agree
Jan 09 17:06:18 <PriceChild> yup
Jan 09 17:06:29 <Vorian_> lord illian can do hardware... right?
Jan 09 17:06:31 <PriceChild> hehe he gave 5 helpeful contributions : )
Jan 09 17:06:33 <forumsmatthew> note: "Please consider my application for a position with the Beginner Area Team."
Jan 09 17:06:35 <jdong> I like his application
Jan 09 17:06:45 <ubuntugeek> me too adding him to the list
Jan 09 17:06:46 <jdong> PriceChild: it's beter than the 0 I've seen so far
Jan 09 17:07:06 <jdong> PriceChild: plus I think I haven't written more than 5 howtos either : )
Jan 09 17:07:10 <ubuntugeek> lastly
Jan 09 17:07:12 <ubuntugeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...7&postcount=27
Jan 09 17:07:15 <ubuntugeek> saphira
Jan 09 17:07:26 <PriceChild> not active enough?
Jan 09 17:07:34 <ubuntugeek> not sure which team either
Jan 09 17:07:38 <forumsmatthew> PC: that's my thought
Jan 09 17:07:40 <jdong> short paragraph
Jan 09 17:07:49 <jdong> liberal interpretation of short paragraph : )
Jan 09 17:07:55 <Vorian_> lol
Jan 09 17:08:24 <jdong> he seems to have his way of linnking to gwos for everything
Jan 09 17:08:29 <jdong> let's look through gwos
Jan 09 17:08:32 * PriceChild runs off for a second
Jan 09 17:08:33 <jdong> and measure his contribution level there
Jan 09 17:08:56 <jdong> I have a feeling his work might be concentrated there
Jan 09 17:09:07 <jdong> grr, doesn't load
Jan 09 17:09:08 <jdong> his loss
Jan 09 17:09:11 <jdong> NEXT : )
Jan 09 17:09:17 <ubuntugeek> OK so
Jan 09 17:09:22 <ubuntugeek> these are the canidates
Jan 09 17:09:23 <ubuntugeek> beginners
Jan 09 17:09:23 <ubuntugeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...5&postcount=26 - bodhi.zazen
Jan 09 17:09:23 <ubuntugeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...47&postcount=3 - Lord Illidan
Jan 09 17:09:24 <ubuntugeek> hardware
Jan 09 17:09:24 <ubuntugeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...5&postcount=21 - apjone
Jan 09 17:09:24 <ubuntugeek> Unanswered
Jan 09 17:09:26 <ubuntugeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...9&postcount=19 - jacobmp92
Jan 09 17:09:28 <ubuntugeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...0&postcount=20 - mssever
Jan 09 17:09:41 <jdong> good
Jan 09 17:09:59 <jdong> I think to proceed we'll need to be able to speak with these people
Jan 09 17:10:05 <ubuntugeek> The next step, lets schedule the finalization for the next meeting. This way we can give them time to bring examples along with them.
Jan 09 17:10:12 <jdong> either by IRC, interview in forum thread.... etc
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Jan 09 17:10:35 <PriceChild> wb again matthew5
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Jan 09 17:10:56 <ubuntugeek> The next meeting we can finalize those canidates and make sure they come to the meeting prepared with stuff to back themselves up
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Jan 09 17:11:04 <jdong> yes
Jan 09 17:11:05 <ubuntugeek> sound good?
Jan 09 17:11:06 <ubuntugeek> ok
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Jan 09 17:11:24 <jdong> poor forumsmatthew : )
Jan 09 17:11:47 <ubuntugeek> at the next meeting lets do that process first, then afterwards discuss the implementation of the teams
Jan 09 17:11:54 <ubuntugeek> when the new team leaders are on board
Jan 09 17:11:57 <jdong> yes
Jan 09 17:11:57 <PriceChild> agreed : )
Jan 09 17:12:00 <ubuntugeek> k
Jan 09 17:12:04 <ubuntugeek> Next
Jan 09 17:12:05 <jdong> I'd like to see team leaders involved in picking out their team
Jan 09 17:12:10 <ubuntugeek> agreed
Jan 09 17:12:24 <ubuntugeek> team leaders will be able to approve people who apply to their team via the forums user cp
Jan 09 17:12:32 <ubuntugeek> Forum Secretary Position
Jan 09 17:12:36 <ubuntugeek> two canidates
Jan 09 17:12:47 <ubuntugeek> vorian and pricechild
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Jan 09 17:12:56 * Vorian_ waves
Jan 09 17:13:00 <ubuntugeek> waves
Jan 09 17:13:05 <forumsmatthew> both are good candidates
Jan 09 17:13:13 <ubuntugeek> both are good candidates
Jan 09 17:13:20 <forumsmatthew> jinx
Jan 09 17:13:27 <PriceChild> hehe... now ubuntugeek can't talk :P
Jan 09 17:13:28 <ubuntugeek> lol
Jan 09 17:13:36 <jdong> ubuntugeek ubuntugeek ubuntugeek
Jan 09 17:13:39 <jdong> or something like that : )
Jan 09 17:13:41 <ubuntugeek> ok so..
Jan 09 17:14:05 <forumsmatthew> how about something like
Jan 09 17:14:11 <jdong> battle to the death?
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Jan 09 17:14:13 <forumsmatthew> tell us why to choose you
Jan 09 17:14:14 <jdong> ok, works for me
Jan 09 17:14:15 <jdong> : )
Jan 09 17:14:17 <forumsmatthew> without saying anything bad
Jan 09 17:14:19 <ubuntugeek> yep sounds good
Jan 09 17:14:20 <forumsmatthew> about the other candidate
Jan 09 17:14:24 <ubuntugeek> Vorian go for it
Jan 09 17:14:48 <Vorian_> well
Jan 09 17:15:12 <Vorian_> Like i said in my post
Jan 09 17:15:20 <PriceChild> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=323554
Jan 09 17:15:29 <Vorian_> I have gained alot from UF, and I appreciate all that I have gained
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Jan 09 17:15:46 <Vorian_> I want to give back in what ever way I can...
Jan 09 17:16:18 <Vorian_> I am a manager by profession, and this kind of work is right up my alley
Jan 09 17:16:23 <Vorian_> PLUS
Jan 09 17:16:35 <Vorian_> I love Ubuntu Forums : )
Jan 09 17:16:38 <ubuntugeek> ; )
Jan 09 17:16:40 <jdong> Vorian_: does your schedule allow you to regularly attend Forum Council meetings?
Jan 09 17:16:51 <Vorian_> I make my own schedule
Jan 09 17:16:57 <jdong> ah, ideal : )
Jan 09 17:16:59 <Vorian_> : )
Jan 09 17:17:05 <ubuntugeek> our goal is the first tuesday of every month at 16:00 utc
Jan 09 17:17:09 <ubuntugeek> ok great
Jan 09 17:17:14 <ubuntugeek> Pricechild?
Jan 09 17:17:16 <ubuntugeek> your up
Jan 09 17:17:17 <PriceChild> Vorian_, has also got a lot of experience with helping lead the Ohio LoCo
Jan 09 17:17:21 <PriceChild> When people ask me why I spend time hepling out on these forums, I normally tell them that because of the Ubuntu community, I have a completely free and feature rich computer sitting infront of me, but its more than that. Despite the reputation ubuntuforums.org has amongst a large majority of the core Ubuntu community, I'm extremely proud to have been "educated" here, and hope to give this back. Being a mod, and hopefully with this
Jan 09 17:17:21 <PriceChild> position I want to help take ubuntuforums.org to the core group, further integration is only a good thing. Towards this aim, I'm part of the forum ambassadors project, and am opping a couple more channels on irc.
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Jan 09 17:17:35 * PriceChild should have corrected spelling mistakes :P
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Jan 09 17:17:40 <ubuntugeek> : )
Jan 09 17:17:42 * matthew5 is now known as forumsmatthew
Jan 09 17:17:46 <jdong> look who pre-authored his speech : )
Jan 09 17:17:54 <forumsmatthew> oh, man. I missed it
Jan 09 17:18:01 * PriceChild gives it to forumsmatthew
Jan 09 17:18:03 <Vorian_> cut and paste....
Jan 09 17:18:06 * forumsmatthew kicks his isp
Jan 09 17:18:08 <Vorian_> er*lol
Jan 09 17:18:12 * jdong examines it with added scrutiny : )
Jan 09 17:18:12 <forumsmatthew> thanks, PriceChild
Jan 09 17:18:18 <ubuntugeek> guys i got a work meeting in 5.. shoot..
Jan 09 17:18:38 <ubuntugeek> jodng? thoughts
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Jan 09 17:18:50 <jdong> hmm
Jan 09 17:19:03 * PriceChild posts vorian's to matthew also
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Jan 09 17:19:44 <jdong> both of you are well qualified for the job
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Jan 09 17:20:06 <PriceChild> lol he's gone again...
Jan 09 17:20:12 <PriceChild> poor matthew
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Jan 09 17:20:40 <Vorian_> PriceChild: arm wrestle?
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Jan 09 17:21:51 <ubuntugeek> I think the fairest route will be to give vorian a +1. He isn't a staff member (pricey already has fun) and this will allow for some new blood to get on the team.
Jan 09 17:22:19 * Vorian_ does a backflip
Jan 09 17:22:22 <jdong> +1, ubuntugeek; in addition a non-staff secretary has the added benefit of neutrality
Jan 09 17:22:32 <PriceChild> woo go Vorian_ : )
Jan 09 17:22:37 <forumsmatthew> He's also been around for a long time and has a good feel
Jan 09 17:22:40 * Vorian_ does a backflip again!
Jan 09 17:22:41 <forumsmatthew> +1
Jan 09 17:22:42 <ubuntugeek> great
Jan 09 17:22:45 <ubuntugeek> ok settled
Jan 09 17:22:49 <Vorian_> thanks guys!
Jan 09 17:23:00 <ubuntugeek> ok the last thing on the agenda
Jan 09 17:23:00 <frodon> congrats Vorian_ : )
Jan 09 17:23:04 <ubuntugeek> from Henrik
Jan 09 17:23:07 <ubuntugeek> henrik you here?
Jan 09 17:23:12 <Vorian_> frodon: thanks : )
Jan 09 17:23:13 <PriceChild> ping heno,
Jan 09 17:23:15 <jdong> heno: ping, you're up : )
Jan 09 17:23:17 <ubuntugeek> Cause i gotta fly in like 1 minutes
Jan 09 17:23:24 <heno> hi folks!
Jan 09 17:23:27 <ubuntugeek> jdong. matthew can you guys finish up?
Jan 09 17:23:32 <forumsmatthew> yes
Jan 09 17:23:33 <ubuntugeek> i'll post the notes later on
Jan 09 17:23:33 <jdong> ubuntugeek: sure thing
Jan 09 17:23:35 <ubuntugeek> thanks guys
Jan 09 17:23:43 <heno> Just introducing myself really
Jan 09 17:23:56 <jdong> heno: we'd love to hear
Jan 09 17:24:17 <heno> I'd love to see some involvement from forum mods/leaders in the ISO testing of Herd 2
Jan 09 17:24:28 <heno> starting this week
Jan 09 17:24:32 <heno> (we think)
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Jan 09 17:24:52 <jdong> ok
Jan 09 17:25:02 <jdong> what can we do to help with the ISO testing?
Jan 09 17:25:06 <heno> And generally you can contact me with development related items
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Jan 09 17:25:35 <heno> jdong: see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=201
Jan 09 17:25:53 <jdong> viewing it right now
Jan 09 17:25:56 <heno> I'd like help in collating the test data as it comes in
Jan 09 17:26:20 <heno> It might be just a few testers or a whole flood, who knows
Jan 09 17:26:44 <jdong> first we need to get the word out more prominently
Jan 09 17:26:54 <heno> I also look forward to working with the Forum Ambassadors when they get going
Jan 09 17:26:59 <jdong> I don't think many people will find or look for that particular subforum
Jan 09 17:27:04 <heno> jdong: agreed
Jan 09 17:27:18 <jdong> forumsmatthew, PriceChild, staff, how should we go about it?
Jan 09 17:27:29 <jdong> the forums will have a large base of users willing to conduct such testing
Jan 09 17:27:32 <heno> It needs to be promoted, but a slow, rolling start is OK too
Jan 09 17:27:56 <heno> so we can figure out the mechanics of collating the data
Jan 09 17:28:15 <heno> we need to be able to trust the results also ...
Jan 09 17:28:24 <jdong> I'm currently reading the testing howto
Jan 09 17:29:05 <jdong> does testing require the instalation of ubuntu from the candidate ISO's
Jan 09 17:29:11 <jdong> or just booting them up and making sure they function
Jan 09 17:29:20 <heno> usually, yes
Jan 09 17:29:33 <jdong> ok
Jan 09 17:29:45 <heno> testing the Live CD is just the simplest test
Jan 09 17:29:59 <jdong> heno: first, I think the testing how-to needs to be tweaked a bit to be simpler to understand
Jan 09 17:30:00 <heno> installation (in various ways) is important
Jan 09 17:30:09 <jdong> exactly what is being asked
Jan 09 17:30:30 <heno> the one in the forum, or wiki (or both)?
Jan 09 17:30:39 <jdong> the one in the forum
Jan 09 17:30:54 <jdong> make it more clear what you want users to do in order to be helpful
Jan 09 17:31:10 <jdong> i.e. "find a spare computer that you can do ubuntu installations on, etc"
Jan 09 17:31:12 <heno> btw, also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Current
Jan 09 17:31:23 <heno> the current test results page
Jan 09 17:31:39 <heno> right, I see. good point
Jan 09 17:31:59 <jdong> right now, the documents are pretty easy to understand for developers
Jan 09 17:32:03 <forumsmatthew> I think if you make it clear for people who are not used to doing this sort of thing
Jan 09 17:32:05 <forumsmatthew> how to do it
Jan 09 17:32:12 <forumsmatthew> you will get some good volunteers
Jan 09 17:32:16 <jdong> right
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Jan 09 17:32:19 <heno> ok, cool
Jan 09 17:32:23 <forumsmatthew> most forums members are new at this sort of thing
Jan 09 17:32:29 <forumsmatthew> but want to help
Jan 09 17:32:33 <forumsmatthew> they just don't know how
Jan 09 17:32:45 <forumsmatthew> give clear steps and I think they will come
Jan 09 17:32:49 <heno> great, ok. I'll fix that
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Jan 09 17:33:06 <jdong> we'd be glad to allow you to post a linking thread in a prominent area of the forum whenever testing is requested
Jan 09 17:33:18 <jdong> just right now, I think you'll get a lot of "huh?" and not much useful input
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Jan 09 17:33:44 <heno> is there any other place we should post a basic introduction
Jan 09 17:33:47 <jdong> an introduction paragraph explaining in easy to understand terms of what ISO testing is, why it needs to be done, and what it involves from the user
Jan 09 17:33:53 <heno> the Cafe or something?
Jan 09 17:33:56 <jdong> would be nice for the howto
Jan 09 17:34:08 <heno> right
Jan 09 17:34:09 <forumsmatthew> I agree: howto
Jan 09 17:34:16 <jdong> heno: revise the testing how-to to be an easy-to-understand document
Jan 09 17:34:27 <jdong> with a quick summary at the top so users can quickly determine if they want to do it or not
Jan 09 17:34:45 <heno> yep, ok
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Jan 09 17:34:57 <heno> thanks, good feedback
Jan 09 17:35:04 <jdong> then, every time a candidate CD rolls out, you can post a "ISO Testers Required" post in, say, the cafe, linking to that howto
Jan 09 17:35:39 <jdong> or perhaps such postings would be more appropriate in the Feisty Fawn development forum
Jan 09 17:36:07 <heno> Yes, I'm already a bit active there
Jan 09 17:36:10 <forumsmatthew> I think the development forum is the place where you are most likely to find people interested
Jan 09 17:36:18 <jdong> (http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=179)
Jan 09 17:36:36 <forumsmatthew> but an announement in the cafe with a link to the howto couldn't hurt
Jan 09 17:36:36 <heno> It also helps if they have some Linux familiarity too
Jan 09 17:36:40 <PriceChild> We really need to make the dev forum useful....
Jan 09 17:36:41 <jdong> right
Jan 09 17:36:53 <heno> so they can file good bug reports with logs, etc
Jan 09 17:37:00 <PriceChild> edgy's was great but feisty's been a bit pants... a project like this would help loads
Jan 09 17:37:03 <jdong> heno: you can request any level of experience you think appropriate, just make it clear what you expect from testers please
Jan 09 17:37:18 <jdong> I also noticed this from heno: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=333915
Jan 09 17:37:43 <jdong> some of that should probably be expanded or updated
Jan 09 17:37:57 <jdong> i.e. AFAIK new specs aren't gonna be accepted for feisty anymore
Jan 09 17:38:17 <jdong> bug reporting, triaging, and testing ISO images should be expanded a bit
Jan 09 17:38:19 <heno> or reworded, rather
Jan 09 17:38:24 <jdong> with more info on what would be helpful
Jan 09 17:38:30 <jdong> and in the case of triaging, how to go about it
Jan 09 17:38:39 <heno> (I posted it just yesterday)
Jan 09 17:39:11 <heno> the point is basically that there is little point suggesting new features now
Jan 09 17:39:28 <heno> but you can always start on a spec for Feisty+1
Jan 09 17:39:31 <jdong> right
Jan 09 17:39:36 <heno> I should make that more clear
Jan 09 17:39:37 <jdong> say that bluntly
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Jan 09 17:39:42 <heno> ok
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Jan 09 17:40:01 <jdong> also, reword the bug triaging stuff to be a bit more 'threatening'
Jan 09 17:40:08 <heno> IN THE FORUM THINGS NEED TO BE SAID BLUNTLY I get it
Jan 09 17:40:17 <jdong> more to the likening of "if you don't help us find these bugs, don't cry about the bugs on release day"
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Jan 09 17:40:24 <jdong>
Jan 09 17:40:25 <PriceChild> come on you're a dev heno, you should know that already
Jan 09 17:40:26 <heno> I've lived in England too long
Jan 09 17:40:52 <jdong> in any communicatons medium, people will skim and read with ADHD
Jan 09 17:40:58 <heno> yeah, need to sharpen my terseness a bit
Jan 09 17:41:07 <PriceChild> big bold red writing helps I find :P
Jan 09 17:41:13 <jdong> heno: at one point my backports guidelines were bumped to size-108 fonts
Jan 09 17:41:20 <jdong> because nobody would freakin listen
Jan 09 17:41:29 <heno> heh, ok
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Jan 09 17:42:32 <heno> right, I think that's all from me for now
Jan 09 17:42:36 <jdong> heno: and whenever you see the forums having unholy behavior (using the forums as a bug tracker, posting unsafe checkinstalled debs or other unsafe instructions, etc) please let us know
Jan 09 17:42:46 <jdong> we'd like to keep that sort of behavior controlled
Jan 09 17:42:52 <heno> I'll check in on these meetings regularly
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Jan 09 17:43:01 <jdong> don't be afraid to use the Report Posts button when you see stuff like that, heno
Jan 09 17:43:15 <heno> right, ok
Jan 09 17:43:32 <heno> I might apply for mod rights in the feisty forum too
Jan 09 17:43:48 <heno> (as I have in the ISO testing forum)
Jan 09 17:43:51 <jdong> heno: right now we have technical issues with vbulletin and making limited-mods
Jan 09 17:43:59 <jdong> heno: you say you have mod access in iso testing?
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Jan 09 17:44:04 <heno> yes
Jan 09 17:44:10 <jdong> ok, perhaps things have changed
Jan 09 17:44:18 <heno> and I've used it sucessfully
Jan 09 17:44:25 <jdong> I +1 your mod rights to feisty forum
Jan 09 17:44:35 <jdong> ubuntugeek will have to apply that when I talk to him later
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Jan 09 17:44:49 <jdong> ok, that takes care of the official agenda
Jan 09 17:44:50 <heno> right
Jan 09 17:44:54 <jdong> right?
Jan 09 17:45:11 <PriceChild> jdong, could we also maybe have the forum council subforum on the frontpage?
Jan 09 17:45:14 <vorian_> according to the wiki yes
Jan 09 17:45:23 <jdong> PriceChild: that's stuff you talk to Ryan about
Jan 09 17:45:26 <PriceChild> hehe ok
Jan 09 17:45:31 <jdong> I don't like touching that part of admincp
Jan 09 17:45:33 <PriceChild> will ask him later
Jan 09 17:45:34 <jdong> there is one more thing I'd like to take this time to discuss....
Jan 09 17:45:36 <PriceChild> jdong, what do you touch?
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Jan 09 17:46:07 <jdong> PriceChild: I spent a good portion of yesterday reading vbulletin documentation
Jan 09 17:46:13 <jdong> so I'm getting better darnit
Jan 09 17:46:20 <vorian_> lol
Jan 09 17:46:21 <PriceChild> he he i was only joking sorry
Jan 09 17:46:41 <jdong> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=330230
Jan 09 17:46:49 <jdong> we still have this unaddressed res center thread
Jan 09 17:47:04 <jdong> regarding where to draw the line with spamming
Jan 09 17:47:42 <vorian_> it is borderline....
Jan 09 17:48:04 <jdong> vorian_ indeed it is, but in this case the user seems to have good intentions at heart
Jan 09 17:48:12 <jdong> and from that thread, he is cooperative
Jan 09 17:48:17 <vorian_> agreed, I see no self promotion
Jan 09 17:48:28 <vorian_> it is for the betterment of ubuntu
Jan 09 17:49:01 <jdong> currently we have very weak/vague guidelines as to advertising vs spam
Jan 09 17:49:13 <jdong> "If a thread is spam it will be moved to the forum jail."
Jan 09 17:49:27 <vorian_> what about community market
Jan 09 17:49:29 <vorian_> ?
Jan 09 17:49:38 <PriceChild> I think its best we leave it to staff's discression
Jan 09 17:49:39 <jdong> vorian_ that says "please do not spam"
Jan 09 17:49:57 <jdong> aye, I think it should be left at the staff's discretion
Jan 09 17:50:09 * vorian_ sorry
Jan 09 17:50:23 <jdong> I was thinking obtaining staff approval too
Jan 09 17:50:43 <jdong> particularly low-bean-count people
Jan 09 17:51:11 <heno> Perhaps let him re-post a slightly altered version, say without the '$$$'
Jan 09 17:51:38 <heno> at some clause about good taste to border-line spam case decisions
Jan 09 17:51:50 <heno> add, rather
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Jan 09 17:51:59 <jdong> right
Jan 09 17:52:11 <jdong> I'm all for allowing tousimis to continue with his service
Jan 09 17:53:55 <PriceChild> I'm happy with him also
Jan 09 17:54:46 <jdong> so far I'm gonna reply to him that (1) He may continue promoting/developing/offering his service (2) Spam vs not spam decisions will be made on a per-case basis at the discretion of the staff member handling the thread (3) If you have low-bean count it's helpful to first clear it by PM'ing an administrator or staff member
Jan 09 17:54:50 <jdong> any objections?
Jan 09 17:55:05 <PriceChild> in addition to no. 1
Jan 09 17:55:17 <PriceChild> the promoting in the appropriate subforum
Jan 09 17:55:24 <PriceChild> and signature
Jan 09 17:55:31 <jdong> (marketplace?)
Jan 09 17:55:34 <PriceChild> yup
Jan 09 17:56:54 <jdong> what currently happens when a user is banned?
Jan 09 17:56:58 <jdong> are they unable to log in?
Jan 09 17:57:19 <PriceChild> depends on the type of ban?
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Jan 09 17:57:43 <jdong> spam infractions?
Jan 09 17:57:55 <PriceChild> that's just a ban on the name
Jan 09 17:57:58 <jdong> the OP seems to state that he couldn't read his PM's?
Jan 09 17:58:04 <PriceChild> yeah
Jan 09 17:58:04 <jdong> once he was banned
Jan 09 17:58:09 <jdong> heh
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Jan 09 17:58:17 <PriceChild> when you log in because of spam infraction you can't see aything
Jan 09 17:58:30 <jdong> can you see your infraction notices
Jan 09 17:58:35 <PriceChild> jdong, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=332163
Jan 09 17:58:37 <PriceChild> Nope
Jan 09 17:58:39 <jdong> and can you contact staff members for a rebuttal?
Jan 09 17:58:43 <PriceChild> vorian_, sorry but you can't see that link
Jan 09 17:58:44 <PriceChild> No
Jan 09 17:58:47 <jdong> uhm, lovely
Jan 09 17:58:55 <PriceChild> jdong, my issues with it were outlined int hat thread
Jan 09 17:58:59 <vorian_> PriceChild:
Jan 09 17:59:35 <jdong> ok
Jan 09 17:59:56 <jdong> I think we need to refine the behavior of infraction-based bans
Jan 09 18:00:02 <PriceChild> uip
Jan 09 18:00:05 <jdong> but at a later meeting when all staff members are present
Jan 09 18:00:10 <jdong> it simply doesn't make sense at the moment
Jan 09 18:00:13 <PriceChild> jdong, arg rav tux has changed his avatar again lol :P
Jan 09 18:00:34 <vorian_> hehe
Jan 09 18:01:03 <PriceChild> ubuntugeek mentioned making another meeting within a week or two because of the approval of matthew and mikeb
Jan 09 18:01:09 <PriceChild> we can sort things out then
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Jan 09 18:02:41 <PriceChild> So....
Jan 09 18:02:55 * jdong still typing out a flowery version of what he said
Jan 09 18:03:24 <vorian_> jdong: Does this council have a launchpad entry?
Jan 09 18:03:36 <jdong> vorian_: err i dont know
Jan 09 18:03:37 <jdong> lol
Jan 09 18:03:42 <vorian_> hehe
Jan 09 18:03:48 <jdong> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...41#post1989441 , my response
Jan 09 18:04:42 <PriceChild> looks good
Jan 09 18:04:48 <jdong> ok, anything further?
Jan 09 18:04:49 <PriceChild> vorian_, not yet no
Jan 09 18:04:54 <PriceChild> Im' happy
Jan 09 18:04:55 <jdong> I'd like to play starcraft on my large screen
Jan 09 18:05:02 <vorian_> jd
Jan 09 18:05:05 <PriceChild> I'll post logs to the subforum and wiki
Jan 09 18:05:26 <jdong> ok, PriceChild
Jan 09 18:05:32 <jdong> and vorian_ gets to have fun too
Jan 09 18:05:41 <PriceChild> seen as vorian_ got d/c and missed out bits :P
Jan 09 18:05:55 <jdong> yep
Jan 09 18:05:58 <jdong> ok, anything futher?
Jan 09 18:06:02 <vorian_> PriceChild: thanks
Jan 09 18:06:05 <jdong> can I bang the hammer thingie?
Jan 09 18:06:15 * vorian_ stands in applause!
Jan 09 18:06:22 * jdong bangs hammer
Jan 09 18:06:32 <jdong> meeting is over, thanks to those who showed up and contributed
Jan 09 18:06:46 <vorian_> thanks everyone!
Jan 09 18:06:51 <jdong> next meeting scheduled.... err... whenever
Jan 09 18:07:02 <vorian_> that will be a fun one
Jan 09 18:07:04 <jdong> (we will likely have a follow-up meeting)
Jan 09 18:07:09 <PriceChild> 13th of february
Jan 09 18:07:14 <PriceChild> although there'll be one inbetween
Jan 09 18:07:18 <jdong> PriceChild: yeah
Jan 09 18:07:23 <jdong> anyway
Jan 09 18:07:28 <jdong> we can hammer out the agendas later
Jan 09 18:07:46 <jdong> alright, starcraft time
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