Ubuntu Ireland SFD2008 IRC Meeting, starting at 9pm, 27th July 2008

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{{{Mean-Machine> ok, let's start * Mean-Machine has changed the topic to: SFD 2008 IRC Meeting - in progress! * Glenn is now known as Guest24069 <Mean-Machine> If you're here for the SFD 2008 meeting, please type PRESENT <czajkowski> PRESENT <RohitThakral> PRESENT <bonglord> present <Hi-Jack> PRESENT * ChanServ removes channel operator status from Mean-Machine <Mean-Machine> PRESENT <Mean-Machine> not bad :P <Mean-Machine> let's start with the agenda <Mean-Machine> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/SFD2008 <Guest24069> PRESENT <Mean-Machine> Ubuntu, Edubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu demo machines (MeanMachine) <RohitThakral> Sorry before <RohitThakral> that <RohitThakral> How many people are there in office <RohitThakral> i mean physically at the meeting <RohitThakral> Just so that we know * Guest24069 is now known as Glenn <Mean-Machine> this meeting is online <RohitThakral> oh sorry * Glenn is now known as Guest78234 <Mean-Machine> Ubuntu, Edubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu demo machines (MeanMachine) <RohitThakral> I thought there are people in Camara Office as well <Mean-Machine> ok, should I explain demo machines idea? <RohitThakral> yes <czajkowski> sure, maybe some folks may not know. <RohitThakral> please <bonglord> that would be great <Mean-Machine> we'll have PCs on-site with ubuntu etc. pre-installed <Mean-Machine> everyone will be able to try it out <RohitThakral> I can provide a couple <Mean-Machine> and also ask questions <Mean-Machine> the PCs will be mostly provided by Camara <Mean-Machine> if you can provide a higher spec machine for the event, most welcome <Mean-Machine> for example to show compiz etc <RohitThakral> What is Higher Spec?? <czajkowski> cool, spoke to a few people and they thought it was a good idea for Edubuntu to be shown as they would like to show kids and encourage them <RohitThakral> Yeah can arrange that <RohitThakral> Also my laptop is available as well <Mean-Machine> higher spec will be defined as soon as we know what PCs we'll get from Camara <RohitThakral> I would suggest some special configurations as well. Like Ubuntu on Memory Stick * Guest78234 is now known as GDStrong <Mean-Machine> we'll also try to have a few Edubuntu machines on-site <czajkowski> ok <RohitThakral> Do we know how many machines can we get from Camara <Mean-Machine> Id say as many as we need <RohitThakral> hmmm <RohitThakral> So it will be good to have every flavour available <Hi-Jack> Is this for a single event? Or will these machines be on display for longer? <Mean-Machine> originaly it's meant to be for the SFD event <czajkowski> Just for the event... <czajkowski> but maybe we could look at having one or two set up for future in the drop in centre <czajkowski> if it was possible to keep them. <czajkowski> ? <Mean-Machine> we'll discuss this after the event <czajkowski> ok. <Mean-Machine> any other questions regarding demo machines? <czajkowski> nope. <Mean-Machine> moving on... <Mean-Machine> LAN games/competitions using free games like Nexuiz etc. Ubuntu/Ubuntu-ie gear as prizes (ankhi) <Mean-Machine> ankhi isn't present, but we wanted to leave this one out anyways, didn't we? <czajkowski> that would be kinda cool, and again a chance to get people involved in using them. <RohitThakral> I would suggest to keep it in as well <Mean-Machine> gaming = higher spec machines <czajkowski> I think it would encourage interaction. * judith_h (n=ju@89.100.152.4) has joined #Ubuntu-ie <Mean-Machine> ok, what games then? <czajkowski> well they dont have to be massive big high end games. <Mean-Machine> who'll help out setting it up? <czajkowski> I mean could be some simple ones out there. <judith_h> hiya <RohitThakral> We all.............. I guess <czajkowski> aye <Mean-Machine> fine by me <Mean-Machine> this has to be well organized though <RohitThakral> MM provide me with the spec which will be good for such a machine and I'll try and arrange <RohitThakral> may be after the meeting <Mean-Machine> RohitThakral, no problemo! <Mean-Machine> If you want to attract the serious (business, commercial, educational, etc) users, you may have to treat games, etc, as merely ancillary events/attractions (Mjk4) <RohitThakral> For business people <RohitThakral> Mail Servers??? <RohitThakral> examples of Ubuntu in MS domains <Mean-Machine> is Mjk4 present? <Mean-Machine> Regular, frequent, brief, and (hopefully) free! references to SFD2008 in the media, starting immediately (Mjk4). <Mean-Machine> this is a great idea! <RohitThakral> any thoughts on my suggestion??? <RohitThakral> or any other suggestions for the business people? <Mean-Machine> RT, I don't think we'll have much business people there <RohitThakral> well then well have to bring them there <RohitThakral> Its all about advertisement <RohitThakral> marketing <Mean-Machine> I think we should concentrate on kids and avg user <Mean-Machine> I don't think we're capable of setting up such a wide event, just yet <czajkowski> If you think about it, to get kids along you need paretns, so if we aim it at a family day/education and fun. you'll get folks along. Obviously getting business and people in business to come along would be great. <RohitThakral> well but if there is no business no one is going to support <czajkowski> Av user is the main key area to focus on for this event. at least for this year <RohitThakral> Its the thinking....... MM if we decide we can <RohitThakral> Until you are there with your expertise <czajkowski> Lets not get ahead of ourselves. Aim for a good event this year <Mean-Machine> czajkowski is right <czajkowski> and one to establish the LoCo and we can aim higher next year <RohitThakral> and czajkowski all those parents are either working in IT or have their own business <RohitThakral> DId you see the IOTC 2008 <czajkowski> RohitThakral: I was an orgnaiser of the IOTC <Mean-Machine> let's organize 1 small but good and professional event <czajkowski> so yes I saw a lot of it <Mean-Machine> RT, this is not a conference <Hi-Jack> I wonder if a SFD day event is the right event for business... It is on a Saturday first of all. If a person wants to attract business one should invite people to a conference center with presentations etc. Or be present at computer expos where business go to look at products. <Mean-Machine> SFD is a celebration of Free Software <czajkowski> Hi-Jack: exactly <czajkowski> we can have a few non pressure light talks <czajkowski> but the aim of the day is nformation and celebration <czajkowski> not CHANGE TO OPENSOURCE!! WE ARE RIGHT attidude <czajkowski> .c <Mean-Machine> exactly! <RohitThakral> ACK.... <RohitThakral> if this is what everyone thinks * GDStrong has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") <Mean-Machine> Tutorial sessions for beginners, both in general Ubuntu usage but also in FOSS like GIMP etc. (BOZG) * GDStrong (i=53515203@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4f28e43c3a6be08c) has joined #ubuntu-ie <Hi-Jack> If we attract people who have not used Ubuntu before it would be useful to have a demonstration of how to install Ubuntu or how to set up a dual boot system. <Mean-Machine> fair play <czajkowski> good idea <Mean-Machine> who would like to volunteer to do this presentation? <Mean-Machine> okay, maybe it's too soon ;-] <RohitThakral> I don't have a pc to take snapshots <RohitThakral> I can put them in ppt <Mean-Machine> hmm... how about a live install show, rather than slides with screenshots? <RohitThakral> we'll need many machines <RohitThakral> may be slot in 3 different installs <RohitThakral> 3 machines <RohitThakral> 3 time during the day <Mean-Machine> why so many? <RohitThakral> because we don't know what time people will come in and go <RohitThakral> at least 2 are must <RohitThakral> one in morning and one in the afternoon <Mean-Machine> we'll have the event's schedule advertised <Mean-Machine> posters, web etc. <bonglord> Could we install ubuntu on virtual systems? <RohitThakral> news/silicon republic <bonglord> that way we could do it as many times as we want? <Mean-Machine> I still don't see the point of multiple presentations on 1 subject <RohitThakral> i think two is a reasonable number and we can use the same pc again <RohitThakral> because people will come in and go and new people will come <Mean-Machine> does everyone agree with RT? <Mean-Machine> yes/no? <judith_h> yes <judith_h> xD <Hi-Jack> perhaps a person should defer that decision till the time that we actually put the programme together... it would be nice to fit two in. Would there be enough time or resourches? <Mean-Machine> it might be tight <RohitThakral> time??? <RohitThakral> the whole day <Mean-Machine> originally planned 11 - 16 <RohitThakral> we can bring more volunteer's in <RohitThakral> oh OK <RohitThakral> I didnt know that <czajkowski> again <czajkowski> lets focus on getting a plan and we can work out finer details on exact numbers of installs/demos/presentations <Mean-Machine> point taken <RohitThakral> but why not the whole day <bonglord> tes <RohitThakral> 9-5 <czajkowski> rhocause it's a saturday <czajkowski> people do things on Saturdays that they dont get time to do during the week <czajkowski> nobody wants to be somewhere for 9 <czajkowski> 11-16 is enough and ample time to celebrate SFD <czajkowski> depending on numbers that day we can maybe puh it out to 17 for people to hang around and ask questions/mingle <RohitThakral> not everyone ahs to stay <Mean-Machine> we might extend, but we should plan for 11 - 16 <czajkowski> again, it's the weekend, if you start that early nobody is going to want to come. <czajkowski> aye <czajkowski> agreed <Mean-Machine> and we need to be there earlier to make sure everything is in place <Mean-Machine> dont fancy starting at 6 0r 7 am on a saturday <RohitThakral> is everything already decided <czajkowski> Mean-Machine: aye, definately not <Mean-Machine> has everyone read czajkowski's email? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-ie/2008-July/000076.html <RohitThakral> does everyone mean me??? <RohitThakral> yes I ahve <czajkowski> rhno it's an open question to everyone in here. <Mean-Machine> ok, any opinion, suggestion, question? <czajkowski> I've asked around and am gonna see if I can sort some Sponsorhship out <czajkowski> once I hear back I'll post to list <Mean-Machine> this would be great <Mean-Machine> we'll now have 4/5 possible talks (we now have the install presentation) <GDStrong> Yes, I have read that email. * ompaul has quit (Client Quit) <Mean-Machine> is anyone from IFSO with us atm? <GDStrong> Yep, me <Mean-Machine> great <Mean-Machine> still going for the general FreeSoftware talk? <GDStrong> Yes, I don't think there is any problem with that. <czajkowski> excellent <Mean-Machine> brill! <GDStrong> The email suggested 2x30 minutes. Was the idea to have the same talk repeated, or to have two topics? <Mean-Machine> it would be great if we could have 2 topics, is it possible? <GDStrong> (I should be able to do one, and I'll find a stunt double for myself if I can't) <czajkowski> hehe <czajkowski> I out down 2 as Mean-Machine mention 2 talks, but I mean if you can only do 1 and nobody else wants to, that's fine. <czajkowski> *put <Mean-Machine> we're happy to have IFSO with us for this celebration <GDStrong> What kind of topics were you thinking of? DRM was one topic that came to mind, and motivating free software (in a "why use it" way) is always possible, too. <GDStrong> Happy to be along. <czajkowski> motivating free software (in a "why use it" way would be interesting <czajkowski> esppecially if we have people along who are wondering why they should use it. <GDStrong> OK - I'm sure we can do something about that. <Mean-Machine> that'd be great <Mean-Machine> what else do we have there on the agenda? <Mean-Machine> Camara Presentation - tours running throughtout the day, showing the <Mean-Machine> workshop and explaining what they do <Mean-Machine> Camara staff will take care of that <Mean-Machine> ;-] <Mean-Machine> ah, the most interesting part <Mean-Machine> What needs to be done <Mean-Machine>

<Mean-Machine> Sponsorship <Mean-Machine> any ideas how to get sponsorship? <judith_h> for what? <Mean-Machine> for the event <judith_h> for what exactly <judith_h> i meant <RohitThakral> well software houses <Mean-Machine> softdrinks, fingerfood <RohitThakral> Open Source Software companies <czajkowski> oh I've jsut asked CRM and AIb as both of them I met during IOTC and both use open source <Mean-Machine> mayby some simple marchandising <RohitThakral> cool <RohitThakral> can we make a list <RohitThakral> and follow up with companies <judith_h> OpenApp <RohitThakral> send them emails/letters phone calls <judith_h> Quest <RohitThakral> Yes <RohitThakral> SugarCRM <czajkowski> judith_h: I've tapped them a lot already <czajkowski> not sure I'd be able to do it again <RohitThakral> czajkowski <czajkowski> RohitThakral: yes <RohitThakral> Good to have a list so that we all can follow <RohitThakral> and we are not doubling the efforts <Mean-Machine> do not just send emails anywhere!!! <RohitThakral> emails will be followed up by either meetings <Mean-Machine> listen up <Mean-Machine> we should talk about everyone's roles <Mean-Machine> not that everyone is responsible for many things <Mean-Machine> or none <Mean-Machine> when it comes to sponsorships, it's mainly czajkowski's area as she's got the required experience <Mean-Machine> myself and ebel are there to support czajkowski in this <Mean-Machine> we have loads of other tasks to give away <Mean-Machine> we'd need a press release text * RohitThakral (n=rohit@89.100.110.176) has left #ubuntu-ie <Mean-Machine> which then has to be sent out regularly <judith_h> mean: which kind of press do you have in mind? <Mean-Machine> daily papers <Mean-Machine> irish websites <judith_h> daily papers? <judith_h> such as metro and stuff? <Mean-Machine> metro, independent tc. <judith_h> oO <judith_h> okay.. <judith_h> isn't it a bit...much? <Mean-Machine> why is that? <Mean-Machine> not every paper will print it <judith_h> that's what I meant <judith_h> but okay, try t. <czajkowski> ok if we have stuff for the indo <czajkowski> I can ask jason <czajkowski> he works there for a contact * GDStrong (i=53515203@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4f28e43c3a6be08c) has left #ubuntu-ie <czajkowski> right before anyone else leaves <czajkowski> and it gets any later <czajkowski> anything else we need to address?? or comment on? <Mean-Machine> don't think so <Mean-Machine> the only thing I would like to say is: <czajkowski> Right so I'll work on sponsorship this week and maybe Friday or next Saturday when I get a chance will let folks know via email <Mean-Machine> come forward, participate and help out ;-] <Mean-Machine> czajkowski, cool <Mean-Machine> I'll work on setting up the event schedule <czajkowski> and I'm logged on the whole time so folks can leave me a pm if I'm not about or at work, or name me on email laura@lczajkowski.com <Mean-Machine> you'll also find our contact details on ubuntu-ie wiki pages <Mean-Machine> SFD 2008 <Mean-Machine> btw, I won't be in Dublin next weekend, so the Drop In Centre will not be opened * ChanServ gives channel operator status to Mean-Machine <judith_h> was anybody there yesterday? <Mean-Machine> yes, harcesz was <judith_h> who is that? <Mean-Machine> we were fixing his laptop * Mean-Machine has changed the topic to: SFD 2008 IRC Meeting - finished! }}}

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