<> == Topics == * We are an Official Team now \o/ * Install Fest * Final plans == Log == {{{ 20:00 < etank> Happy Release Day Kentucky 20:00 < etank> are you all ready to kick off the meeting --- Log closed Thu Apr 19 20:03:39 2007 --- Log opened Thu Apr 19 20:06:43 2007 20:06 >>> etank_!n=etank@74-140-129-0.dhcp.insightbb.com 20:06 Irssi: #ubuntu-kentucky: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 20:07 < bkingx> Heck yeah! 20:07 < bkingx> That is some good stuff there! 20:07 < bkingx> We have already applied for our CD's. Unfortunately, we can only get 300 now. 20:07 Irssi: >>> Join to #ubuntu-kentucky was synced in 66 secs 20:07 < etank!n=etank@ubuntu/member/etank [Nick collision from services.] 20:07 < jkeyes0> 300 should be plenty. do they have a timeframe? 20:08 >>> You're now known as etank 20:08 < bkingx> But this is a good thing. We will be able to do many good things. 20:08 < bkingx> I believe it is about 2 weeks. 20:08 < bkingx> We should be getting a web address and can start building a nice webpage. 20:09 >>> queenofthe1ring!n=erin@74-131-26-137.dhcp.insightbb.com 20:09 < etank> sorry im late. what are we discussing now? 20:09 < bkingx> Not sure if it will be hosted by canonical or not, but we will be able to host some of the things we have been wanting 20:09 < bkingx> Team Approval, etank 20:09 < bkingx> And what comes with it. 20:09 < etank> SWEET. 20:09 >>> klicker!n=klicker@adsl-217-185-163.owb.bellsouth.net 20:09 < bkingx> 2 weeks for the CD's? and 300, right? 20:09 < queenofthe1ring!n=erin@74-131-26-137.dhcp.insightbb.com [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:10 < etank> the wiki says that if we ordered then _before_ 4/18 then we would get them two weeks after release 20:10 >>> queenofthe1ring!n=erin@74-131-26-137.dhcp.insightbb.com 20:10 < etank> 300 is the new number 20:10 < bkingx> Got any more to add about the approval, etank ? 20:10 < etank> it used to be 500 20:10 < etank> i missed some of what was said earlier 20:11 < etank> a sub-domain of ubuntu-us.org is one thing 20:11 < bkingx> Nothing much...jsut we are approved now, we get CD's...and a web addy 20:11 < etank> CDs for each release 20:12 < etank> those are the biggest things 20:12 < srwalter> so, installfest 20:13 < etank> will it be possible for a few of us to get in the room before the install fest 20:13 < bkingx> right, srwalter 20:13 >>> X626!n=X626@dialup-4.224.222.109.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net 20:13 < etank> say friday? 20:13 < srwalter> how much before? 20:13 < srwalter> we discussed that at the LUG meeting 20:13 < etank> just to start with a little setup 20:13 < srwalter> the decision was: you probably don't want to 20:13 < srwalter> we can't guarantee the security of anything you leave in the room overnight 20:13 < bkingx> How early on Sat? 20:13 < srwalter> as early as you can get Tom out of bed, I suppose 20:14 < srwalter> he's not here, despite my reminding him at least twice 20:14 < bkingx> Even if it is overkill, being our first installfest, I suggest lo later than 10 20:14 < bkingx> *no 20:15 < etank> well i have a switch, mac with 2 nics, 2 wireless routers, a monitor and a box of cat5 cables here 20:15 < srwalter> alright 20:15 < etank> i have to teach on Saturday so the earliest that i can get there is 12 20:15 < srwalter> I think Tom has something to do until 12:30, but he can probably let you in beforehand 20:16 < etank> bkingx: if you want to pick the stuff up from me and get started with it then that is fine 20:16 < bkingx> Whew...cutting it close! 20:16 < bkingx> OK..we can finalize that tomorrow 20:16 < etank> the best i can do 20:16 < srwalter> I assume the mac w/ 2 nics is running Linux, etank? 20:16 < etank> sure is 20:17 < srwalter> good man. 20:17 < bkingx> srwalter: can you assit in setting that up? 20:17 < etank> server version of Edgy if i am correct 20:17 < srwalter> yep, no problem 20:17 < srwalter> actually, tom's nick is online 20:17 < srwalter> tom8658: you suck 20:17 < klicker> lol 20:18 < etank> do we want to discuss a schedule for the event 20:18 < bkingx> OK.. setting up the connection to the network -> srwalter 20:18 < bkingx> Sure, etank 20:18 < etank> who all is doing a presentation 20:19 etank +1 20:19 < srwalter> me me me 20:19 < srwalter> that reminds me... tom was supposed to get his laptop to me 20:19 < queenofth> how long are the presentations going to take? 20:19 < etank> since the event is 3 hours i think no longer that 15 - 20 minutes each 20:19 < etank> if that long 20:20 < p0g0> Zuph: I have a story for you (re: forensics)- It's 14 years old, so I can tell it 20:20 < etank> zenwhen: are you planning on doing a presentation? 20:20 < srwalter> I think we should do at least some of the presentations after we get presentations started 20:20 < etank> Zuph: you mentioned one as well 20:20 < srwalter> that way people will have something to pay attention to while the install runs 20:20 < queenofth> that was my point 20:21 < p0g0> I was hired to recover the wilfully deleted files of the outgoing administration, and to survey the local government offices PC's 20:22 < p0g0> Zuph: so, I was in an office that I thought belonged to local govenment, but it was actually the Circuit Court's 20:22 < etank> ok how does this sound for a _rough_ agenda 20:22 < etank> Presentation - Eric - Why Ubuntu 20:22 < etank> Actual Installs 20:22 < etank> Presentation - Steve - beryl 20:22 < etank> Show how to run updates 20:22 < etank> Show how to setup a wireless connection 20:23 < Zuph!n=Brad@74-138-203-144.dhcp.insightbb.com [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:23 < srwalter> seems agreeable to me 20:23 < montgoej> seems good 20:23 < bkingx> Good 20:23 < etank> someone mentioned doing a server presentation (i think it was Zuph) 20:23 < etank> we can work that in too if there is a desire for it 20:24 < bkingx> I think you are right...a simple LAMP install 20:24 < p0g0> no point in finishing that story now...oh well 20:24 < bkingx> How about refreshments? 20:24 < srwalter> pizza! 20:24 < etank> becca said that she was going to try to make cookies too 20:24 < srwalter> Tom was able to get funding from the EE department 20:25 < bkingx> AWESOME srwalter !!! 20:25 < jkeyes0> woot! 20:25 < etank> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SugarCookies <-- these to be exact 20:25 < srwalter> I'm going to buy some soda and snack cakes, as well 20:25 < bkingx> Great... so refreshments are taken care of..... Fantastic!!! 20:26 < etank> bkingx: how is the welcome packet comming along? 20:26 < etank> are we just waiting on the welcome letter 20:26 < bkingx> It will be done tonight...assembly tomorrow. 20:26 < bkingx> Yes, just the welcome letter 20:27 < bkingx> Zuph did a nice job on one and so did David. 20:27 < etank> i think that with a little more polish that it will be great 20:27 < srwalter> btw, we received $5 in donations :-) 20:27 < etank> srwalter, tom8658 have either of you looked over the welcome letter? 20:27 < bkingx> Thanks to Larry from the Hardin Co LUG!!! 20:28 < srwalter> I looked over the welcome letter, it looked good to me 20:28 < bkingx> They are bringing 3 20:28 < etank> we are wanting it to be from all of our teams 20:28 < bkingx> Gotta plug the lugs!! 20:28 < bkingx> LMAO!! That tickled me for some reason! 20:28 < tom8658> im here, i suck, etc 20:29 < tom8658> sorry, im still at work 20:29 < bkingx> lol...sorry about that tom8658 !! 20:29 < srwalter> is today your day to work all night? 20:29 < tom8658> yeah, also yesterday 20:29 < etank> so the plan is to offer dapper, edgy and feisty right 20:29 < bkingx> yep. 20:29 < srwalter> will we recommend one or the other? 20:29 < etank> do we want to decide on one that we recommend 20:30 < srwalter> we can put it up for a vote 20:30 < bkingx> I have all three releases and there derivatives. 20:30 < etank> i partly want to say dapper 20:30 < etank> since it is LTS 20:30 < etank> but then edgy is nice 20:30 < srwalter> I say edgy, because it's newer 20:30 < etank> but feisty is shiny 20:30 < srwalter> most home users don't care about LTS, I don't think 20:30 montgoej says Dapper unless the user knows the full implications of using another and still wants it 20:31 < montgoej> give them choice, just say we recommend dapper 20:31 < srwalter> what are the "implications" or using another? 20:31 < bkingx> We'll have to be some burning fools if we recommend Edgy. 20:31 >>> comfurtn!n=kyle@mrtc-580128.mis.net 20:31 < bkingx> We have MANY Dappers, though 20:31 < srwalter> other than they should upgrade in 6 mo. that's no problem unless they only have dialup 20:31 < montgoej> dapper is LTS, so if you use Feisty or Edgy you don't get as long of a support time 20:32 < srwalter> yes, but if we recommend people run old and busted software for 3 years, they aren't going to like it 20:32 < montgoej> plus with Feisty it should a bit more stable because it was made to be LTS and more stable 20:32 < srwalter> ...you mean dapper, right? 20:32 < montgoej> yeah 20:32 < montgoej> lol 20:33 < etank> if we do dapper there will be quite a few packages that need to be downloaded to get it updated 20:33 < srwalter> ... you mean edgy 20:33 etank thinks that they need to release a new dapper 6.06.2 or something 20:34 < etank> no dapper 20:34 montgoej seconds that 20:34 < etank> it has been out the longest 20:34 < srwalter> ooh, I see 20:34 < etank> really the same with edgy too 20:34 < etank> klb: what are your thoughts? 20:35 < klb> mmm, boobies 20:35 < srwalter> ? 20:35 < tom8658> haha 20:35 < klb> I'm sorry.. what? 20:35 < queenofthe1ring!n=erin@74-131-26-137.dhcp.insightbb.com ["Leaving"] 20:35 < zenwhen> yes 20:35 < zenwhen> dapper needs some updated packages 20:35 < klb> yes 20:36 < klb> Edgy :) 20:36 < etank> at the installfest should we recommend dapper, edgy, or feisty? 20:36 < jkeyes0> need a dapper service pack, eh? 20:36 < etank> jkeyes0: yes 20:36 < srwalter> I think edgy will have the best chance of working on the most hardware 20:36 < klb> I would think LTS would only be a big deal in a server environment 20:36 < jkeyes0> someone page sabdfl. :P 20:36 srwalter agrees with klb 20:36 < bkingx> We'll have the dapper repos onsite, on a mirror. 20:37 < srwalter> why is that, if we have dapper CDs? (unrelated question) 20:37 < zenwhen> bkingx: are you taking care of that 20:37 < bkingx> yeah...it's cranking away right now. 20:37 < zenwhen> awesome 20:37 < etank> ok so it sounds like edgy is the winner? 20:37 srwalter +1 20:38 etank +1 20:38 X626 +1 20:38 jkeyes0 +1 20:38 < zenwhen> +1 20:38 < zenwhen> I am burning disks now 20:38 < etank> but if they want the latest greatest then we give that to them as well 20:38 < etank> it is really their choice 20:38 < klb> true 20:38 < srwalter> and if they have dialup, LTS may be better 20:39 < srwalter> else downloading a new version every 6 mo might be impractical 20:39 < etank> so what about the xubuntu, kubuntu, whateverbuntu 20:39 < klb> just note that dapper's proven, edgy may have bugs pop up in the next few weeks 20:39 < etank> do we have those as a choice as well 20:39 < klb> I mean 20:39 < klb> just note that edgy's proven, feisty may have bugs pop up in the next few weeks 20:39 < zenwhen> Oh 20:39 < tom8658> xubuntu only, who would want to run KDE anyway ;) 20:39 < zenwhen> I had not even thought about Kubuntu 20:39 < klb> um 20:40 < etank> klb: good point but we let them know that up front 20:40 < klb> all the people that abhor gnome :) 20:40 < jkeyes0> I tried xubuntu for the first time the other day (VM at work) and I actually kinda like it. 20:40 < tom8658> klb, right bu they all run xfce :) 20:40 < zenwhen> I really should try to like KDE again so that I can help with it 20:40 < klb> heh 20:40 < zenwhen> I just hate it so much 20:40 < etank> we keep saying "download a new release every 6 months" 20:40 tom8658 +1 20:40 < zenwhen> +1 20:41 < etank> each release is supported for 18 months 20:41 >>> queenofthe1ring!n=erin@74-131-26-137.dhcp.insightbb.com 20:41 < klb> oh.. something that should be known... k/x/ubuntu are all the same underneath.. it's just a matter of installing say "kubuntu-desktop" metapackage 20:41 < klb> no need to download an entire new iso 20:41 < srwalter> I think we should start everyone out at ubuntu, unless they have a low ram box 20:41 < xq> ubuntu server, sr ;) 20:41 etank agrees with srwalter 20:41 < srwalter> we can tell people about KDE and stuff, let them try it if they want 20:42 < srwalter> but we don't have kubuntu discs, even, do we? 20:42 < srwalter> (plus I think KDE is teh fugly) 20:42 < etank> klb: will you be at the installfest? 20:42 < xq> you can order up to 10 now for free if you contribute at all in launchpad 20:42 < klb> no :/ I have 2 kids with ball games 20:42 < xq> so all of you can order 10 cds =D 20:42 < tom8658> its probably best to introduce people to the standard ubuntu install, (also kde is nasty) 20:42 < klb> KDE > * 20:42 < etank> xq: but they will not be here in time :( 20:42 < srwalter> I also think that the standard ubuntu is the most polished 20:42 < xq> ohs 20:42 < xq> hehe 20:43 < xq> Just give them like ubuntu server and be like "go at it, learn!' 20:43 < xq> that will be like my old days when I learned a lot lol 20:43 < xq> Slackware ftw then 20:43 < montgoej> KDE is really based on your opinion, I use Gnome, KDE, Fluxbox and XFCE regularly, based on what I'm doing, and sometimes my mood 20:43 < srwalter> may as well install gentoo, in that case 20:43 < queenofth> i think that whatever is the easiest to use would be the way to go 20:43 < xq> Yeah, Gentoo was absolute fun 20:43 srwalter thinks montgoej is schizophrenic 20:43 < montgoej> Sabayon! 20:43 < klb> I do like XFCE, too 20:43 < etank> Linux From Scratch :) 20:43 tom8658 loves xfce 20:44 < montgoej> stupid Gnome never wants to compile no matter what I do in Sabayon 20:44 < srwalter> ummm. maybe you should examine your assumptions 20:44 < etank> ok so it sounds like standard (Gnome) Edgy installs are what we recommend 20:44 < etank> ? 20:44 srwalter +1 20:44 < bkingx> I have all those etank 20:44 etank +1 20:44 montgoej +1 20:44 jkeyes0 +1, but we should offer others if they ask for it. 20:44 < montgoej> sounds good 20:44 tom8658 +1 20:44 < queenofth> +1 20:44 < etank> jkeyes0: that we will 20:45 < zenwhen> +1 20:45 < jkeyes0> btw, I'm bringing my cousin from EKU. He's got a Dell XPS that needs some Ubuntu/XP dual bootage. 20:45 X626 +1 20:45 < srwalter> awesome! 20:45 < etank> zenwhen: are you planning on doing a presentation? 20:46 queenofthe1ring is installing fiesty now 20:46 < bkingx> just to reiterate....I have all the releases, and all the derivatives: K, Edu, X, and PPC 20:46 < montgoej> I've still got a few people at school that are thinking about it(but knowing them they probably won't show up) 20:46 < etank> if so what is it on 20:46 < Gat0rvean> evening all! 20:46 < montgoej> bkingx: awesome! 20:46 < zenwhen> Yikes. I had wanted to but I have been so tied up with buying the house that i haven't written anything. 20:46 < zenwhen> does a maybe work? 20:46 < bkingx> We'll ahve them all available via the server at the event 20:46 < etank> zenwhen: i think that we are covered on presentations 20:47 < etank> becca said that you were maybe working on one 20:47 < etank> i just wanted to try to work up a rough agenda 20:48 < bkingx> where should we park? 20:48 < srwalter> the parking structure on Limestone is probably easiest 20:48 < bkingx> k 20:48 < srwalter> you can turn into Administration Drive to unload 20:48 < srwalter> that's only 30-40 feet from RGAN, and we'll have carts 20:49 < bkingx> great!!!! 20:49 < etank> srwalter: would it make sense to put up some signs around the area directing people 20:49 < etank> since some are coming from out of town 20:49 < srwalter> good point 20:49 < etank> some like "This way to the future of computing!" 20:50 < srwalter> hehe 20:50 < montgoej> would it be a good idea to give them a copy of the .pdf of the Official Ubuntu Book after we install? 20:50 < srwalter> what about putting a link to the campus map somewhere? 20:50 < montgoej> it's creative commons so we have no copyright issues 20:50 < srwalter> does the default install not include said Ubuntu book? 20:50 < klicker> Perhaps the latest newsletter? 20:50 < etank> srwalter: it has excerpts of the book 20:51 < montgoej> yeah, what he said 20:51 < srwalter> where can this PDF be obtained? 20:51 etank has it :) 20:51 < zenwhen> Ill put together a keynote presenation about free software to be either used at the install fest if we can make time or at a future event 20:51 jkeyes0 has it too. 20:51 < srwalter> email, bitte 20:51 < srwalter> stevenrwalter@gmail.com 20:51 etank got it from jkeyes0 20:51 jkeyes0 got it from the Ubuntu India forums. 20:51 < etank> zenwhen: sounds good 20:51 < bkingx> zenwhen: cool 20:52 < etank> jkeyes0: can you email it to srwalter? 20:53 < etank> srwalter: there is a link on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KentuckyTeam/InstallFest for the map of the campus 20:53 < srwalter> sweet 20:54 < jkeyes0> etank, I'll try. it might be too big for gmail (might have to zip it up) 20:54 < bkingx> So...anything else? 20:54 < etank> lets do a quick headcount on who will be there 20:54 etank +1 20:54 montgoej +1 20:54 bkingx +1 20:54 srwalter +1 20:54 X626 +1 20:54 tom8658 +1 20:54 < zenwhen> +1 20:54 < bkingx> 3 from Hardin Co, 2 from UK 20:54 < queenofth> probably +1 20:54 jkeyes0 +1 20:55 < etank> sweet 20:55 < bkingx> And hopefully some guys from Sprint 20:55 < srwalter> side note: if you open up above map link, there is a small map in the corner 20:55 < etank> so if we have about 10 people show up then we can do some one on one work with them 20:55 < srwalter> the loop road is were you can stop to unload 20:56 < etank> are we missing anything? 20:57 < jkeyes0> I had three others schedule to come, but one has to go out of town this weekend, one had major surgery this week, and the other already had other plans (new girlfriend, fun times). 20:57 < bkingx> I think that is pretty much it. 20:57 < etank> it would be great for the next one to have a site for people to register on 20:57 < bkingx> We need to figure out when the best time to get in the building/room 20:58 < etank> that way we have some sort of idea how many to expect 20:58 < bkingx> I hope to have the web site up and running by then, etank 20:58 < bkingx> That would be a good place. 20:58 < etank> i think tom8658 is the one to ask that bkingx 20:58 < srwalter> tom8658 what say you? 20:58 < srwalter> (please God tell us you got a key) 20:58 < tom8658> when do you want/need to get in 20:58 < etank> montgoej: can pick the lock :) 20:59 < montgoej> yep 20:59 < tom8658> i get the keys tomorrow at noon, and if they dont give them to me, i have a lockpick set 20:59 < montgoej> yay more lockpickers :) 20:59 < etank> better than nosepickers 20:59 < bkingx> sometime in the morning. 20:59 < bkingx> Say about 10 - 11 20:59 < jkeyes0> someone must teach me. I can do padlocks, but not doors. 20:59 < tom8658> i think setting anything up on friday is a bad idea, but i'll be on campus at 10 on saturday 20:59 < etank> bkingx: you mean saturday morning right 20:59 < bkingx> Right etank 21:00 < bkingx> 10 will be good, tom8658 21:00 < etank> bkingx: do you want to get the equipment from me that venemous sent? 21:00 < etank> one note 21:00 < X626> lockpicking sounds fun 21:00 < etank> if you have personal stuff there lable it 21:00 < montgoej> it is 21:01 < etank> stuff can grow legs quick 21:01 < bkingx> And YOU are responsible for it!! 21:01 < bkingx> etank: yeah...I can do that/ 21:01 < etank> ok 21:01 < montgoej> see you guys, if not later tonight in IRC then saturday, I gotta go 21:01 < montgoej!n=montgoej@adsl-074-171-214-246.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net ["Ex-Chat"] 21:01 < bkingx> We'll hook up sometime tomorrow 21:02 < etank> does anyone have anything else to add? 21:02 < tom8658> yes, we have food money 21:03 < etank> great 21:03 < etank> is this from the college? 21:03 < tom8658> yeah 21:03 < etank> oh 21:03 < etank> we have a few door prizes too 21:04 < srwalter> oh good 21:04 < bkingx> Not many, but a few 21:04 < srwalter> is it a secret? 21:04 < bkingx> ;) 21:04 < etank> bkingx: has an iMac loaded with edgy 21:04 < etank> and a book 21:04 < queenofth> the iMac is a prize?! 21:04 < etank> yes 21:04 < queenofth> are we allowed to enter? ;-) 21:05 < etank> we will need to work out a raffle system 21:05 < bkingx> Would it be bad to do a buy-a-ticket raffle? 21:05 < etank> queenofthe1ring: good question 21:06 < srwalter> maybe if it's cheap 21:06 < srwalter> like $1 21:06 < srwalter> we can let everyone there get 1 ticket for free 21:06 < srwalter> then they can buy additional tickets for $1 21:06 < etank> srwalter: good idea 21:07 < etank> i may have tickets that we can use 21:08 < bkingx> That IS a good idea, srwalter 21:08 < bkingx> Money can go back to the team. 21:08 < srwalter> we can add it to the $5 current in the team account 21:09 < etank> anything else for tonight? 21:09 < etank> vote for adjourning 21:10 bkingx +1 21:10 etank +1 21:10 X626 +1 21:10 tom8658 +1 21:10 < bkingx> Cool! 21:10 etank is back to downloading Feisty :) 21:10 jkeyes0 +1 21:10 < tom8658> bkingx, we need to meet somewhere saturday morning so i can hand you the key 21:10 < etank> good meeting all }}}