KentuckyTeam/Meetings/2007May03

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Website Development
- Hosting location - Canonical vs Local Server
- Modules- Calendar, Forum, Blog, Wiki, etc
- Content - Articles, How-to's, FAQ
- Access - Public, members, etc
Charity Project update

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20:02 <     etank> lets get this party started bkingx> Go !! montgoej> I'll be back in about 10 minutes or so bkingx> ok, montgoej etank> topics for the evening are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KentuckyTeam/Meetings/2007May03 etank> basically Website ideas and Charity Project talk pat40503> i missed most of my first party last week.Just started using ubuntu and had to use mIRC on windoze near tv and PC kept rebooting bkingx> Well, glad yo made it back for this one! etank> We have been doing some work on the website etank> but we want to know what the team wants to see done with it etank> it is a drupal install now so we can use any of the drupal modules etank> it is still somewhat rough but see it here http://ubuntu-kentucky.org/ etank> the header image will change randomly on each refresh etank> the artist that took the photos has given us permission to use the images (thanks bkingx) >>> srwalter!n=srwalter@74-140-218-2.dhcp.insightbb.com srwalter> lo guys etank> sup srwalter bkingx> hey srwalter ! etank> to clarify, bkingx is not the photographer but he got the permission for us bkingx> Yeah, the photographer is Jeff Rogers.  Just happen to find him on the Net, a local Lexingontian, and he donated the pics for us to use. etank> the artists site is http://www.jeffrogers.com/kentuckywide/index.php bkingx> Class act!! etank> if you click on the image it will take you to his site etank> srwalter: we are talking about http://ubuntu-kentucky.org/ etank> right now the site you are looking at is hosted by us on bkingx's server etank> we also have kentucky.ubuntu-us.org and ky.ubuntu-us.org that canonical hosts etank> we are trying to see if they will point the dns record to our server so that we can host it ourselves bkingx> Right...we feel hosting it ourselves would be better in the long run. bkingx> Gives us freedom to do what we want without space limitations. jkeyes0> is it possible to use javascript to rotate the images at the top? etank> hit the refresh jkeyes0 etank> the code should be working jkeyes0> right, that's working. I thought you'd mentioned something earlier about wanting it to change while the page is up, nevermind. I"m still sick. :P srwalter> who's hosting it?  I understand that the LoCo is, but what company? etank> a box at bkingx's house bkingx> srwalter: I am.....at my house bkingx> box = big honkin server srwalter> cool.  just abusing your cable modem (like I am?) etank> ok so the questions about the site are: etank> Hosting location - Canonical vs Local Server etank> Modules- Calendar, Forum, Blog, Wiki, etc etank> Content - Articles, How-to's, FAQ etank> Access - Public, members, etc bkingx> yup!! zenwhen> hey all etank> so do we want to host it or let canonical do it? etank> sup zenwhen bkingx> My vote is us. venomous> ~/say +1 >>> queenofthe1ring!n=erin@74-140-218-2.dhcp.insightbb.com bkingx> Hey queenofthe1ring ~~ bkingx> !! etank> anyone else with a vote on that? < queenofth> hi bkingx! etank> or if not a vote maybe a concern or question? bkingx> My big concern is if Canonical will let us. etank> it is my understanding that they are letting the Ohio team etank> they are using Dreamhost as their hosting service >>> tom8658!n=tom@74-140-169-73.dhcp.insightbb.com bkingx> Awesome...then that should set the precedence fo us to do it too. zenwhen> dreamhost is terrible jkeyes0> ambivalence here. my only concern is if something happens to bkingx's server and/or internet connection. bkingx> very possible, jkeyes0 zenwhen> I say let them host it if they will host it etank> true there jkeyes0 bkingx> We only get 500MB on their server. etank> they are already hosting the kentucky.ubuntu-us.org and ky.ubuntu-us.org urls for us jkeyes0> at the same time though, servers/connections can fail on the canonical side just as easily... but then, it's not on the shoulders of one person. etank> 500Mb is a lot for a website though bkingx> Yeah...true zenwhen> bkingx: if we need more space, surely it will be something we can host offsite and link to bkingx> Agree. etank> im thinking that canonical will have a bigger pipe too zenwhen> yes etank> faster than what we can offer on a home server zenwhen> That is another concern. etank> but if we want to get a webfaction account or something like that then it is different etank> con for canonical hosting: We only get one shell account bkingx> !webfaction ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/ bkingx> Ouch!! etank> bkingx: http://www.webfaction.com/ etank> so with only one shell account we will have to share etank> and i already asked if we could have a second one and they said no srwalter> that's not necessarily hard srwalter> one person can keep the password zenwhen> I say we either get a host or let them host us srwalter> and everyone else can use SSH keys to log in zenwhen> I dont trust insight that much >>> becca!n=becca@CPE-76-177-32-206.natcky.res.rr.com etank> anyone for letting them host it and then _if_ we need to move it we ask at that time? zenwhen> +1 etank> that is what Ohio did and they were ok with it jkeyes0> +1 here too. bkingx> Who needs access via ssh? srwalter> +1 etank +1 etank> venomous: your thoughts etank> klb: what do you think? venomous> re-thinking my earlier vote.  i'm now in agreement for canonical hosting...we take it if necessary etank> bkingx: are you ok with that? bkingx agrees.....still wants to know who needs ssh access srwalter> http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&lr=lang_en&hl=en&msa=0&msid=103763259662194171141.000001119b4bc596127f8&ll=43.580391,-117.070312&spn=107.682492,239.0625&z=2&om=1 etank> well at this point i have the ssh account info zenwhen> I dont need it bkingx> Just the site developers, right? etank> bkingx: yes bkingx> Cool....I'm good with that then etank> but as srwalter said we can allow others to hit it with keys if needed bkingx> OK...you'll have to show me how to do that later bkingx +1 srwalter> ssh keys rock.  go cryptography! etank> w00t! srwalter> (also, that map proves that PHP sucks... it's Canadian) etank> ok then with taken care of, what do we want to see on the site? etank> i.e. Calendar, Blog, Articles, How-to's, FAQ, planet srwalter> do etank and bkingx have their blogs on planet ubuntu now? etank does etank> do we want to have an install of planet on our site for just team member blogs? etank> a team calendar? >>> seth!n=seth@207-246-87-141.dsl.blueone.net zenwhen> member blogs, event calendar, online support system montgoej> back bkingx is not smart enough....yet etank> allow members to have a blog hosted on the site? zenwhen> hey etank bkingx> +1 for all zenwhen , yes to etank zenwhen> how did you get your plant ubuntu blog etank> !hi | seth zenwhen> planet* ubotwo> seth: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-kentucky! seth> yo yo srwalter> hey seth etank> zenwhen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu srwalter> I think the planet idea is an interesting one, but I'm not exactly an avid blogger etank> srwalter: me either really < queenofth> would it be restricted to computer related blogs? srwalter> I got my 15 minutes of fame for those pictures you posted, tho bkingx> But there are a few. >>> Zuph!n=Brad@74-138-203-144.dhcp.insightbb.com Zuph> Sorry I am late! bkingx> I wouldn't think so, queenofthe1ring bkingx> Hey Zuph bkingx> Koji is very interested in doing stuff about Ubuntu Gaming. etank> queenofthe1ring: if we have a planet of our own then the people that are syndicated can choose what goes to the planet jkeyes0> need snacks. brb. srwalter> etank, what is your blog's URL? etank> queenofthe1ring: only the things that i tag as "ubuntu" on my blog go to planet.ubuntu.com etank> srwalter: http://roninx341.wordpress.com < queenofth> ok, cool etank> but if we give the ability to have a blog on the kentucky site then maybe it should be ubuntu / linux / computer related etank> but im not really sure bkingx> And maybe Kentucky? bkingx> Since we are a Kentucky team? Zuph> etank: You mean I couldn't talk about my failed attempts at hitting on girls? etank> Zuph: no thats fine, we all need a laugh :) zenwhen> lol Zuph> I can make my attempts to hit on them more linux related zenwhen> hey baby, I compiled my own kernel zenwhen> ;) etank> no hex jokes please zenwhen> asl? Zuph> "Hey baby, why don't you come back to my place and let me add your repository to my sources.list" venomous> Zuph: that may be why your attempts are failing! < queenofth> well, i thought it would be more useful to restrict it to just computer related blogs seth> oh noes, is 'insmod' doing to be banned shortly? bkingx> OK...back on subject..... etank> queenofthe1ring: i agree bkingx> I def say calendar, blogs, online support system >>> rrittenhouse!n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse etank> bkingx: blogs like bkingx.ky.ubuntu-us.org or a planet syndication ? etank> or maybe that would be ky.ubuntu-us.org/~bkingx etank> im not sure there srwalter> I like ~user style, but I'm old-school UNIXy like that bkingx> Whichever works best....just think we could use it. bkingx> Would add a personal touch to our presence <   seth!n=seth@207-246-87-141.dsl.blueone.net ["ttfn!  gotta be a dad now..."] bkingx> So those are possible then, etank ? etank> im checking now etank> this is how a blog entry would look then http://ky.ubuntu-us.org/ zenwhen> cool stuff bkingx> Can it be on it's own page? bkingx> or aggregated on the side like news? srwalter> sorry guys; gotta run early tonight bkingx> later srwalter ! etank> later srwalter etank> bkingx: im not sure about that tom8658> later etank> we can play with it some to see bkingx> Yeah...good project for tomorrow <   srwalter!n=srwalter@74-140-218-2.dhcp.insightbb.com ["[BX] Tickle-Me Elmo uses BitchX. *giggle* *giggle* *giggle*"] bkingx> Is there anything else we would like to see? bkingx> A fundamental question, do we want to mimic the Ubuntu and other LoCo sites, or go off on our own tangent? < queenofth> i guess i'm going to go for now as well.  later guys bkingx> Later queenofthe1ring etank> later queenofthe1ring zenwhen> it might be cool to see some video tutorials and such <   queenofthe1ring!n=erin@74-140-218-2.dhcp.insightbb.com ["Ex-Chat"] etank> that will really eat into the 500MB etank> but we could put them on video.google.com bkingx> Or link to the screencasts? jkeyes0> ascii video? :P etank> or youtube and link to them bkingx> Ah....there you go!! jkeyes0> it's possible to embed youtube vids, right? bkingx> My instinct is to stick with the Ubuntu Theme for now. etank> jkeyes0: that is something else to play with to see etank> i know that you can in a wordpress blog etank> im not sure about drupal though etank> ok that covers the website stuff pretty well and gives us some stuff to work on etank> we have a Charity Project update jkeyes0> etank: http://support.bryght.com/node/545 etank pokes Zuph Zuph> WHAT Zuph> Oh etank> tell your good news Zuph> Charity project Zuph> We have 60 computers and maybe as many monitors! jkeyes0> wewt! Zuph> There is some bad news to go along with this, though etank> jkeyes0: thanks for the link Zuph> Bad News 1:  We need to pick these up next week between 0830 and 1600 Zuph> Bad News 2:  I can't keep ALL of them at my place. Zuph> So, anyone with a truck or van available to take a half-day sometime next week and help me pick these up? montgoej> I have monitors, but I don't have room for any more bkingx> I'll take 20 machines. bkingx> and monitors etank> we are doing some remodeling so i dont have room right now Zuph> bkingx: Sold! bkingx> venomous: your garage? : Zuph> Still need help to move them, though. Zuph> I  have every day next week free. Zuph> Don't all volunteer at once. bkingx> I can help etank> sucks that it has to be during the day venomous> garage is actually being used for what a garage is supposed to be used for now... bkingx> Can't be mon, or thurs venomous> room for a few, but not many.. etank> venomous: what, a pool table? bkingx> gr...or tues Zuph> venomous: Beer fridges? bkingx> Wed or Fri for me venomous> funny!! venomous> like Zuph's idea! venomous> actually have a presentable vehicle in the garage now.. etank> so bkingx are you saying that you can help on those days Zuph> Wednesday works best for me. bkingx> yeah...I can do it wed or fri Zuph> Anyone available to come to Louisville wednesday? bkingx> OK...wed sounds good for me zenwhen> I could help pick stuff up but cannot miss work for it etank> klb: you are in the area, could you help? Zuph> zenwhen: If you can get off at noon, You won't have to miss work :) Zuph> Unfortunately, we have to move this stuff during their business hours. zenwhen> they can only  be picked up between 8:30 and 14:00? Zuph> 16:00 zenwhen> Not going to be able to happen unfortunately :( zenwhen> i missed too much work moving Zuph> Shame. etank> how many do you think you can fit in your car and van guys bkingx> etank: can you leave a bit early wed? etank> that may be a number of trips to get all 60 bkingx> I'll even give you a ride. Zuph> I can borrow a van or maybe truck that can fit 30 computers. etank> bkingx: i can't zenwhen> what days can this be done next week? etank> i dont want to waste the day off when i could have an interview soon bkingx> Actually, mon would work for me too. bkingx> zenwhen: Zuph says any day Zuph> Yeah.  It can be done over multiple days Zuph> Obviously I'd prefer to get it done in one, but what ev. etank> Zuph: should we mention the 500 machines? bkingx> I can take the seats out of the van and do about 30 as well etank> well that would make it one trip Zuph> Nope, two or three Zuph> Monitors etank> Zuph: can you house some of them? Zuph> Yes montgoej> see ya, gotta run bkingx> 3 rows of 10?  some wood on top to support monitors?  yeah, I can do 30, I would say. <   montgoej!n=montgoej@adsl-074-171-214-246.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net ["Ex-Chat"] Zuph> I can house like 40. etank> well if bkingx can fit some in his van and bring them back then we can find a place for them Zuph> Maybe more bkingx> I think we have storage for all 60, just need some backs to help. etank> and then we can split the effort some on doing installs and stuff Zuph> bkingx: Okay, so you want to meet up at my place at like noon, and we can grab a quick bite and head out? etank> bkingx: do you mean we as in at your house or we as in team members bkingx> We as in Zuph and my house bkingx> Zuph: what is the loading like? Zuph> bkingx: what do you mean? bkingx> Will we have to  climb stairs, elevators? etank> if it were not for the time constraints i would be able to help Zuph> Negative. Zuph> We can probably borrow a hand cart to load them as well bkingx> All right by a loading dock or door? etank> Zuph: monitors are not a def right etank> so the loading and storage may be that much easier Zuph> Monitors are not definite, and I'm not sure if it's by a loading dock or door. bkingx> OK...we'll just have to play it by ear. bkingx> If we can get 30 in your van, 30 in mine, we'll have it in one trip. bkingx> I just wish we could get more members to help move them. bkingx> Anyone????? klb wonders what etank's "area" is Zuph> Louisville klb> ooh klb> I misreadddddddddddddddddddddd his statement etank> klb: bkingx and Zuph are going to be moving some machines for the Charity project in Louisville venomous> i would, but i'm can't get off work klb> and, I have  stuck key klb> when? jkeyes0> Sorry, been afk. I would come help out, but i've taken too many days off work lately. I can probably store 5 of them (comps and monitors) here in Frankfort, but it's a bit out of the way Zuph> Noon wednesday. etank> let me guess, it's the "d" right klb klb> and I'd be moving what.. from where to where? < Ubuntu-Ky> I guess where is p9? klb> forget where < Ubuntu-Ky> Ok klb klb> lock where < Ubuntu-Ky> Ok klb, where locked Zuph> 60 computers from Oldham County to my house. bkingx> Well, 60 from Oldham co and 30 to your house. Zuph> Yeah. klb> and what's my incentive? Zuph> Helping the team. bkingx> I could pick up etank on the way back and he can help me unload here!!  :) klb> hmm Zuph> Doing a good deed for your fellow man. zenwhen> helping the free software movment klb> I would say tentatively yes... zenwhen> also women will like you more etank> bkingx: i can help you with the unload as long as it is after work hours zenwhen> and your breath will smell better bkingx> Right klb> I have an S-10, a minivan, and a pathfinder at my disposal klb> (keep in mind, I can only operate 1 at a time) bkingx> If Zuph  and klb can help load, we can throw 30 in Zuph's house, and I'll bring 30 back here zenwhen> whats the speed on these things? klb> well, I've had the S-10 to 95, and the Minivan 110+ etank> zenwhen: ~500mhz zenwhen> cool bkingx> Actually I can get the wife to help unload, just would like some help to load up fro Oldham Co. Zuph> Yeah bkingx> klb: LMAO!!! venomous> gotta punch out.  been a long day, and pretty beat. <   venomous!i=ven0m0us@gateway/tor/x-37d9ff348f2093e5 ["leaving"] Zuph> Okay.  I think between the three of us and a bottle of advil we can get this thing knocked out. Zuph> More help would be nice, but I don't think we're going to get it at this meeting. bkingx> Zuph: agreed bkingx> klb: what day is best for you? klb> bkingx, Wednesday, it would appear :) bkingx> ;) bkingx> OK..wed it is. bkingx> I may be able to recruit another back too. etank> anything else for tonight meeting wise? klb> hm, I just tried to add you Zuph.. then you disappeared Zuph> zuh etank> to recap: etank> We are going to let canonical host the site for now until a time (if needed) that we will handle the hosting etank> and klb, Zuph and bkingx are going to get some PCs for the Charity Project on Wednesday of next week. etank> anyone for closing the meeting now? etank +1 bkingx +1 jkeyes0 +1

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