2007May03
Topics
- Website Development
- Hosting location - Canonical vs Local Server
- Modules- Calendar, Forum, Blog, Wiki, etc
- Content - Articles, How-to's, FAQ
- Access - Public, members, etc
- Charity Project update
Log
20:02 < etank> lets get this party started 20:03 < bkingx> Go !! 20:03 < montgoej> I'll be back in about 10 minutes or so 20:03 < bkingx> ok, montgoej 20:03 < etank> topics for the evening are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KentuckyTeam/Meetings/2007May03 20:03 < etank> basically Website ideas and Charity Project talk 20:03 < pat40503> i missed most of my first party last week.Just started using ubuntu and had to use mIRC on windoze near tv and PC kept rebooting 20:04 < bkingx> Well, glad yo made it back for this one! 20:04 < etank> We have been doing some work on the website 20:04 < etank> but we want to know what the team wants to see done with it 20:05 < etank> it is a drupal install now so we can use any of the drupal modules 20:05 < etank> it is still somewhat rough but see it here http://ubuntu-kentucky.org/ 20:05 < etank> the header image will change randomly on each refresh 20:06 < etank> the artist that took the photos has given us permission to use the images (thanks bkingx) 20:06 >>> srwalter!n=srwalter@74-140-218-2.dhcp.insightbb.com 20:06 < srwalter> lo guys 20:06 < etank> sup srwalter 20:06 < bkingx> hey srwalter ! 20:07 < etank> to clarify, bkingx is not the photographer but he got the permission for us 20:07 < bkingx> Yeah, the photographer is Jeff Rogers. Just happen to find him on the Net, a local Lexingontian, and he donated the pics for us to use. 20:07 < etank> the artists site is http://www.jeffrogers.com/kentuckywide/index.php 20:07 < bkingx> Class act!! 20:07 < etank> if you click on the image it will take you to his site 20:08 < etank> srwalter: we are talking about http://ubuntu-kentucky.org/ 20:08 < etank> right now the site you are looking at is hosted by us on bkingx's server 20:08 < etank> we also have kentucky.ubuntu-us.org and ky.ubuntu-us.org that canonical hosts 20:09 < etank> we are trying to see if they will point the dns record to our server so that we can host it ourselves 20:10 < bkingx> Right...we feel hosting it ourselves would be better in the long run. 20:10 < bkingx> Gives us freedom to do what we want without space limitations. 20:10 < jkeyes0> is it possible to use javascript to rotate the images at the top? 20:10 < etank> hit the refresh jkeyes0 20:11 < etank> the code should be working 20:11 < jkeyes0> right, that's working. I thought you'd mentioned something earlier about wanting it to change while the page is up, nevermind. I"m still sick. :P 20:11 < srwalter> who's hosting it? I understand that the LoCo is, but what company? 20:11 < etank> a box at bkingx's house 20:12 < bkingx> srwalter: I am.....at my house 20:12 < bkingx> box = big honkin server 20:12 < srwalter> cool. just abusing your cable modem (like I am?) 20:12 < etank> ok so the questions about the site are: 20:12 < etank> Hosting location - Canonical vs Local Server 20:12 < etank> Modules- Calendar, Forum, Blog, Wiki, etc 20:12 < etank> Content - Articles, How-to's, FAQ 20:13 < etank> Access - Public, members, etc 20:13 < bkingx> yup!! 20:13 < zenwhen> hey all 20:13 < etank> so do we want to host it or let canonical do it? 20:13 < etank> sup zenwhen 20:13 < bkingx> My vote is us. 20:14 < venomous> ~/say +1 20:14 >>> queenofthe1ring!n=erin@74-140-218-2.dhcp.insightbb.com 20:14 < bkingx> Hey queenofthe1ring ~~ 20:14 < bkingx> !! 20:14 < etank> anyone else with a vote on that? 20:15 < queenofth> hi bkingx! 20:15 < etank> or if not a vote maybe a concern or question? 20:15 < bkingx> My big concern is if Canonical will let us. 20:15 < etank> it is my understanding that they are letting the Ohio team 20:16 < etank> they are using Dreamhost as their hosting service 20:16 >>> tom8658!n=tom@74-140-169-73.dhcp.insightbb.com 20:16 < bkingx> Awesome...then that should set the precedence fo us to do it too. 20:16 < zenwhen> dreamhost is terrible 20:16 < jkeyes0> ambivalence here. my only concern is if something happens to bkingx's server and/or internet connection. 20:17 < bkingx> very possible, jkeyes0 20:17 < zenwhen> I say let them host it if they will host it 20:17 < etank> true there jkeyes0 20:17 < bkingx> We only get 500MB on their server. 20:17 < etank> they are already hosting the kentucky.ubuntu-us.org and ky.ubuntu-us.org urls for us 20:17 < jkeyes0> at the same time though, servers/connections can fail on the canonical side just as easily... but then, it's not on the shoulders of one person. 20:17 < etank> 500Mb is a lot for a website though 20:17 < bkingx> Yeah...true 20:18 < zenwhen> bkingx: if we need more space, surely it will be something we can host offsite and link to 20:18 < bkingx> Agree. 20:18 < etank> im thinking that canonical will have a bigger pipe too 20:18 < zenwhen> yes 20:18 < etank> faster than what we can offer on a home server 20:18 < zenwhen> That is another concern. 20:18 < etank> but if we want to get a webfaction account or something like that then it is different 20:19 < etank> con for canonical hosting: We only get one shell account 20:19 < bkingx> !webfaction 20:19 < ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/ 20:19 < bkingx> Ouch!! 20:19 < etank> bkingx: http://www.webfaction.com/ 20:20 < etank> so with only one shell account we will have to share 20:20 < etank> and i already asked if we could have a second one and they said no 20:20 < srwalter> that's not necessarily hard 20:20 < srwalter> one person can keep the password 20:20 < zenwhen> I say we either get a host or let them host us 20:20 < srwalter> and everyone else can use SSH keys to log in 20:20 < zenwhen> I dont trust insight that much 20:21 >>> becca!n=becca@CPE-76-177-32-206.natcky.res.rr.com 20:21 < etank> anyone for letting them host it and then _if_ we need to move it we ask at that time? 20:21 < zenwhen> +1 20:21 < etank> that is what Ohio did and they were ok with it 20:21 < jkeyes0> +1 here too. 20:21 < bkingx> Who needs access via ssh? 20:21 < srwalter> +1 20:21 etank +1 20:22 < etank> venomous: your thoughts 20:22 < etank> klb: what do you think? 20:22 < venomous> re-thinking my earlier vote. i'm now in agreement for canonical hosting...we take it if necessary 20:23 < etank> bkingx: are you ok with that? 20:23 bkingx agrees.....still wants to know who needs ssh access 20:23 < srwalter> http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&lr=lang_en&hl=en&msa=0&msid=103763259662194171141.000001119b4bc596127f8&ll=43.580391,-117.070312&spn=107.682492,239.0625&z=2&om=1 20:24 < etank> well at this point i have the ssh account info 20:24 < zenwhen> I dont need it 20:24 < bkingx> Just the site developers, right? 20:24 < etank> bkingx: yes 20:24 < bkingx> Cool....I'm good with that then 20:24 < etank> but as srwalter said we can allow others to hit it with keys if needed 20:25 < bkingx> OK...you'll have to show me how to do that later 20:25 bkingx +1 20:25 < srwalter> ssh keys rock. go cryptography! 20:25 < etank> w00t! 20:25 < srwalter> (also, that map proves that PHP sucks... it's Canadian) 20:26 < etank> ok then with taken care of, what do we want to see on the site? 20:26 < etank> i.e. Calendar, Blog, Articles, How-to's, FAQ, planet 20:26 < srwalter> do etank and bkingx have their blogs on planet ubuntu now? 20:27 etank does 20:27 < etank> do we want to have an install of planet on our site for just team member blogs? 20:27 < etank> a team calendar? 20:27 >>> seth!n=seth@207-246-87-141.dsl.blueone.net 20:27 < zenwhen> member blogs, event calendar, online support system 20:27 < montgoej> back 20:27 bkingx is not smart enough....yet 20:27 < etank> allow members to have a blog hosted on the site? 20:28 < zenwhen> hey etank 20:28 < bkingx> +1 for all zenwhen , yes to etank 20:28 < zenwhen> how did you get your plant ubuntu blog 20:28 < etank> !hi | seth 20:28 < zenwhen> planet* 20:28 < ubotwo> seth: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-kentucky! 20:28 < seth> yo yo 20:29 < srwalter> hey seth 20:29 < etank> zenwhen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu 20:29 < srwalter> I think the planet idea is an interesting one, but I'm not exactly an avid blogger 20:30 < etank> srwalter: me either really 20:30 < queenofth> would it be restricted to computer related blogs? 20:30 < srwalter> I got my 15 minutes of fame for those pictures you posted, tho 20:30 < bkingx> But there are a few. 20:30 >>> Zuph!n=Brad@74-138-203-144.dhcp.insightbb.com 20:30 < Zuph> Sorry I am late! 20:31 < bkingx> I wouldn't think so, queenofthe1ring 20:31 < bkingx> Hey Zuph 20:31 < bkingx> Koji is very interested in doing stuff about Ubuntu Gaming. 20:31 < etank> queenofthe1ring: if we have a planet of our own then the people that are syndicated can choose what goes to the planet 20:31 < jkeyes0> need snacks. brb. 20:32 < srwalter> etank, what is your blog's URL? 20:32 < etank> queenofthe1ring: only the things that i tag as "ubuntu" on my blog go to planet.ubuntu.com 20:32 < etank> srwalter: http://roninx341.wordpress.com 20:32 < queenofth> ok, cool 20:33 < etank> but if we give the ability to have a blog on the kentucky site then maybe it should be ubuntu / linux / computer related 20:33 < etank> but im not really sure 20:33 < bkingx> And maybe Kentucky? 20:33 < bkingx> Since we are a Kentucky team? 20:33 < Zuph> etank: You mean I couldn't talk about my failed attempts at hitting on girls? 20:34 < etank> Zuph: no thats fine, we all need a laugh :) 20:34 < zenwhen> lol 20:34 < Zuph> I can make my attempts to hit on them more linux related 20:34 < zenwhen> hey baby, I compiled my own kernel 20:34 < zenwhen> ;) 20:34 < etank> no hex jokes please 20:34 < zenwhen> asl? 20:35 < Zuph> "Hey baby, why don't you come back to my place and let me add your repository to my sources.list" 20:35 < venomous> Zuph: that may be why your attempts are failing! 20:35 < queenofth> well, i thought it would be more useful to restrict it to just computer related blogs 20:35 < seth> oh noes, is 'insmod' doing to be banned shortly? 20:35 < bkingx> OK...back on subject..... 20:36 < etank> queenofthe1ring: i agree 20:36 < bkingx> I def say calendar, blogs, online support system 20:36 >>> rrittenhouse!n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse 20:37 < etank> bkingx: blogs like bkingx.ky.ubuntu-us.org or a planet syndication ? 20:37 < etank> or maybe that would be ky.ubuntu-us.org/~bkingx 20:37 < etank> im not sure there 20:38 < srwalter> I like ~user style, but I'm old-school UNIXy like that 20:38 < bkingx> Whichever works best....just think we could use it. 20:38 < bkingx> Would add a personal touch to our presence 20:39 < seth!n=seth@207-246-87-141.dsl.blueone.net ["ttfn! gotta be a dad now..."] 20:40 < bkingx> So those are possible then, etank ? 20:40 < etank> im checking now 20:41 < etank> this is how a blog entry would look then http://ky.ubuntu-us.org/ 20:42 < zenwhen> cool stuff 20:42 < bkingx> Can it be on it's own page? 20:42 < bkingx> or aggregated on the side like news? 20:42 < srwalter> sorry guys; gotta run early tonight 20:43 < bkingx> later srwalter ! 20:43 < etank> later srwalter 20:43 < etank> bkingx: im not sure about that 20:43 < tom8658> later 20:43 < etank> we can play with it some to see 20:44 < bkingx> Yeah...good project for tomorrow 20:44 < srwalter!n=srwalter@74-140-218-2.dhcp.insightbb.com ["[BX] Tickle-Me Elmo uses BitchX. *giggle* *giggle* *giggle*"] 20:44 < bkingx> Is there anything else we would like to see? 20:45 < bkingx> A fundamental question, do we want to mimic the Ubuntu and other LoCo sites, or go off on our own tangent? 20:45 < queenofth> i guess i'm going to go for now as well. later guys 20:45 < bkingx> Later queenofthe1ring 20:45 < etank> later queenofthe1ring 20:45 < zenwhen> it might be cool to see some video tutorials and such 20:45 < queenofthe1ring!n=erin@74-140-218-2.dhcp.insightbb.com ["Ex-Chat"] 20:45 < etank> that will really eat into the 500MB 20:46 < etank> but we could put them on video.google.com 20:46 < bkingx> Or link to the screencasts? 20:46 < jkeyes0> ascii video? :P 20:46 < etank> or youtube and link to them 20:46 < bkingx> Ah....there you go!! 20:46 < jkeyes0> it's possible to embed youtube vids, right? 20:46 < bkingx> My instinct is to stick with the Ubuntu Theme for now. 20:47 < etank> jkeyes0: that is something else to play with to see 20:47 < etank> i know that you can in a wordpress blog 20:47 < etank> im not sure about drupal though 20:48 < etank> ok that covers the website stuff pretty well and gives us some stuff to work on 20:48 < etank> we have a Charity Project update 20:48 < jkeyes0> etank: http://support.bryght.com/node/545 20:48 etank pokes Zuph 20:49 < Zuph> WHAT 20:49 < Zuph> Oh 20:49 < etank> tell your good news 20:49 < Zuph> Charity project 20:49 < Zuph> We have 60 computers and maybe as many monitors! 20:49 < jkeyes0> wewt! 20:49 < Zuph> There is some bad news to go along with this, though 20:49 < etank> jkeyes0: thanks for the link 20:50 < Zuph> Bad News 1: We need to pick these up next week between 0830 and 1600 20:50 < Zuph> Bad News 2: I can't keep ALL of them at my place. 20:50 < Zuph> So, anyone with a truck or van available to take a half-day sometime next week and help me pick these up? 20:50 < montgoej> I have monitors, but I don't have room for any more 20:51 < bkingx> I'll take 20 machines. 20:51 < bkingx> and monitors 20:51 < etank> we are doing some remodeling so i dont have room right now 20:52 < Zuph> bkingx: Sold! 20:52 < bkingx> venomous: your garage? : 20:52 < Zuph> Still need help to move them, though. 20:52 < Zuph> I have every day next week free. 20:53 < Zuph> Don't all volunteer at once. 20:53 < bkingx> I can help 20:53 < etank> sucks that it has to be during the day 20:53 < venomous> garage is actually being used for what a garage is supposed to be used for now... 20:53 < bkingx> Can't be mon, or thurs 20:53 < venomous> room for a few, but not many.. 20:53 < etank> venomous: what, a pool table? 20:53 < bkingx> gr...or tues 20:53 < Zuph> venomous: Beer fridges? 20:53 < bkingx> Wed or Fri for me 20:53 < venomous> funny!! 20:53 < venomous> like Zuph's idea! 20:54 < venomous> actually have a presentable vehicle in the garage now.. 20:54 < etank> so bkingx are you saying that you can help on those days 20:54 < Zuph> Wednesday works best for me. 20:54 < bkingx> yeah...I can do it wed or fri 20:54 < Zuph> Anyone available to come to Louisville wednesday? 20:54 < bkingx> OK...wed sounds good for me 20:55 < zenwhen> I could help pick stuff up but cannot miss work for it 20:55 < etank> klb: you are in the area, could you help? 20:55 < Zuph> zenwhen: If you can get off at noon, You won't have to miss work :) 20:55 < Zuph> Unfortunately, we have to move this stuff during their business hours. 20:55 < zenwhen> they can only be picked up between 8:30 and 14:00? 20:55 < Zuph> 16:00 20:56 < zenwhen> Not going to be able to happen unfortunately :( 20:56 < zenwhen> i missed too much work moving 20:57 < Zuph> Shame. 20:57 < etank> how many do you think you can fit in your car and van guys 20:57 < bkingx> etank: can you leave a bit early wed? 20:57 < etank> that may be a number of trips to get all 60 20:57 < bkingx> I'll even give you a ride. 20:57 < Zuph> I can borrow a van or maybe truck that can fit 30 computers. 20:57 < etank> bkingx: i can't 20:57 < zenwhen> what days can this be done next week? 20:58 < etank> i dont want to waste the day off when i could have an interview soon 20:58 < bkingx> Actually, mon would work for me too. 20:58 < bkingx> zenwhen: Zuph says any day 20:58 < Zuph> Yeah. It can be done over multiple days 20:59 < Zuph> Obviously I'd prefer to get it done in one, but what ev. 20:59 < etank> Zuph: should we mention the 500 machines? 20:59 < bkingx> I can take the seats out of the van and do about 30 as well 20:59 < etank> well that would make it one trip 20:59 < Zuph> Nope, two or three 21:00 < Zuph> Monitors 21:00 < etank> Zuph: can you house some of them? 21:00 < Zuph> Yes 21:00 < montgoej> see ya, gotta run 21:00 < bkingx> 3 rows of 10? some wood on top to support monitors? yeah, I can do 30, I would say. 21:00 < montgoej!n=montgoej@adsl-074-171-214-246.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net ["Ex-Chat"] 21:00 < Zuph> I can house like 40. 21:00 < etank> well if bkingx can fit some in his van and bring them back then we can find a place for them 21:00 < Zuph> Maybe more 21:01 < bkingx> I think we have storage for all 60, just need some backs to help. 21:01 < etank> and then we can split the effort some on doing installs and stuff 21:01 < Zuph> bkingx: Okay, so you want to meet up at my place at like noon, and we can grab a quick bite and head out? 21:01 < etank> bkingx: do you mean we as in at your house or we as in team members 21:01 < bkingx> We as in Zuph and my house 21:02 < bkingx> Zuph: what is the loading like? 21:02 < Zuph> bkingx: what do you mean? 21:02 < bkingx> Will we have to climb stairs, elevators? 21:02 < etank> if it were not for the time constraints i would be able to help 21:02 < Zuph> Negative. 21:02 < Zuph> We can probably borrow a hand cart to load them as well 21:02 < bkingx> All right by a loading dock or door? 21:03 < etank> Zuph: monitors are not a def right 21:03 < etank> so the loading and storage may be that much easier 21:03 < Zuph> Monitors are not definite, and I'm not sure if it's by a loading dock or door. 21:03 < bkingx> OK...we'll just have to play it by ear. 21:04 < bkingx> If we can get 30 in your van, 30 in mine, we'll have it in one trip. 21:04 < bkingx> I just wish we could get more members to help move them. 21:04 < bkingx> Anyone????? 21:04 klb wonders what etank's "area" is 21:04 < Zuph> Louisville 21:05 < klb> ooh 21:05 < klb> I misreadddddddddddddddddddddd his statement 21:05 < etank> klb: bkingx and Zuph are going to be moving some machines for the Charity project in Louisville 21:05 < venomous> i would, but i'm can't get off work 21:05 < klb> and, I have stuck key 21:05 < klb> when? 21:05 < jkeyes0> Sorry, been afk. I would come help out, but i've taken too many days off work lately. I can probably store 5 of them (comps and monitors) here in Frankfort, but it's a bit out of the way 21:05 < Zuph> Noon wednesday. 21:05 < etank> let me guess, it's the "d" right klb 21:05 < klb> and I'd be moving what.. from where to where? 21:05 < Ubuntu-Ky> I guess where is p9? 21:05 < klb> forget where 21:05 < Ubuntu-Ky> Ok klb 21:05 < klb> lock where 21:06 < Ubuntu-Ky> Ok klb, where locked 21:06 < Zuph> 60 computers from Oldham County to my house. 21:06 < bkingx> Well, 60 from Oldham co and 30 to your house. 21:06 < Zuph> Yeah. 21:06 < klb> and what's my incentive? 21:07 < Zuph> Helping the team. 21:07 < bkingx> I could pick up etank on the way back and he can help me unload here!! :) 21:07 < klb> hmm 21:07 < Zuph> Doing a good deed for your fellow man. 21:07 < zenwhen> helping the free software movment 21:07 < klb> I would say tentatively yes... 21:07 < zenwhen> also women will like you more 21:07 < etank> bkingx: i can help you with the unload as long as it is after work hours 21:07 < zenwhen> and your breath will smell better 21:07 < bkingx> Right 21:08 < klb> I have an S-10, a minivan, and a pathfinder at my disposal 21:08 < klb> (keep in mind, I can only operate 1 at a time) 21:08 < bkingx> If Zuph and klb can help load, we can throw 30 in Zuph's house, and I'll bring 30 back here 21:08 < zenwhen> whats the speed on these things? 21:09 < klb> well, I've had the S-10 to 95, and the Minivan 110+ 21:09 < etank> zenwhen: ~500mhz 21:09 < zenwhen> cool 21:09 < bkingx> Actually I can get the wife to help unload, just would like some help to load up fro Oldham Co. 21:09 < Zuph> Yeah 21:09 < bkingx> klb: LMAO!!! 21:09 < venomous> gotta punch out. been a long day, and pretty beat. 21:09 < venomous!i=ven0m0us@gateway/tor/x-37d9ff348f2093e5 ["leaving"] 21:10 < Zuph> Okay. I think between the three of us and a bottle of advil we can get this thing knocked out. 21:10 < Zuph> More help would be nice, but I don't think we're going to get it at this meeting. 21:10 < bkingx> Zuph: agreed 21:10 < bkingx> klb: what day is best for you? 21:11 < klb> bkingx, Wednesday, it would appear :) 21:11 < bkingx> ;) 21:12 < bkingx> OK..wed it is. 21:12 < bkingx> I may be able to recruit another back too. 21:12 < etank> anything else for tonight meeting wise? 21:13 < klb> hm, I just tried to add you Zuph.. then you disappeared 21:13 < Zuph> zuh 21:14 < etank> to recap: 21:14 < etank> We are going to let canonical host the site for now until a time (if needed) that we will handle the hosting 21:14 < etank> and klb, Zuph and bkingx are going to get some PCs for the Charity Project on Wednesday of next week. 21:15 < etank> anyone for closing the meeting now? 21:15 etank +1 21:15 bkingx +1 21:15 jkeyes0 +1
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