Grub2Testing

Revision 153 as of 2009-06-10 02:22:51

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There is a desire always to ship the latest and greatest of any product; boot loaders included. However upgrading a bootloader is at best frightening and risky. The primary bootloader for x86 platforms is currently grub. That however has not been updated since about 1996 and is getting long in the tooth. It also does not support newer BIOS forms like EFI and it never will.

There is a replacement for grub, which has been claiming to be the replacement for it for some years (about 6 at least), grub2. Switching to this would bring support for newer systems, internationalisation, updates and bug fixes etc.

So it's clear we would like to switch the default bootloader to grub2. It makes sense, it's the way forward, why do we not just do it? Well, does grub2 support every single machine out there? All those odd broken machines that grub supports? We do not know. That's where this page comes in.

Testing grub2

If you are running Jaunty Jackalope or later, grub2 can be installed in parallel with, and as a chainloaded sub-bootloader of, your existing grub installation. This allows you to boot actually with grub and then select grub2 from the menu. Then you can confirm grub2 works correctly before electing to switch to it formally.

Even if you are only able to test in chainloaded mode that would give us some information as to the viability of grub2.

Before you Test

Though it is unlikely you will have any issues we would always recommend taking precautions before attempting a bootloader update. It is recommended that you have an up to date backup of your system before attempting this (you have backups right?). It is also recommended that you have a bootable CD or a bootable USB disk available should you be unable to boot following the installation.

How to Install grub2

sudo apt-get install grub2

At the first prompt, select OK. Next, at the "Chainload from menu.lst" prompt answer "Yes". And at the "Linux command line:" prompt just press the Enter key.

This will install grub2 and modify the existing grub boot loader menu allow one to chain load grub2 to allow one to test to see if grub2 works on your machine. At this stage, the original grub is still the main boot loader and keeps the original boot menu items.

Note: In Jaunty (but not Karmic), there is currently a bug in the grub2 installer (LP#376879) where it modifies the existing grub configuration incorrectly. At the "Chainload into Grub 2" menu item, press 'e' to edit the configuration. Press 'e' a second time to edit the top boot line and change:

root   xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx

to:

uuid   xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx

and press the Enter key after editing this line. Then press 'b' to chainload and boot grub2.

Note: xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx is your partition UUID number.

If one can boot from grub2 successfully, one can then install grub2 onto the system as the main boot loader using the command:

sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy

Alternative Test

If you do not want to install grub2 on your machine but you do want to see if it works with your BIOS, an alternative test is as follows:

bunzip2 bootable-grub2-2.5GB.img.bz2
  • Insert a 4GB or larger USB pen drive into your machine
  • Copy the image to the drive (assuming it appears as block device /dev/sdb, do the following):

sudo dd if=bootable-grub2-2.5GB.img of=/dev/sdb

WARNING: Make sure you are writing to the correct block device before proceeding!

  • Boot your machine with this image. If it boots OK, add your hardware to the list below. Note: This image boots from an ext3 partition.

Results

(Please add your machine in the correct alphabetical order)

NOTE: if you only test chainloaded, put UNTESTED in the native column.

Machine

Chainloaded

Native

Root Filesystem

Dual Boot

Root on LVM and/or MD (which?)

Acer Aspire 4530-5627

PASS

PASS

ext4

Yes, Karmic + Windows 7 (pre RC)

Acer Aspire 5051

PASS

PASS

ext4

Karmic + Windows XP

No

Acer Aspire 5920

PASS

A bit flickery when changing between items

ext4

Ubuntu Jaunty, Windows Vista

Acer Aspire One

UNTESTED

PASS

ext3

No

Asus EEE-PC 900A

PASS

PASS

ext4

Jaunty + Recovery

Asus EEE-PC 1000H

PASS

PASS

ext3

jaunty + recovery

Asus EEE 1000HE

PASS

PASS

ext3

jaunty + winXP + Win recovery

Asus F3Jc

PASS

PASS

ext4

Karmic + Windows XP

No

Asus P5Q-E (AHCI) Intel Q955

PASS

UNTESTED

jfs

Jaunty, Win7 RC

No

Asus P5Q Deluxe

PASS

PASS

ext4

Jaunty + Karmic + Win7 RC

Asus P6T Deluxe V2

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

BenQ Joybook 5000

PASS

PASS

ext3

Yes, Jaunty + WinXP

No

Compaq DC7100 SFF

PASS

PASS

ext4

Jaunty + Debian

Compaq Presario C700

PASS

PASS

ext3

Karmic + Windows 7 RC

Compaq Presario CQ50

PASS

PASS

ext4

vista

Compaq Presario CQ60

PASS

PASS

ext3

vista

Compaq Presario SR1000

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

Compaq Presario SR2129

PASS

FAIL

ext3

Vista + Recovery + Jaunty + Karmic

No

Compaq Presario V5120

PASS

PASS

ext4

Karmic + WinXP

Dell Dimension 3100C

UNTESTED

PASS

ext4

No

Dell Inspiron 510M

PASS

PASS

ext4

Karmic + Windows 7 RC (labeled Vista)

No

Dell Inspiron 530

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

Dell Inspiron 530s with extra hard disk (BIOS boots from /dev/sdb)

PASS

FAIL1

ext4

Karmic + Vista

No

Dell Inspiron 535

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

Dell Inspiron 1420

UNTESTED

PASS

ext3

No

Dell Inspiron 1420

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

Dell Inspiron 1501

PASS

PASS

ext4

jaunty + karmic + vista

Dell Inspiron 1525

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

Dell Inspiron 1545

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

Dell Inspiron 1720

UNTESTED

PASS

ext4

kub-jaun + stud-jaun

No LVM

Dell Inspiron 6400

PASS

PASS

ext3

Vista

Dell Inspiron 640m

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

Dell Inspiron 8600

PASS

UNTESTED

ext3

No

Yes LVM

Dell Inspiron e1405

PASS

PASS

ext4

Karmic + Win 7

NO

Dell Mini 9

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

Dell Mini 10

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

Dell Mini 10v

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

Dell Latitude C640

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

No

Dell Latitude D610

PASS

PASS

ext4

Karmic + WindowsXP

No

Dell Latitude E6400

UNTESTED

PASS

ext3

No

Dell Latitude E6500

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

No

Dell M1330

UNTESTED

PASS

ext3

No

Dell Optiplex 760

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

Dell Precision 530 MT (hwdb)

PASS

PASS2

ext3

Yes, win2k, hardy (jaunty partition is chainloaded from hardy's grub)

No

Dell Precision M90

PASS

PASS

ext4

Yes (Jaunty/Karmic)

No

Dell Precision T3400

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

No

Dell Studio 1535

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

Dell Studio 1536

PASS

PASS

ext4

Jaunty + WinXP

No

Dell Studio 1537

UNTESTED

PASS

ext3

No


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Dell Studio 1537

PASS

PASS

ext4

Jaunty, Windows Vista


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Dell Studio 14xx

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

Dell Studio XPS 1340

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

Dell Studio XPS 16xx

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

Dell Vostro 1500

UNTESTED

PASS

ext4

No

Dell XPS M1330

PASS

PASS

ext4

Vista

No

Dell XPS M1530

UNTESTED

PASS

ext3

No

Fujitsu-Siemens Pi1505

PASS

PASS

ext4

Karmic, XP

Fujitsu-Siemens Pi2515

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

Fujitsu-Siemens Pa3553

PASS

PASS

ext3

Yes. Jaunty and Windows Vista

HP 530

PASS

PASS

ext4

Yes. Jaunty and Windows 7 RC

No

HP Compaq 8510p

PASS

PASS

ext3

Yes. Jaunty and Windows XP

HP Compaq nc6320

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

HP DV4T

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

HP DV5 1153EO

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

HP DV6000t CTO

PASS

PASS

ext4

Yes, Windows 7 Beta, 8.04 Hardy on other partition

No

HP TX1000 GA647UA

PASS

PASS

ext4

Yes, Jaunty, Vista

No

IBM Thinkcentre A50

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

Intel Core 2 DP35DP self-build (Intel BIOS)

PASS

FAILED

ext4

Yes - 9.04 & Windows XP

No

Intel Core 2 Quad self-build (based on a ASUS P5K) [kalon33]

PASS

PASS

ext4

Yes, with Win7 RC, Jaunty and Karmic alpha

Intel D945GNT

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

Intel Quad Core self-build (AMI BIOS) [lana]

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

Intel Quad Core self-build (AMI BIOS) [chloe]

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

Intel DQ35JO

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

root on LVM on md RAID1

Lenovo 3000 N200

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

Lenovo 3000 V100

Untested

PASS

ext3

No

Lenovo Ideapad S10

UNTESTED

PASS

ext3

No

Lenovo T60

UNTESTED

PASS

ext3

Yes, Jaunty + WinXP Pro

Lenovo T61

UNTESTED

PASS

ext3

No

Lenovo T61

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

Lenovo T61

PASS

UNTESTED

ext4

No

encrypted LVM

Lenovo T400

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

No

Lenovo T400

PASS

PASS

ext4

Yes, Karmic, Windows XP

No

Lenovo W500

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

Lenovo X200

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

LG S1 Express Dual

PASS

PASS

ReiserFS 3

Yes, Karmic, Windows XP

MSI P35 Platinum

PASS

PASS

ext4

Yes, Karmic.a1 + Jaunty

MSI Wind U100

PASS

UNTESTED

ext3

Yes, Intrepid, Jaunty

root on LVM

Novatech Nomad (rebranded Uniwill M30EI0)

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

root on LVM

PackardBell EasyNote MX52b

PASS

PASS

ext4

Yes, Jaunty, Vista SE

?

Parallels Desktop 4.0.3844 for Mac

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

?

Sapphire PE-AM2RS690HD motherboard c/w AMD 3800+

PASS

PASS2

ext4

No

No

Self-built, lshw, dmesg

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

No

Self-built [Hew], lshw, dmesg

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

No

Self-built, MSI K8Neo4 lshw

PASS

PASS

ext4

Windows XP , Ubuntu Jaunty

No

Self-built-I7 920-Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD4P

PASS

PASS

ext4 and ext3

YES - 5 linux installs

Self-built, lshw, dmesg

PASS

PASS

ext4

Yes, Jaunty and Windows Vista

No

Self-built, lshw

PASS

PASS

ext3

NO

NO

Self-built ASUS M2N-E

PASS

PASS

ext4

vista

Shuttle SG33 (hwdb entry)

PASS

PASS

ext3

yes, hardy and intrepid

No

Sony Vaio VGN-FE31H

PASS

PASS

ext3 and ext4

Yes : jaunty(ext3) + karmic(ext4)

--

Toshiba Tecra A9 Tecra A9

PASS

PASS

reiserfs

Yes (Jaunty+Vista))

No

Toshiba nb100-12a

PASS

PASS

ext4

karmic+xp

No

Thinkpad T23

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

No

Thinkpad T23, lshw, dmesg

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

No

Thinkpad T30

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

Thinkpad T42P

UNTESTED

PASS

ext3

No

Thinkpad X301

UNTESTED

PASS

ext3

No

Thinkpad R51

PASS

PASS

ext3 (Karmic)

No

Thinkpad R61

UNTESTED

PASS

ext4 (Karmic)

No

Thinkpad T60

UNTESTED

PASS

ext3

No

Thinkpad X31

PASS

PASS

ext3

No

Thinkpad X60

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

No

Thinkpad X61

PASS

PASS

ext3

Factory Vista repair/rescue, WinXP

Thinkpad X61T

UNTESTED

PASS

ext3

No

Thinkpad X61s

PASS

UNTESTED

ext4

Ubuntu 8.10 and 9.04

No

Thinkpad X300

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

No

Toshiba U400

PASS

PASS

ext3 (ext2 for /boot)

Yes

No

Toshiba A215-S4697

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

No

Toshiba L40-14G

PASS

PASS

ext3

Jaunty and Vista

Toshiba Tecra M7

PASS

PASS

ext4

Windows 7 and Jaunty

No

VirtualBox

PASS

PASS

ext2

No

VirtualBox

PASS

PASS

ext3

Vista

VirtualBox

UNTESTED

PASS

ext3

No

Yes

VirtualBox

PASS

PASS

jfs

No

VirtualBox

PASS

PASS

reiserfs

No

VirtualBox

PASS

PASS

xfs

No

VirtualBox

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

VirtualBox 64 bit

UNTESTED

PASS

ext4

No

No

VMWare Fusion 2.0.4

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

No

VMWare Workstation 6.5

UNTESTED

PASS

ext3

No

XBook Eruptio DL70 (Compal)

PASS

PASS

ext4

No

No

Xps1710

PASS

UNTESTED

ext4

No

Zepto Znote 6214W

PASS

PASS

ext4

XP, Win 7 RC

No

  1. after booting an Ubuntu CD, selecting "Boot from first hard drive", then going to rescue mode and running "grub-install /dev/sdb" this works again (1)

  2. Inadvertantly, the original groot was a chainloaded partition, but the upgrade script didn't honor that (2 3)