20070515

Summary

  • The CC agenda will be frozen one day before meetings for general items and just before the meetings for locoteams and member candidates
  • The UbuntuMediaCenterTeam has been blessed with official recognition

  • The US DC, Catalan and Argentina teams are welcomed as official LoCoTeams

Members

Log

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03:03   dholbach        ok, let's get started: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda is our agenda for today
03:03   dholbach        is srimadas here?
03:03   dholbach        amachu seems to be his nick on freenode
03:04   jsgotangco      yes that's amachu
03:04   dholbach        ok, amachu seems to not be around... he asked for a clarification on "Ubuntu Derivative - reg. Recently we had the formation of Ubuntu Derivative Team. It appears that some gap has been formed in between [https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2007-April/001280.html]  following this mail and its replies. Would like to get clarified on such issues."
03:04   dholbach        I can just add a few points to that:
03:05   dholbach        I'm in touch with David Farning at the moment, but until now the issues he talked about are rather nebulous to me - I don't exactly know what problem there was with Canonical
03:06   dholbach        we should invite amachu and dfarning to one of the next meetings and talk about this again
03:06   jsgotangco      my take on this one is that it falls pretty much under the trademark policy under derived works just like how other derivatives fall under
03:06   sabdfl  I've not heard anything from dfarning on the subject
03:06   dholbach        also, I asked the sysadmins to create a ubuntu-derivative mailing list - I will announce it and I hope that will make us work closer together with the derivatives
03:07   dholbach        we had some very good sessions with the guys from Guadalinex at UDS, so I'm very confident this will help improve things
03:07   sabdfl  ok. we have a very strong pro-derivative policy in general, and want them to feel welcome to use ubuntu as it suits them
03:07   sabdfl  next?
03:08   dholbach        juliux proposed "CCAgenda freeze - The wikipage for the CommunityCouncilAgenda, should be frozen a few days before the CC Meeting so everybody can check if the items are interesting to him or not."
03:08   sabdfl  i'd rather not, as it would introduce greater delays i think
03:08   jsgotangco      was the wiki page frozen at all? I noticed changes until this morning...but then it only took me an hour to read everything
03:08   sabdfl  that said, we don't want people adding items during the meeting, either :-)
03:08   dholbach        hehe
03:09   MikeB-  :)
03:09   juliux  i put that up because there were some people adding himself for membership just a few minutes before the meeting
03:09   gnomefreak      freezing it would help keep meetings shorter
03:09   kjcole  Seems wise, considering the CC meets fairly regularly.  On the other hand one can always freeze it an hour before rather than days.
03:09   jsgotangco      i believe a placeholder notice would do for now
03:09   kjcole  (Perhaps "hours" rather than an hour or days.)
03:09   juliux  i think the general agenda items should be froozen, so everybody knows about the items for the next meeting
03:10   juliux  kjcole, did you check the agenda every hour?
03:10   sabdfl  what about taking a different approach to discussion items vs memberships/loco's
03:10   sabdfl  i see no problem with someone adding themselves for membership just before hand, as long as they have folks there who will speak for them to backup their wiki pages and lp track record
03:10   juliux  sabdfl, i am happy if the general items are frozen a few days before the meeting
03:11   sabdfl  for discussion items, it makes sense to freeze a little earlier (though i don't think more than 24 hours is needed)
03:11   Seveas  sorry for being late, network problems
03:11   kjcole  juliux, no but it seemed like a compromise between not freezing, and freezing days ahead.  And I would check a few hours ahead if that were the established policy.  (Or live with the uncertainty.)
03:11   sabdfl  also, it should be good practice to notify anyone concerned that an item was added
03:11   sabdfl  especially in the case of a dispute
03:11   sabdfl  so we get the chance to hear from all sides
03:12   jsgotangco      that's ideal
03:12   Seveas  sabdfl, good idea
03:12   Seveas  (was the first item on the agenda skipped?)
03:13   dholbach        Seveas: amachu was not here
03:13   sabdfl  no, just rapidly dispensed with
03:13   Seveas  ok
03:13   kjcole  Encourage people who add agenda items to subscribe?  (I get automatic notices when the CC agenda page changes...)
03:13   sabdfl  so, can we agree on 24 hours for discussion items, and just before for memberships/locos?
03:13   dholbach        I'm happy with that
03:13   kjcole  Maybe a note on the agenda page suggesting subscription?
03:13   Seveas  likewise
03:13   MikeB-  sabdfl: sounds good
03:14   jsgotangco      yes
03:14   juliux  sabdfl, sounds good
03:14   dennda  nice idea
03:14   sabdfl  ok, i think that's sufficient consensus, seveas could you update the page accordingly?
03:15   Seveas  will do
03:15   dholbach        next item: Uzuul wants blessing for the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMediaCenterTeam
03:15   Uzuul   I've put the latest status & roadmap here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMediaCenterTeam/Status20070514
03:16   Uzuul   we're on the road to success, federating *all* the players in the field (Debian, Ubuntu, Elisa, LIRC, ...) to work together...
03:17   jsgotangco      that's a healthy spread of team members
03:18   Uzuul   jsgot: yeah ;-)
03:18   mako    i hope you got my message 15 minutes before saying i'd be miss the beginning of hte meeting
03:18   jsgotangco      how do you forsee this project going during gutsy development?
03:19   mako    apologies for the disruption, i'm reading scrollback
03:19   Uzuul   jsgotangco: well, we will have releasable things. Elisa 0.2 will be out for the Guadec, packages are underway...
03:19   elmo    sorry, but what does federating mean in this context?
03:20   Uzuul   the only point is about the artwork (missing gfx designers) and the achievement of our UI goals. I've no exact idea yet!
03:20   dholbach        looks like you have lots of ideas and a lot of people in the team
03:20   dholbach        how many people are working on getting the changes you propose into Ubuntu?
03:20   Uzuul   elmo: team members, working together on the same aims...
03:21   Uzuul   dholbach: some 10 peoples really active. but we are quickly growing...
03:21   dudanogueira    Uzuul, i know a very good gfx designer. vdepizzol. he probably will be very interested in design it.
03:21   dholbach        I'm asking because the goals you propose in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MediaCenter/SoftwareSpecs look quite some work
03:22   Uzuul   dholbach: we work a lot upstream, so hitting ubuntu by side effect...
03:22   Uzuul   dholbach: Elisa team already address a lot ;-) Isn't it Kaleo
03:22   Kaleo   About the artwork, we have a graphist in the Elisa team
03:23   Uzuul   dudanogueira: thanks for this. I'll contact him...
03:23   Kaleo   Feature-wise, Elisa is meant to achieve many of the points listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MediaCenter/SoftwareSpecs soon
03:23   sabdfl  as i understand it, the initial step is just packaging Elisa, right?
03:24   sabdfl  that in itself would be a very good start
03:24   dudanogueira    Uzuul, he is right here: http://vdepizzol.wordpress.com/
03:24   jsgotangco      that's how i got it as well
03:24   jsgotangco      package Elisa, and have it on Ubuntu as a good platform
03:24   sabdfl  that's fine by me!
03:24   Uzuul   sabdfl: right ! I'm working, as a DD, with Loic Minier, on this point.
03:24   sabdfl  super
03:25   sabdfl  once you have a core piece of software like that in place, you can build a custom derivative easily enough
03:25   Uzuul   sabdfl: but that's just a small beginning. The big things comes then ;-)
03:25   sabdfl  well, let's take one step at a time :-)
03:26   jsgotangco      there's huge interest in having free software in the entertainment hub and having this go along with Ubuntu will definitely create a following
03:26   Uzuul   sabdfl: right, but some things can be done in // without impacting the schedule (like the LIRC improvements) ;-)
03:26   sabdfl  we get a LOT of requests for media centre functionality, so it will be great to be able to point folks at Elisa
03:26   sabdfl  LIRC?
03:26   Seveas  infrared
03:26   Seveas  remote control things
03:26   jsgotangco      ahh for all-in-one remotes
03:26   mako    sabdfl: absolutely
03:26   Treenaks        (shouldn't lirc be replaced by proper kernel input drivers?)
03:26   dholbach        I'm very happy you're keen on getting this done and are so enthusiastic about it; I'm with sabdfl here: I'd recommend splitting up the long list of goals in tiny tiny tasks, so you can easily track them and get people involved with them
03:26   Uzuul   sabdfl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RemoteControls
03:27   Daviey  Treenaks, being worked on already
03:27   Treenaks        Daviey: \o/
03:28   Uzuul   Daviey: can you contact me back for more info? I have a task underway upstream on that...
03:28   Daviey  Uzuul, pm
03:28   Uzuul   dholbach: the tasks splitting is planned.
03:29   sabdfl  Uzuul: what do you need from us right now?
03:29   Uzuul   sabdfl: an official blessing, and a mailing list.
03:30   sabdfl  +1 from me
03:30   MikeB-  +1 from me, definitely an area Ubuntu should support
03:31   jsgotangco      there's some work to be done, but it seems there is more work being accomplished upstream, so I would give my +1 as well to have something for Ubuntu in the future
03:31   dholbach        +1
03:31   mako    if you really have ~30 members, it seems that this would be overdue
03:31   mako    +1 from me
03:32   sabdfl  elmo?
03:33   dholbach        Uzuul: it'd be nice to hear back from you team every now and then to see how you're progressing (maybe on one of the other mailing lists)
03:33   elmo    +1
03:33   sabdfl  Uzuul: i think you can proceed, elmo will likely chime in with additional comments and questions in due course
03:33   sabdfl  ok
03:33   sabdfl  congrats Uzuul! please keep us posted, and good luck building your team
03:33   jsgotangco      Uzuul: good luck along with the team!
03:33   sabdfl  ok, loco's!
03:33   Kaleo   thank you guys :)
03:33   sabdfl  kjcole: around?
03:33   Uzuul   sabdfl: thanks fellows. I'll keep you informed (any prefered ml?)
=== kjcole is here
=== rafael_carreras is here
03:34   sabdfl  Uzuul: keep the UWN folks abreast of news that the whole community will be interested in, and perhaps report back here every month or so initially
03:34   dudanogueira    Uzuul, congrats!
03:35   Uzuul   all: thanks. we'll do the necessary to succeed. see you soon. bye
=== beuno takes notes for the UWN
03:35   beuno   Uzuul: get in touch with me for the UWN
03:38   Treenaks        sabdfl: www.xs4all.nl/~johnpc/uniud/
03:46   Uzuul   beuno: ok, I'll update you asap for the first milestones.
03:34   sabdfl  dcteam!
03:34   sabdfl  let's go
03:35   kjcole  Hi. The Washington, DC LoCo Team's been around for a while but we were under the impression that we'd been formalized.
03:35   jsgotangco      anyone from DC team aside from kjcole
03:35   jsgotangco      ahh
03:35   flint   jsgotangco, I am here.
03:36   kjcole  jelkner's on, but teaching class, so attendance is spotty at best.
03:36   sabdfl  i've been aware of this team for some time, also thought they were formalised
03:36   kjcole  We've now got a forum, and are scheduling meetings.
03:36   jsgotangco      yes same here
03:36   jsgotangco      and this is a fairly active team in the US, if not the first
03:37   jsgotangco      (especially in the education front)
03:37   flint   sabdfl, I formed this group after Ubuntu Down Under. that was a while ago....
03:37   Seveas  lots of madness in there :)
03:37   kjcole  Our web site is undergoing change now, as we work with high school students, and they get the opportunity to redesign it.
03:38   sabdfl  ok, kjcole do you want anything other than a quick ack? we know and love ya :-)
03:38   jsgotangco      yes, i even got to talk to jeffrey elkner in person that they were forming something...
03:38   mako    sure, i'd be in a bunch of touch with flint and kjcole about the team
03:38   jono    the dc team looks promising
03:38   kjcole  I guess we're just looking for the official blessing / rubber stamp.
03:38   Vorian  I can vouch that the DC team does a LOT for the DC area...  Great team!
03:38   jono    membership is quite low though
03:38   mako    if anything, i think we might have really pushed the team before there was a formal procedure
03:38   sabdfl  kjcole: any recent events or highlights you can tell us about?
03:39   kjcole  We're planning the Free/Open Source Software in Education conference (FOSSED) for August.  That's the biggest thing on our plate.
03:40   jelkner we are setting up several community computing center in the dc area using edubuntu
03:40   sabdfl  where will that be held?
03:40   flint   sabdfl, they have the yhslug meeting coming up Friday.
03:40   kjcole  Once again, we'll be doing Software Freedom Day (year 3 for us) and the Takoma Park Folk Festival (year 2) in the fall.
03:40   jono    kjcole: what plans do you have to grow the membership?
03:40   jelkner jono: our membership doubled in the last month
03:40   jono    jelkner: right
03:40   kjcole  Gallaudet University, my place of gainful employment.  But we're aiming at K-12 primarily.
03:40   Vorian  jono, they have a new forum on ubuntu forums, that should be a big boost.
03:41   jelkner we really need to just be more aggressive in asking folks to formalize it
03:41   jelkner we've been a bit lax in that
03:41   flint   jono, the goal is also aimed at the U.S. high school age 11-18 years old...
03:41   jono    right
03:41   popey   sabdfl, elmo, mako, I have to disappear, but Daviey asked me to flag wave for him. Consider this a flag wave :)
03:41   mako    popey: sounds good, thanks
03:41   kjcole  For a team that's based around an area not even considered a state, how big a membership should we have?  We're trying to keep it to people who are genuinely interested enough to get signed up on Launchpad...
03:42   jsgotangco      surely you can get more people with enough exposure to local events?
03:43   MikeB-  jono: the DC area is a different beast, since it is such a commuter town.
03:44   jelkner i have a question about this...
03:44   jelkner we touch a lot of people
03:44   jono    team looks good to me
03:44   flint   The point of the DC LoCo is that it should be "grandfathered" in because it lead the whole LoCo concept.  Is this a numbers game, or is having representation in the US Capitol just a good idea?
03:44   jelkner most of them will not become "members"
03:44   jono    but I would like them to concentrate on growing membership
03:44   jelkner we think of members as activists
03:44   kjcole  Well, there are people who are interested as end-users...   And, we're starting to get local "competition" (for lack of a friendlier word).
03:44   jelkner we will work for more members
03:45   sabdfl  i don't think there's a "necessary threshold" of numbers
=== mako nods to sabdfl
03:45   sabdfl  and the DC team has pioneered a number of great concepts in the use of free software in education
03:45   jsgotangco      it still does for sure
03:45   mako    the only reason that the DC loco isn't "official" is that they predate the official concept
03:45   sabdfl  so i'm +1 on formalising them as an Ubuntu LoCo team
03:45   dholbach        I'm personally quite happy with what the DC team did until now
03:45   jono    indeed, membership is not an identification of a good team, it just helps with sustainability, and it is clear the DC team is doing good work
03:45   kjcole  (Within a short subway ride we have the DCLUG, NOVALUG, YHSLUG, UMDLUG, DC Loco, NE US Regional Loco, MD Loco...
03:45   flint   The DC LoCo is also affiliated with no less than three LUGs in the DC area, in DC, Maryland and Virginia.
03:46   dholbach        (and thought it was formalised already)
03:46   kjcole  We were just first among LoCo's.)
03:46   mako    i think it should be *every* teams goal to grow membership in that one of the goals to spread the word
03:46   mako    that said, while the numbers of participants can be a very good sign of the activity within a loco, it shouldn't be a litmus test
03:46   jono    mako: exactly
03:46   flint   mako, we spread the code, and all else comes to pass.
03:46   dholbach        +1 from me: uo o
03:46   mako    jono: i mean, 1 person is not  much of a team :)
03:47   jsgotangco      +1 as well o
03:47   jono    mako: heh
03:47   mako    +1 from me
03:47   MikeB-  +1 from me
03:47   jono    mako: you should have seen a recent approval application I got ;)
03:48   mako    "No (Wo)Man Is A LoCo"
03:48   jsgotangco      jelkner: whatever happened to colin applegate
03:48   jelkner he is back
03:48   jelkner was away at college
03:48   jelkner now back for the summer
03:48   jsgotangco      good to hear
03:48   jsgotangco      time flies
03:48   mako    although they might be loco
03:48   kjcole  Thank you all.  Does one of you update the LoCo page or shall we move ourselves?
03:48   flint   Colin is asleep as one could expect from most teenagers...
03:49   Vorian  congrats kjcole and flint!!!  uo o :)
03:49   juliux  kjcole, why are you wearing a fedora on the picture on your wikisite?
03:50   flint   juliux, I agree with you on this point.  But I think the Red Hat is worn in pity.
03:50   flint   :^0
03:51   mako    juliux, kjcole: fedoras are nice hats
03:49   jojopas Good Evening sirs. It's getting awfully late here and I need to go home. But before I leave, I would like to endorse Mr. Dax Umaming. My name is Jojo Pascua and I attended mr. Umaming's Ubuntu Training held at Lourdes College in Daet, Camarines Norte, Philippines last April 11. I learned a lot from him and he accomplished a lot in just one day. His training was very precise and will surely help out the school. I'm now using Kubuntu. By the
03:49   jojopas way,he managed to convert the whole school to use Ubuntu. And because of him, single-handedly, 800 Kinder, Elementary, high School, and College students will be using Xubuntu 7 this coming school year in June. Also, he'll be back by the 3rd or 4th week of June for another trainig, but this time it's for the local gov't of Daet, with gov't agencies joining him. I hope you consider him. I'm not a member of Ubuntu rarely in IRC, so my apologies if I disturbed anyone. thank you and Goodnigth!
03:49   jsgotangco      ummm jojopas bless you
03:49   jojopas sorry
03:50   sabdfl  thanks jojopas
03:51   Seveas  (I added that to the wikipage of Dax Umaming)
03:48   Seveas  Next: beuno and the Argentina team
03:49   beuno   thanks Seveas
03:49   mako    a particiuarly appropriate comment for the argentina team?
03:49   beuno   mornin' sabdfl
03:49   kjcole  Because Ubuntu doesn't have as nice a looking hat. ;-)
03:49   beuno   I'm Martin Albisetti and I'm representing the Argentina LoCo today. The team has been active for over eight months, and in that time we've grown up to over 100 members in Launchpad alone, participated in a few Instalfests and promoted Ubuntu all over the Country. Some of us have even traveled over 400km to other locations and setup booths to talk to people in conferences (see some great pictures linked in the Wiki). We also provide *a lot* of support to users in the forums and Mailing List. Links: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArgentinaTeamApprovalApplication and https://launchpad.net/~uluga/

03:51   jono    have we not got to the catalan team yet?
03:51   rafael_carreras Nice to meet you, Council
03:51   mako    jono: nope
03:51   jono    mako: right
03:51   sabdfl  ok, Catalan team?
03:52   rafael_carreras here we are
03:52   sabdfl  fire away
03:52   rafael_carreras The Ubuntu Catalan LoCo Team is a very active, fast growing group of people that gathers the Catalan-speaking users community of Ubuntu in all its varieties. The scope of the Catalan LoCo Team is mainly the Catalan Countries, that is, the territories where Catalan is traditionally spoken, where members and volunteers are scattered practically all over their geography. Its aim is to support and promote Ubuntu amongst the Catalan
03:52   rafael_carreras speaking community as it is the most important resource of information about Ubuntu in this language. We are a very heterogeneus and varied group of people focused on spreading the free software philosophy, specially Ubuntu, and have several projects in mind that will be carried out by our different workgroups in the near future.
03:52   jono    can I just say that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CatalanTeam/ApprovalApplication is the finest example of an approval application seen yet in the project
03:52   jono    well done
03:52   rafael_carreras thanks
03:53   Seveas  jono, whoops, thought i didn't see rafael
03:53   mako    ok wait...
03:53   mako    i'm getting really confused
03:55   dholbach        let's stay at the catalan team now
03:55   sabdfl  mako:  happens to me quite often too
03:55   mako    i just got done reading through the stuff on the argentine team
03:56   beuno   mako: Catalan team is up first, we got confused
03:56   mako    alright
03:56   dholbach        the team seems to be up and running quite well - lots of people on the mailing list and nice wiki pages as well
03:56   jono    ok catalan
03:56   mako    dholbach: the catalan team?
03:56   dholbach        yes
03:56   jono    I think the team seems to be doing excellent work
03:56   jsgotangco      i am not to familiar with catalan or its history, but from what i understand this is a team composed of people using catalan the language so its possible to have members in spain, france and italy?
03:56   mako    alright, we're doing the catalan team, in case anyone else is confused
03:57   sabdfl  this is pretty fantastic - i love the fact that there is participation from cultural, artistic, development, linguisitic and educational sources
03:57   alex_muntada    jsgotangco: that's right
03:57   jsgotangco      this is very intereting
03:57   dholbach        https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CatalanTeam/En says "Define activities and objectives." on your TODO list - rafael_carreras: do you have any plans for the next weeks and months?
03:57   jono    oh
03:58   rafael_carreras next Sunday we wil have an install--party
03:58   jono    so this is about the catalan language?
03:58   alex_muntada    dholbach: this is the roadmap, in english https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CatalanTeam/ApprovalApplication#head-894924807cb56c0fdfc7c58a49b8de0cf68b5c73
03:58   mako    jono: agreed completely
03:58   sabdfl  it's very exciting to see this level of activity in the region, two and 1/2 years after our Mataro distro summit :-)
03:58   mako    this is a fantastic application
03:58   alex_muntada    jono: what do you mean exactly?
03:59   sabdfl  +1 from me, and congratulations to the team leaders on doing such a fantastic job of building a diverse community
03:59   jsgotangco      "buntu Catalan User community gathers Catalan-speaking users of Ubuntu in all its varieties. The scope of the Catalan LoCo Team is mainly [WWW]  the Catalan Countries, that is, the territories where Catalan is traditionally spoken, where members and volunteers are spread practically all over their geography."
03:59   dholbach        alex_muntada: thanks - it looks great
03:59   jono    I am keen to see loco teams based mainly on a country or state, and then those teams to come together to form language coalitions
03:59   mako    i have been considering moving to barcelona for a bit, this is increasingly my desire to do so :)
03:59   jono    is this team for a specific country?
04:00   Seveas  jono, a specific region
04:00   rafael_carreras mako: wellcom, then :-)
04:00   alex_muntada    jono: no, there's no Catalan country... it's about Catalan Countries
04:00   jsgotangco      Spain, Italy, France, Andorra
04:00   alex_muntada    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_countries
04:00   toniher_uni     hi mako! I see you liked Vilanova
04:00   jono    alex_muntada: right, so this team spans a number of countries
04:00   jsgotangco      (or areas where catalan is spoken that is)
04:00   toniher_uni     Hi all
04:00   MikeB-  Northern Spain and Southern France mostly, I think
04:00   carlesoriol     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_Countries
04:01   alex_muntada    jono: that's it... i.e. in Andorra the official language is Catalan
04:01   jono    right
04:01   mako    the ultimate sign of a great team is that makes people want to move to their community to participate, +1 from me :)
04:01   dholbach        +1 from me too - your team is amazing
04:01   jsgotangco      it is a fantastic concept +1 from me
04:01   jono    I vote a +1, the team is clearly doing excellent work
04:01   Seveas  jono, you can't vote :)
04:01   jono    and setting a standard for approval applications
04:01   rafael_carreras thanks a lot!
04:01   jono    Seveas: not officially, but anyone can weigh in
04:01   MikeB-  +1 from me, your are setting a fantastic example for other LoCos
04:01   sabdfl  rafael_carreras: it would be amazing if you guys could write up a 1-page summary of how you inspire your team, which we could share with the rest of the comunityvia Ubuntu Weekly News
=== mako nods to sabdfl
04:02   rafael_carreras sabdfl: ok
04:02   mako    i think a lot of other teams can learn a lot from you
04:02   beuno   rafael_carreras: get in touch with me for that, we have a "special edition" on LoCos
=== loudmouthman has taken notes already
04:02   rafael_carreras beuno: got it
04:03   beuno   *we can have, that is
04:04   mako    beuno: ok, i guess you're up now, but we have your blurb from last time
04:04   beuno   mako: want me to paste it in again?
04:06   mako    no, no, i don't thnk that's necessary
04:07   mako    beuno: so you've been active for roughly 6 months now, it seems
04:07   jsgotangco      bueno: how many active members are there from the LP's 100 listed
04:07   jono    argentina team looks good, good to see regular meetings and different activities
04:07   jono    healthy membership
04:07   mako    reasongly consistent traffic on the list, good site
04:07   dholbach        the forum and mailing list look quite active - how's the "Support network for beginners" coming along?
=== mako nods to jono
04:07   beuno   mako: the team was created in September 2006, and it took a few months to start getting our resources together
=== mako nods to beuno
04:08   beuno   jsgotangco: I'd say around 30ish
04:08   beuno   shawarma: Support for beginners is our #1 activity on there
04:08   sabdfl  that;s not bad
04:08   dholbach        do you use a wiki for support answers? or a mailing list for questions?
04:08   sabdfl  i see the team is moderated - what criteria do you apply to allow people into the team?
04:08   beuno   we have around 10 or 12 VERY active members
04:09   beuno   dholbach: we answer on a case-by-case basis on botht he forum and mailing list
04:09   beuno   sabdfl: the team is moderated mainly just to be able to know new members when they arrive, no special requierements
04:10   beuno   I like to great them :D
04:10   sabdfl  ok
04:10   sabdfl  nice to see you using the mentorship piece in LP :-)
04:10   beuno   we've been growing pretty fast the past few months, many new members each week all over the country
04:10   sabdfl  and the web site is very slick
04:11   sabdfl  also, martin is doing amazing work on UWN
04:11   sabdfl  so, all in all, +1 from me
04:11   beuno   sabdfl: I'm trying to teach everyone to use Launchpad, I'm holding a session for everyone in the LoCo in a few weeks
04:11   beuno   sabdfl: thanks, boredandblogging, which is up for membership now has had a lot to do with that :D
04:12   beuno   a lot of the LoCo members are here right now watching, maybe they can speak up?
04:12   jsgotangco      good idea
04:12   eternal1d1      hi
04:12   marianom        Hi there. Mariano here, I'm with the Argentina Team too
04:12   spg76   hello everyone
04:12   duckman hi!
04:12   jmorelli        Hello, thanks Ubuntu, !!!
=== beuno marianom is one of our mosta ctive members
04:12   lavaramano      hi there
04:12   eternal1d1      hi, my name is Diego, I'm from the Argentina Locoteam
04:12   duckman here from the arg team =)
04:12   mlt     hi :)
04:13   sabdfl  welcome all
04:13   dholbach        hello Argentina! :-)
04:13   sabdfl  and great work!
04:13   lavaramano      arg member here
04:13   Florencia       Ffrom the Argentina Team
04:13   mlt     thanks sabdfl
04:13   sabdfl  anybody else from the CC care to weigh in?
04:13   jsgotangco      great to see everyone, +1 from me, i just want to ask, any major event the loco would be invoved with
04:13   mako    +1 from me as well
04:13   dholbach        +1 from me - well done everybody in the Argentina team
04:14   MikeB-  +1 here
04:14   dudanogueira    bueno, im from the ubuntu-br loco, we can exchange some ideas :) feel free to contact us :)
04:14   sabdfl  alrighty
04:14   beuno   jsgotangco: yes, we participated in the Flisol event (Instalfest all over latin america), and installed Ubuntu on close to 100 PCs
04:15   beuno   right, thanks sabdfl, mako, MikeB-, jsgotangco
04:15   duckman thanks for the membership!
04:16   lipe_   thanks!!
04:16   beuno   dudanogueira: will get in touch with you, thanks
04:14   Seveas  Membership candidates
04:14   Seveas  We have 9 of them this time
04:15   sabdfl  is everyone on the list, here?
04:15   Seveas  boredandblogging, you're the first (Tm_T and nealcmb are missing)
04:15   boredandblogging        ok...
04:15   boredandblogging        Hi, I'm Nick. I've been a linux user on and off for about 10 years. I've been using Ubuntu exclusively since Breezy. I started getting involved in the Ubuntu community at the beginning of this year. I've been helping the Georgia US LoCo get started and helping out as much as I can on the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter (it was Corey Burger's idea for me to apply for membership). And recently I've started working on the LoCo h
04:15   boredandblogging        osting admin team. My wiki page is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NickAli
04:16   Vorian  boredandblogging, has done tremendous work for the Marketing Team, his loco team in Georgia (US) and the US teams project.  He is a diamond in the rough!
=== nixternal recognizes boredandblogging as da bomb! :)
04:17   atoponce        i'm here to show my support for boredandblogging in building the GA LoCo team. he knows what he's doing, and is very active.
=== beuno is behind boredandblogging 100%, he's been doing all the heavy lifting for UWN
04:16   slackwarelife   I'm Massimo, my launchpad id https://launchpad.net/~slackwarelife,   I started with linux 5 years ago. Thanks
04:17   dholbach        slackwarelife: hang on, it's still boredandblogging's turn
04:17   Seveas  slackwarelife, please wait your turn
04:17   jsgotangco      wiki is very informative and shows sustained contribution in UWN and documentation
04:17   slackwarelife   dholbach: ok, sorry :-[
04:17   MikeB-  boredandblogging: where at in Georgia
04:17   boredandblogging        :-)
04:17   dholbach        boredandblogging: nice wiki page
04:18   boredandblogging        MikeB-, suburbs of Atlanta, Smyrna
04:18   nixternal       CC: There isn't much boredandblogging and hasn't helped out with around here when it comes to the marketing team and with the US LoCo Teams! He is my hero, well jsgotangco is my hero, so boredandblogging would be #2 ;p
04:18   boredandblogging        nixternal, lol
04:18   nixternal       enjoy my wonderful abuse of the english language
04:18   MikeB-  boredandblogging: cool, I'm an old member of Athens CHUGALUG
04:19   boredandblogging        MikeB-, the guy who started the Georgia LoCo is a member of CHUGALUG
=== nixternal used to live in Snellville
04:19   Zelut   When I traveled to GA a few weeks ago boredandblogging setup a meet between myself and some of the team.  It was really productive I think.
04:19   Vorian  CC: Since I met boredandblogging, he has done nothing but volunteer for projects, and see them through.  He is also too modest to tell you he is a LoCo website admin appointed by the great newz2000 himself.
04:20   MikeB-  boredandblogging also does great work on the Forums
04:20   MikeB-  definitely a +1 from me
04:20   jsgotangco      I am happy to give my +1 as he is very much involved in almost all facets of community as well as the testimonials presented
04:20   jsgotangco      (seems to be long overdue even)
=== atoponce nods
04:21   Vorian  jsgotangco, true true :)
04:22   jsgotangco      others?
04:22   Seveas  how many +1s do we need?
=== mako still looking
04:22   Vorian  the other CC members are in awe of boredandblogging
04:23   Seveas  we have 8 CC members, is 4 +1s enough, or do we want 5?
04:23   mako    yes, this looks fine +1 from me
04:23   dudanogueira    im here :P
04:23   mako    Seveas: you should definitely have a majority of those present
04:23   mako    Seveas: and ideally a majority of the council
04:23   MikeB-  Seveas: I assume a majority
04:24   jsgotangco      point of order: a majority of the council would mean 5 members that means at least 5 should be present in every meeting
04:24   Seveas  we have 7 present so we need 4
04:26   dholbach        Seveas: we have 6 present, no?
04:26   dholbach        jsgotangco: yes, we should have 5 in every meeting - that's how I see it too
04:26   mako    jsgotangco: yes, that makes sense
04:27   MikeB-  corey and matthew are out
04:27   dholbach        I'm happy with boredandblogging has worked on until now, so he has my +1 too
04:28   elmo    +1
04:28   mako    +1 for board and blogging
04:28   mako    if i iddn't already
04:29   Vorian  w00t! congrats boredandblogging!!!!!
04:29   alins   com ha anat?
04:29   boredandblogging        wohoo! thanks
04:29   Seveas  dholbach, ah, sorry
04:29   Seveas  boredandblogging now has +4
04:29   Seveas  sabdfl, elmo ?
04:29   Zelut   boredandblogging: welcome
04:29   etank   good job boredandblogging
04:29   elmo    Seveas: I already voted
04:29   elmo    15:28 < elmo> +1
04:29   dholbach        Seveas: np
04:29   atoponce        boredandblogging: congrats
04:29   Vorian  Seveas, he has 5 +1's
04:30   Seveas  elmo, one of us is lagging, I saw your vote after my call :)
04:30   MikeB-  boredandblogging: congrats
04:30   boredandblogging        thanks everyone
04:30   Seveas  anyway, congrats boredandblogging
04:30   alex_muntada    alins was asking if the catalan team was approved... alins: yes!
04:30   Vorian  well deserved boredandblogging :)
04:30   Seveas  dudanogueira, you're up
04:30   dudanogueira    ok!
04:31   sabdfl  welcome, boredandblogging
04:31   dudanogueira    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DudaNogueira
04:31   mako    i might have to disappear in half an hour
04:31   boredandblogging        sabdfl, thanks
04:31   dudanogueira    im spreading the ubuntu all over i can.
04:32   sabdfl  i have to switch to a conf call, so please keep going without me, will read scrollback
04:32   dudanogueira    I'm an active member of ubuntu-br-mg, and also working to expand the Ubuntu Spirit for all over the MG state and, if possible, all over my country. My focus is on something i call "Users Profile Documentation", participating and organizing events (mainly in br-mg) and new users support.
04:32   mako    MG is minas gerais?
04:32   dudanogueira    mako, yeah!
04:32   Seveas  I'm disappearing noe
04:32   Seveas  now*
04:32   jsgotangco      thanks Seveas
04:33   Seveas  will do lp/wiki duties later
04:33   mako    Seveas: thanks!
04:33   dudanogueira    the most two active loco teams here in BR are MG (licio and me) and BA (Alexandro Silva and Fabio Nogueira)
04:33   dholbach        thanks a lot Seveas
04:33   mako    dudanogueira: MG is also one of the most populous states, right?
04:34   mako    are you in belo horizonte?
04:34   dudanogueira    mako on, SP is. we are the thrid ot second most popular
04:34   dudanogueira    mako no, SP...
04:34   mako    and are things centered around bh? i see it's a very large state
04:34   dudanogueira    yes, im in belo horizonte
04:35   dudanogueira    mako, Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro is the "center" of brazil. but they loco isnt so strong
04:35   jwendell        i confirm the great job dudanogueira is doing. He's very active on IRC also, by helping people
04:36   mako    dudanogueira: i like the start you've gotten to on some of your wiki pages
04:37   jsgotangco      how active the ubuntu locos are during FISL? i see a jono pic heh
04:37   dudanogueira    mako, my next plan is to help the guys of the ubuntu games. theres a very a mount of infos, but all in english. games is very important to catch kids attention. On FISL, when we did a local lan a lot of kids was amazed with the cool games
04:38   dudanogueira    jsgotangco, ubuntu here is growing fast. on FISL i can say that we were the most active user groups, and more active then lot of commercial stands
04:38   dudanogueira    (sorry about the bad english :P)
04:38   dudanogueira    a lot of people asking for help, cds, fotos, sticks every time!
04:39   mako    i see you have testimonials on your page
04:39   mako    is anyone here to cheer for dudanogueira?
04:39   dudanogueira    jwendell, and licio, but licio is on a meeting on his work, and should be back in few minutes
04:39   dudanogueira    the other guys coudnt be here now, but let their testimonials
04:39   jwendell        mako, i confirm the great job dudanogueira is doing. He's very active on IRC also, by helping people
04:39   mako    alright
=== mako is fine with +1
04:40   mako    you've a good deal of visible activity that goes back well into last year
=== jsgotangco gives his +1 as well
04:40   mako    the documentation for some of it could be better, but with a little digging there's a pretty consistent and i suspect sustainable contribution
04:40   mako    that i think makes a real difference
04:40   mako    especially in your loco
04:40   MikeB-  +1, great work
04:41   dudanogueira    mako, im good with interviews and all. on FISL i talked for the main TV Station as the a community member
04:41   dholbach        +1 from me too
04:42   jsgotangco      ok looks good then
04:42   dholbach        elmo?
04:42   jsgotangco      elmo?
04:42   jsgotangco      :D
04:42   mako    who's up next
04:42   mako    i turn into a pumpkin soon
04:42   elmo    +1
04:42   jsgotangco      ok DPic
04:42   dudanogueira    right now im unemployed (on my own) and working with a UFMG project. last week i installed ubuntu on 20 pcs on their lab, and will continue into the secretary area
04:42   jsgotangco      welcome dudanogueira!
04:42   dudanogueira    UFMG == Federal College
04:42   jwendell        congrats, and welcome, dudanogueira
04:42   Belutz  jsgotangco, hi... and congrats :D
04:42   dudanogueira    greaaaat!
04:42   nealmcb I"m sorry I missed my spot earlier, but am ready any time.
04:42   mako    Dpic?
04:42   dholbach        congratulations dudanogueira
04:43   mako    Danny Piccirillo?
04:43   MikeB-  congrats dudanogueira
04:43   jsgotangco      seems not here
04:43   dudanogueira    thank you all! Soon i'll be here again asking for a maling for the ubuntu games and sharing some other news :)
04:43   mako    ok, moving on
04:43   mako    the ominimously named, slackwarelife...
04:43   jsgotangco      lol
04:43   slackwarelife   I'm Massimo, I'm a Italian lan admin, I work in a Banck and I have started to use linux 5 years ago with Red Had. After I met Slackware using server and there was a big love. Now I'm helping in launchpad answer (I'm a member of Ubuntu support team) and I try to manager some bug. This is my wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Slackwarelife (The first part in Italian, the second in English). Sorry for my Engl
04:44   slackwarelife   I write this before, hi all
04:44   mako    is it possible to grant membership on the condition of a nick change ;)
04:44   dholbach        hehe
04:44   jsgotangco      lol
04:44   mako    nah, slackware was my first too :)
04:44   dholbach        what about bddebian then? ;-)
04:45   mako    my first love.. the only problem was finding 50 floppy disks :)
04:45   dudanogueira    slackware, as jono saw, is a very strong community here in brazil nowdays
04:45   jono    indeed
04:45   dholbach        slackwarelife: you are quite busy on the answers tracker it seem
04:45   slackwarelife   mako: I start with Slack my linux experience, I love it too
04:45   jsgotangco      impressive karma
04:45   jsgotangco      19205 in answer tracker
04:46   mako    this is true, almost all answers
04:46   slackwarelife   dholbach: I like to help who I can
04:46   jsgotangco      but there has been a flurry of activity yetersday
04:46   mako    slackwarelife: you seem to do a pretty impressive job of it :)
04:46   mako    slackwarelife: how long have you been involved in ubuntu?
04:46   slackwarelife   mako: I do all I can. Yesterd my wark was very big
04:47   slackwarelife   mako 3 weeks
04:47   mako    slackwarelife: ok, i'm going to ask that you come back in a couple months
04:47   mako    slackwarelife: the requirement for membership is significant and sustained contributions
04:47   mako    you've got hte first part, but not the second yet
04:47   mako    i presonally like to see at least 3 months of contributions to the project
04:48   mako    we want members to people who have put in a long term invement and gotten to know people, etc etc
04:48   slackwarelife   mako: ok, I understand
04:48   mako    slackwarelife: so my advice would be, KEEP IT UP! :)
04:48   mako    you're doing a great job
04:49   dholbach        slackwarelife: I'm very happy to see you helping out with answers and bugs, but I agree with mako.
04:49   mako    lets see you in a couple months and, if your history is any indiciation, it will be a very easy decision :)
04:49   mako    slackwarelife: cool, see you soon!
04:49   mako    Knightlust: you around?
04:49   Knightlust      My name is Dax Solomon Umaming. Been using Ubuntu since 2005 (Hoary). I'm most involved in advocacy. Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DaxSolomonUmaming Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~knightlust
04:49   jsgotangco      same here, keep up those answer tracker performance
04:50   mako    Knightlust: if your full name really Dax Solomon Umaming?
04:50   Knightlust      yes
04:50   mako    because i have to say, that's the coolest name ever :)
04:50   jsgotangco      lol
04:51   mako    Knightlust: you're lucky
04:51   Knightlust      mako: my dad's a hippie, that;s why
04:51   mako    i get stuck with the Benny Hill's name.. you don't want to know about my father ;)
=== Jucato cheers for Knightlust's local FOSS advocacy and training projects
04:51   kjcole  We had a guy working here named DejaVu Harmony...  Seriously.
04:52   dholbach        Knightlust: it seems you're involved in a lot of different Launchpad teams - what have you been focusing on?
04:52   jsgotangco      Knightlust: coming from Baguio city, i am not surprised
04:52   `23meg  kjcole, that's more like a font name :)
04:52   Knightlust      kubuntu a few months and laptop. but now i'm really into xubuntu and edubuntu
04:53   Knightlust      well mostly xfce on edubuntu
04:53   jsgotangco      can you elaborate more on your community contribution?
04:53   dholbach        Knightlust: did you chat with ogra and janimo/gpocentek already?
04:54   Knightlust      I'm now involved with the government of baguio. we'll be installing LTSP on edubuntu in the next few months
04:54   Knightlust      elections in the philippines, got it easy with the politicians
=== dudanogueira need to go. Thank you all!
04:54   Knightlust      dholbach: not yet
04:55   jsgotangco      "got it easy with politicians" ?
04:55   Knightlust      i actually got back from a talk. engineering society of saint louis university, 2 hours talk a while ago
04:56   ogra    Knightlust, oh, i'd appreciate if someone could care for the xfce stuff we have on the edubuntu addon CD now :)
04:56   Knightlust      jsgotangco: it's easy convincing them, they need my vote
04:56   ogra    feel free to pop in to #edubuntu at any time :)
04:56   Knightlust      will do ogra
04:56   ogra    :)
04:56   jsgotangco      Knightlust: i am not sure I'd like to take that in a nice way
04:57   sabdfl  +1 from me, belatedly, for dudanoguiera, for contributions to the IRC, lists and local team building
04:57   Knightlust      hehe, well, they love to take credit for it. and Gov. Domogan loved the idea
04:58   sabdfl  mako: which TZ are you in?
04:59   sabdfl  +1 from me for slackwarelife, on the back of a superb contribution to community support and QA
05:00   sabdfl  oh, noting the 3 week track record, support the suggestion to come back in a month or so
05:00   mako    sabdfl: utc-4
05:00   slackwarelife   sabdfl: thanks, but i understand mako's idea
05:00   Belutz  jsgotangco, have a time to chat? :)
05:01   jsgotangco      Belutz: feel free to PM
05:01   Belutz  jsgotangco, ok
=== BenC muscles in for the kernel team meeting
=== Belutz praise sabdfl :D
05:01   MikeB-  +1 for me Knightlust, if it is not too late, seem to be lagging
05:01   mako    no, we didn't decide on Knightlust
05:01   BenC    you guys take your time though, we have a light agenda
05:02   mako    at least lets finish with Knightlust
05:02   sabdfl  Knightlust: how long have you been contributing to the project?
05:02   mako    Knightlust: are you associated with a loco?
05:03   Knightlust      since January 2007, but my previous work at a call center, its' 2 years but not really focused into Ubuntu
05:03   Knightlust      in our call center, we focus on all distros.. mako: ubuntu-ph
05:05   jsgotangco      well what i can say about Knightlust is that he has been very enthusiastic on helping out to organizations that need some sort of orientation towards ubuntu or free software
05:05   dholbach        it seems that most of your advocacy actions will be in the next weeks
05:06   jsgotangco      that as well
05:06   jsgotangco      from what I know, he has been pretty involved in having good webcam support
=== mako nods jsgotangco
05:07   dholbach        Knightlust: have you been involved with ubuntu-ph for your advocacy work?
05:08   Knightlust      yes, my work at our lady of lourdes college
05:09   dholbach        have you been working together with other team members for the presentations?
05:10   Knightlust      dholbach: no, i got them mostly from the research and the presentation wiki
05:10   mako    dholbach: yeah,  that's what i'm trying to get at
05:10   mako    you've obviously done great work
05:11   sabdfl  +1 from me for knightlust
05:12   MikeB-  +1 for knightlust
05:12   mako    yeah +1 fro mme
05:12   jsgotangco      i would give my +1 as well as I've seen him take action effectively, but am not sure about the politicians thing ;-)
05:12   mako    Knightlust: but i think your work will benefit from hooking up with others more frequently
05:13   mako    jsgotangco: we can each have our own battles :)
05:13   dholbach        +1 from me too
05:13   Knightlust      mako, will do that
05:13   mako    since there's another meeting scheduled here, it might be worth postponing the last two on the list
05:13   jsgotangco      i just don't like the idea, we just had our elections yesterday, and its not really a pretty sight
05:13   Daviey  mako, :(
05:13   nealmcb :(
05:13   dholbach        and it'd be nice to hear how your presentations go
05:13   `23meg  :( indeed
05:13   Knightlust      thanks all
05:14   mako    Daviey and `23meg, i guess that's you
05:14   `23meg  yep :)
05:14   nealmcb Again, sorry to miss my spot earlier - it's early here....
05:14   jsgotangco      and nealmcb
05:14   Daviey  mako, one of my supporters has made a special effort to be here - late for a new job! :(
05:14   mako    well, you'll be first next time :)
05:14   mako    Daviey: we're already 15 minutes into another meetings time
05:14   `23meg  I think the kernel team isn't in much hurry
05:14   kjcole  Ta-ta then...
05:14   superm1 BenC, would it be okay to at least squeeze one more?
05:15   mako    superm1: two more, and with our current timing that might be half an hour
05:15   BenC    I think we can do with 30 minutes for our meeting, just wondering if there's anyone waiting for it besides the ones that are paid to :)
05:15   zul     me but I can wait
05:16   mbt     Same here.  I just like to watch.  :)
05:16   superm1 me, i'm a bit late for work in trying to wait on this -
05:17   BenC    How about this, I'll move kernel team meeting to #ubuntu-kernel, you guys finish up with CC, that's more important
05:17   mako    BenC: ok
05:17   mako    BenC: thanks for being accomidating
05:17   BenC    no problem
05:18   mako    `23meg: go, quickly
05:18   `23meg  Hello. I'm a 26 year old hybrid of a freelance designer, graduate student and starving artist living in stanbul, Turkey. I've been using Ubuntu full time since the mid-Warty period, and my most significant contributions have been providing support and writing guides in the forums, where I signed up in March 2005, and doing translations in Rosetta. I'm also one of the leaders of the newly formed Forum Ambassadors team, which is working
05:18   `23meg  on improving the connection between the forums and the rest of the community.
05:18   mako    i need to disappear in -15 minutes
05:18   `23meg  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MuratGunes
05:19   jsgotangco      any forum ambassadors advocating for `23meg
05:19   mako    holy crap, that's a lot of posts to the forums
05:19   `23meg  :)
05:19   MikeB-  I would like to say that 23meg is one of the true leader in the forums. He does a fantastic job there
05:19   dholbach        mako: yeah, definitely agreed
05:20   mako    `23meg: i'm impressed with the bredth of your contributions, and with the depth of your work in the forums
05:20   dholbach        `23meg: you want to join the MOTUs? anything you'd like to work on?
05:20   mako    any other testimonials?
=== PriceChild cheers for `23meg about work on the forums.
05:21   Hobbsee from what i see, doing a bit fo FA stuff, he seems pretty clueful
05:21   PriceChild      Very active member, helpful :)
05:21   mako    or other people from the forums that can speak to the nature of `23meg's contributions as a hole
05:21   jsgotangco      "hole"
05:21   nealmcb sounds more like a mountain than a hole
05:22   mako    whole, whole
05:22   `23meg  dholbach, I'm planning to look into stuff missing from Universe that gets popular requests in the forums; whatever part of it I can maintain
05:23   dholbach        `23meg: let me know how your way into MOTU goes :-)
05:23   sabdfl  +1 from me for `23meg on forums contribution!
05:23   `23meg  dholbach, will do :)
=== jsgotangco is happy to vote +1 as well for forum leadership and contribs
05:23   dholbach        +1 from me too
05:23   MikeB-  +1 for me, only because I can't give a +2 or more
05:23   dholbach        MikeB-: hehe
05:23   `23meg  :) thanks everyone.
05:24   Daviey  me?
05:24   mako    well +1 from me, not a hard decisoin
05:24   mako    Daviey: yes, you're up
05:24   sabdfl  Daviey: fire away :-)
05:24   Daviey  Hi, I'm Dave Walker and i would like to be considered to become a Ubuntu Member.  My wikipage is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/davewalker .  I'm currently involved mainly with the Mythtv for Ubuntu and actively contribute to my LoCo (Ubuntu-uk).  Currently I'm No2 contributor to #ubuntu-uk (I'm sure popey is a bot).   I also contribute towards advocacy towards FOSS with my highlight being a recent letter being printed in a UK national newspaper.
05:24   nealmcb mako: and if there is time, me also?
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05:24   Daviey  Everything else should be on the wiki :)
05:25   Daviey  popey couldn't be here, but sang a song for me (scroll up)
05:25   mako    nealmcb: we'll see
05:25   mako    popey: i saw it
05:25   MikeB-  Daviey: I saw it
05:25   mako    sorry, Daviey i aw it
05:25   loudmouthman    And the Loudmouthman chimes in with Daviey is a fine addition and exemplary community member to the UK and UK irc group.
05:26   Daviey  (and the UK in general) :)
05:26   mako    anyone else from the uk loco
05:26   superm1 Daviey has been a great help with the -mythtv team and newly starting mythbuntu team as well
05:26   dholbach        Daviey: you're part of ubuntu universe contributors? what have you been up to? also the BugSquad - how did it go in there?
05:26   Daviey  mako, I think only popey and loudmouthman are aware I'm standing
=== loudmouthman looks at Daviey, funny I thought you were in a chair, hmm okay !
05:27   loudmouthman    whoops wrong channel !
05:27   superm1 these last few months he's in the channel as much as possible helping out with support to users coming in and providing more ideas for the team
05:27   Daviey  dholbach, At this stage i have only contributed one package of my own work, but have worked on joint efforts for some other packages
05:28   dholbach        Daviey: great, which one is that? have you helped out with reviewing or how have the joint efforts worked out?
05:28   Daviey  dholbach, There is a link at the bottom of the wiki to the package.
05:29   dholbach        ah ok
05:29   dholbach        what about the bugsquad? what did you do in there? did you find it easy to contribute?
05:29   Daviey  not at all!  It can be quite difficult the interact with the bugreporter
05:30   Daviey  Especially trying to get dumps and other crash reports from users
05:32   mako    well, you've done a wide variety of different types of work and have been around and active for a long time
05:32   sabdfl  Daviey: do you have any feedback on tools we can build to improve that, for example, apport?
05:32   mako    i'm happy with membership, +1 from me
05:32   superm1 Daviey,  has been quite instrumental in mythbuntu's start, and managed to go the extra mile in getting us our domain.  He ended up having to phone someone half way across the world who had already purchased it, and got him to join our team. (you can see the site in the works at www.mythbuntu.org )
05:32   X3N     I love Daviey
05:33   Daviey  sabdfl, certainly - i think if amport could be interactive
05:33   sabdfl  and could you give us a quick status report on mythbuntu?
05:33   Daviey  sabdfl, i suspect there are triagers who are happy to man 1-1 at inital report... We are a big enough community with timezones and such
05:33   superm1 atm we have an alpha ready
05:33   superm1 that works as a live cd frontend
05:33   superm1 and a basic frontend/backend installation
05:34   superm1 what remains is a lot of work to the installer
05:34   superm1 to handle the different types of installations
05:34   Daviey  sabdfl, we do have an alpha image avaliable - currently our next task is to get a grip on ubiquity installer
05:35   dholbach        Daviey: you also seem to be quite interested in asterisk - do you think there's anything we could improve there?
05:35   Daviey  dholbach, definitely - we need FreePBX in universe
05:35   dholbach        Daviey: it'd be nice to have a ubuntu-voip team taking care of that
05:35   Daviey  That is on my todo list of packages for MOTU
05:36   Daviey  dholbach, that's definitely a team i'd like to join.  Myth team might not like me sharing resources tho :)
05:36   superm1 :)
05:36   sabdfl  +1 from me for Daviey
05:37   jsgotangco      +1 from me as well for Daviey
05:37   dholbach        +1 from me too - it'd be nice to have your input for a ubuntu-voip team :)
05:37   Daviey  dholbach, also UDS seville VOIP improvements :)
05:38   MikeB-  +1 for me
05:39   Burgundavia     anybody working on asterisk is a +1 from me :)
05:39   dholbach        nealmcb: still around?
05:39   Daviey  Wooo... thanks guys!  And especially thanks to superm1 for making himself late for work to say what he did
05:39   dholbach        are you the last on our list?
05:39   nealmcb yup
05:40   nealmcb I woke up a bit late...
05:40   superm1 congrats Daviey .  catch up with you later
05:40   loudmouthman    Congrats Daviey
05:40   sabdfl  i have to step afk, good luck nealmcb, welcome aboard Daviey
05:40   nealmcb I'm Neal McBurnett.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NealMcBurnett   I've been an Ubuntu user, promoter, contributor and distributor since the first release in 2004, on servers and desktops, for myself and several non-profit organizations. I've been active with *nix since 1977 (at Bell Labs) and have never had Windoze on my desktop.
05:40   nealmcb if there's time...
05:40   Daviey  thanks sabdfl and cc
05:40   jsgotangco      1977! I was just 3 years old!
05:40   nealmcb I know you want to go, mako....
05:41   nealmcb jsgotangco: :-)
05:41   mako    nealmcb: it's fine. i brought my laptop to the meeting :)
05:41   nealmcb I've been active in the Colorado LoCo, having helped Joey start it a year ago.  I've edited a bunch of wiki pages, authored the identity-selector spec and commented on others.  Some examples are linked to from my wiki page.
05:41   nealmcb I'm now working on an Ubucon for Colorado, having helped organize two Barcamps, and beginning to get my feet wet with code contributions via bzr and Launchpad. I'd like to also use my enterprise Linux/Solaris experience from Internet2 and Bell Labs to contribute to the NetworkAuthentication efforts.  And I'm hoping to participate in a Colorado education conference where one of our members is presenting an Ubuntu demo: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/TIE
05:42   nealmcb What I didn't do was get testimonials from joey stanford, nixternal, ajmitch or some others I can think of
05:42   nealmcb I've been "slow but steady" in my contributions....
05:44   jsgotangco      anyone from the colorado team at the moment?
05:45   mako    it looks grewat
05:45   mako    but i would really like to hear from some people in your loco if that's where you locate most of your contributions
05:45   nealmcb On his page, joey says "These folks are worth getting to know.    Neal McBurnett - Invented the Internet and speaks Esperanto  "
05:46   nealmcb He looked my page over and gave me advice but I forgot to ask him for a testimonial....
05:46   dholbach        ajmitch might be well sleep now
05:46   Burgundavia     indeed
05:47   Burgundavia     nealmcb: any esperanto people here to comment on that translation work?
05:47   nealmcb Mi dubas... :-)
05:47   nealmcb I doubt it
05:47   dholbach        nealmcb: you're involved in a lof of specifications - are there any where you'd like to get involved in?
05:47   nealmcb The network auth area is the place
05:48   Burgundavia     I see you contributed code to n-a
05:48   nealmcb See e.g. my spec for identity-selector (above)
05:48   Burgundavia     anything else aside from the linked code?
05:48   nealmcb Not yet in n-a
05:49   Burgundavia     hmm, not having any endorsements makes it hard to judge
05:49   nealmcb ajmitch included it, but it was just better doc for the README :-)
=== nealmcb nods
05:49   mako    nealmcb: why don't you just have the loco people send testimonials
05:49   mako    i'm happy to make a decision by email
05:49   nealmcb :-)
05:49   dholbach        and the network-authentication people too
05:49   mako    i don't suspect it will be problematic
05:49   mako    right
05:50   Burgundavia     that works for me as well
05:50   jsgotangco      same here should be easy enough
05:50   dholbach        yeah, I'm happy with that too
05:50   nealmcb mail to who?
05:50   mako    nealmcb: just have folks email community-council@lists.ubuntu.com
05:50   jsgotangco      (not to mention i gotta crash as well)
05:50   mako    yeah, this meeting has gone on too long
05:50   nealmcb will do - thanks - I'll let you go....
05:50   mako    thanks everyone
05:50   dholbach        thanks a lot nealmcb
05:50   mako    one last thing
05:50   dholbach        thanks
05:50   mako    next meeting
05:50   mako    two weeks from today, how about a bit later
05:50   mako    22UTC, lets say?
05:50   Burgundavia     that works
05:51   jsgotangco      should work for me if i get up early
05:51   mako    5/29 22UTC
05:51   dholbach        20 utc maybe? else it will be ~2-3 in the morning for me when the meeting finishes :)
05:51   mako    sounds good
05:51   mako    dholbach: 2 hours meeting
05:51   mako    i think we should get facist about this
05:51   dholbach        so 2 in the morning, when it finishes
05:51   mako    especially now that we're just a much larger group
05:51   mako    ok
05:52   mako    can 21UTC work?
05:52   dholbach        wfm
05:52   jsgotangco      ok not bad i will still be able to do my morning run
05:52   mako    dholbach: the whole point is to make it possible for different group
05:52   dholbach        yeah
05:52   mako    dholbach: like west coast users
05:52   dholbach        right
05:52   mako    USers
05:52   mako    not users
05:52   MikeB-  21 or 22 UTC works for me
05:53   jsgotangco      holy cow that's 5am for me heh we'll see
05:53   mako    alright, i'll mail seveas
05:53   mako    jsgotangco: yeah, you don't have to make it :)
05:53   mako    that's why we're a big group
05:53   jsgotangco      yup
05:54   mako    so, this is the first meeting with the new council, right?
05:54   jsgotangco      yup
05:54   dholbach        yeah :)
05:54   mako    well, then THANK YOU NEW COUNCIL
05:54   MikeB-  seems to be
05:54   nealmcb Thanks to you all for volunteering!!
05:54   orestesmas      Thank you all from Orestes - CatalanTeam
05:54   rafael_carreras thank you all
05:54   carlesoriol     Many thanks - catalan team
05:54   arualavi        thank you all!
05:54   papapep__       People from CC, many, many thanks from Catalunya -CatalanTeam
05:54   jsgotangco      our pleasure OLD COUNCIL
05:54   jsgotangco      :D
05:54   alex_muntada    thank you all and congrats to new members and teams!
05:54   mako    i think this is a quiet but a major major milestone for the council and for the community more broadly
05:54   MikeB-  thanks mako, and congrats to new Locos and members
05:55   boredandblogging        thanks everyone
05:55   mako    canonical employees are now in a minority on our highest governing board
05:55   jsgotangco      thanks good one
05:55   mako    ;)
05:55   MikeB-  mako: lol
05:55   mako    thanks everyone, see you all next time
05:55   dholbach        :-)
05:55   dholbach        thanks - see you

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