20130825

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Meeting summary

Review last meetings action items

The discussion about "Review last meetings action items" started at 18:06.

Open items in the IRCC tracker

The discussion about "Open items in the IRCC tracker" started at 18:09.

The discussion about "Review Bugs related to the Ubuntu IRC Council" started at 18:10.

Membership applications

The discussion about "Membership applications" started at 18:10.

Any Other Business

The discussion about "Any Other Business" started at 18:10.

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People present (lines said)

  • AlanBell (40)

  • IdleOne (18)

  • Tm_T (6)
  • meetingology (5)
  • bazhang (4)
  • Flannel (3)
  • ikonia (2)
  • DJones (1)

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  • 18:02 <AlanBell> #startmeeting IRC team

    18:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Sun Aug 25 18:02:23 2013 UTC. The chair is AlanBell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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    18:02 <AlanBell> hi, who is here for the IRC team meeting?

    18:03 <Flannel> o/

    18:03 <ikonia> I'm certainly watching

    18:04 <AlanBell> Pici: Tm_T: funkyHat: o/

    18:06 <Tm_T> hi

    18:06 <Tm_T> only partially available, sorry

    18:06 <AlanBell> ok

    18:06 <AlanBell> again, not a heap of stuff on the agenda

    18:06 <AlanBell> #topic Review last meetings action items

    18:07 <IdleOne> o/

    18:08 <AlanBell> last meeting was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/IRCC/20130630 and no actions recorded

    18:09 <AlanBell> but I never got round to doing a list of things the bots say

    18:09 <AlanBell> anyhow, lets move on and come back to new actions because I can think of a few things we need to do

    18:09 <AlanBell> #topic Open items in the IRCC tracker

    18:10 <AlanBell> none in the tracker, there have been no recent formal appeals

    18:10 <AlanBell> #topic Review Bugs related to the Ubuntu IRC Council

    18:10 <AlanBell> no new bugs filed

    18:10 <AlanBell> #topic Membership applications

    18:10 <AlanBell> we have no new membership applications

    18:10 <AlanBell> #topic Any Other Business

    18:10 <AlanBell> gosh that was quick Smile :)

    18:10 <bazhang> not m4v ?

    18:11 <IdleOne> m4v was finnaly approved

    18:11 <AlanBell> m4v is a member now, was approved a few months ago

    18:11 <bazhang> alright

    18:11 <IdleOne> little while ago

    18:11 <AlanBell> cloak and everything Smile :)

    18:11 <IdleOne> there have been no recent formal appeals ?

    18:11 <AlanBell> indeed, there have not

    18:11 <IdleOne> This confuses me

    18:11 <IdleOne> what exactly constitutes a formal appeal?

    18:12 <AlanBell> someone sending us an email with the details of what they want to appeal about

    18:13 <IdleOne> I see

    18:13 <IdleOne> So joining the council channel and making a complaint does not count?

    18:13 <AlanBell> there have been some discussions with users where we have advised them of how to appeal and we let them talk if they want to say their piece

    18:14 <AlanBell> anyone can pop in to the #ubuntu-irc-council for a chat at any time, but an appeal is by email

    18:15 <Tm_T> AlanBell: does appeal process say that?

    18:15 <IdleOne> it should if not

    18:15 <ikonia> if you follow the process it says you should email the council on the list after discussing it with the ops

    18:16 <IdleOne> I haven't read it recently but I recall it saying they can also join the ircc channel. It should be made clear if not

    18:16 <AlanBell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess

    18:17 <AlanBell> there is a bit of an OR in there

    18:17 <IdleOne> there is an either or

    18:17 <IdleOne> I suggest it be cleared up

    18:18 <DJones> On the basis that the purpose of #ubuntu-irc-council has never been explained to me since I was accepted as an op in #ubuntu, what is its purpose? is it a a private channel with no idling or something that #ubuntu* ops should be aware of?

    18:18 <AlanBell> so yes, if people pop in to the channel we do try and sort out what the problem is, but I was generally counting emails as formal appeals

    18:19 <AlanBell> the channel is very rarely used, it is handy if we want to discuss something with someone so that all the council can see discussions rather than having private messages with us as individuals

    18:20 <IdleOne> I am fine with making it email if you want this to be a formal complaint OR join the channel if you want to alert the council to something without it being a huge deal type thing

    18:23 <AlanBell> yeah, that might be good to clarify in the documentation

    18:25 <IdleOne> AlanBell: only because some of us were under the impression there had been a formal complaint made against some of the ops.

    18:25 <IdleOne> least that is what we were told.

    18:26 <IdleOne> Good to know we can continue to abuse our powers without consequence Smile :)

    18:26 <IdleOne> that was a joke, just in case nobody got it.

    18:26 <AlanBell> /kick IdleOne

    18:28 <Tm_T> IdleOne: this is serious business, we don't understand humout

    18:28 <Tm_T> r

    18:29 <bazhang> hummus is welcome though

    18:29 <AlanBell> hmm, something weird going on with my connection Sad :(

    18:29 <IdleOne> Tm_T: plz2email for formal complaint. kthx

    18:29 <bazhang> falafel not included

    18:29 <Tm_T> done

    18:31 <AlanBell> ok, so from that

    18:31 <AlanBell> #action ircc to discuss and clarify what constitutes a formal complaint 18:31 * meetingology ircc to discuss and clarify what constitutes a formal complaint

    18:32 <AlanBell> is there any other other business?

    18:32 <Flannel> AlanBell: You said you had things earlier (at :09)

    18:33 <AlanBell> yup, just we need to do a round of cloak audits for people who are expired or whatever

    18:34 <Flannel> Well, that's not very exciting at all. What are we paying you for?

    18:35 <AlanBell> #action AlanBell to make a list of cloaks to remove as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Cloaks

    18:35 * meetingology AlanBell to make a list of cloaks to remove as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Cloaks

    18:36 <AlanBell> and the other thing to mention is that we had a catchup meeting with the CC about a month ago, I will try and find the logs to link

    18:37 <AlanBell> http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-08-01-17.00.log.html#l-81

    18:37 <AlanBell> ok, anything else to add?

    18:38 <AlanBell> lets wrap it up there then

    18:38 <AlanBell> #endmeeting

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