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16:06   MootBot Meeting started at 16:06. The chair is liw.
16:06   MootBot Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
16:06   liw     welcome to the QA team weekly meeting
16:06   liw     agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
16:06   pedro_  woohoo!
16:06   ogasawara       heh
16:07   liw     [TOPIC] London sprint QA highlights
16:07   MootBot New Topic:  London sprint QA highlights
16:07   liw     so, we had a distro team sprint in London last week, and that included the Canonical QA people; it wasn't a community event, but we should report the QA related highlights
16:08   ogasawara       I've got a few things . . .
16:08   liw     for me: I got some advice on using KVM, and discussed expanding automatic desktop testing to the graphical installer, and worked together with Marc Tardif to create a package based on his hwtest framework that will run packaged automated desktop tests
16:09   liw     also, various people suggested including, in some form or another, automatic tests they have made, e.g., for security work
16:09   ogasawara       as a team we drafted out SRU process, bug workflow, bug forwarding, re-organizing the Debugging* wiki pages
16:10   liw     oh, and I made changes to the piuparts testing harness to provide a summary that can be included in the developer weather report
16:10   pedro_  And also we verified some of the outstanding SRU's ;-)
16:11   ogasawara       oh and went through the iso-testing bugs
16:12   liw     anything else?
16:12   pedro_  one of the new things that we are going to introduce are the new desktop hug days based on of course desktop packages they will be held the Thursdays so stay tune
16:13   stgraber        oh, so we'll have two hug days ?
16:13   pedro_  yes sr
16:13   stgraber        the first one being for the base system and the second for the GUI apps ?
16:15   pedro_  the second one is supposed to be based on Desktop apps like alacarte, evolution, nautilus, etc we have a few hundreds bugs there that need love
16:15   pedro_  and yeah the first one is more base system but includes another GUI apps like openoffice.org
16:16   stgraber        good, let's hope we'll have as many people for the desktop hugday as we do for the current one
16:16   liw     anything else?
16:17   liw     if so, let's get back to this point later
16:17   liw     [TOPIC] Nautilus bug day
16:17   MootBot New Topic:  Nautilus bug day
16:18   liw     pedro? ogasawara? (assuming bdmurray ran away already)
16:18   pedro_  the nautilus bug day went pretty fine we have some stats at the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080129
16:18   liw     cool
16:18   pedro_  a couple of new faces helped out
16:18   liw     excellent
16:19   liw     anything else about this?
16:20   pedro_  yes the good thing is that the bugs that we need confirmation to be fixed with nautilus-gio a good portion are fixed
16:20   pedro_  so thanks to all the brave bug testers ;-)
16:20   liw     indeed :)
16:21   liw     [TOPIC] Alpha 4 testing
16:21   MootBot New Topic:  Alpha 4 testing
16:23   liw     https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-January/000371.html is the announcement for Alpha 4, from yesterday, so Alpha 4 should happen tomorrow
16:23   stgraber        Do we have candidates ready for testing ?
16:23   stgraber        I have done some netboot testing yesterday with good results
16:23   liw     how are we set up for that? is everything in order to start testing tomorrow once the ISOs are released?
16:23   stgraber        the only problem being the new restricted-manager being buggy (I had to install my nvidia driver by hand)
16:24   stgraber        I have set "Hardy Alpha 4" as the default milestone on the tracker
16:24   stgraber        so any website admin can now add the builds (pitti and slangasek know how to do so)
16:25   Hobbsee ich auch
16:25   liw     stgraber, so the iso tracker is ready for everything? that should mean we're ready to start testing, yes?
16:26   stgraber        yes
16:26   liw     excellent
16:27   liw     [TOPIC] QA-Poll beta
16:27   MootBot New Topic:  QA-Poll beta
16:27   nand    oh, my turn.
16:27   stgraber        nand: stage is yours :)
16:27   nand    Well, I was hoping to see heno today for the domains names!
16:28   nand    otherwise everything is ready
16:28   nand    for upload and a private testing period
16:28   stgraber        apart from the fact that we need to merge devel with trunk again (which may take some time) :)
16:28   nand    I just need confirmation for the subdomains to tweak my .htaccess scripts :)
16:28   nand    yes :)
16:29   nand    This WE, if you are available
16:29   stgraber        What I also wanted to ask here about that is also : Who will be part of the private beta ?
16:30   nand    sry, pple around
16:30   nand    I'd say the QA team
16:31   nand    and some others... But we cannot publicy announce it yet I guess.
16:31   stgraber        the idea is not to have people advertising it through blog posts or things like that as we may have to change some bits
16:31   nand    yes.
16:31   nand    So I'd say the team and trusted friends
16:32   liw     is the private beta expected to last long?
16:32   stgraber        I personally thought ot : Canonical QA team + nand + evand (he was beta tester for the first implementation of qa-poll) + davmor2 + myself
16:32   stgraber        liw: my plan was from Tribe-4 till Tribe-5
16:33   nand    the time for me to fix everything you find :) I hope no more than two weeks
16:33   stgraber        liw: public release happening short after Tribe-5
16:33   liw     that's pretty short
16:33   liw     which is good
16:33   stgraber        that's a 2-3 weeks window, good if we don't find any major bug/lack
16:33   nand    yes. I'd really like it to be released at least two months before the hardy release, to gather a good lot of ideas
16:34   nand    yes
16:34   stgraber        anyway, I think we'll need Canonical's approval for the final release as it was planned to advertise it quite a bit (it's not a devel tool)
16:34   nand    I guess so
16:35   liw     anything else about the qa-poll beta?
16:35   nand    nothing else to add.
16:36   nand    stgraber: let's see this week end about it?
16:36   liw     in that case...
16:36   liw     #endmeeting
16:36   MootBot Meeting finished at 16:36.