20080930

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Agenda

Items we will be discussing:

  • Review ACTION points from previous meeting.
  • Review progress made on the specification listed on the Roadmap.

  • Open Discussion.
  • Agree on next meeting date and time.

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Agree on next meeting date and time

Next meeting will be on Tuesday, October 7th at 15:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting.

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{{{[16:01] <mathiaz> #startmeeting [16:01] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:01. The chair is mathiaz. [16:01] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:02] <soren> kirkland: Maybe. [16:02] <soren> kirkland: :P [16:02] <mathiaz> Today's agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting [16:02] <nealmcb> I thought dendrobates had spiked sideburns [16:02] <mathiaz> Previous meeting minutes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20080923 [16:02] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Ubuntu vm builder [16:02] <MootBot> New Topic: Ubuntu vm builder [16:03] <mathiaz> soren: what's new there ? [16:03] <soren> New version uploaded with lots fixes in it. [16:03] <soren> Erm.. [16:03] <soren> No big news, I'm afraid. [16:03] <mathiaz> nijaba: how is the tutorial update going ? [16:04] <nijaba> mathiaz: I just completed it, fixing/finding a few bugs as I go [16:04] <mathiaz> soren: IIRC you've added xen support to vmbuilder [16:04] <nijaba> mathiaz: but I think that, apart from a few changes, the general content is there and I'd love to get some feedback [16:04] <mathiaz> soren: do you have access to a xen environment to do the testing ? [16:05] <mathiaz> nijaba: url ? [16:05] <soren> mathiaz: That was weeks ago, though. [16:05] <soren> mathiaz: Yes, I have Xen running inside a KVM instance Smile :) [16:05] <zul> soren: scarey [16:05] <nijaba> has not changed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JeOSVMBuilder [16:05] <soren> mathiaz: zul and I have been trying to get Xenner to be useful, but it's not working out very well. [16:05] <nijaba> Xenner? [16:06] <soren> Xenner is a twisted version of KVM that can run Xen paravirt instances. [16:06] <zul> xen built ontop of kvm [16:06] <mathiaz> soren: is there support for vmware in vmbuilder ? [16:06] <zul> soren: a version of it will be in the next version of xen [16:06] <soren> It's rather... umm... interesting *cough*. [16:06] <soren> mathiaz: There is, yes. [16:07] <mathiaz> soren: do you have access to vmware environment to test it ? [16:07] <nijaba> but no virtual box yet, I think that's the main one missing [16:07] <soren> mathiaz: Nope. [16:07] <nijaba> (even though it is not a priority) [16:07] <soren> nijaba: Right. Someone asked me about that yesterday. [16:08] <mathiaz> soren: are all product of vmware supported ? [16:08] <mathiaz> soren: like ESX, -server, etc... ? [16:08] <soren> nijaba: I told him that if he could explain how to turn a set of raw images and some settings (amount of ram, cpu's, etc.) into a vbox instance, I'd be happy to implement it. [16:08] <soren> nijaba: We'll see how it goes. [16:08] <soren> mathiaz: I forget the details right now. [16:09] <soren> mathiaz: It should support whatever ubuntu-vm-builder supported. [16:09] <soren> If it doesn't, that's a bug that needs fixing. [16:09] <nijaba> mathiaz: I am not sure we can support ESX fully with what qemu-img offers [16:09] <mathiaz> soren: ok - anyway testing in vmware product is welcome. [16:09] <nijaba> mathiaz: was the same for uvb [16:09] <mathiaz> nijaba: ok. [16:10] <mathiaz> it may be usefull to figure out which products/technologies are supported by vm-builder. [16:10] <nijaba> player, workstation and server. For esx, it needs a manual conversion IIRC [16:11] <nijaba> tools are provided by VMware [16:11] <mathiaz> nijaba: thanks. [16:11] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Review ServerGuide for Intrepid [16:11] <MootBot> New Topic: Review ServerGuide for Intrepid [16:11] <mathiaz> sommer: did you update the virtualization section [16:11] <mathiaz> ? [16:12] <sommer> mathiaz: I added a couple of lines about xen, but I'm not sure it's quite where it needs to be [16:12] <sommer> mathiaz: it'll be updated by SF though [16:13] <nijaba> sommer: pointer to what you added? [16:13] <mathiaz> zul: could you take a look at the seciont ? [16:13] <mathiaz> zul: could you take a look at the virtualization section ? [16:13] <zul> mathiaz: yep [16:13] <sommer> nijaba: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ubuntu-vm-builder.html [16:13] <mathiaz> zul: [16:14] <mathiaz> [ACTION] zul to do review of the virtualization of the server guide. [16:14] <MootBot> ACTION received: zul to do review of the virtualization of the server guide. [16:14] <mathiaz> sommer: nijaba: shouldn't the JeOS section be removed ? [16:15] <nijaba> mathiaz: or updated using what I just produced on the wiki? [16:15] <dendrobates> mathiaz: or changed. [16:15] <mathiaz> or at least updated as there won't be JeOS iso [16:15] <mathiaz> dendrobates: IIUC JeOS is now an option in the -server iso [16:15] <soren> That's the idea, yes. [16:15] <nijaba> mathiaz: or an option in vmbuilder [16:16] <mathiaz> how do you get to install a JeOS from -server ? [16:16] <nijaba> (as soon as we find a virtual kernel for intrpid) [16:16] <nijaba> mathiaz: press F4 at first screen [16:17] <mathiaz> which kernel flavour is currently installed ? [16:17] <nijaba> for some reason, there is no linux-image-virtual kernel available in intrepid ATM [16:17] <mathiaz> since -virtual doesn't exist [16:17] <soren> Sure it does. [16:17] <nijaba> mathiaz: -server [16:17] <soren> I've filed a bug against linux-meta about the missing linux{,-image}-virtual packages. [16:18] <dendrobates> soren: have you sent an email to pete about it? [16:18] <soren> There *is* a virtual kernel flavour. [16:18] <soren> dendrobates: Umm. No? [16:18] <nijaba> soren: and is the 64bit version available as well? [16:18] <soren> nijaba: Yes. [16:18] <nijaba> so the only thinkg misssing is the meta packages.... [16:18] <soren> yes. [16:18] * nijaba puts too many letters... [16:19] <mathiaz> soren: once the -virtual- packages are there, is there anything that needs to be changed in the installer to pick itup ? [16:19] <soren> dendrobates: linux-image-2.6.27-4-virtual | 2.6.27-4.6 | intrepid/universe | amd64, i386 [16:19] <soren> Whoops, that wasn't for dendrobates. [16:19] <soren> Whuh... Universe? [16:19] <nijaba> mathiaz: some server-ship seeding? [16:19] <soren> Yeah, we need to seed it. [16:19] <mathiaz> soren: since as of now -server is installed in Jeos [16:20] <soren> It needs seeding, but first a metapackage. [16:20] <mathiaz> soren: right - and the installer will automatically choose it [16:20] <soren> mathiaz: Erm.. No. [16:20] <soren> mathiaz: Not the -virtual kernel. [16:20] <dendrobates> I want to make sure someone looks at the bug. [16:21] <mathiaz> soren: ok - so -virtual- needs to be seeded + the installer has to be modified. [16:21] <soren> mathiaz: I'm working on a "detect which virtual environment I'm in, if any" utility. [16:21] <soren> I'm going to get that added to base-installer for Jaunty. [16:21] <mathiaz> soren: for intrepid or beyond ? [16:21] <soren> mathiaz: I'm not sure about changing the installer. [16:22] <soren> The option you get in isn't called "JeOS". It's called "Minimal install". [16:22] <mathiaz> soren: ok - so that means we still need to fix or at least look into the JeOS option for the intrepid installer [16:22] <soren> Which, apart from the kernel choice, is the same thing. [16:22] <nijaba> soren, in fact, it is not a real JeOS iso replacement... [16:22] <soren> ..but it's preseedable, which was the original requirement (back in the gutsy days). [16:22] <soren> nijaba: -v [16:23] <nijaba> Well, the JeOS iso would install the -virtual kernel by default, so picking minimal install is not a replacement for it [16:24] <mathiaz> nijaba: so the minimal install for -server intrepid isos installs the same set of packages than JeOS ? [16:25] <mathiaz> nijaba: what's missing is the -virtual- kernel packages for now ? [16:25] <soren> nijaba: That's what I just said? [16:25] <soren> 15:22:19 < soren> Which, apart from the kernel choice, is the same thing. [16:25] <soren> mathiaz: Yes, apart from the kernel, the choice of packages is (or should be) the same. [16:26] <mathiaz> soren: ok. [16:26] <mathiaz> let's move on. [16:26] <soren> Let's. [16:26] <mathiaz> sommer: anything else on the server guide ? [16:26] <sommer> so the jeos section needs updated, and probably the installation section? [16:26] <mathiaz> sommer: I've given you some feedback on the ldap serction [16:26] <sommer> mathiaz: yep... still need to adjust that [16:27] <dendrobates> mathiaz: did you give sommer feedback on the support section, that we discussed? [16:27] <sommer> mathiaz: was the ldapadd instead of slapadd the only thing? [16:27] <mathiaz> sommer: not yet [16:27] <mathiaz> dendrobates: not yet. [16:27] <dendrobates> mathiaz: you had wanted some changes, that I agreed with. [16:28] <mathiaz> [ACTION] mathiaz to update the support section of the server guide [16:28] <MootBot> ACTION received: mathiaz to update the support section of the server guide [16:28] <mathiaz> sommer: yes [16:28] <sommer> mathiaz: cool [16:28] <mathiaz> sommer: I still wanna go through the rest of the section and test it. [16:28] <mathiaz> sommer: there are some sub-sections about replication and so on. [16:29] <mathiaz> sommer: I wonder if it's too advanced for the server guide. [16:29] <sommer> mathiaz: ya, cn=config does add some more complexity [16:29] <mathiaz> sommer: we could probably mention that it exists and point to the openldap guide [16:29] <mathiaz> sommer: upstream documentation is good [16:30] <sommer> mathiaz: I think it's pretty important to have replication in... having only a single LDAP server on a network is sort of scary [16:31] <mathiaz> [ACTION] sommer to update the JeOS and installation section [16:31] <MootBot> ACTION received: sommer to update the JeOS and installation section [16:31] <mathiaz> sommer: right - IIRC upstream documentation may lack some real world ldif files to setup replication. [16:31] <mathiaz> sommer: I'll go through the section and test it [16:32] <sommer> mathiaz: ya, and it's not really very clear on adding schema ldif files [16:32] <mathiaz> sommer: anything else ? [16:32] <sommer> mathiaz: I think that's it [16:32] <mathiaz> sommer: great - thanks ! [16:32] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] nagios3 in main [16:32] <MootBot> New Topic: nagios3 in main [16:32] <mathiaz> Koon: ? [16:32] <mathiaz> Koon: I think it's fixed now ? [16:33] <Koon> mathiaz: I posted the MIR, which wasn't really needed, then nagios3 was promoted [16:33] <Koon> and you added it to the server-ship seed [16:33] <mathiaz> and it's on the -server cd now ! Big Grin :) [16:33] <nijaba> server-ship? [16:33] <mathiaz> nijaba: yes [16:33] * nijaba wonders why, but fine [16:34] <mathiaz> nijaba: nagios2 was there [16:34] <nijaba> mathiaz: ah, makes sense then [16:34] <soren> Well, it wasn't, actually. [16:34] <Koon> yep [16:34] <mathiaz> nijaba: I've just s/nagios2/nagios3/ [16:34] <soren> ..but that was a mistake Smile :) [16:34] <Koon> soren: tss [16:34] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Server survey [16:34] <MootBot> New Topic: Ubuntu Server survey [16:34] <mathiaz> nijaba: how is it going ? [16:35] <nijaba> it is doing great [16:35] <nijaba> more than 2000 full replies so far [16:35] <nealmcb> Smile :) [16:35] <sommer> wow [16:35] <mathiaz> nijaba: when do you plan to close the survey ? [16:35] <nijaba> we get about 1/3 of the respondant that do not complete the survey, but that was expected [16:36] <nijaba> mathiaz: result will be published before UDS, so I intend to close it last week of november [16:36] * nijaba looking for people knowing how to use a SPSS type tool [16:36] <mathiaz> nijaba: seems that the marketing plan is working well. [16:37] <nijaba> mathiaz: yes, it is. [16:37] <mathiaz> anyone that wants to blog about it is welcome. [16:37] <nijaba> there are also some items left to do in the launch plan [16:37] <mathiaz> it was announced last thursday - and there is a digg link IIRC [16:37] <nijaba> yes, but that is not getting too much digging [16:37] <kirkland> please splat the digg link here, now [16:38] <kirkland> i'll digg+1 it Smile :-) [16:38] <nijaba> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Server_survey_launched [16:38] <MootBot> LINK received: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Server_survey_launched [16:38] <kirkland> done [16:38] <nealmcb> nijaba: I've played with R in the past - very powerful, if confusing. scipy also does a lot [16:39] <kirkland> i'll blog something too [16:39] <nijaba> nealmcb: are you voluntering to help on the analysis? [16:39] <nijaba> Wink ;) [16:39] <mathiaz> [ACTION] kirkland to blog about the server survey [16:39] <MootBot> ACTION received: kirkland to blog about the server survey [16:40] * nealmcb gets a digg in [16:40] <nealmcb> nijaba: yes [16:40] * nijaba hugs nealmcb [16:40] <nealmcb> I'm not an expert with stats or surveys, but will do what I can [16:40] <mathiaz> nijaba: great - anything else on the survey ? [16:41] <nijaba> nope... [16:41] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Beta Freeze === alex3f is now known as alex3f[ubuntu-ro [16:41] <MootBot> New Topic: Beta Freeze === alex3f[ubuntu-ro is now known as alex3f[ubunt-ro] [16:41] <mathiaz> so we're in beta freeze and the -server isos for beta have been produced. [16:41] <mathiaz> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ is used to track the tests. [16:41] <MootBot> LINK received: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ is used to track the tests. [16:41] * ivoks o/ === alex3f[ubunt-ro] is now known as alex3f[ubuntu-ro [16:42] <mathiaz> on a related note, partman-auto-raid has been promoted to main and is now available on the iso [16:42] <zul> what does that do again? [16:42] <mathiaz> so preseeded installs can now setup a RAID system [16:42] <zul> ah [16:43] <kirkland> \o/ [16:43] <mathiaz> It requires some testing though. [16:43] <ivoks> iirc, it is usable [16:43] <ivoks> at least it was when i worked on that... a year ago (or more) Smile :) [16:43] <mathiaz> ivoks: well - it has never been tested in ubuntu. [16:43] <ivoks> right [16:44] <mathiaz> ivoks: It works in debian. [16:44] <nijaba> an is the option to have a sane boot degraded mode preseedable as well? [16:44] <nijaba> s/an/and [16:44] <soren> Yes. It's been the default for years. [16:45] <soren> :p [16:45] <nijaba> :P [16:45] <mathiaz> nijaba: kirkland implemented it - he should know about it. [16:46] <kirkland> mathiaz: sadly, i have little experience with preseeding, so I don't know [16:46] <nijaba> kirkland: is it a debconf question? [16:46] <kirkland> nijaba: yup [16:46] <soren> kirkland: presseding means answering debconf questions ahead of time. [16:46] <ivoks> kirkland: you are so lucky... Smile :) [16:46] <nijaba> so it should work fine [16:46] <mathiaz> kirkland: ok - so it's preseedable. [16:46] <kirkland> awesome [16:47] <soren> For bonus points, someone should tweak kickseed to handle this.. [16:47] * nealmcb pats kirkland on the back [16:47] <ivoks> that shouldn't be too hard [16:47] <nijaba> soren: err... kickstart? [16:47] <soren> kickseed. [16:47] <ivoks> no, seed [16:47] <ivoks> kickstart doesn't know anything about preseeding [16:47] <mathiaz> nijaba: kickseed is the name of the kickstart implementation for the Ubuntu installer [16:48] <nijaba> ivoks: yup, but you can add preseeds to it [16:48] <soren> nijaba: kickseed is an installer component that lets you pass a kickstart file to d-i and then it translates it into the corresponding preseed values. [16:48] * nijaba used it without know its name... [16:48] <mathiaz> ivoks: kickseed has a hook to add preseed command in the kickstart file [16:49] * nijaba confirms that it is VERY usefull [16:49] <ivoks> ok... i always used kickstart file + preseed file - i guess i'm outdated Smile :) [16:50] <mathiaz> so if you've got some spare server hardware, testing the -server iso for Beta is more than welcome! [16:50] <mathiaz> Beta is schedule for Thursday. [16:51] <ivoks> ok Smile :) [16:51] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Open Discussion [16:51] <MootBot> New Topic: Open Discussion [16:51] <mathiaz> anyone wants to add anything ? [16:51] <ivoks> yes? [16:51] <ivoks> am i allowed to twist arms of kernel team? [16:51] <ivoks> Smile :) [16:52] <ivoks> we have very broken drbd implementation in intrepid [16:52] <mathiaz> ivoks: on your behalf or on behalf of the server team ? [16:52] <ivoks> this requires changes in kernel and new user space tools [16:52] <ivoks> well, server team [16:52] <nijaba> great calendar to add for the up to date release schedule: http://people.ubuntu.com/~vorlon/UbuntuReleaseSchedule.ics [16:52] <ivoks> the thing is that we have to ship release candidate of drbd 2.8.7 [16:52] <mathiaz> ivoks: what is required on the kernel side ? [16:53] <ivoks> since stable release doesn't work on 2.6.27, and changes are huge [16:53] <mathiaz> ivoks: do you have a bug number? [16:53] <ivoks> this also means that we'll have user space tools from debian experimental [16:53] <ivoks> yes [16:54] <ivoks> bug #271254 [16:54] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 271254 in drbd8 "drbd doesn't start: "No response from the DRBD driver! Is the module loaded?" but module is loaded" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/271254 [16:54] <ivoks> i've been working on this for last 3-4 days and i have a working solution - drbd 2.8.7~rc1 [16:55] <ivoks> http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/0001-UBUNTU-drbd-New-upstream-prerelease-2.8.7-rc1.patch [16:55] <MootBot> LINK received: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/0001-UBUNTU-drbd-New-upstream-prerelease-2.8.7-rc1.patch [16:55] <ivoks> this is a patch for kernel === asac_ is now known as asac [16:55] <mathiaz> ivoks: I'm confused by the version numbers. [16:55] <zul> i had a look at the kernel patch and it looks fine to me [16:55] <mathiaz> ivoks: 2.8.7 or 8.2.7 ? [16:55] <ivoks> 8.2.7 [16:55] <zul> mathiaz: 8.2.7 [16:55] <ivoks> sorry, my mistake [16:55] <ivoks> i'll fix that [16:56] <mathiaz> ivoks: as of now, 8.2.6 doesn't work in 2.6.27 ? [16:56] <ivoks> correct [16:56] <ivoks> opensuse has the same problem [16:56] <nealmcb> ivoks: thanks for figuring all that out! [16:56] <mathiaz> ivoks: could it be possible to fix 8.2.6 ? [16:56] <mathiaz> ivoks: or 8.2.7 is the only viable option ? [16:57] <zul> basically what happened is that we have 8.0.12 in the archive and the kernel has 8.2.6 which doesnt work well together and if you use 8.2.6. kernel/user then it wont work as well [16:57] <ivoks> mathiaz: i've looked at commit, for which drbd guys say that fixes the issue [16:57] <ivoks> it simply depends on too many changes to just go cherry picking [16:58] <ivoks> in my opinoion, 8.2.7 is a way to go [16:58] <mathiaz> zul: ok - so 8.2.6 is broken - 8.2.7rc1 works [16:58] <zul> mathiaz: yes [16:59] <mathiaz> ivoks: could the kernel be downgraded to 8.0.12 ? [16:59] <ivoks> i haven't tested 8.0.12 with 2.6.17 [16:59] <zul> mathiaz: Ive talked to kernel guys about that before I got ivoks involved and they didnt think it was a good idea [17:00] <mathiaz> right - so it seems that 8.2.7rc1 is the best option as the current situation is broken [17:00] <ivoks> right [17:01] <nealmcb> zul: and thanks to you too... looks like it might be one of those costs of going with the 2.6.27 kernel [17:01] <ivoks> we can do this changes after beta is out... [17:01] <mathiaz> ivoks: do you have 8.2.7 tools in a ppa ? [17:01] <dendrobates> ivoks: is there a bug # [17:01] <ivoks> nealmcb: yes, it's exactly that... [17:01] <mathiaz> dendrobates: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/drbd8/+bug/271254 [17:01] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 271254 in drbd8 "drbd doesn't start: "No response from the DRBD driver! Is the module loaded?" but module is loaded" [High,Confirmed] [17:01] <ivoks> mathiaz: no, but i'm working on it... upstream alredy provides debian/, so i'll just compare to our and debian source [17:02] <mathiaz> ivoks: you've mentionned debian experimental. [17:02] <ivoks> yes [17:02] <ivoks> mathiaz: debian experimental has 8.2.6 [17:02] <mathiaz> ivoks: I think the key point here is to have the tools in a PPA so that we can show that 8.2.7 is working correctly. [17:02] <ivoks> mathiaz: i agree [17:03] <ivoks> mathiaz: i have 8.2.6 in my ppa, but i'll move it to 8.2.7 today [17:03] <mathiaz> ivoks: excellent. then once we're out of beta, we can update the kernel. [17:03] <mathiaz> ivoks: IIUC you've also the kernel part ready ? [17:04] <mathiaz> ivoks: ie a git branch ready ? [17:04] <ivoks> mathiaz: correct [17:04] <ivoks> yes [17:04] <ivoks> http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/0001-UBUNTU-drbd-New-upstream-prerelease-2.8.7-rc1.patch [17:04] <MootBot> LINK received: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/0001-UBUNTU-drbd-New-upstream-prerelease-2.8.7-rc1.patch [17:04] <zul> ivoks: just send the patch off to the kernel-t-eam mailing list is is the proper procedure [17:04] <mathiaz> ivoks: zul: is it possible to upload a modified kernel to a PPA ? [17:04] <ivoks> why not? [17:05] <mathiaz> ivoks: I don't know - that's why I'm asking Big Grin :) [17:05] <zul> mathiaz: it can be done sure... [17:05] <ivoks> if not, i can setup archive outside ppa [17:05] <mathiaz> ivoks: to point is to get wider testing ASAP [17:05] <mathiaz> ivoks: KernelFreeze will be in two weeks for Intrepid. [17:05] <ivoks> i know [17:05] <mathiaz> ivoks: so we won't have that many uploads to test/fix things. [17:05] <ivoks> sorry, i didn't have time untill a week ago Sad :( [17:05] <zul> mathiaz: its best to send off the patch asap [17:06] <mathiaz> zul: ok [17:06] <ivoks> zul: with fixed typo [17:06] <mathiaz> [ACTION] ivoks to send the drbd patch to the ubuntu-kernel mailing list [17:06] <MootBot> ACTION received: ivoks to send the drbd patch to the ubuntu-kernel mailing list [17:06] <zul> ivoks: yep [17:07] <mathiaz> [ACTION] ivoks to upload 8.2.7 tools to a PPA [17:07] <MootBot> ACTION received: ivoks to upload 8.2.7 tools to a PPA [17:07] <mathiaz> ivoks: that will help for sponsoring [17:07] <ivoks> and kernel source [17:07] <ivoks> i know [17:08] <ivoks> easier to track changes [17:08] <mathiaz> ivoks: excellent ! Thanks for the good work [17:08] <mathiaz> Anything else to add ? [17:08] <ivoks> yes Smile :) [17:08] <ivoks> bacula Smile :) [17:08] <ivoks> bacula in hardy isn't in very good shape [17:09] <ivoks> we've missed a .1 release cause of one bug [17:09] <ivoks> upstream claims that bug is fixed, but our bug reporter claims it isn't [17:09] <mathiaz> ivoks: .1 - you mean 8.04.1 ? [17:09] <ivoks> right [17:09] <mathiaz> ivoks: well - we can still fix things in hardy. [17:10] <ivoks> what's the procedure if our bug reporter doesn't reply to bug report, while upstream claims that bug is fixed? [17:10] <nijaba> ivoks: I would tend to beleive waht kern said and check if the 2 patches he mentioned were actually applied [17:10] <ivoks> since, for SRU, we need validation-confirmed [17:10] <ivoks> and there's no one to confirm it Smile :) [17:10] <mathiaz> ivoks: what's the bug number ? [17:11] <ivoks> just a second... [17:11] <mathiaz> ivoks: for SRU we also need a test case - so that we can reproduce it [17:11] <ivoks> bug #227613 [17:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 227613 in bacula "[SRU] SIGSEGV in bacula-fd" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/227613 [17:13] <mathiaz> ivoks: hm - it seems that we have test case that is repoducable [17:14] <mathiaz> ivoks: zul: were you able to reproduce it or not ? [17:14] <ivoks> well, it just seems [17:14] <ivoks> neither can i or upstream reproduce this bug Smile :) [17:14] <zul> mathiaz: no i wasnt [17:15] <mathiaz> ivoks: well - in that case, we can only rely on the reporter or one of the tester. [17:15] <ivoks> and the bug reporter on bacula's buglist confirmed that this patch solved the issue [17:16] <mathiaz> ivoks: ok - it seems that it's a corner case though [17:16] <ivoks> ok, so we wait for bug reporter to confirm it is fixed? [17:16] <mathiaz> ivoks: in this case we rely on the rporter [17:16] <ivoks> ok [17:16] <mathiaz> ivoks: yes - I'd proceed that way. [17:17] <ivoks> that's what i tought... Smile :) [17:17] <mathiaz> ok - we're over time now. [17:17] <mathiaz> Anything else ? [17:18] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Agree on next meeting date and time [17:18] <MootBot> New Topic: Agree on next meeting date and time [17:18] <mathiaz> next week, same time, same place ? [17:18] <ivoks> ok [17:18] <sommer> works for me [17:19] <mathiaz> great - so see ya all next week, same time, here. [17:19] <mathiaz> happy beta testing all ! [17:19] <mathiaz> #endmeeting }}}