20090512
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Agenda
Items we will be discussing:
- Review ACTION points from previous meeting.
Review progress made on the specification listed on the Roadmap.
- Open Discussion.
- Agree on next meeting date and time.
Minutes
Agree on next meeting date and time
Next meeting will be on Tuesday, June 2nd at 15:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting.
Log
[16:01] <mathiaz> #startmeeting [16:01] <coffeedude> ttx, not going to make it. Triple booked on dev work. But I will start on the likewise-open 5.2 packages for Karmic this week. Also will fix the upgrade from 4.1 issue. [16:01] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:01. The chair is mathiaz. [16:01] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:01] <mathiaz> Today's agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting [16:02] <mathiaz> last week minutes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20090505 [16:02] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Merges [16:02] <MootBot> New Topic: Merges [16:03] <mathiaz> I've published a list of merges that look easy [16:03] <mathiaz> http://ubuntuserver.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/hungry-for-merges-the-ubuntu-server-team-has-a-selection-for-your-appetite/ [16:03] <MootBot> LINK received: http://ubuntuserver.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/hungry-for-merges-the-ubuntu-server-team-has-a-selection-for-your-appetite/ [16:03] <mathiaz> I've also updated the Roadmap with the list [16:03] <ttx> I confirm that the tomcat6 remerge there is very easy for a beginner. [16:03] <mathiaz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Roadmap [16:04] <mathiaz> So anyone interested in the merge process can start by these [16:04] <dendrobates_> o/ [16:04] <mathiaz> The technical level shouldn't be high and will help in understanding the merge process itself. [16:05] <mathiaz> And once all the merges on the list are done, MoM has the full list [16:05] <mathiaz> https://merges.ubuntu.com/ [16:05] * RoAkSoAx waves [16:06] <mathiaz> As of now there are 227 outstanding merges in main 363 outstanding merges in universe [16:06] <mathiaz> enough to keep us busy for a while :) [16:06] <mathiaz> any questions related to the merge process? [16:07] * nijaba is late: o/ [16:07] <coffeedude> mathiaz, where does the MIT krb5 1.7 packaging fall in this? [16:07] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] MIT krb5 1.7 [16:07] <MootBot> New Topic: MIT krb5 1.7 [16:08] <mathiaz> coffeedude: so krb5 1.7 has been synced from debian [16:08] <coffeedude> mathiaz, but is still in beta correct? [16:08] <mathiaz> coffeedude: yes [16:08] <mathiaz> coffeedude: 1.7 is still in beta according to upstream [16:08] <mathiaz> coffeedude: debian has moved 1.7 to unstable though [16:08] <mathiaz> the libkrb53 transition has started in karmic [16:09] <coffeedude> mathiaz, I can start looking at local patches for likewise-open to work against the 1.7 code but can't officially move to it until it is released. [16:09] <mathiaz> for now we're not doing anything special - we're just relying on the debian autoimport to rebuild the packages [16:09] <mathiaz> coffeedude: understood. [16:09] <coffeedude> mathiaz, so an 'apt-get install libkrb53' in karmix will get you 1.7 though correct? [16:09] <mathiaz> coffeedude: we can talk with the MIT devs about their plan for 1.7 [16:09] <coffeedude> s/karmix/karmic/ [16:10] <mathiaz> coffeedude: nope - libkrb53 is no longer there [16:10] <mathiaz> coffeedude: libkrb5-4 is the new package name IIRC [16:10] <coffeedude> mathiaz, Ahh....ok. But that's what you get from 'apt-get install i-want-the-krb5-client-libs-pkg-name' [16:10] <coffeedude> mathiaz, that's all I needed to know I think. === dendrobates_ is now known as dendrobates [16:11] <mathiaz> coffeedude: you want libkrb5-3 [16:11] <mathiaz> coffeedude: libkrb53 is still in karmic because some packages are still depending on it [16:12] <mathiaz> coffeedude: however libkrb53 will disappear from karmic once the transition is completed [16:12] <coffeedude> mathiaz, understood. [16:13] * nealmcb is surprised to see that single-des seems to still be supported by default for the previous release of kerberos [16:13] <mathiaz> great - the MIT devs will be at UDS - so we can talk to them about their release plan [16:13] <mathiaz> anything else related to krb7 1.7? [16:14] <mathiaz> hm - *krb5* [16:14] <coffeedude> mathiaz, I'm good. [16:15] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Karmic Alpha1 [16:15] <MootBot> New Topic: Karmic Alpha1 [16:15] <mathiaz> so we're preparing the alpha1 release of Karmic [16:15] <mathiaz> scheduled for this Thursday [16:15] <mathiaz> that means some iso testing will be conducted in the coming days [16:15] <mathiaz> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ [16:15] <MootBot> LINK received: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ [16:16] <mathiaz> ^^ will track the list of candidates [16:17] <mathiaz> Any help in this area is welcome [16:17] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] UDS [16:17] <MootBot> New Topic: UDS [16:17] <mathiaz> so we're also preparing for UDS [16:17] <mathiaz> schedule to happen in 2 weeks in the lovely city of Barcelona, Spain [16:18] <mathiaz> dendrobates: anything to say on this topic? [16:18] <dendrobates> mathiaz: this UDS will be a little different. [16:18] <dendrobates> we have 2 session rooms and a break out room [16:18] <dendrobates> so that means twice as many sessions. [16:19] <dendrobates> I have just received notice, that they will be randomizing the rooms. [16:19] <soren> Hahah! [16:19] <dendrobates> so, we will not just get to sit in the same room, and it may be a little complicated figuring out where to go. [16:20] * sommer likes to setup camp [16:20] <dendrobates> soren: I'm not kidding. [16:20] <ttx> sommer: like a good sniper :) [16:20] <zul> randomizing? [16:21] <ttx> zul: you have to solve a riddle to get to the right room. [16:21] * mathiaz thinks that will help to get some physical exercise done during the summit [16:21] <dendrobates> zul: yes, that;s when things change in an unpredictable way. [16:21] <nijaba> zul: and it prevents people from falling asleep too long [16:21] <zul> ttx: like monty python and the holy grail? [16:21] * kirkland hopes for a broken RNG [16:22] <mathiaz> dendrobates: will the rooms schedule be published before UDS? [16:22] <dendrobates> As usual I will buy a beer for any server team community team members that show up. === zaafouri is now known as zaafouri` [16:22] <dendrobates> mathiaz: I sure hope so. [16:22] <ogra> mathiaz, its on lp since weeks [16:22] <mathiaz> dendrobates: s/community//g [16:22] <ttx> mathiaz: well, we are part of the community, so we get a beer as well. [16:23] <mathiaz> ogra: I meant the rooms where the discussion are taking place [16:23] <nijaba> ttx: can I get a coke instead? [16:23] <ogra> mathiaz, me too :) [16:23] <dendrobates> ogra: without the randomization, though. [16:23] <mathiaz> IIUC we'll have to change physical room between discussion [16:23] <dendrobates> ttx: maybe, sherry. === jfolsom is now known as wiremonk [16:24] <zul> dendrobates: do we get a homeroom a la high school? [16:24] <dendrobates> we have plenty of open spaces and a breakout room for adhoc discussions. [16:24] <dendrobates> zul: that is a good question/idea. [16:25] <ogra> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-karmic/ for reference [16:25] <MootBot> LINK received: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-karmic/ for reference [16:26] <mathiaz> ok - any other questions related to UDS? [16:26] <dendrobates> please note that the sessions can still move around. [16:28] <ScottK> It's nice that it highlights the ones I'm signed up for .... [16:28] <kirkland> it's a great list of sessions so far! [16:29] <mathiaz> there are some free slots left [16:29] <ttx> kirkland: the server rooms have some of the busiest schedule around. [16:30] <mathiaz> I'd suggest to go through the server-a and server-b schedule and make sure the topic you wanna talk about are scheduled somewhere [16:31] <mathiaz> all right - any other ideas/comments/rants about UDS? [16:32] <mathiaz> nope - let's move one [16:32] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Open discussion [16:32] <MootBot> New Topic: Open discussion [16:33] <mathiaz> Any other question/ideas? [16:33] <gourgi> any plans for this in karmic https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebMirrorManager ? [16:34] <nijaba> gourgi: there is a talk about such a tool in the platform session [16:34] <nijaba> gourgi: mvo is leading it IIRC [16:34] <mathiaz> nijaba: what's the blueprint? [16:35] <nijaba> mathiaz: hold on [16:35] * mathiaz doesn't move [16:35] <nijaba> mathiaz: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-karmic-repository-management [16:36] <mathiaz> nijaba: great - thanks for the link [16:36] <nijaba> oh, I forgot s/platform/foundations/ [16:36] <gourgi> nijaba thank you [16:36] <nijaba> np [16:37] <mathiaz> nijaba: I've updated the wiki page to point to the new blueprint in LP [16:37] <mathiaz> nijaba: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebMirrorManager [16:37] <nijaba> mathiaz: and I signalled the existence of this bp to mvo [16:37] <mathiaz> nijaba: right - we already talked about it during the Prague UDS [16:37] <nijaba> corrext [16:38] <mathiaz> Anything else? [16:40] <zul> nope [16:41] <kirkland> mathiaz: I thought I'd mention to this group that screen-profiles has been renamed to 'byobu' [16:42] <kirkland> mathiaz: thanks to this group for all the feedback given during screen-profiles-1.x cycle, here's to an even better byobu-2.0 :-) [16:43] <mathiaz> kirkland: awesome - how did you find the new name? [16:44] <coffeedude> "bring your own bottled ubuntu" ? [16:44] <ttx> coffeedude: almost [16:44] <gourgi> kirkland i love byobu, i'm gonna translate it in greek soon. [16:44] <nijaba> byobu is an ancient japenese term.... [16:44] <kirkland> mathiaz: nijaba is right! [16:45] <kirkland> it's a japanese term for elegant folding room dividers, aka folding screens [16:45] <gourgi> kirkland also server-guide needs update about byobu http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/screen-profiles.html [16:45] <kirkland> i think this is appropriate, since this is really just a fancier frontend to screen itself [16:45] <kirkland> gourgi: thanks a lot! i'm hoping very much to focus on internationalization of byobu for Karmic [16:45] <kirkland> this will require help from all you non-english speakers :-) [16:46] <gourgi> kirkland i know, i follow your ppa and blog pretty often [16:46] <mathiaz> kirkland: you don't speak non-english? [16:46] <kirkland> gourgi: great [16:46] <kirkland> mathiaz: i do plan on translating it into Texan, Cajun, and Latin :-P [16:46] <kirkland> (my other lingos) [16:46] <kirkland> heh [16:47] <nijaba> kirkland: I'll do parisian and FR_sl then.... [16:47] <mathiaz> allright -anything else? [16:47] <kirkland> mathiaz: thanks! [16:48] <zul> meeting next week? [16:48] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Agree on next meeting date and time [16:48] <MootBot> New Topic: Agree on next meeting date and time [16:48] <nijaba> just before UDS? seems tough.... [16:48] <mathiaz> so most of us will be traveling next week [16:48] <mathiaz> on tuesday [16:49] <mathiaz> so I suggest we cancel the meeting next week [16:49] <mathiaz> and then there will be UDS [16:49] <mathiaz> in two weeks [16:49] <mathiaz> so I suggest to cancel the meeting in two weeks as well [16:50] <mathiaz> that brings us to Tuesday June 2nd [16:50] <mathiaz> so next meeting: Tuesday June 2nd, same place, same time? [16:50] * nealmcb will miss you all! [16:51] * gourgi hopes for good news from UDS about the local mirrors management :) [16:51] <kirkland> mathiaz: ack [16:51] <mathiaz> nealmcb: you can tune in during the UDS discussions [16:51] <nealmcb> I'll be at google i/o playing with android [16:52] <nealmcb> but may be able to tune in for a few [16:53] <mathiaz> all right then [16:53] <ttx> nealmcb: Tunein, you'll enjoy the incredible audio lag :) [16:54] <mathiaz> next meeting in three weeks, Tue Jun 2nd, 15:00 UTC, #ubuntu-meeting [16:54] <mathiaz> thanks for attending [16:54] <mathiaz> and happy travels to Spain for some of you :) [16:54] <mathiaz> #endmeeting [16:55] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:54.