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Items we will be discussing:

  • Review ACTION points from previous meeting.
  • Review progress made on the specification listed on the Roadmap.

  • Open Discussion.
  • Agree on next meeting date and time.


Agree on next meeting date and time

Next meeting will be on Tuesday, June 2nd at 15:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting.


[16:01] <mathiaz> #startmeeting
[16:01] <coffeedude> ttx, not going to make it.  Triple booked on dev work.  But I will start on the likewise-open 5.2 packages for Karmic this week.  Also will fix the upgrade from 4.1 issue.
[16:01] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:01. The chair is mathiaz.
[16:01] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[16:01] <mathiaz> Today's agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting
[16:02] <mathiaz> last week minutes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20090505
[16:02] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Merges
[16:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  Merges
[16:03] <mathiaz> I've published a list of merges that look easy
[16:03] <mathiaz> http://ubuntuserver.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/hungry-for-merges-the-ubuntu-server-team-has-a-selection-for-your-appetite/
[16:03] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://ubuntuserver.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/hungry-for-merges-the-ubuntu-server-team-has-a-selection-for-your-appetite/
[16:03] <mathiaz> I've also updated the Roadmap with the list
[16:03] <ttx> I confirm that the tomcat6 remerge there is very easy for a beginner.
[16:03] <mathiaz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Roadmap
[16:04] <mathiaz> So anyone interested in the merge process can start by these
[16:04] <dendrobates_> o/
[16:04] <mathiaz> The technical level shouldn't be high and will help in understanding the merge process itself.
[16:05] <mathiaz> And once all the merges on the list are done, MoM has the full list
[16:05] <mathiaz> https://merges.ubuntu.com/
[16:05]  * RoAkSoAx waves
[16:06] <mathiaz> As of now there are 227 outstanding merges in main 363 outstanding merges in universe
[16:06] <mathiaz> enough to keep us busy for a while :)
[16:06] <mathiaz> any questions related to the merge process?
[16:07]  * nijaba is late: o/
[16:07] <coffeedude> mathiaz, where does the MIT krb5 1.7 packaging fall in this?
[16:07] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] MIT krb5 1.7
[16:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  MIT krb5 1.7
[16:08] <mathiaz> coffeedude: so krb5 1.7 has been synced from debian
[16:08] <coffeedude> mathiaz, but is still in beta correct?
[16:08] <mathiaz> coffeedude: yes
[16:08] <mathiaz> coffeedude: 1.7 is still in beta according to upstream
[16:08] <mathiaz> coffeedude: debian has moved 1.7 to unstable though
[16:08] <mathiaz> the libkrb53 transition has started in karmic
[16:09] <coffeedude> mathiaz, I can start looking at local patches for likewise-open to work against the 1.7 code but can't officially move to it until it is released.
[16:09] <mathiaz> for now we're not doing anything special - we're just relying on the debian autoimport to rebuild the packages
[16:09] <mathiaz> coffeedude: understood.
[16:09] <coffeedude> mathiaz, so an 'apt-get install libkrb53' in karmix will get you 1.7 though correct?
[16:09] <mathiaz> coffeedude: we can talk with the MIT devs about their plan for 1.7
[16:09] <coffeedude> s/karmix/karmic/
[16:10] <mathiaz> coffeedude: nope - libkrb53 is no longer there
[16:10] <mathiaz> coffeedude: libkrb5-4 is the new package name IIRC
[16:10] <coffeedude> mathiaz, Ahh....ok.  But that's what you get from 'apt-get install i-want-the-krb5-client-libs-pkg-name'
[16:10] <coffeedude> mathiaz, that's all I needed to know I think.
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[16:11] <mathiaz> coffeedude: you want libkrb5-3
[16:11] <mathiaz> coffeedude: libkrb53 is still in karmic because some packages are still depending on it
[16:12] <mathiaz> coffeedude: however libkrb53 will disappear from karmic once the transition is completed
[16:12] <coffeedude> mathiaz, understood.
[16:13]  * nealmcb is surprised to see that single-des seems to still be supported by default for the previous release of kerberos
[16:13] <mathiaz> great - the MIT devs will be at UDS - so we can talk to them about their release plan
[16:13] <mathiaz> anything else related to krb7 1.7?
[16:14] <mathiaz> hm - *krb5*
[16:14] <coffeedude> mathiaz, I'm good.
[16:15] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Karmic Alpha1
[16:15] <MootBot> New Topic:  Karmic Alpha1
[16:15] <mathiaz> so we're preparing the alpha1 release of Karmic
[16:15] <mathiaz> scheduled for this Thursday
[16:15] <mathiaz> that means some iso testing will be conducted in the coming days
[16:15] <mathiaz> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[16:15] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[16:16] <mathiaz> ^^ will track the list of candidates
[16:17] <mathiaz> Any help in this area is welcome
[16:17] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] UDS
[16:17] <MootBot> New Topic:  UDS
[16:17] <mathiaz> so we're also preparing for UDS
[16:17] <mathiaz> schedule to happen in 2 weeks in the lovely city of Barcelona, Spain
[16:18] <mathiaz> dendrobates: anything to say on this topic?
[16:18] <dendrobates> mathiaz: this UDS will be a little different.
[16:18] <dendrobates> we have 2 session rooms and a break out room
[16:18] <dendrobates> so that means twice as many sessions.
[16:19] <dendrobates> I have just received notice, that they will be randomizing the rooms.
[16:19] <soren> Hahah!
[16:19] <dendrobates> so, we will not just get to sit in the same room, and it may be a little complicated figuring out where to go.
[16:20]  * sommer likes to setup camp
[16:20] <dendrobates> soren: I'm not kidding.
[16:20] <ttx> sommer: like a good sniper :)
[16:20] <zul> randomizing?
[16:21] <ttx> zul: you have to solve a riddle to get to the right room.
[16:21]  * mathiaz thinks that will help to get some physical exercise done during the summit
[16:21] <dendrobates> zul:  yes, that;s when things change in an unpredictable way.
[16:21] <nijaba> zul: and it prevents people from falling asleep too long
[16:21] <zul> ttx: like monty python and the holy grail?
[16:21]  * kirkland hopes for a broken RNG
[16:22] <mathiaz> dendrobates: will the rooms schedule be published before UDS?
[16:22] <dendrobates> As usual I will buy a beer for any server team community team members that show up.
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[16:22] <dendrobates> mathiaz: I sure hope so.
[16:22] <ogra> mathiaz, its on lp since weeks
[16:22] <mathiaz> dendrobates: s/community//g
[16:22] <ttx> mathiaz: well, we are part of the community, so we get a beer as well.
[16:23] <mathiaz> ogra: I meant the rooms where the discussion are taking place
[16:23] <nijaba> ttx: can I get a coke instead?
[16:23] <ogra> mathiaz, me too :)
[16:23] <dendrobates> ogra: without the randomization, though.
[16:23] <mathiaz> IIUC we'll have to change physical room between discussion
[16:23] <dendrobates> ttx: maybe, sherry.
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[16:24] <zul> dendrobates: do we get a homeroom a la high school?
[16:24] <dendrobates> we have plenty of open spaces and a breakout room for adhoc discussions.
[16:24] <dendrobates> zul: that is a good question/idea.
[16:25] <ogra> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-karmic/ for reference
[16:25] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-karmic/ for reference
[16:26] <mathiaz> ok - any other questions related to UDS?
[16:26] <dendrobates> please note that the sessions can still move around.
[16:28] <ScottK> It's nice that it highlights the ones I'm signed up for ....
[16:28] <kirkland> it's a great list of sessions so far!
[16:29] <mathiaz> there are some free slots left
[16:29] <ttx> kirkland: the server rooms have some of the busiest schedule around.
[16:30] <mathiaz> I'd suggest to go through the server-a and server-b schedule and make sure the topic you wanna talk about are scheduled somewhere
[16:31] <mathiaz> all right - any other ideas/comments/rants about UDS?
[16:32] <mathiaz> nope - let's move one
[16:32] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Open discussion
[16:32] <MootBot> New Topic:  Open discussion
[16:33] <mathiaz> Any other question/ideas?
[16:33] <gourgi> any plans for this in karmic https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebMirrorManager  ?
[16:34] <nijaba> gourgi: there is a talk about such a tool in the platform session
[16:34] <nijaba> gourgi: mvo is leading it IIRC
[16:34] <mathiaz> nijaba: what's the blueprint?
[16:35] <nijaba> mathiaz: hold on
[16:35]  * mathiaz doesn't move
[16:35] <nijaba> mathiaz: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-karmic-repository-management
[16:36] <mathiaz> nijaba: great - thanks for the link
[16:36] <nijaba> oh, I forgot s/platform/foundations/
[16:36] <gourgi> nijaba thank you
[16:36] <nijaba> np
[16:37] <mathiaz> nijaba: I've updated the wiki page to point to the new blueprint in LP
[16:37] <mathiaz> nijaba: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebMirrorManager
[16:37] <nijaba> mathiaz: and I signalled the existence of this bp to mvo
[16:37] <mathiaz> nijaba: right - we already talked about it during the Prague UDS
[16:37] <nijaba> corrext
[16:38] <mathiaz> Anything else?
[16:40] <zul> nope
[16:41] <kirkland> mathiaz: I thought I'd mention to this group that screen-profiles has been renamed to 'byobu'
[16:42] <kirkland> mathiaz: thanks to this group for all the feedback given during screen-profiles-1.x cycle, here's to an even better byobu-2.0 :-)
[16:43] <mathiaz> kirkland: awesome - how did you find the new name?
[16:44] <coffeedude> "bring your own bottled ubuntu" ?
[16:44] <ttx> coffeedude: almost
[16:44] <gourgi> kirkland i love byobu, i'm gonna translate it in greek soon.
[16:44] <nijaba> byobu is an ancient japenese term....
[16:44] <kirkland> mathiaz: nijaba is right!
[16:45] <kirkland> it's a japanese term for elegant folding room dividers, aka folding screens
[16:45] <gourgi> kirkland also server-guide needs update about byobu http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/screen-profiles.html
[16:45] <kirkland> i think this is appropriate, since this is really just a fancier frontend to screen itself
[16:45] <kirkland> gourgi: thanks a lot!  i'm hoping very much to focus on internationalization of byobu for Karmic
[16:45] <kirkland> this will require help from all you non-english speakers :-)
[16:46] <gourgi> kirkland i know, i follow your ppa and blog pretty often
[16:46] <mathiaz> kirkland: you don't speak non-english?
[16:46] <kirkland> gourgi: great
[16:46] <kirkland> mathiaz: i do plan on translating it into Texan, Cajun, and Latin :-P
[16:46] <kirkland> (my other lingos)
[16:46] <kirkland> heh
[16:47] <nijaba> kirkland: I'll do parisian and FR_sl then....
[16:47] <mathiaz> allright -anything else?
[16:47] <kirkland> mathiaz: thanks!
[16:48] <zul> meeting next week?
[16:48] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Agree on next meeting date and time
[16:48] <MootBot> New Topic:  Agree on next meeting date and time
[16:48] <nijaba> just before UDS?  seems tough....
[16:48] <mathiaz> so most of us will be traveling next week
[16:48] <mathiaz> on tuesday
[16:49] <mathiaz> so I suggest we cancel the meeting next week
[16:49] <mathiaz> and then there will be UDS
[16:49] <mathiaz> in two weeks
[16:49] <mathiaz> so I suggest to cancel the meeting in two weeks as well
[16:50] <mathiaz> that brings us to Tuesday June 2nd
[16:50] <mathiaz> so next meeting: Tuesday June 2nd, same place, same time?
[16:50]  * nealmcb will miss you all!
[16:51]  * gourgi hopes for good news from UDS about the local mirrors management :)
[16:51] <kirkland> mathiaz: ack
[16:51] <mathiaz> nealmcb: you can tune in during the UDS discussions
[16:51] <nealmcb> I'll be at google i/o playing with android
[16:52] <nealmcb> but may be able to tune in for a few
[16:53] <mathiaz> all right then
[16:53] <ttx> nealmcb: Tunein, you'll enjoy the incredible audio lag :)
[16:54] <mathiaz> next meeting in three weeks, Tue Jun 2nd, 15:00 UTC, #ubuntu-meeting
[16:54] <mathiaz> thanks for attending
[16:54] <mathiaz> and happy travels to Spain for some of you :)
[16:54] <mathiaz> #endmeeting
[16:55] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:54.