== Agenda == Please take responsibility for an item if you are adding it, thus we can turn to you when the item crops up. :) Chair/Scribe will be: hallyn ## Normal order is alphabetical: daviey hallyn jib kirkland mathiaz smoser spamaps ttx zul ## In case of absence, you take the next one up. Items we will be discussing: * Review ACTION points from previous meeting * ttx to coordinate testing for Alpha 2 * smoser to chase IS regarding cjwatson's access and improving https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEC/Images/Publishing * jjohansen to ask kamal to email ubuntu-server mailing list with results of atop patchset * jjohansen, tim or andy to email ccheney and Daviey with test kernels for bug #588861 * People to subscribe to the test coverage for http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntuserver/all * hggdh to email interested parties about the results of the ppa euca build * jjohansen to follow up on bug #TBC - EC2 kernel (lucid/maverick kernel ?) * zul to mail the ubuntu-server mailing list with the SRU nomination process, and document his process from there * Maverick development (ttx) * Alpha2 [[http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-server-maverick-alpha-2.html|subcycle status]]: Specs should at 90-100% completion now (flag remaining work items needing to be postponed) * Alpha2-milestoned [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+bugs?field.milestone=27560|bugs]]: * Bug Bug:588410: dynamic block storage should use virtio * Bug Bug:595421: Eucalyptus doesn't start with latest stable version of "Groovy" * Bug Bug:574554: tgtd needs init script or upstart job * [[http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-server-maverick-alpha-3.html|Alpha3 subcycle]] starts Friday * Alpha2 [[http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntuserver/all|ISO testing coverage]] (ttx) * smoser: EC2 images * kirkland/Daviey/ccheney: Maverick UEC topologies, UEC Maverick images (on Lucid UEC), Netboot tests * hallyn/mathiaz/SpamapS/zul: non-UEC Ubuntu Server tests, Upgrade server * ttx/hggdh: random testing, cover holes in testing, replace missing people * Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) * Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen) * Bug Bug:588861: "pad block corrupted" error with >=2.6.34 kernel * atop kernel patch * Maverick EC2 kernel issue (LP: #??) * Bug Bug:576066: ums-cypress.ko missing from server installer * Weekly Updates & Questions for the Documentation Team (sommer) * Papercuts status (ttx) * Alpha2 [[https://launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+milestone/maverick-alpha-2|iteration final status]] * Alpha3 [[https://launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+milestone/maverick-alpha-3|iteration]] starts Friday, assign yourself * Weekly SRU review: [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#SRU%20weekly%20review]] (zul) * New [[http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/SRUTracker/sru-tracker-bugs.html|SRU Tracker]] * New SRU process ? * Open Discussion * Announce next meeting date and time * Tuesday 2010-07-06 at 1800 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting Please feel free to add more items to the agenda for the next meeting. We will discuss them in turn when it arrives. == Minutes == ## Use title4 (ie ==== ) for each section of the minutes ## Only topics discussed during the meetings should be put in the minutes. ## Status reporting is done via another channel. ==== Review ACTION points from previous meeting ==== * ttx to coordinate testing for Alpha 2 * done * smoser to chase IS regarding cjwatson's access and improving * done * jjohansen to ask kamal to email ubuntu-server mailing list with results of atop patchset * kamal did basic testing * jjohansen emailed jos, and ttx, and sent an email to k-t for discussion * [ACTION] jjohansen to send email regarding atop patchset * jjohansen, tim or andy to email ccheney and Daviey with test kernels for bug #588861 * this was DONE and fixed. * Daviey notes that the kernel team and ccheney rock * hggdh to email interested parties about the results of the ppa euca build * tests still being run on latest & greatest version of the patch. So far, so good * right now, ~400 instances, no issue * jjohansen to follow up on bug #TBC - EC2 kernel (lucid/maverick kernel ?) * Launchpad bug 597387 in Ubuntu "pv-ops kernel only works in 3 or 4 zones in EC2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597387 * zul to mail the ubuntu-server mailing list with the SRU nomination process, and document his process from there * done ==== Maverick development (ttx) ==== * http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-server-maverick-alpha-2.html * Specs should be at 90-100% now * Alpha2-milestoned bugs * Launchpad bug 588410 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu Maverick) "dynamic block storage should use virtio" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588410 * Launchpad bug 595421 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu Maverick) "Eucalyptus doesn't start with latest stable version of "Groovy"" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595421 * Launchpad bug 574554 in tgt (Ubuntu Maverick) "tgtd needs init script or upstart job" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/574554 * Alpha3 subcycle starts Friday * http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-server-maverick-alpha-3.html * [ACTION] mathiaz to provide work items for Alpha3 on his specs by Thursday * Launchpad bug 586638 in libmemcached (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libmemcached" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586638 * SpamapS to ask kees whether it's good to seed ==== Alpha2 ISO testing coverage (ttx) ==== * alpha2 milestone candidates should hit us RSN * smoser will cover the EC2 images * kirkland/Daviey/ccheney: Maverick UEC topologies, UEC Maverick images (on Lucid UEC), Netboot tests * hallyn/mathiaz/SpamapS/zul: non-UEC Ubuntu Server tests, Upgrade server * ttx/hggdh: random testing, cover holes in testing, replace missing people * ttx will replace mathiaz ==== Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen) ==== * Launchpad bug 588861 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) ""pad block corrupted" error when trying to register an image with 2.6.34 kernel" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588861 * atop kernel patch * will send email to server list * Maverick EC2 kernel issue * at this point we'll have Lucidish kernels in A2 * we will have a kernel for A3 * Launchpad bug 576066 in linux (Ubuntu) "ums_cypress missing from lucid server cd" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576066 * jjohansen will prioritize appropriately ==== Weekly Updates & Questions for the Documentation Team (sommer) ==== * ttx: sommer: did you fix the refresh issue ? * [ACTION] sommer to ping mdke again, through email this time ==== Papercuts status (ttx) ==== * 14 targets - 10 fixed, 2 postponed, 2 invalidated * ttx processed the numerous nominations for A3 and decided to choose 18 among the 18 valid ones * https://launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+milestone/maverick-alpha-3 * You should each have ~2 bugs assigned to you in that list * [ACTION] everyone to assign themselves to 2 papercuts from https://launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+milestone/maverick-alpha-3 ==== Weekly SRU review: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#SRU%20weekly%20review (zul) ==== * http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/fixedbugs.ubuntu-server.latest.html * Launchpad bug 576949 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (Ubuntu) "[lucid] LOAD DATA INFILE fails in replication, simple patch available in 5.1.43" [Medium,In progress] * zul+ttx agree it is a candidate * Launchpad bug 597818 in dovecot (Ubuntu) "Include files parsed in reverse order" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597818 * zul says looks good to him * Launchpad bug 589056 in net-snmp (Ubuntu) "snmpd fails to upgrade" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/589056 * ttx will nominate for lucid ==== Agree on next meeting date and time ==== Next meeting will be on Tuesday, July 6th at 15:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting. == Log == {{{ [19:00] #startmeeting [19:00] ttx: I thought the deal was scribe + chair? [19:00] hm, didn't work [19:00] yes, it's scribe+chair, the same meeting [19:00] * SpamapS hugs hallyn :) [19:00] MootBot is not around [19:00] how do we start it? [19:01] hallyn: We'll have to do without :( [19:01] hallyn: you don't, you do without ! [19:01] uh, ok [19:01] first time driving, and no brakes [19:01] i'll just pretend it's there [19:01] I'm sure daviey can emulate the bot [19:01] [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting [19:01] Meeting started at 07:59. The chair is hallyn :) [19:01] ttx to coordinate testing for Alpha 2 [19:02] added as an agenda item, will be covered during this meeting [19:02] so consider it DONE [19:02] cool [19:02] smoser to chase IS regarding cjwatson's access and improving [19:02] DONE [19:02] cooler [19:02] (I'll proxy smoser [19:02] ) [19:02] jjohansen to ask kamal to email ubuntu-server mailing list with results of atop patchset [19:03] so the email, so i assume that's done [19:03] ah? [19:03] oh no [19:03] right, he did basic testing and handed it back to me [19:03] so status? [19:03] I emailed jos, and ttx, and sent an email to k-t for discussion [19:03] jjohansen: so it's still todo, but on your side ? [19:03] yes, the discussion is really been stalled by alpha2 [19:04] jjohansen: ack === bjf[afk] is now known as bjf [19:04] so action for next week, or wait until alpha3 to do that? [19:04] I will send a mail today [19:04] Basically server team needs to decide if atop is worth it [19:04] [ACTION] jjohansen to send email regarding atop patchset [19:05] ok, thanks, moving on [19:05] jjohansen, tim or andy to email ccheney and Daviey with test kernels for bug #588861 [19:05] Launchpad bug 588861 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) ""pad block corrupted" error when trying to register an image with 2.6.34 kernel" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588861 [19:05] that was fully bisected right? [19:05] this was DONE and fixed. [19:05] Yup.. the kernel team and ccheney rock! [19:05] yeah, tim rocks [19:06] rockin' [19:06] People to subscribe to the test coverage for http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntuserver/all [19:06] ttx: do you know if everyone is subscribed? :) [19:06] not really DONE, so I decided to split the work myself, see below [19:06] (makes more sense anywayà [19:06] ) [19:07] ok i see it thx [19:07] hggdh to email interested parties about the results of the ppa euca build [19:07] tests still being run on latest & greatest version of the patch. So far, so good [19:08] \o/ [19:08] so carry over? [19:08] hallyn: no [19:08] I hope I will have a position in about 30 min [19:08] right now, ~400 instances, no issue [19:08] Keep in mind that upstream just confirmed that they aren't *entirely confident* it fixed it.. but think it has [19:09] considering we started with failures in less than 100 instances, this is a big improvement [19:09] so... the tests are still running... any action to track? [19:09] hallyn: no [19:09] k [19:09] jjohansen to follow up on bug #TBC - EC2 kernel (lucid/maverick kernel ?) [19:09] ^^ a bug was opened about that. [19:09] Daviey: LP:#? [19:10] give me a sec, to find it again [19:10] it was at the end of the last meeting.. /me glares at the scribe :) [19:10] Bug #597387 [19:10] Launchpad bug 597387 in Ubuntu "pv-ops kernel only works in 3 or 4 zones in EC2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597387 [19:11] I have a new kernel I am building and will be testing in just a little but [19:11] s/but/bit/ [19:11] jjohansen: ok, we'll discuss that later in the meeting [19:11] ok thanks. moving on [19:11] zul to mail the ubuntu-server mailing list with the SRU nomination process, and document his process from there [19:12] done [19:12] * hallyn craftily evades Daviey's glare [19:12] ok, thanks [19:12] [TOPIC] Maverick development (ttx) [19:12] Alpha2 subcycle status [19:12] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-server-maverick-alpha-2.html [19:12] Specs should be at 90-100% now [19:12] Only two days left [19:13] Please see the remaining work items and let me know if you can't make it [19:13] Alpha2-milestoned bugs [19:13] so all must be done by EOD thursday? or start of day? [19:13] the sooner the better -- there are a few documentation items that can be completed eod [19:13] (or bug triage) [19:14] Bug 588410: dynamic block storage should use virtio [19:14] Launchpad bug 588410 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu Maverick) "dynamic block storage should use virtio" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588410 [19:14] Bug 595421: Eucalyptus doesn't start with latest stable version of "Groovy" [19:14] Launchpad bug 595421 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu Maverick) "Eucalyptus doesn't start with latest stable version of "Groovy"" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595421 [19:14] It was fixed in bzr ages ago, pending a 1.7 upload. However, that has been blocked by some known issues. Therefore i'm doing an unwanted of upload of 1.6.2 with the 2 fixes for Bug 588410 and Bug 595421 before EoD. [19:14] ttx: I have a lot of MIR's that are still under consideration/undone .. do those have to be accepted into main by thursday? [19:14] Daviey: good ! [19:15] SpamapS: it's part of the feature delivery, so yes... but that's hardly your fault if you pushed them as much as you could [19:15] SpamapS: if we have to postpone such items, I can bring it to the release meeting to point out a resource shortage [19:16] (but it's a well known one) [19:16] Bug 574554: tgtd needs init script or upstart job [19:16] Launchpad bug 574554 in tgt (Ubuntu Maverick) "tgtd needs init script or upstart job" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/574554 [19:16] same situation here [19:16] ttx: I'll poke them all today then. [19:16] though I wonder why this one was targeted to alpha-2 [19:16] if I may interrupt -- test run completed, 400 instances, no occurrence of the metadata issue. Of course, we are talking about a race, but I vote we consider it a success [19:16] Daviey: any clue ? [19:17] \o/ [19:17] w00t [19:17] Daviey: you need tgtd for something in UEC ? [19:17] ttx: nothing to do with me :/ [19:17] ... ok [19:17] i have to update the tgtd upstart script [19:17] will ask kirkland when I get a chance [19:18] Alpha3 subcycle starts Friday [19:18] Hmm.. iSCSI is on our roadmap.. but i wasn't aware tgtd was a target for A2 [19:18] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-server-maverick-alpha-3.html [19:18] Please have a look at your specs and make sure the work items for Alpha-3 are current [19:18] I already had a look and most of them are ok, except mathiaz's ones [19:19] ttx: bug#586638 .. do I need to do something to complete the MIR? Kees gave it a +1 [19:19] [ACTION] mathiaz to provide work items for Alpha3 on his specs by Thursday [19:19] bug 586638 [19:19] Launchpad bug 586638 in libmemcached (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libmemcached" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586638 [19:19] ttx: Hmm.. I wasn't aware server-maverick-uec-monitoring was re-assigned to me :/ [19:19] SpamapS: ask him if it's good to seed or if it was just a security ack [19:20] SpamapS: zul can handle the seeding for you if that's all what is needed [19:20] ack [19:20] Daviey: sync with kirkland on that one [19:21] ttx: will do [19:21] hallyn: done [19:21] [TOPIC] ISO testing coverage (ttx) [19:21] uh, [19:21] [TOPIC] Alpha2 ISO testing coverage (ttx) [19:21] ok, so alpha2 milestone candidates should hit us RSN [19:21] and we just start getting emails? [19:22] I split the team in subteams to make sure we do a complete coverage of server deliveries [19:22] hallyn: yes, we should [19:22] (if you're assigned to at least one test) [19:22] smoser will cover the EC2 images [19:22] (which i am) cool, thx [19:22] kirkland/Daviey/ccheney: Maverick UEC topologies, UEC Maverick images (on Lucid UEC), Netboot tests [19:22] hallyn/mathiaz/SpamapS/zul: non-UEC Ubuntu Server tests, Upgrade server [19:22] ttx/hggdh: random testing, cover holes in testing, replace missing people [19:23] yay! [19:23] zul: If you get bored, i'm sure we can find some UEC tests for you! :) [19:23] the last team needs to get a picture of the general QA level, so it's more free-form [19:23] that said, we know that hggdh will concentarte on UEC [19:23] for the time being [19:23] * hggdh sighs ;-) [19:24] and I'll replace mathiaz [19:24] for A2 [19:24] Just coordinate with members of your subteam to avoid duplicate testing [19:24] poor mathiaz [19:24] (deuplicate testing is good, but once we are at 100% coverage) [19:24] ttx: zul: re: tftd upstart script, not required for A2, I targeted it there as I thought zul/ccheney might be able to accomplish it within their given resources for A2; postponing to A3 is fine by me [19:24] kirkland: ok, thanks [19:25] moving on? [19:25] If any of this coordination is unclear, let me know [19:25] also ISO testing is open to everyone... this is just to ensure that all tests are covered by at least one person :) [19:25] hallyn: yes [19:26] thanks [19:26] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [19:26] if a tree falls in a forest... [19:26] I spent the last week on a sprint in Lexington; most work done, some left-overs to look at [19:27] anyone have any questions? [19:27] during this time I kept on testing the metadata fix(es) [19:28] (going once, going twice) [19:28] thanks hggdh [19:28] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen) [19:28] Bug 588861: "pad block corrupted" error with >=2.6.34 kernel [19:28] Launchpad bug 588861 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) ""pad block corrupted" error when trying to register an image with 2.6.34 kernel" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588861 [19:28] (\o/) [19:28] lol, we just wanted to see the 'fix committed' :) [19:28] :) [19:28] atop kernel patch [19:29] we're just waiting for the email to discuss there? [19:29] yes [19:29] its been built and tested email to server team list for discussion being composed [19:29] see if there is a real interest in this [19:29] any other questions for or from jjohansen ? [19:29] Maverick EC2 kernel issue [19:30] so at this point we'll have Lucidish kernels in A2 [19:30] right [19:30] (for cloud images) [19:30] The idea would be to fix that for A3 ? [19:30] heh [19:30] or another plan ? [19:30] yes we will have a kernel for A3 [19:30] it is likely to be the full xen kernel, [19:31] ok, I'll mark that bug appropriately [19:31] fianlly wanted to raise to your attention: [19:31] Bug 576066: ums-cypress.ko missing from server installer [19:31] Launchpad bug 576066 in linux (Ubuntu) "ums_cypress missing from lucid server cd" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576066 [19:31] Sounds like a good thing to fix for 10.04.1 [19:32] jjohansen: can you prioritize it appropriately ? [19:32] yes [19:32] ok, I'm done :) [19:32] moving on [19:32] (thanks, jjohansen :) [19:33] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Documentation Team (sommer) [19:33] don't have anything new myself... [19:33] sommer: You rock. [19:33] if anyone else does though feel free [19:33] sommer: did you fix the refresh issue ? [19:33] i have a feeling i should have a question at some point oabout lxc, but need to read up on processes first... [19:33] Daviey: :-) [19:34] ttx: I'll ping mdke again, through email this time [19:34] sommer: ok :) [19:34] thanks sommer [19:34] [TOPIC] Papercuts status (ttx) [19:34] thank you all [19:34] sommer: Agg! [19:34] hold fire! [19:34] Alpha2 iteration is finished [19:35] 14 targets - 10 fixed, 2 postponed, 2 invalidated [19:35] sommer: Hmm, an update you mentioned in a bug didn't seem to go live.. do you know what happend? [19:35] I processed the numerous nominations for A3 and decided to choose 18 among the 18 valid ones [19:35] (tough choices involved) [19:35] Daviey: was it fixed in maverick or lucid? [19:35] https://launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+milestone/maverick-alpha-3 [19:36] You should each have ~2 bugs assigned to you in that list [19:36] The easy ones are going fast :) [19:36] so [ACTION] everyone pick 2 or 3 papercuts? [19:36] This iteration ends up Aug 2nd [19:37] hallyn: yes [19:37] say, 2 [19:37] ok, thanks [19:37] [ACTION] everyone to assign themselves to 2 papercuts from https://launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+milestone/maverick-alpha-3 [19:37] moving on? [19:37] yep [19:37] [TOPIC] Weekly SRU review: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#SRU%20weekly%20review (zul) [19:38] is that moot given new email process? [19:38] well, I haven't seen the monday email yet [19:38] starting next week :) [19:38] i thought i saw it last night [19:38] so I figure we are still up for this one [19:38] (wow, what on earth is going on with me and my mbox) [19:38] so one is nominated for lucid [19:39] #576949 [19:39] where are the bots to expand bug # 576949 [19:39] i think its a good candidate [19:39] huh [19:39] zul: looks like a good one [19:39] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.1/+bug/576949 [19:39] Launchpad bug 576949 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (Ubuntu) "[lucid] LOAD DATA INFILE fails in replication, simple patch available in 5.1.43" [Medium,In progress] [19:40] bots like it as bug 576949 [19:40] Launchpad bug 576949 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (Ubuntu) "[lucid] LOAD DATA INFILE fails in replication, simple patch available in 5.1.43" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576949 [19:40] :) [19:40] and last 8 days bug [19:40] bugs even [19:40] http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/fixedbugs.ubuntu-server.latest.html [19:41] bug 597818 597818 looks good to me [19:41] Launchpad bug 597818 in dovecot (Ubuntu) "Include files parsed in reverse order" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597818 [19:42] does bug 589056 need to be fixed in lucid ? [19:42] Launchpad bug 589056 in net-snmp (Ubuntu) "snmpd fails to upgrade" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/589056 [19:42] yes i think so [19:42] ok, nominate it [19:42] k [19:43] I think we are done [19:43] [TOPIC] Open Discussion [19:43] nothin' 'ere [19:43] Did everyone but hggdh lose in soccer ? [19:43] :-) [19:43] * hallyn pouts [19:43] ttx: Your team lost first :) [19:43] i did... [19:44] heh [19:44] Daviey: always first. [19:44] [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time [19:44] Germany did teach our country a lesson.. that we suck. [19:44] Daviey: and we lost with lots of panache. [19:44] Tuesday 2010-07-06 at 1800 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting [19:44] sorry I was a little slow reading SRU's, bug 575458 looks worthy of consideration [19:44] Launchpad bug 575458 in ntp (Ubuntu) "/etc/dhcp3/dhclient-exit-hooks.d/ntp breaks local NTP server (patch)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575458 [19:44] and -- please keep in mind -- next friday I will sort of busy in the morning [19:45] SpamapS: good catch [19:45] hm, yeah [19:45] zul ^ [19:45] acked [19:46] anything more to discuss? [19:46] nope [19:47] #endmeeting (thanks, DavieyBot) [19:47] hah. [19:47] Daviey: so i gather i'm scribe again this week then right? [19:47] hallyn: no, SpamapS should be [19:47] hallyn: yes [19:47] Daviey: no [19:48] Daviey took advantage of me last week :) [19:48] np, thanks [19:48] ttx: ok -> lets chat about it :) }}}