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[19:04] <SpamapS> #startmeeting [19:04] <MootBot> Meeting started at 13:04. The chair is SpamapS. [19:04] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [19:04] <jiboumans> thanks all for joining [19:04] <jiboumans> i'm today's chair and scribe [19:05] * SpamapS is the chair proxy [19:05] <jiboumans> I'll have to possibly leave a bit early, at which point SpamapS will continue (thanks for that) [19:05] <SpamapS> jiboumans: agenda url so I can keep up w/ your topics? [19:05] <jiboumans> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting === rsalveti-afk is now known as rsalveti [19:05] <SpamapS> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting [19:05] <jiboumans> jjohansen to send email regarding atop patchset [19:05] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting [19:05] <MootBot> New Topic: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [19:05] <jiboumans> that was done [19:05] <Daviey> \o [19:06] <jiboumans> mathiaz to provide work items for Alpha3 on his specs by Thursday [19:06] <jiboumans> while mathiaz answers [19:06] <jiboumans> SpamapS to ask kees whether it's good to seed [19:06] <SpamapS> Kees says ok to seed libmemcached and memcached into main [19:06] <mathiaz> that was done [19:06] <SpamapS> [19:07] <jiboumans> spamaps++ [19:07] <jiboumans> nice, good to have it [19:07] <jiboumans> jjohansen to appropriately prioritze bug 576066 [19:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 576066 in linux (Ubuntu) "ums_cypress missing from lucid server cd" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576066 [19:07] <jjohansen> the kernel team needs some clarification on the bug [19:07] <jiboumans> jjohansen: anything we can do in the meeting here? [19:07] <jjohansen> maybe [19:08] <jjohansen> we were looking for what releases and cd's needed the update [19:08] <jiboumans> ok, let's talk about it right after the other action point [19:08] <jjohansen> Lucid server install, alternate, maverick [19:08] <jjohansen> from a quick look this seems to be present in maverick [19:08] <jjohansen> but I don't have the hardware to test [19:08] <jjohansen> so we were going to request that as well [19:08] * zkriesse walk into the maverick meeting? [19:09] <jiboumans> zkriesse: ubuntu server team meeting [19:09] <jiboumans> jjohansen: does our QA team have it per chance? [19:09] <MichealH> ogra_cmpc: Its in 2 hours acctually [19:09] <zkriesse> oh cool [19:09] <jiboumans> hggdh: ^ [19:09] <MichealH> jiboumans: Its not on the calendar?!? [19:09] <jjohansen> jiboumans, hggdh: I haven't checked yet [19:10] <jiboumans> jjohansen: let's move this over to next week then [19:10] <jiboumans> gives you some time to consult and check with hggdh if they have the hardware [19:10] <jjohansen> okay, thanks [19:10] <jiboumans> sommer to ping mdke re: refresh issue, through email this time [19:11] <SpamapS> [ACTION] hrough email this time [19:11] <MootBot> ACTION received: hrough email this time [19:11] <SpamapS> 11:14 ... join!#ubuntu-meeting -> ikoni [19:11] <SpamapS> doh [19:11] <sommer> haven't heard back on that... will ping again [19:11] <jiboumans> ok, carry over [19:11] <SpamapS> [ACTION] sommer to ping mdke re: refresh issue, through email this time [19:11] <MootBot> ACTION received: sommer to ping mdke re: refresh issue, through email this time [19:11] <jiboumans> sommer: if we can help somehow, please ask [19:11] <jiboumans> everyone to assign themselves to 2 papercuts from https://launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+milestone/maverick-alpha-3 [19:11] <zkriesse> If you guys are trying to get ahold of mdke it'll take some time [19:11] <jiboumans> only https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125609 left [19:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 125609 in irqbalance (Ubuntu) "X is required to build irqbalance" [Low,Triaged] [19:12] <jiboumans> zkriesse: why's that? [19:12] <zul> ill take it [19:12] <jiboumans> zul++ thanks [19:12] <zkriesse> jiboumans: Last few times i've tried contacting him through email/irc he's not responded [19:13] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Maverick development [19:13] <MootBot> New Topic: Maverick development [19:14] <jiboumans> I've sent out a request to update blueprints [19:14] <jiboumans> not everyone has done so yet unfortunately [19:14] <mathiaz> I've worked on creating a status template [19:14] <kirkland> jiboumans: do you have specific BP's in mind? [19:14] <jiboumans> [ACTION] kirkland, daviey, hallyn, zul, ttx, spamaps to update their blueprints by Wednesday EOB [19:14] <hallyn> jiboumans: maybe there's more to 'updating' them than i thought? is there a url telling us what needs to be doen? [19:14] <jiboumans> kirkland: i sent a mail on that last week adn again today [19:15] <kirkland> jiboumans: i touched all of my BP's ... which BP need love, and what love do they need? [19:15] <jiboumans> hallyn: [SERVER] [ACTION REQUIRED] Alpha3 blueprint updates [19:15] <mathiaz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/459941/ [19:15] <MootBot> LINK received: http://paste.ubuntu.com/459941/ [19:15] <SpamapS> jiboumans: is it just status that needs to be updated at this time? I think a lot of the 1st work items will spawn the rest of the work items that get burned down through the cycle. [19:15] <Daviey> jiboumans, I had some uncertainly about who owns the blueprint.. is it the drafter? [19:15] <Daviey> or the assignee? [19:15] <jiboumans> All: this is outlined in the email I sent. If it's unclear, please respond with questions. [19:16] <jiboumans> Please see the above email and I'm happy to pick this up with you 1:1 if there's any unclarity after the meeting today [19:16] <hallyn> mathiaz: thx [19:16] <Daviey> jiboumans, In either case, i looked at my blueprints and they seemed current. [19:16] <jiboumans> Daviey: there's also an action to send out an email [19:16] <jiboumans> moving on [19:17] <jiboumans> we'll take a look at the actual progress on alpha3 next week when all specs are completely specified [19:17] <jiboumans> as hggdh is running a bit late today, we'll move on to the kernel team next: [19:17] <jiboumans> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen) [19:18] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen) [19:18] <MootBot> New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen) [19:18] <jiboumans> jjohansen: first, Bug 597387: Maverick EC2 kernel issue [19:18] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 597387 in Ubuntu Maverick "pv-ops kernel only works in 3 or 4 zones in EC2" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597387 [19:18] <mathiaz> jjohansen: you guyz rock - my TP x201 is working now! [19:18] <jjohansen> I have update the Xen kernel patch and will be doing some testing today, so we should have a new kernel soon [19:19] <jjohansen> the pv-ops kernel is further behind [19:19] <zul> yay...keep it away [19:19] <jjohansen> I plan to start testing that option again once we have the Xen kernel up [19:19] <SpamapS> [ACTION] kirkland, daviey, hallyn, zul, ttx, spamaps to update their blueprints by Wednesday EOB [19:19] <MootBot> ACTION received: kirkland, daviey, hallyn, zul, ttx, spamaps to update their blueprints by Wednesday EOB [19:20] <jjohansen> any other Qs? [19:20] <zul> nope [19:20] <mathiaz> jjohansen: great work on bug 554569 [19:20] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 554569 in linux (Ubuntu) "[lucid] Blank screen with KMS on Thinkpad X201 with Arrandale (i915)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/554569 [19:20] <mathiaz> jjohansen: (but it's not server related ) [19:21] <mathiaz> jjohansen: would this rolled out to lucid as an SRU? [19:21] <jjohansen> ubottu: have you tried the latest kernels, there have been some updates to maverick that fix that for many people [19:21] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent [19:21] <jjohansen> hey [19:21] <jiboumans> ubottu++ [19:22] <mathiaz> jjohansen: ok - I'm still running lucid [19:22] <mathiaz> jjohansen: anyway - that's outside of this meeting [19:22] <mathiaz> I've got nothing else for the kernel team [19:22] <jiboumans> jjohansen: Bug 576066: ums-cypress.ko missing from server installer [19:22] <jjohansen> mathiaz: okay, yeah lucid is problematic as its a rather large patchset [19:22] <SpamapS> so were we revisiting the cypress bug in this section? [19:22] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 576066 in linux (Ubuntu) "ums_cypress missing from lucid server cd" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576066 [19:22] <netshine> the meeting is more two hours, right? [19:22] <jjohansen> jiboumans: right, discussed earlier [19:23] <MichealH> netshine: in 1:30 hours: EMEA meeting [19:23] <hallyn> jjohansen: and the apparmor permission denied bug? [19:23] <netshine> exactly, thanks [19:23] <jiboumans> jjohansen: oh, i must have missed that in scrollback [19:23] <netshine> MichealH: [19:23] <jjohansen> its just a matter of clearing up some questions, a Lucid update is a few weeks a way [19:23] <MichealH> netshine: Or visit http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar [19:23] <jjohansen> hallyn: which permission denied bug? [19:23] <hallyn> bug 599450 [19:23] <jiboumans> jjohansen: last one then atop kernel patch [19:23] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 599450 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) "[apparmor] getattr handled incorrectly in 2.6.35-6.7" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/599450 [19:23] <jiboumans> I saw your email going out; did you get any useful feedback? [19:24] <SpamapS> [ACTION] (carryover) jjohansen to appropriately prioritze bug 576066 [19:24] <MootBot> ACTION received: (carryover) jjohansen to appropriately prioritze bug 576066 [19:24] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 576066 in linux (Ubuntu) "ums_cypress missing from lucid server cd" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/576066 [19:24] <hallyn> jjohansen: just wondering if you know the cause already (or if it's worth my digging into) [19:25] <jjohansen> jiboumans: atop, just needs discussion. As it currently stands the kernel team is relucant to carry it, and is looking for use cases/ why atop is so much better than other solutions [19:25] <jiboumans> jjohansen: understood. I'd hate for a patch to be unmaintained upstream of course [19:25] <jjohansen> hallyn: yep, I know the cause, and need to discuss it on apparmor dev [19:26] <hallyn> ok thanks [19:26] <jjohansen> jiboumans: I received a reply from the author on the weekend and he might try pushing it upstream again in the fall [19:26] <jjohansen> he is busy this summer it seems [19:26] <jjohansen> I am composing a reply [19:26] <jiboumans> jjohansen: thanks for chasing it either way [19:26] <jiboumans> let's revisit again next week [19:27] <jiboumans> jjohansen++ thanks [19:27] <jjohansen> yes [19:27] <jiboumans> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Documentation Team (sommer) [19:27] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [19:27] <MootBot> New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [19:27] <sommer> nadda new from me [19:27] <SpamapS> oops [19:27] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Documentation Team (sommer) [19:27] <MootBot> New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Documentation Team (sommer) [19:28] <jiboumans> that's an easy topic then [19:28] <SpamapS> sommer: I had a user confused by the CUPS section of the server guide this morning in #ubuntu-server [19:28] <jiboumans> any questions for mr sommer? [19:28] <SpamapS> sommer: should I send him to a particular page to report that as a "bug" ? [19:28] <ttx> o/ [19:28] <sommer> SpamapS: if he files it against ubuntu-docs that should be fine [19:29] * ttx just arrived [19:29] <MichealH> ttx: o/ [19:29] <SpamapS> sommer: ubuntu-docs, got it. Thx. [19:29] <sommer> welcome [19:29] * SpamapS feels a disturbance in the force suddenly [19:30] <jiboumans> [TOPIC] Weekly SRU review: new process (zul) [19:30] <zul> so I sent out the email on monday I havent gotten any nominations so far this week [19:30] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Weekly SRU review: new process (zul) [19:30] <MootBot> New Topic: Weekly SRU review: new process (zul) [19:30] <jiboumans> zul: as in yesterday? [19:30] <zul> people have until friday to nominate but looking at the bugs there wasnt any good ones to nominate [19:31] <zul> jiboumans: yes as in yesterday [19:31] <zul> and ill be doing some SRU gardening on friday as well to go through really old SRU requests to see if they are still relevant [19:31] <mathiaz> zul: is there a link where the SRU tracker page is updated on a regular basis? [19:32] <jiboumans> zul: so a reminder in the notes is probably the best we can do right now? [19:32] <jiboumans> mathiaz: http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/SRUTracker/sru-tracker-bugs.html i believe [19:32] <zul> mathiaz: http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/SRUTracker/sru-tracker-bugs.html [19:32] <zul> jiboumans: probably [19:32] <jiboumans> zul: ok, i'll make a point to highlight it in the notes [19:32] <jiboumans> hggdh: are you around? [19:33] <jiboumans> idle time suggests not [19:33] <mathiaz> zul: how often is the page refreshed? [19:33] <zul> mathiaz: every night [19:33] <jiboumans> we'll make sure to document any questions though so hggdh can address them later [19:33] <jiboumans> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [19:33] <jiboumans> any questsion for hggdh ? [19:33] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [19:33] <MootBot> New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [19:34] <jiboumans> going once... [19:34] <jiboumans> going twice.. [19:34] <jiboumans> alright then, moving on: [19:34] <jiboumans> [TOPIC] Open Discussion [19:34] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Open Discussion [19:34] <MootBot> New Topic: Open Discussion [19:35] <mathiaz> how is everyone doing? [19:35] <SpamapS> stupdendous over here [19:35] <Daviey> Tired here [19:35] <jiboumans> Regarding the alpha3 blueprints; please take a look at the mail. I'll schedule an open call tomorrow morning PST for any questions. Email also works if there's anything unclear. Thanks [19:36] <Daviey> jiboumans, to list or direct? [19:36] <jiboumans> fog's lifted, seeing the sun again [19:36] <jiboumans> Daviey: feel free to ask direct [19:36] <Daviey> ok, thanks [19:36] <zul> jiboumans: i wont be there btw [19:36] <SpamapS> I'm a little unclear on the seed to main process [19:36] <SpamapS> Is that just something that I need to have sponsored? [19:36] <jiboumans> zul: no problem, it's only if you ahve questions. feel free to send those over email, irc or any other way [19:37] <mathiaz> SpamapS: thanks - I've just learned a new word today! [19:37] <mathiaz> SpamapS: stupdendous [19:37] <mathiaz> SpamapS: yes [19:37] <mathiaz> SpamapS: seeds are bzr branches [19:37] <mathiaz> SpamapS: so you can branch them and then submit a merge proposal through LP [19:37] <SpamapS> Ah ok so branch, merge request, etc? [19:38] <SpamapS> mathiaz: well then I may have something for you on Thursday. [19:38] <SpamapS> jiboumans: are we ready to talk about rubygems yet? [19:38] <mathiaz> SpamapS: great [19:38] <jiboumans> SpamapS: i think some preparation is required there [19:38] <zul> SpamapS: gah? [19:38] <Daviey> Is this something that would be better on ubuntu-server ML? [19:38] <SpamapS> jiboumans: agreed... I'd like it to be an action point on somebody's radar .. so many angry users.. [19:39] <SpamapS> Daviey: probably. [19:39] <jiboumans> [ACTION] SpamapS to prepare suggestion around improving rubygems [19:39] <jiboumans> spamaps: well volunteered [19:39] <mathiaz> zul: where is the SRU tracker code? [19:39] <SpamapS> [ACTION] SpamapS to prepare suggestion around improving rubygems [19:39] <MootBot> ACTION received: SpamapS to prepare suggestion around improving rubygems [19:39] <zul> launchpad.net/server-sru-tracker [19:39] <mathiaz> zul: great - thanks [19:39] * SpamapS has always thought his neck sticks out a bit too much. [19:40] <jiboumans> any other topics? [19:40] <hallyn> zul: iiuc i need to nominate bug 588293 for sru [19:40] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 588293 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Lucid) "iovec array memory leak" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588293 [19:40] <mathiaz> SpamapS: debian bug 403407 [19:40] <ubottu> Debian bug 403407 in libgems-ruby "rubygems: gems are installed in /var/lib/gems/X.Y/bin, which is not in $PATH" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/403407 [19:40] <mathiaz> SpamapS: this is your starting point [19:41] <SpamapS> mathiaz: cool thanks. [19:41] <zul> hallyn: please send an email to ubuntu server ml [19:41] <hallyn> zul: kthx [19:41] <jiboumans> [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time [19:41] <jiboumans> Tuesday 2010-07-13 at 1800 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting [19:41] * ttx puts his head in the sand to avoid seeing rubygems [19:41] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time [19:41] <MootBot> New Topic: Announce next meeting date and time [19:41] <SpamapS> Tuesday 2010-07-13 at 1800 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting [19:41] <jiboumans> and that's all she wrote [19:41] <jiboumans> thanks all for attending! [19:41] <SpamapS> #endmeeting [19:41] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 13:41.