Agenda

Minutes

Meeting Actions

Review ACTION points from previous meeting

Maverick development (jib)

release status, the road to 10.10.10 release (ttx)

Natty preparation (jib)

Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)

Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen)

Weekly Updates & Questions for the Documentation Team (sommer)

Weekly Updates & Questions for the Ubuntu Community Team (kim0)

Open Discussion

Announce next meeting date and time

Agree on next meeting date and time

Next meeting will be on Tuesday, April 14th at 18:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting.

Log

[19:00] <kirkland> #startmeeting
[19:00] <Daviey> o/
[19:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 13:00. The chair is kirkland.
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[19:00] <kirkland> [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[19:00] <MootBot> New Topic:  Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[19:00] <kirkland> hmm, i don't see any outstanding actions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting
[19:01] <kirkland> in which case, if there are none, I suppose we'll just move on
[19:01]  * kirkland checks log
[19:01] <kirkland> ah, here are a couple
[19:01] <kirkland> --> SpamapS to chase drizzle in maverick decide between "broken" and "removed" with slight possibility of "beta"
[19:01] <kirkland> SpamapS: ?
[19:02] <SpamapS> sorry
[19:02] <SpamapS> drizzle is out of maverick
[19:02] <kirkland> SpamapS: carry over to next week?
[19:02] <SpamapS> removed earlier this week
[19:02] <kirkland> SpamapS: alrighty, done?
[19:02] <SpamapS> In discussing the beta period with their developers, its better this way. :)
[19:02] <SpamapS> kirkland: yes done
[19:02] <kirkland> thanks
[19:02] <kirkland> --> jiboumans to send an email to ubuntu-server@ and/or blog post for call for ideas
[19:03] <kirkland> jiboumans: ?
[19:03] <jiboumans> kirkland: not done </shame>
[19:03] <kirkland> jiboumans: carry over to next week?
[19:03] <smoser> o/
[19:03] <jiboumans> kirkland: i'll do so today
[19:03] <kirkland> jiboumans: k
[19:03] <kirkland> [ACTION] jiboumans to send an email to ubuntu-server@ and/or blog post for call for ideas
[19:03] <MootBot> ACTION received:  jiboumans to send an email to ubuntu-server@ and/or blog post for call for ideas
[19:03] <kirkland> --> mathiaz to send out a call for ideas on ubuntu to the puppet community
[19:03] <kirkland> mathiaz: ?
[19:03] <mathiaz> kirkland: carry over
[19:03] <mathiaz> kirkland: I'll do it later today
[19:04] <mathiaz> (just to copy jiboumans )
[19:04] <kirkland> mathiaz: alrighty
[19:04] <kirkland> [ACTION] (carryover) (carryover) mathiaz to send out a call for ideas on ubuntu to the puppet community
[19:04] <MootBot> ACTION received:  (carryover) (carryover) mathiaz to send out a call for ideas on ubuntu to the puppet community
[19:04]  * kirkland worries about a buffer overflow on that one :-)
[19:05] <kirkland> [TOPIC] Maverick development - jiboumans
[19:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  Maverick development - jiboumans
[19:05] <jiboumans> not much to say right now; we're winding down
[19:05] <zul> yay!
[19:05] <kirkland> release status -- ttx
[19:05] <jiboumans> ttx is at the release spring in london while i'm detained in the US
[19:05] <jiboumans> all his :)
[19:06] <ttx> Mostly in good shape, nothing critical in the daily bug triage
[19:06] <ttx> a couple of FTBFS... one in likewise-open I fixed on Monday, the other is axis2c
[19:06] <ttx> We'll probably postpone that one since it's such a PITA to get right
[19:06]  * Daviey screams
[19:07] <ttx> Daviey: do you agree ?
[19:07] <kirkland> ttx: yeah, i think i've looked at that one, if its the one i'm thinking of :-/
[19:07] <ttx> kirkland: yes, THAT one.
[19:07] <Daviey> ttx, yes - doko also inestigating
[19:07] <kirkland> ttx: ugh
[19:07] <Daviey> investigating*
[19:07] <ttx> The other is Bug 653154
[19:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 653154 in dovecot (Ubuntu Maverick) "package mail-stack-delivery (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653154
[19:07] <ttx> but is about to be debunked as "not-reproduced"
[19:07] <ttx> Daviey: right ?
[19:08] <Daviey> yah
[19:08] <Daviey> will do shortly
[19:08] <ttx> so we don't have any fix queued for release now.
[19:08] <ttx> (as of now)
[19:08] <ttx> next topic :)
[19:08] <Daviey> \o/
[19:08] <kirkland> ttx: thanks
[19:08] <kirkland> [TOPIC] The road to 10.10.10 release (ttx)
[19:08] <MootBot> New Topic:  The road to 10.10.10 release (ttx)
[19:08] <SpamapS> Actualy I think  bug 653154 might have a duplicate
[19:08] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 653154 in dovecot (Ubuntu Maverick) "package mail-stack-delivery (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653154
[19:08] <kirkland> ttx: looking forward?
[19:09] <ttx> ISOs should hit tomorrow.
[19:09] <ttx> so it will be ISO testing season again
[19:09]  * hggdh is happy
[19:09] <ttx> and hopefully we'll be set by Friday
[19:09] <smoser> ttx, are there bugs not included yet that are targetted ?
[19:10] <smoser> (probably I should know the link to such things, but shame on me)
[19:10] <ttx> smoser: the only other bug in the list that we might consider is Bug 617496
[19:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 617496 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu Maverick) "'stop eucalyptus' should also stop all -publication services" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/617496
[19:10] <ttx> the url is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus
[19:10] <ttx> please make sure to raise any bug you stumble upon in daily triage
[19:10] <kirkland> ttx: okay, so every should prime their ISO cache today using TestDrive, and just incrementally sync the diff tomorrow, right?  ;-)
[19:11] <ttx> that would critically affect maverick
[19:11] <SpamapS> ttx: bug 653362 Is I think the duplicate
[19:11] <ttx> kirkland: yes :) unfortunately my laptop is utterly slow, I need to switch to onf of those SSDs
[19:11] <kirkland> ttx: thanks
[19:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 653362 in dovecot (Ubuntu) "package mail-stack-delivery 1:1.2.12-1ubuntu7 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653362
[19:11] <inkvizitor68sl> hmmm... i hope there i will get answer...) what i have to do to be able to receive new CDs (better - in enough amount to share it).
[19:11] <ttx> so daviey will bring a couple spare laptops so that we do ISO testing in London
[19:12] <kirkland> noted, ttx is looking for an SSD donation
[19:12] <SpamapS> ttx: and bug 653152
[19:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 653152 in dovecot (Ubuntu) "package mail-stack-delivery 1:1.2.12-1ubuntu7 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 (dup-of: 653362)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653152
[19:12] <ttx> Daviey: looks like it's a bit reproductible after all.
[19:12] <mathiaz> Daviey: are you heading to the release sprint as well?
[19:12] <SpamapS> ttx: They may not have showed up on the radar because I marked it as Medium
[19:12] <ttx> SpamapS: volunteering to clear it out before we rool ISOs tomorrow ?
[19:12] <Daviey> ttx: oh joy
[19:12] <kirkland> ttx: alrighty -- anything else 10.10.10 worthy?
[19:12] <Daviey> mathiaz: some of it.
[19:13] <ttx> we need someone in US TZ to take care of it
[19:13] <ttx> ideally before we spin ISOs :)
[19:13] <SpamapS> ttx: I'm not entirely familiar with dovecot, but I'm happy to attack it if nobody else wants it. :)
[19:13] <Daviey> rocking!
[19:13] <ttx> mathiaz: ^or you :)
[19:13] <SpamapS> Will need somebody to upload.
[19:14] <kirkland> SpamapS: i can sponsor
[19:14] <SpamapS> Don't we have some people in .jp ?
[19:14] <kirkland> SpamapS: ASAP, though
[19:14] <ttx> SpamapS: mathiaz works on JP tz
[19:14] <SpamapS> kirkland: yeah I'll get on it right away
[19:14] <kirkland> alright, let's take any specific bug discussion to #ubuntu-server
[19:14] <Daviey> SpamapS: i had a Chinese the other day, if that helps?
[19:14] <kirkland> and keep focused here
[19:14] <kirkland> ttx: anything more from you on this topic?
[19:14] <ttx> kirkland: no. Questions ?
[19:15] <ttx> smoser: ideally we would prepublish cloud images early
[19:15] <kirkland> ttx: is this going to be the best Ubuntu Server Release ever?
[19:15] <ttx> smoser: so that you don't have to be on call on Sunday :)
[19:15] <smoser> ttx, well, yes, and ideally with the correct labels
[19:15] <smoser> :)
[19:15] <ttx> kirkland: I hope it will be the quietest.
[19:15] <kirkland> ttx: awesome
[19:16] <smoser> i'll get that all taken care of and send cjwatson instructions on what to do. including a phone number.
[19:16] <kirkland> moving along ....
[19:16] <kirkland> [TOPIC] Natty preparation (jib)
[19:16] <MootBot> New Topic:  Natty preparation (jib)
[19:16] <ttx> and that Cloud10/42 will help show that to the worls
[19:16] <ttx> d
[19:16] <jiboumans> Slowly gearing up for Natty. Like last week, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/NattyIdeaPool is live and we already have quite a few ideas. If you haven't contributed yours yet, please do so this week. On Friday, we'll be taking a snapshot of this and start making a rudimentary UDS planning.
[19:16] <cjwatson> smoser: I will not be working on Sunday, so ...
[19:16] <jiboumans> as always if you'll be at UDS and already have some topics you'll know you'll work on, feel free to file the blueprints already
[19:16] <cjwatson> smoser: contact skaet
[19:16] <smoser> ooh... then we need a RT for skaet to have access to nectarine
[19:17] <jiboumans> after release, the server team will spend some serious time on setting up our UDS plans & sessions
[19:17] <kirkland> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/NattyIdeaPool
[19:17] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/NattyIdeaPool
[19:17] <jiboumans> that's all there's to say right nwo i think -- any questions?
[19:17] <smoser> [ACTION]: smoser get RT open for skaet to have access to nectarine for publishing UEC images
[19:17] <smoser> [ACTION]: smoser to get skaet info on how to publish EC2 images
[19:18] <kirkland> jiboumans: might we devote some time in next week's meeting to such open ideas/brainstorming?
[19:18] <jiboumans> absolutely
[19:18] <zul> heh some people already started
[19:18] <jiboumans> right now it's a braindump area: add whatever comes up
[19:19] <kirkland> cool
[19:19] <ttx> In the weeks following release, please also remember to keep up the triaging effort, in case our first maverick users hit a major issue, we need to be ready to fix it
[19:19] <jiboumans> kirkland: i've also just sent out the call for ideas/blueprints so you can mark that done
[19:19] <kirkland> ttx: agreed
[19:19] <kirkland> jiboumans: noted
[19:20] <kirkland> jiboumans: anything else on this topic?
[19:20] <jiboumans> not from me
[19:20] <kirkland> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[19:20] <MootBot> New Topic:  Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[19:20] <hggdh> yeah
[19:21] <hggdh> we sent our proposal for regression-* tags to -devel. If no complains, we will be implementing it soon (after 10.10.10)
[19:21] <kirkland> hggdh: cool, what does that mean?
[19:22] <hggdh> we will be dropping regression-potential
[19:22] <hggdh> and using regression-release even for a development release
[19:22] <kirkland> ah
[19:22] <kirkland> understood
[19:22] <hggdh> -potential does not seem to gain us much (if at all), apart from more work
[19:23] <hggdh> and... I will start on euca testing for release as soon as the ISO is published
[19:23] <kirkland> hggdh: okay, anything else?
[19:23] <kirkland> any questions for QA?
[19:23] <Daviey> \o/
[19:24] <kirkland> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen)
[19:24] <MootBot> New Topic:  Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen)
[19:24] <kirkland> jjohansen is not feeling well today
[19:24] <kirkland> and it appears that jj-afk is away
[19:24] <smoser> so lets move on there.
[19:25] <kirkland> if there are any kernel related issues, please note them now ...
[19:25] <kirkland> and we'll take them up offline ....
[19:25] <kirkland> going once
[19:25] <kirkland> going twice
[19:25] <kirkland> gone.
[19:25] <kirkland> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Documentation Team (sommer)
[19:25] <MootBot> New Topic:  Weekly Updates & Questions for the Documentation Team (sommer)
[19:26] <kirkland> sommer doesn't appear to be around either ....
[19:26] <kirkland> going once
[19:26] <Daviey> :(
[19:27] <kirkland> going twice
[19:27] <kirkland> gone.
[19:27] <kirkland> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Ubuntu Community Team (kim0)
[19:27] <MootBot> New Topic:  Weekly Updates & Questions for the Ubuntu Community Team (kim0)
[19:27] <kirkland> kim0 doesn't appear to around ...
[19:27]  * kirkland misses his friends
[19:28]  * ttx hugs hggdh for being around :)
[19:28] <kirkland> anything to mention, Community related?
[19:28]  * hggdh blushes
[19:28] <hggdh> I have been chatting with kim0
[19:28] <kirkland> going once
[19:28] <smoser> hggdh, are you implying that he's around, just hiding from us.  thanks.
[19:28] <hggdh> about community involvement. We intend to get together and discuss this on UDS
[19:29] <kirkland> hggdh: yes, good
[19:29] <hggdh> smoser: actually it was last week :-)
[19:29] <kirkland> anyone planning a release party?
[19:29] <kirkland> (that's community related...)
[19:29] <zul> ill be having turkey that day
[19:29] <kirkland> or planning to attend a release party?
[19:30] <SpamapS> There's a release party in Hollywood that I'll be attending on Monday evening
[19:30] <RoAkSoAx> o/
[19:30] <SpamapS> nobody wants to go on Sunday ;)
[19:30] <kirkland> SpamapS: oh?  cool ... I'll be in SoCal next week, I think
[19:30] <SpamapS> http://www.borderstylo.com/posts/205-company-culture-at-border-stylo
[19:30] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://www.borderstylo.com/posts/205-company-culture-at-border-stylo
[19:30] <SpamapS> At their offices
[19:30] <kirkland> [ACTION] Everyone to celebrate the 10.10.10 release in their own unique ways
[19:30] <MootBot> ACTION received:  Everyone to celebrate the 10.10.10 release in their own unique ways
[19:30] <SpamapS> :)
[19:30] <ttx> I've been discussing server subcommunities at Open World Forum
[19:31] <kirkland> [TOPIC] Open Discussion
[19:31] <MootBot> New Topic:  Open Discussion
[19:31] <kirkland> anything else?
[19:31] <ttx> i.e. groups specializing in the maintenance of subsystems like "directory" or "windows integration"
[19:31] <smoser> i had an item on open discussion agenda.
[19:31] <RoAkSoAx> or cluster :)
[19:31] <ttx> RoAkSoAx: yes ! though this one is alive and kicking already
[19:32] <smoser> SRU 649591 (mountall spins eating cpu when 'nobootwait' option exists in fstab followed by a comma)
[19:32] <smoser> bug
[19:32] <RoAkSoAx> ttx: we still need UEC HA Clustering though
[19:32] <smoser> bug 649591
[19:32] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 649591 in mountall (Ubuntu Lucid) "mountall spins eating cpu when 'nobootwait' option exists in fstab followed by a comma" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/649591
[19:32] <SpamapS> I'd really like to see cluster stack get some attention. Building a redundant database server or load balancer on ubuntu should be easy.
[19:32] <ttx> I've seen widespread interest in that, so I hope we'll pull that off
[19:32] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: that's easy... the hard part will be the itnegration with UEC xD
[19:33] <ttx> (been talking to huats and RevolutionLinux guys)
[19:33] <mathiaz> ttx: with whom have you been discussin the topics at openworld?
[19:33] <ttx> mathiaz: I read your mind and answer your question before it's asked.
[19:33] <RoAkSoAx> ttx: mjeanson from revolutionlinux is interested in the cluster since they work in Ubuntu
[19:34] <smoser> ok.. my bug. I need bug 649591 back to lucid.  I've got a proposed pull, but need sponsoring.  can i get someone to please sponsor for me.
[19:34] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 649591 in mountall (Ubuntu Lucid) "mountall spins eating cpu when 'nobootwait' option exists in fstab followed by a comma" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/649591
[19:34] <ttx> smoser: yes you can.
[19:35] <ttx> smoser: maybe not me, but you should get someone
[19:35] <smoser> thats why i'm asking.
[19:35]  * ttx needs to pack tonight
[19:35] <smoser> mathiaz, zul, kirkland, one of you, please ?
[19:35] <zul> sponsoring mountall makes me nervous
[19:36] <kirkland> smoser: i don't mind sponsoring
[19:36] <RoAkSoAx> btw... after this UDS the ubuntu-server package set will be up and running right?
[19:36] <smoser> great.  its not my patch, its cjwatson. so you don't even really have to trust me.
[19:36] <kirkland> smoser: poke me in another channel shortly and let's walk through it
[19:36] <kirkland> smoser: hmm, so why didn't cjwatson upload it?
[19:37] <smoser> he uploaded to maverick.
[19:37] <ttx> I'd say, he is a bit busy with maverick release.
[19:37] <smoser> i am just pushing for lucid (and 'now' rather than later)
[19:37] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: you mean the ubuntu-server package set?
[19:37] <kirkland> smoser: ah, okay
[19:37] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: yes
[19:37] <kirkland> smoser: yeah, grab me in #ubuntu-server after the meeting
[19:38] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i'm not sure who owns that to-do....
[19:38] <kirkland> ttx: do you know?
[19:38] <ttx> kirkland: that would be mathiaz
[19:38] <ttx> it's part of the deffered items in mavercik-server-seed-review
[19:38] <ttx> deferred, even
[19:38] <kirkland> mathiaz: eta on ubuntu-server package set?
[19:38] <mathiaz> after UDS
[19:38] <kirkland> ttx: mathiaz: cool
[19:38] <RoAkSoAx> cool
[19:38] <kirkland> alright, i think that's about it ...
[19:39] <mathiaz> I'll probably schedule a session at UDS to figure out how to review the best
[19:39] <kirkland> [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time
[19:39] <MootBot> New Topic:  Announce next meeting date and time
[19:39] <kirkland> Tuesday 2010-10-12 at 1800 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting
[19:39] <kirkland> see you soon!
[19:39] <mathiaz> it's a 350+ package list
[19:39] <kirkland> mathiaz: yeah, review at UDS is a good idea
[19:39] <kirkland> adios, all
[19:40] <kirkland> #endmeeting

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