== Agenda == * Review ACTION points from previous meeting * Maverick development (jib) * release status (ttx) * The road to 10.10.10 release (ttx) * Natty preparation (jib) * Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) * Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen) * Weekly Updates & Questions for the Documentation Team (sommer) * Weekly Updates & Questions for the Ubuntu Community Team (kim0) * Open Discussion * SRU 649591 (mountall spins eating cpu when 'nobootwait' option exists in fstab followed by a comma) * Announce next meeting date and time == Minutes == ==== Meeting Actions ==== * ACTION: mathiaz to send out a call for ideas on ubuntu to the puppet community * ACTION: smoser to get skaet info on how to publish EC2 images * ACTION: Everyone to celebrate the 10.10.10 release in their own unique ways ==== Review ACTION points from previous meeting ==== * jiboumans to send an email to ubuntu-server@ and/or blog post for call for ideas * DONE (during the course of the meeting) * mathiaz to send out a call for ideas on ubuntu to the puppet community * ACTION (held over to next week) ==== Maverick development (jib) ==== * jib: winding down, ttx in London for release sprint ==== release status, the road to 10.10.10 release (ttx) ==== * ttx: nothing critical, a few FTBFS, nothing queued against the release, ISO testing to begin soon * ACTION: smoser to get skaet info on how to publish EC2 images ==== Natty preparation (jib) ==== * jib: [[ServerTeam/NattyIdeaPool]] is open, spend some time next week brainstorming ==== Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) ==== * hggdh: we will be dropping regression-potential ==== Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen) ==== * jjohansen: ill, not at meeting ==== Weekly Updates & Questions for the Documentation Team (sommer) ==== * sommer: not around ==== Weekly Updates & Questions for the Ubuntu Community Team (kim0) ==== * kim0: not around ==== Open Discussion ==== * SRU 649591 (mountall spins eating cpu when 'nobootwait' option exists in fstab followed by a comma) * kirkland sponsored smoser's proposal * ACTION: Everyone to celebrate the 10.10.10 release in their own unique ways ==== Announce next meeting date and time ==== * Tuesday 2010-10-12 at 1800 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting ## Other topics ## ==== Agree on next meeting date and time ==== Next meeting will be on Tuesday, April 14th at 18:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting. == Log == {{{ [19:00] #startmeeting [19:00] o/ [19:00] Meeting started at 13:00. The chair is kirkland. [19:00] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [19:00] [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting [19:00] New Topic: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [19:00] hmm, i don't see any outstanding actions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting [19:01] in which case, if there are none, I suppose we'll just move on [19:01] * kirkland checks log [19:01] ah, here are a couple [19:01] --> SpamapS to chase drizzle in maverick decide between "broken" and "removed" with slight possibility of "beta" [19:01] SpamapS: ? [19:02] sorry [19:02] drizzle is out of maverick [19:02] SpamapS: carry over to next week? [19:02] removed earlier this week [19:02] SpamapS: alrighty, done? [19:02] In discussing the beta period with their developers, its better this way. :) [19:02] kirkland: yes done [19:02] thanks [19:02] --> jiboumans to send an email to ubuntu-server@ and/or blog post for call for ideas [19:03] jiboumans: ? [19:03] kirkland: not done [19:03] jiboumans: carry over to next week? [19:03] o/ [19:03] kirkland: i'll do so today [19:03] jiboumans: k [19:03] [ACTION] jiboumans to send an email to ubuntu-server@ and/or blog post for call for ideas [19:03] ACTION received: jiboumans to send an email to ubuntu-server@ and/or blog post for call for ideas [19:03] --> mathiaz to send out a call for ideas on ubuntu to the puppet community [19:03] mathiaz: ? [19:03] kirkland: carry over [19:03] kirkland: I'll do it later today [19:04] (just to copy jiboumans ) [19:04] mathiaz: alrighty [19:04] [ACTION] (carryover) (carryover) mathiaz to send out a call for ideas on ubuntu to the puppet community [19:04] ACTION received: (carryover) (carryover) mathiaz to send out a call for ideas on ubuntu to the puppet community [19:04] * kirkland worries about a buffer overflow on that one :-) [19:05] [TOPIC] Maverick development - jiboumans [19:05] New Topic: Maverick development - jiboumans [19:05] not much to say right now; we're winding down [19:05] yay! [19:05] release status -- ttx [19:05] ttx is at the release spring in london while i'm detained in the US [19:05] all his :) [19:06] Mostly in good shape, nothing critical in the daily bug triage [19:06] a couple of FTBFS... one in likewise-open I fixed on Monday, the other is axis2c [19:06] We'll probably postpone that one since it's such a PITA to get right [19:06] * Daviey screams [19:07] Daviey: do you agree ? [19:07] ttx: yeah, i think i've looked at that one, if its the one i'm thinking of :-/ [19:07] kirkland: yes, THAT one. [19:07] ttx, yes - doko also inestigating [19:07] ttx: ugh [19:07] investigating* [19:07] The other is Bug 653154 [19:07] Launchpad bug 653154 in dovecot (Ubuntu Maverick) "package mail-stack-delivery (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653154 [19:07] but is about to be debunked as "not-reproduced" [19:07] Daviey: right ? [19:08] yah [19:08] will do shortly [19:08] so we don't have any fix queued for release now. [19:08] (as of now) [19:08] next topic :) [19:08] \o/ [19:08] ttx: thanks [19:08] [TOPIC] The road to 10.10.10 release (ttx) [19:08] New Topic: The road to 10.10.10 release (ttx) [19:08] Actualy I think bug 653154 might have a duplicate [19:08] Launchpad bug 653154 in dovecot (Ubuntu Maverick) "package mail-stack-delivery (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653154 [19:08] ttx: looking forward? [19:09] ISOs should hit tomorrow. [19:09] so it will be ISO testing season again [19:09] * hggdh is happy [19:09] and hopefully we'll be set by Friday [19:09] ttx, are there bugs not included yet that are targetted ? [19:10] (probably I should know the link to such things, but shame on me) [19:10] smoser: the only other bug in the list that we might consider is Bug 617496 [19:10] Launchpad bug 617496 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu Maverick) "'stop eucalyptus' should also stop all -publication services" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/617496 [19:10] the url is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus [19:10] please make sure to raise any bug you stumble upon in daily triage [19:10] ttx: okay, so every should prime their ISO cache today using TestDrive, and just incrementally sync the diff tomorrow, right? ;-) [19:11] that would critically affect maverick [19:11] ttx: bug 653362 Is I think the duplicate [19:11] kirkland: yes :) unfortunately my laptop is utterly slow, I need to switch to onf of those SSDs [19:11] ttx: thanks [19:11] Launchpad bug 653362 in dovecot (Ubuntu) "package mail-stack-delivery 1:1.2.12-1ubuntu7 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653362 [19:11] hmmm... i hope there i will get answer...) what i have to do to be able to receive new CDs (better - in enough amount to share it). [19:11] so daviey will bring a couple spare laptops so that we do ISO testing in London [19:12] noted, ttx is looking for an SSD donation [19:12] ttx: and bug 653152 [19:12] Launchpad bug 653152 in dovecot (Ubuntu) "package mail-stack-delivery 1:1.2.12-1ubuntu7 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 (dup-of: 653362)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653152 [19:12] Daviey: looks like it's a bit reproductible after all. [19:12] Daviey: are you heading to the release sprint as well? [19:12] ttx: They may not have showed up on the radar because I marked it as Medium [19:12] SpamapS: volunteering to clear it out before we rool ISOs tomorrow ? [19:12] ttx: oh joy [19:12] ttx: alrighty -- anything else 10.10.10 worthy? [19:12] mathiaz: some of it. [19:13] we need someone in US TZ to take care of it [19:13] ideally before we spin ISOs :) [19:13] ttx: I'm not entirely familiar with dovecot, but I'm happy to attack it if nobody else wants it. :) [19:13] rocking! [19:13] mathiaz: ^or you :) [19:13] Will need somebody to upload. [19:14] SpamapS: i can sponsor [19:14] Don't we have some people in .jp ? [19:14] SpamapS: ASAP, though [19:14] SpamapS: mathiaz works on JP tz [19:14] kirkland: yeah I'll get on it right away [19:14] alright, let's take any specific bug discussion to #ubuntu-server [19:14] SpamapS: i had a Chinese the other day, if that helps? [19:14] and keep focused here [19:14] ttx: anything more from you on this topic? [19:14] kirkland: no. Questions ? [19:15] smoser: ideally we would prepublish cloud images early [19:15] ttx: is this going to be the best Ubuntu Server Release ever? [19:15] smoser: so that you don't have to be on call on Sunday :) [19:15] ttx, well, yes, and ideally with the correct labels [19:15] :) [19:15] kirkland: I hope it will be the quietest. [19:15] ttx: awesome [19:16] i'll get that all taken care of and send cjwatson instructions on what to do. including a phone number. [19:16] moving along .... [19:16] [TOPIC] Natty preparation (jib) [19:16] New Topic: Natty preparation (jib) [19:16] and that Cloud10/42 will help show that to the worls [19:16] d [19:16] Slowly gearing up for Natty. Like last week, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/NattyIdeaPool is live and we already have quite a few ideas. If you haven't contributed yours yet, please do so this week. On Friday, we'll be taking a snapshot of this and start making a rudimentary UDS planning. [19:16] smoser: I will not be working on Sunday, so ... [19:16] as always if you'll be at UDS and already have some topics you'll know you'll work on, feel free to file the blueprints already [19:16] smoser: contact skaet [19:16] ooh... then we need a RT for skaet to have access to nectarine [19:17] after release, the server team will spend some serious time on setting up our UDS plans & sessions [19:17] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/NattyIdeaPool [19:17] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/NattyIdeaPool [19:17] that's all there's to say right nwo i think -- any questions? [19:17] [ACTION]: smoser get RT open for skaet to have access to nectarine for publishing UEC images [19:17] [ACTION]: smoser to get skaet info on how to publish EC2 images [19:18] jiboumans: might we devote some time in next week's meeting to such open ideas/brainstorming? [19:18] absolutely [19:18] heh some people already started [19:18] right now it's a braindump area: add whatever comes up [19:19] cool [19:19] In the weeks following release, please also remember to keep up the triaging effort, in case our first maverick users hit a major issue, we need to be ready to fix it [19:19] kirkland: i've also just sent out the call for ideas/blueprints so you can mark that done [19:19] ttx: agreed [19:19] jiboumans: noted [19:20] jiboumans: anything else on this topic? [19:20] not from me [19:20] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [19:20] New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [19:20] yeah [19:21] we sent our proposal for regression-* tags to -devel. If no complains, we will be implementing it soon (after 10.10.10) [19:21] hggdh: cool, what does that mean? [19:22] we will be dropping regression-potential [19:22] and using regression-release even for a development release [19:22] ah [19:22] understood [19:22] -potential does not seem to gain us much (if at all), apart from more work [19:23] and... I will start on euca testing for release as soon as the ISO is published [19:23] hggdh: okay, anything else? [19:23] any questions for QA? [19:23] \o/ [19:24] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen) [19:24] New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen) [19:24] jjohansen is not feeling well today [19:24] and it appears that jj-afk is away [19:24] so lets move on there. [19:25] if there are any kernel related issues, please note them now ... [19:25] and we'll take them up offline .... [19:25] going once [19:25] going twice [19:25] gone. [19:25] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Documentation Team (sommer) [19:25] New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Documentation Team (sommer) [19:26] sommer doesn't appear to be around either .... [19:26] going once [19:26] :( [19:27] going twice [19:27] gone. [19:27] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Ubuntu Community Team (kim0) [19:27] New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Ubuntu Community Team (kim0) [19:27] kim0 doesn't appear to around ... [19:27] * kirkland misses his friends [19:28] * ttx hugs hggdh for being around :) [19:28] anything to mention, Community related? [19:28] * hggdh blushes [19:28] I have been chatting with kim0 [19:28] going once [19:28] hggdh, are you implying that he's around, just hiding from us. thanks. [19:28] about community involvement. We intend to get together and discuss this on UDS [19:29] hggdh: yes, good [19:29] smoser: actually it was last week :-) [19:29] anyone planning a release party? [19:29] (that's community related...) [19:29] ill be having turkey that day [19:29] or planning to attend a release party? [19:30] There's a release party in Hollywood that I'll be attending on Monday evening [19:30] o/ [19:30] nobody wants to go on Sunday ;) [19:30] SpamapS: oh? cool ... I'll be in SoCal next week, I think [19:30] http://www.borderstylo.com/posts/205-company-culture-at-border-stylo [19:30] LINK received: http://www.borderstylo.com/posts/205-company-culture-at-border-stylo [19:30] At their offices [19:30] [ACTION] Everyone to celebrate the 10.10.10 release in their own unique ways [19:30] ACTION received: Everyone to celebrate the 10.10.10 release in their own unique ways [19:30] :) [19:30] I've been discussing server subcommunities at Open World Forum [19:31] [TOPIC] Open Discussion [19:31] New Topic: Open Discussion [19:31] anything else? [19:31] i.e. groups specializing in the maintenance of subsystems like "directory" or "windows integration" [19:31] i had an item on open discussion agenda. [19:31] or cluster :) [19:31] RoAkSoAx: yes ! though this one is alive and kicking already [19:32] SRU 649591 (mountall spins eating cpu when 'nobootwait' option exists in fstab followed by a comma) [19:32] bug [19:32] ttx: we still need UEC HA Clustering though [19:32] bug 649591 [19:32] Launchpad bug 649591 in mountall (Ubuntu Lucid) "mountall spins eating cpu when 'nobootwait' option exists in fstab followed by a comma" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/649591 [19:32] I'd really like to see cluster stack get some attention. Building a redundant database server or load balancer on ubuntu should be easy. [19:32] I've seen widespread interest in that, so I hope we'll pull that off [19:32] SpamapS: that's easy... the hard part will be the itnegration with UEC xD [19:33] (been talking to huats and RevolutionLinux guys) [19:33] ttx: with whom have you been discussin the topics at openworld? [19:33] mathiaz: I read your mind and answer your question before it's asked. [19:33] ttx: mjeanson from revolutionlinux is interested in the cluster since they work in Ubuntu [19:34] ok.. my bug. I need bug 649591 back to lucid. I've got a proposed pull, but need sponsoring. can i get someone to please sponsor for me. [19:34] Launchpad bug 649591 in mountall (Ubuntu Lucid) "mountall spins eating cpu when 'nobootwait' option exists in fstab followed by a comma" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/649591 [19:34] smoser: yes you can. [19:35] smoser: maybe not me, but you should get someone [19:35] thats why i'm asking. [19:35] * ttx needs to pack tonight [19:35] mathiaz, zul, kirkland, one of you, please ? [19:35] sponsoring mountall makes me nervous [19:36] smoser: i don't mind sponsoring [19:36] btw... after this UDS the ubuntu-server package set will be up and running right? [19:36] great. its not my patch, its cjwatson. so you don't even really have to trust me. [19:36] smoser: poke me in another channel shortly and let's walk through it [19:36] smoser: hmm, so why didn't cjwatson upload it? [19:37] he uploaded to maverick. [19:37] I'd say, he is a bit busy with maverick release. [19:37] i am just pushing for lucid (and 'now' rather than later) [19:37] RoAkSoAx: you mean the ubuntu-server package set? [19:37] smoser: ah, okay [19:37] kirkland: yes [19:37] smoser: yeah, grab me in #ubuntu-server after the meeting [19:38] RoAkSoAx: i'm not sure who owns that to-do.... [19:38] ttx: do you know? [19:38] kirkland: that would be mathiaz [19:38] it's part of the deffered items in mavercik-server-seed-review [19:38] deferred, even [19:38] mathiaz: eta on ubuntu-server package set? [19:38] after UDS [19:38] ttx: mathiaz: cool [19:38] cool [19:38] alright, i think that's about it ... [19:39] I'll probably schedule a session at UDS to figure out how to review the best [19:39] [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time [19:39] New Topic: Announce next meeting date and time [19:39] Tuesday 2010-10-12 at 1800 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting [19:39] see you soon! [19:39] it's a 350+ package list [19:39] mathiaz: yeah, review at UDS is a good idea [19:39] adios, all [19:40] #endmeeting }}}