MeetingLogs/Server/20120529

20120529

Revision 1 as of 2012-05-29 17:16:26

Meeting started by roaksoax at 16:01:44 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-05-29-16.01.log.html .

Meeting summary

Review ACTION points from previous meeting

ACTION: zul to sync up with arosales and jamespage. (roaksoax, 16:03:34) ACTION: email arosales/Daviey if interested in ubuntu-mir membership (roaksoax, 16:06:47)

Quantal Development
- LINK: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+specs?role=drafter (arosales, 16:15:03)
- LINK: http://ubuntuserver.wordpress.com/2012/05/23/server-team-20120522-meeting-minutes/ (Daviey, 16:16:04)
- ACTION: rbasak to drive migration to ubuntuserver.org (roaksoax, 16:18:49)
- ACTION: To finish BP documentation and mark them Review (roaksoax, 16:21:42)
- ACTION: To finish BP documentation and mark them Review ASAP! (roaksoax, 16:22:14)
- LINK: http://people.canonical.com/~davewalker/delta.html (roaksoax, 16:23:10)
Ubuntu Server Team Events
Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)

LINK: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardware-q-kernel-version-and-flavors (rbasak, 16:31:39)

Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
Open Discussion

ACTION: : Anyone interested in taking care of bug #972077 to ping smoser (roaksoax, 16:39:21)

Announce next meeting date and time

Meeting ended at 16:42:05 UTC.

Action items

zul to sync up with arosales and jamespage.
email arosales/Daviey if interested in ubuntu-mir membership
rbasak to drive migration to ubuntuserver.org
To finish BP documentation and mark them Review ASAP!
Anyone interested in taking care of bug #972077 to ping smoser

Action items, by person

zul to sync up with arosales and jamespage.
email arosales/Daviey if interested in ubuntu-mir membership
zul to sync up with arosales and jamespage.
rbasak to drive migration to ubuntuserver.org
Anyone interested in taking care of bug #972077 to ping smoser
To finish BP documentation and mark them Review ASAP!

People present (lines said)

roaksoax (91)
Daviey (34)
arosales (18)
jamespage (15)
smoser (13)
rbasak (10)
ubottu (10)
meetingology (10)
smb (9)
zul (8)
utlemming (5)
Ursinha (4)
hallyn (4)
m_3 (3)
SpamapS (2)
lynxman (2)

Full Log

16:01:44 <roaksoax> #startmeeting
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16:01:48 <Daviey> hey-ol-a
16:02:10 <roaksoax> so let's get started
16:02:15 <roaksoax> [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting
16:02:16 <utlemming> o/
16:02:32 <roaksoax> zul talk to arosales and jamespage offline about SRU tracker
16:02:41 <zul> in progress
16:02:41 <roaksoax> zul: any updates about the SRU tracker?
16:02:45 <arosales> roaksoax: I am syncing up with zul and jamespage
16:02:55 <arosales> deciding on which tool to use
16:03:05 <arosales> zul or possibly Ursinha's
16:03:10 <arosales> so in progress
16:03:16 <roaksoax> arosales: awesome!
16:03:24 <jamespage> o/
16:03:25 <Ursinha> we're talking about it tomorrow
16:03:34 <roaksoax> [ACTION] zul to sync up with arosales and jamespage. 16:03:34 * meetingology zul to sync up with arosales and jamespage.
16:03:45 <roaksoax> zul: zul to also pull Ursinha into SRU tracker talks --> I'm guessing that's stillk in progress too
16:03:54 <arosales> roaksoax: correct
16:04:07 <zul> yay
16:04:09 <roaksoax> alright, let'/s move on
16:04:11 <roaksoax> email arosales/Daviey if interested in ubuntu-mir membership
16:04:34 <roaksoax> who's displayed their interes in becoming part of the ubuntu-mir team?
16:04:54 <roaksoax> or should the question be, have all the interested people emailed arosales and/or Daviey ?
16:04:54 <arosales> I am also sync'ing up with Ursinha on blueprint management (ie tracking blueprint changes)
16:05:08 <hallyn> ruh roh
16:05:35 <arosales> I didn't receive any mails on interest for ubuntu-mir team
16:05:46 <Daviey> me neider
16:05:59 <roaksoax> alright, so people I believe you have a chance to offer yourselves and become part of the ubuntu-mir team
16:06:17 <Daviey> lets defer it again.
16:06:17 <roaksoax> moving on
16:06:24 <arosales> roaksoax: can we give it one additional week for follow up and then close on it next week?
16:06:34 <roaksoax> arosales: sure!
16:06:37 <arosales> thanks
16:06:47 <roaksoax> [ACTION] email arosales/Daviey if interested in ubuntu-mir membership 16:06:47 * meetingology email arosales/Daviey if interested in ubuntu-mir membership
16:06:58 <roaksoax> alright, moving on
16:07:01 <roaksoax> [TOPIC] Quantal Development
16:07:08 <roaksoax> Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
16:07:28 <roaksoax> bug #888123
16:07:30 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 888123 in openjdk-7 (Ubuntu Quantal) "erlang version 14.b.2-dfsg-3ubuntu2 failed to build with openjdk-7" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/888123
16:07:47 <roaksoax> jamespage: any updates?
16:08:00 <jamespage> nope
16:08:15 <jamespage> work on the underlying issue is on hold ATM
16:08:25 <roaksoax> ok
16:08:29 <roaksoax> bug 974584
16:08:29 <jamespage> not mega urgent at this point in time unless someone wants to merge erlang
16:08:31 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 974584 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Quantal) "Semaphores cannot be created in lxc container" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974584
16:08:44 <hallyn> working with debian maintainer
16:09:07 <roaksoax> awesome!
16:09:23 <roaksoax> bug #920197
16:09:25 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 920197 in python-webob (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] webob last stable version 1.1.1 response header bug" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/920197
16:09:37 <roaksoax> zul: any updates?
16:09:54 <zul> roaksoax: pending SRU team
16:10:16 <roaksoax> awesome!
16:10:23 <roaksoax> bug #1001846
16:10:25 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1001846 in cobbler (Ubuntu) "cobbler fails to install with error code 1" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1001846
16:10:48 <roaksoax> we were waiting for more input, and we got it. It should be taken care of this week
16:10:54 <Daviey> \o/
16:11:02 <roaksoax> bug #880339
16:11:03 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 880339 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu Precise) "AppArmor profile needs update" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/880339
16:11:33 <roaksoax> still incomplete
16:11:47 <roaksoax> comments point to a might be related bug
16:12:19 <roaksoax> bug #993291
16:12:21 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 993291 in nis (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] package nis 3.17-32ubuntu1.2 failed to install/upgrade: invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/nis not found." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/993291
16:13:01 <roaksoax> jamespage: any updates ?
16:13:09 <jamespage> yeah - I need to take a look at that still
16:13:13 <jamespage> so no
16:13:20 <roaksoax> alright!
16:13:23 <roaksoax> so let's move on to blueprints
16:13:33 <roaksoax> Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ubuntu-server.html
16:13:58 <arosales> how are folks doing with getting work items documented? 16:14:07 * rbasak hasn't started yet :-/
16:14:10 <rbasak> It's on my todo list 16:14:20 * m_3 too
16:14:31 <arosales> The release team would like to start setting topics and tread lines by tomorrow
16:14:32 <roaksoax> we also need to update the above link as they quantal BP's are not yet listed
16:14:39 <Daviey> So.. Started going through the ones with myself as approver... and they are taking good shape.
16:14:46 <Daviey> Still needs a little more detail on some.
16:14:47 <smoser> that url above should probably have been http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html
16:14:55 <hallyn> Daviey: note the user-ns and device-ns ones are not yet approved
16:14:57 <roaksoax> ah daa
16:14:59 <hallyn> (I marked them 'Review') 16:15:01 * roaksoax dumbd
16:15:02 <arosales> The list I am looking at for q for server
16:15:03 <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+specs?role=drafter
16:15:39 <arosales> at least for blueprints we need to get work items on, prioritize, and approve for work this cycle
16:15:43 <Daviey> The links i supplied in last weeks meeting are probably of use.
16:16:01 <roaksoax> ok, so all of us should finish writing our BP's, make sure the WI are docmented so that they can get approved and we can start working on them
16:16:04 <Daviey> http://ubuntuserver.wordpress.com/2012/05/23/server-team-20120522-meeting-minutes/
16:16:08 <Daviey> Read Quantal Development
16:16:54 <roaksoax> Specs currently under consideration are at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+specs?role=drafter. If a spec is missing, let Daviey know.
16:17:10 <roaksoax> Blueprints which $user is responsible for driving to Approved state can be found at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~$user/+specs?searchtext=servercloud-q&role=assignee. Please set those which require review to Review state.
16:17:22 <arosales> So is EOD wednesday too soon to have the blueprints ready for approval?
16:17:43 <roaksoax> Yes from my part
16:17:51 <roaksoax> s/part/side
16:17:52 <m_3> yes
16:17:55 <Daviey> Hmm
16:17:58 <rbasak> Daviey: can we please get the typo fixed on ubuntuserver.wordpress.com? It's embarrassing. I don't want to be associated with that site!
16:18:25 <Daviey> rbasak: Do you want to drive it's migration to ubuntuserver.org, canonical hosted?
16:18:30 <Daviey> [ACTION] ^ 16:18:30 * meetingology ^
16:18:49 <roaksoax> [ACTION] rbasak to drive migration to ubuntuserver.org 16:18:49 * meetingology rbasak to drive migration to ubuntuserver.org
16:18:53 <roaksoax> thank you rbasak
16:18:58 <Daviey> thanks rbasak
16:19:04 <Daviey> So.. Lets re-cap of the process...
16:19:15 <arosales> Thursday an better for folks completing blueprint work item documentation?
16:19:22 <Daviey> When you think your spec is ready for review, please mark them 'Review'
16:20:07 <Daviey> arosales & myself with significant help from jamespage and smoser will either give feedback, or Approve
16:20:44 <Daviey> So.. We can start that ASAP.. so please get your blueprints into a state where you can mark them Review ASAP, and we can start getting them rolled out
16:20:48 <Daviey> Sound good?
16:21:42 <roaksoax> [ACTION] To finish BP documentation and mark them Review 16:21:42 * meetingology To finish BP documentation and mark them Review
16:22:05 <Daviey> (ASAP
16:22:10 <roaksoax> so I guess the silence means all of us agree
16:22:14 <roaksoax> [ACTION] To finish BP documentation and mark them Review ASAP! 16:22:14 * meetingology To finish BP documentation and mark them Review ASAP!
16:22:15 <zul> suuuure
16:22:20 <jamespage> +1
16:22:25 <roaksoax> ok, let's move on
16:22:30 <arosales> it would be nice for trend line setting, and tracking if we could have the bulk of work item documentation this competed by this week
16:22:49 <roaksoax> indeed!
16:23:00 <roaksoax> alright, so we also have merges to take care of
16:23:10 <roaksoax> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~davewalker/delta.html
16:23:25 <roaksoax> LINK: http://people.canonical.com/~davewalker/delta.html
16:23:48 <roaksoax> please take care of your merges, so go wild and have fun
16:24:03 <roaksoax> anyone else has anything to discuss?
16:24:05 <Daviey> Please feel free to open sync/merge bugs to track assignment.
16:24:09 <Daviey> ^ optional
16:24:46 <roaksoax> ok, so there doesn't seem to be anything else. Let's move on then
16:24:55 <roaksoax> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Server Team Events
16:25:10 <roaksoax> any event where we will be particupating that's coming soon?
16:26:24 <roaksoax> I guess there isn't
16:26:38 <roaksoax> moving on
16:26:40 <roaksoax> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
16:26:42 <roaksoax> hggdh: o/
16:27:27 <roaksoax> uhmm it seems that hggdh is not around, so let;s come back t him later
16:27:40 <roaksoax> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
16:27:44 <roaksoax> smb: o/
16:27:49 <smb> yessir!
16:27:53 <smb> Beside of other pieces here and there, a quick test on the libvirt merge and most time spent on trying to reproduce bug 999755 without having a simple test case. This was unsuccessful but since someone posted exactly what was their reproducer I could confirm this to be no problem restricted to VMs. So now I can try out some variations locally.
16:27:54 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 999755 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel crash in rb_next doing ohai loops" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/999755
16:27:57 <smb> ..
16:28:45 <roaksoax> awesome
16:28:54 <roaksoax> smb: anything else you'd like us to be aware of?
16:29:15 <Daviey> smb: Anything on the xen front?
16:29:18 <smb> smoser, and utlemming are already away of -virtual going away
16:29:29 <Daviey> going away?
16:29:30 <smb> away -> aware
16:29:36 <Daviey> Where is this documented ?
16:29:47 <rbasak> It was mentioned at UDS IIRC
16:30:01 <smb> Should be somewhere in the uds flavours track
16:30:16 <smoser> we were aware.
16:30:20 <Daviey> That should probably be documented somewhere more expressive
16:30:20 <smoser> but that didn't stop it from breaking things./
16:30:37 <smoser> smb spoke to me about it.
16:30:57 <smb> Daviey, where would such a place be?
16:31:07 <Daviey> smoser: so it's your fault i didn't know? noted.
16:31:08 <utlemming> On our side, it is being tracked as Bug #1005551
16:31:10 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1005551 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "Quantal does not boot on EC2" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1005551
16:31:18 <Daviey> smb: probably -server ML
16:31:31 <smoser> well, probably -devel actually.
16:31:37 <smoser> its not just -server
16:31:39 <rbasak> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardware-q-kernel-version-and-flavors
16:31:58 <smb> OK, I can check and send out a specific "warning" about that
16:32:02 <utlemming> I'm working on cleaning up the fallout for the build process, but it will require packaing changes and build process changes.
16:32:23 <Daviey> smb: thanks!
16:32:41 <Daviey> utlemming: if it's significant, better track it on a blueprint
16:33:22 <utlemming> Daviey: ack
16:33:45 <roaksoax> alright, should that be all, let's move on
16:34:31 <roaksoax> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
16:34:33 <roaksoax> rbasak: o/
16:34:34 <rbasak> Nothing to report, although you may be interested in some ARM server news: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/29/dell_copper_arm_server/ . Any questions for me?
16:35:22 <roaksoax> i guess there's not
16:35:23 <zul> copper is shiney
16:36:12 <roaksoax> anotherone hgere : http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dell-unveils-programs-to-enable-the-arm-based-server-ecosystem-and-accelerate-development-and-testing-of-arm-based-applications-and-solutions-2012-05-29
16:36:40 <roaksoax> ok, so moving on
16:36:43 <roaksoax> [TOPIC] Open Discussion
16:36:58 <roaksoax> anyone has anything for us?
16:37:06 <smoser> i've got one
16:37:14 <roaksoax> I just want to publicly congratulate smoser
16:37:17 <smoser> rbasak, and i would like to solicit bids for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/972077
16:37:19 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 972077 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt repository disk format has race conditions" [Medium,Confirmed]
16:37:25 <Daviey> Yeah... So.
16:37:29 <smoser> by solicit bids, i mean "any one interested in doing this ?"
16:37:36 <zul> lol
16:37:43 <Daviey> Smoser has been declared the Infrastructure team Tech Lead. Three cheers for smoser
16:37:46 <Daviey> o/
16:37:50 <zul> yay!
16:37:52 <jamespage> \o/
16:37:53 <roaksoax> \o/
16:37:58 <smb> \o/
16:37:58 <Ursinha>
16:37:59 <jamespage> congrats smoer
16:37:59 <smoser> rbasak, is interested, but is time limited, and if someone else wants to take a whack at it, we have an idea of a proof of concept that we'd like to implement
16:38:02 <lynxman> \o/
16:38:02 <jamespage> or even smoser
16:38:03 <Daviey> Now.. Any hard questions related to Infra, please feel free to tax smoser.
16:38:04 <Ursinha> congrats smoser
16:38:05 <arosales> congrats smoser
16:38:06 <lynxman> smoser: you're da man
16:38:07 <utlemming> all praise to smoser!
16:38:07 <m_3> *\o/*
16:38:10 <roaksoax> congrats Mr. Moser
16:38:10 <smoser> (yes, thanks for the congrats, NOW BACK TO THE MEETING!)
16:38:11 <smoser>
16:38:15 <Ursinha> lol
16:38:16 <SpamapS> hody
16:38:19 <SpamapS> howdy even
16:38:21 <roaksoax> smoser: Open Discussion
16:38:25 <Daviey> SpamapS: just in time.
16:38:37 <zul> congrats captain oh my captain...my sparkle in my eye
16:38:40 <rbasak> congrats smoser!
16:38:46 <smoser> so, if anyone would want to take a look at implementing the apt client side of our proposed fix, please feel free to ping me.
16:39:18 <jamespage> o/
16:39:21 <roaksoax> [ACTION]: Anyone interested in taking care of bug #972077 to ping smoser 16:39:21 * meetingology : Anyone interested in taking care of bug #972077 to ping smoser
16:39:22 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 972077 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt repository disk format has race conditions" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/972077
16:39:39 <jamespage> Bug Triage Process - I sent an email to ubuntu-server last week
16:39:46 <roaksoax> alright, no other subject to bring to the table?
16:39:51 <jamespage> please could people have a read and provide feedback - thanks
16:40:07 <rbasak> I think I need to follow the process that jamespage has documented and then make a note of any bugs I get stuck on and why
16:40:19 <jamespage> rbasak, that is a fine way to debug it!
16:40:57 <rbasak> jamespage: deubg? You want me to file bugs on the triage process? And how should we triage those bugs?
16:41:06 <rbasak>
16:41:09 <jamespage> lol
16:41:21 <roaksoax> lol
16:41:36 <roaksoax> alright, if there's nothing more
16:41:39 <roaksoax> I guess we can end this
16:41:42 <roaksoax> [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time
16:41:48 <roaksoax> same time/place
16:41:59 <roaksoax> (June 5th)
16:42:02 <roaksoax> thank you all
16:42:05 <roaksoax> #endmeeting