== Agenda == * Review ACTION points from previous meeting * rbasak to drive migration to ubuntuserver.org * smoser follow up with rbasak re bug 972077 * Quantal Development * Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html * Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html * Ubuntu Server Team Events * Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) * Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) * Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) * Open Discussion * Announce next meeting date and time == Minutes == ## Use title4 (ie ==== ) for each section of the minutes ## Only topics discussed during the meetings should be put in the minutes. ## Status reporting is done via another channel. ## Start by summarizing all actions taken during the meeting in one section. ## It makes things simpler when reviewing actions in the following meeting. ==== Meeting Actions ==== * arosales to correct "pieces" on ubuntu server blog * completed by rbask * arosales to follow up with rbask on finding the correct home for the Ubuntu Server blog. * jamespage, utlemming, and smb to discuss image bloat, in reference to discussion around dropping -virtual kernel; re bug 1009553 * jamespage to follow up with hallyn on servercloud-q-server-iso-tests-review * utlemming to follow up with rbasak on getting armhf images using highbank ==== Other topics ==== * Add 12.04.1 development section for jamespage and smoser to give updates on. * arosales asked folks to integrate https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BlueprintSpec into the white board section of blueprints. * hggdh also reported that UTAH is getting ready to have some tests ported. ==== Agree on next meeting date and time ==== Next meeting will be on Tuesday, June 19th at 16:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting. == Log == {{{ [16:00] #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team [16:00] Meeting started Tue Jun 12 16:00:52 2012 UTC. 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[16:02] I had assumed that was a joke action. I have no knowledge of ubuntuserver.org or anything surrounding it whatsoever. [16:02] I think that was in reference to our server team blog, correct [16:02] hm.. funny. it probably was a joke action and then got carried over too. [16:03] nice. for shame on whoever chaired last week. [16:03] If so, are there any objections about where the blog current lives? [16:03] I would just like to see the typo fixed, which is how I ended up with the joke action [16:03] rbasak: I think you were dissing the site and got volunteered by the meeting chair :) [16:03] rbasak: where is that typo again? [16:03] In the headline [16:03] peices [16:04] ah ok, here https://ubuntuserver.wordpress.com/ [16:04] rbasak: did you want to follow up with jamespage and see who has access and get that corrected? [16:05] rbask, if not I can. [16:05] arosales, rbasak: I think I might have access [16:05] I don't think it's worth me being involved. I know nothing about it, and am not sure what I can add [16:05] (apart from another cook for the broth) [16:05] ok, I will follow up [16:05] o/ [16:06] #action arosales to correct "pieces" on ubuntu server blog [16:06] ACTION: arosales to correct "pieces" on ubuntu server blog [16:06] smoser: did you have a chance to follow up with rbasak on bug 972077 [16:07] Launchpad bug 972077 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt repository disk format has race conditions" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/972077 [16:07] rbasak, ping, re 972077 [16:07] (no, i didn't. but i will) [16:07] ok thanks smoser [16:07] #topic Precise Development === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Precise Development [16:07] bugs [16:07] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html [16:07] bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/974584 [16:07] Launchpad bug 974584 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Quantal) "Semaphores cannot be created in lxc container" [High,Triaged] [16:08] hallyn: were you taking a look at this one ^ [16:08] bug 920197 [16:08] Launchpad bug 920197 in python-webob (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] webob last stable version 1.1.1 response header bug" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/920197 [16:09] zul: and jamespage this one queued up correctly for SRU in 12.04.1? [16:09] yep [16:09] yep [16:09] cool thanks zul and jamespage [16:09] bug 1001846 [16:09] Launchpad bug 1001846 in cobbler (Ubuntu) "cobbler fails to install with error code 1" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1001846 [16:09] hm, yeah, i dropped the fix for bug 974584 both in debian and ubuntu bugs, i don't have upload rights... [16:09] Launchpad bug 974584 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Quantal) "Semaphores cannot be created in lxc container" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974584 [16:10] smoser: I think you were looking for more info on this one did airtonix give what was needed? [16:10] think the debian maintainer got sick of me [16:10] hallyn: thanks for the update on 974584 [16:10] * smoser re-looks [16:10] hallyn: let us know if you don't get a response soon [16:10] smoser: thanks [16:11] bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1009294 [16:11] hm... roaksoax is not around. i think there is enough info in that bug to move forward. [16:11] Launchpad bug 1009294 in Ubuntu Precise "Grub update breaks automated dist-upgrade scripts on AMI images" [High,Fix committed] [16:11] smoser: looks like you had the todo here to get the fix commited. Is that now in the ubuntu cloud images? [16:12] well catch roaksoax later on the cobbler bug [16:12] bug 880339 [16:12] Launchpad bug 880339 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu Precise) "AppArmor profile needs update" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/880339 [16:12] someone should verify images are fixed for that cloud image bug [16:12] and we need to refresh the 12.04 images. [16:13] smoser: I can do that... [16:13] arosales: that one is a dupe of one that I'm working on [16:13] jamespage: I think you were tracking bug 880339, is that now fixed? [16:13] smoser: and I plan on re-spinning precise ASAP [16:13] arosales: I think we can drop it from the list, having been incomplete without a response for so long [16:13] utlemming: could you help with verifying the fix smoser commited? [16:13] arosales: yup [16:13] utlemming: thanks [16:13] arosales: i've got a note in my tickler to bug ubuntu-devel on thu if no action from maintainer [16:14] arosales, yes - SpamapS please could you ensure the bug that you are working on has a task for precise and is targetted to 12.04.1 [16:14] #action drop 880339 from bug list — no response [16:14] ACTION: drop 880339 from bug list — no response [16:14] arosales: no action needed [16:14] thanks SpamapS [16:14] ah, ok :-) [16:14] arosales: its already closed as Invalid actually [16:14] there was a recent response.. that the user had screwed it up themselves [16:15] I'll make sure to remove the subscription of ubuntu server team too [16:15] (sorry for speaking out of turn.. but the ubuntuserver.org blog transition wasn't a joke action.. it needs to happen, and rbask wanted to see it improved.) [16:15] bug 993291 [16:15] Launchpad bug 993291 in nis (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] package nis 3.17-32ubuntu1.2 failed to install/upgrade: invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/nis not found." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/993291 [16:16] jamespage: looks like 993291 is tracking ok, correct? [16:16] arosales, yeah - I just picked that up [16:16] jamespage: ok, thanks [16:16] bug 1009553 [16:16] Launchpad bug 1009553 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "jeos install oversized" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1009553 [16:17] * jamespage is unsurprised [16:17] jamespage: is this one a result of just droping -virtual kernel? [16:17] any fix needed? [16:17] well its always close to the line - but yes that does seem to be the problem this release [16:17] Well, we should dive for extra opportunities to reduce it's size [16:18] but growth is expected. [16:18] I'm not sure TBH - I though the -virtual piece was going to be managed with additional module packages [16:18] which is the bulk of the oversize ATM [16:18] ~60MB I think [16:18] smb`, any opinion on ^^ [16:18] * smb` tries to catch up [16:19] jamespage: -virtual did indeed get dropped...and the kernel bloat in the AMI's is ~200M as a result [16:19] utlemming, sounds about right :-) [16:19] in parallel for bug 920197, zul is that progressing as expected? [16:19] Launchpad bug 920197 in python-webob (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] webob last stable version 1.1.1 response header bug" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/920197 [16:20] arosales: no it needs some work still which im doing this afternoon [16:20] utlemming, Why there would be a virtual meta which only consists of the smaller part [16:20] smb: is there a -virtual meta then? [16:21] zul: ok thanks. Make sure to ping smoser or jamespage both on the 12.04.1 team if any assistance is needed. [16:21] utlemming, linux-generic-meta -> linxu-image-generic + linux-image-extra-generic vs. linux-virtual-meta -> linux-image-generic [16:21] arosales: ack [16:21] smb`, utlemming: sounds like we are bloating out to much [16:21] arosales, please action smb, utlemming and I to discuss offline [16:21] well online but not in this meeting :-) [16:22] +1, we'll discuss this right after [16:22] jamespage, At least that is the theory, we need to reality check but, yes put up an action [16:22] #action jamespage and utlemming to discuss dropping -virtual kernel; re bug 1009553 [16:22] ACTION: jamespage and utlemming to discuss dropping -virtual kernel; re bug 1009553 [16:22] Launchpad bug 1009553 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "jeos install oversized" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1009553 [16:22] utlemming: jamespage and smb thanks [16:22] ta [16:22] bug 1008537 [16:22] Launchpad bug 1008537 in webkit (Ubuntu) "[FTBFS] Segmentation fault during tests" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1008537 [16:22] failed to build [16:23] may be similar to bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/968308 [16:23] Launchpad bug 968308 in openjdk-6 (Ubuntu) "Opening Eclipse workbench causes SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Confirmed] [16:23] anyone interested in taking a look ? [16:24] webkit and sphinx [16:24] any interested folks? [16:25] i'll investigate it. [16:25] Daviey: thanks [16:25] moving onto blueprints http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html [16:25] so we got some good work items documented, and dependencies liked to topics. [16:26] please take a look if the dependency linkage looks correct for your blueprint [16:26] also be sure to be implementing the blueprint spec into blueprints, jamespage do you have a link handy? [16:27] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BlueprintSpec [16:27] jamespage: thanks [16:27] I do - thanks skaet! [16:27] Any other items on blueprints? [16:28] * arosales forgot the two topics under quantal dev [16:28] hm, in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-server-iso-tests-review, i hope someone will explain to me what that action item assigned to me is [16:29] jamespage: can you assist hallyn with work items on the ISO tesing? [16:29] hallyn, arosales: yep [16:29] #action jamespage to follow up with hallyn on servercloud-q-server-iso-tests-review [16:29] ACTION: jamespage to follow up with hallyn on servercloud-q-server-iso-tests-review [16:29] jamespage: thanks [16:29] thx [16:29] #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:29] jim is at http://static.usenix.org/events/config10/index.html [16:30] this week [16:30] Velocity coming up in a couple of weeks. [16:30] any other events? [16:30] I pretending to be hazmat at EuroPycon at the start of July [16:30] cool, should be fun pretending to be hazmat :-) [16:30] jamespage: I can't wait to see your beard :) [16:31] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [16:31] hggdh: Any updates from QA? [16:31] SpamapS, I'm working on that :-) [16:32] hggdh, whats the current status on UTAH? [16:32] perhaps hggdh isn't around at the moment. hggdh please feel free to comment if you return. [16:32] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) [16:32] smb`: how is the kernel looking? [16:33] Mostly harmless... [16:33] any questions for smb` ? [16:33] thanks smb` [16:34] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) [16:34] Calxeda's Highbank machine is now enabled in Quantal! We're planning a more detailed announcement on this soon, including installation instructions. MAAS support for this machine is now the next step. [16:34] Any questions for me? [16:34] woot :-) [16:35] no other questions for rbasak [16:35] #topic Open Discussion === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Open Discussion [16:35] rbasak: so we need to get together [16:35] and get the armhf images using the Highbank then [16:36] Daviey: I'll follow up with rbasak on seeing how we can get our server team blog moved to the correct home. I have an action items to correct the spelling so I'll investigate the move with rbask. [16:36] * rbasak just wanted the typo fixed! [16:36] That'll be <5 minutes for someone with access, right? [16:37] rbasak: we need to move it regardless [16:37] rbasak: You volunteered AIUI. [16:37] Where should it go? [16:37] #action utlemming to follow up with rbasak on getting armhf images using highbank. [16:37] ACTION: utlemming to follow up with rbasak on getting armhf images using highbank. [16:37] * rbasak didn't volunteer. He just asked for the typo to be fixed. [16:37] rbasak: canonical hosted.. under that domain (owned by canonical) [16:37] prob a good idea to talk to jcastro about it [16:38] rbasak: just need to raise an RT and get IS to setup wordpress under that domain. [16:38] and migrate content... can you take that? [16:38] Who has access to the current wordpress? [16:38] To migrate content I'll want access [16:38] rbasak: it's wordpress.org.. so all of us. [16:38] err, .com [16:38] Credentials? [16:38] rbasak: anyone on the team can have an account [16:38] Who has admin access? [16:39] rbasak: If you don't have one, i can add you. [16:39] Please [16:39] rbasak: lets take this offline. [16:39] ok, thanks Daviey [16:39] Any other topics to discuss? [16:40] ok, thanks for everyone's time [16:40] #topic Announce next meeting date and time === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Announce next meeting date and time [16:40] o/ [16:40] I had one actually [16:40] Tuesday 2012-06-19 at 1600 UTC [16:40] jamespage: go [16:40] OK - so smoser and I and representing the server team for the 12.04.1 release [16:41] so don't mess it up. [16:41] we have a regular catchup with all of the other 12.04.1 folk every 2 weeks [16:41] I spent some time updating zul's reports - http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/server-sru/precise-sru.html [16:42] it you come across any bugs that should be SRU'ed please raise tasks for precise and target them to 12.04.1 - that way they will appear in the report [16:42] assigning someone or an upload being accepted into -proposed results in them moving to 'inflight' [16:43] I'd also like to have a regular slot in the meeting as well [16:43] not to review the entire report but to focus on any problematic bugs... [16:43] oh - http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/server-sru/ contains series based reports for all supported releases as well [16:43] perhaps after the quantal development section [16:43] that would make sense to me [16:44] #action arosales to add 12.04.1 Development section [16:44] ACTION: arosales to add 12.04.1 Development section [16:44] jamespage: and smoser thanks for rep'ing server in the 12.04.01 team [16:45] any other items to discuss [16:45] Next meeting is Tuesday 2012-06-19 at 1600 UTC. Thanks for attending, and bearing with me ;-) [16:45] #endmeeting }}}