Technical_2006-02-14
09:01 mdz good morning everyone 09:01 jpatrick good evening 09:01 sivang morning mdz 09:01 raphink hi mdz 09:01 mdz tech board meeting starts now, agenda at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda 09:01 raphink mdz: Tonio (Anthony Mercatante) might be a bit late 09:01 ogra evening 09:02 raphink yop ogra === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting I don't think we have any core developer candidates to process; the 09:02 mdz pending memberships in launchpad (apart from Kinnison, who isn't present) are invalid 09:03 mjg59 mdz: Is it possible to process kinnison in his absence? 09:04 mdz mjg59: I suppose so, if we both agree 09:04 ogra i sponsored an upload for him today if thats worth something 09:04 raphink that would be a great surprise for him :) 09:04 ogra and he wants to grab gnome-powermanager, its would be helpful if he could upload 09:04 mjg59 He's been an active Debian developer, and we're now entirely dependent on infrastructure he helped implement 09:05 mdz we're fairly well acquainted at this point 09:05 mjg59 I'm inclined to say that he'd be a valuable and competent member of the team 09:05 mdz I spent the better part of a week working with him on soyuz 09:06 mdz mjg59: what did you sponsor? 09:06 mjg59 mdz: I haven't sponsored any of his uploads as yet, but I've been working with him on g-p-m 09:06 ogra mdz, i did ... 09:06 mdz I am somewhat concerned by the fact that he seems to like lua 09:06 ogra mdz, g-p-m 09:06 sivang mdz: ?? :) 09:07 mdz the humour-impaired may disregard my last statement 09:07 sivang hehe 09:07 mjg59 mdz: Oh, christ, yes. 09:07 sivang I doublechecked :) 09:07 mjg59 But anyway, +1 from me. 09:07 elmo he doesn't just like it, he packages it 09:07 ogra mdz, he fixed a sabdfl bug :) #29881 ... so the lid -> lock screen stuff is done as well ;) 09:07 mjg59 (Unless anyone has any objections) 09:07 mdz mjg59: has he maintained non-lua packages in the past? === sivang cheers for Kinnison in his absence. 09:07 elmo I object on the basis that perpuating lua is a crime against humanity 09:08 sivang and what about Arannah? 09:08 sivang elmo: LOL 09:08 mdz I don't nkow who Arannah is 09:08 mdz know 09:08 sivang not who, 09:08 sivang what 09:08 sivang ah ops 09:09 sivang disregard that. 09:09 dholbach i think he was in the uploaders list of dbus 09:09 mjg59 Yes, he used to work on dbus (with Daniels) 09:09 mdz oh how confusing 09:10 mjg59 Having lost a Daniel, I feel we need to compensate by adding another 09:10 mdz anyway, there is precedent for both considering someone in absence if we have sufficient first-hand experience with them, and for 50% quorum 09:10 mdz so I think we can vote 09:10 ogra yay 09:10 mdz s/I think // 09:10 sivang yay 09:11 mjg59 +1 from me 09:11 mdz +1 with intentions to have a serious talk with him about this lua business 09:11 mjg59 And the beard 09:12 ogra haha 09:12 sivang mdz: given you just said that, note http://www.digital-scurf.org/software/aranha 09:12 mdz mjg59: will you communicate the decision to him? 09:12 mjg59 mdz: Yup 09:12 mdz thanks 09:12 mdz I've twiddled the launchpad bits 09:13 mdz so in theory he should have upload privileges effective immediately 09:13 ogra note that he's on ubuntu-dev as well ... 09:13 mjg59 Ok. Next set of people? 09:13 mdz yes, that is obsolete 09:13 mdz the motu applicant list is sort of a mess 09:13 ogra yup 09:14 dholbach mdz: Sorry, I'll mail the guys and report back ASAP. 09:14 mdz dholbach: thanks 09:14 dholbach (note the capital letters) 09:14 mdz dholbach: would you be sure to do that before each meeting? 09:14 mdz I can process any improper applications which should be declined for you 09:15 dholbach Yes. 09:15 mdz quickly, is there anyone here in regard to a MOTU application? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 09:15 Tonio_ hi everyone 09:15 LaserJock mdz: I'm Jordan Mantha 09:15 dholbach hi Tonio_ 09:15 mdz ok, that's two === jpatrick is Jonathan Patrick Davies 09:16 mdz 3 09:16 raphink hi Tonio_ 09:16 raphink :) === Tonio_ is Anthony Mercatante 09:16 mdz Ivailo Ivanov? 09:16 mdz freeflying? 09:16 mdz ok 09:16 jpatrick not here 09:17 mdz Tonio_ is first up, then === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 09:17 mdz Tonio_: so it looks like you're interested in KDE? 09:18 Tonio_ mdz: absolutly ;) 09:18 mdz who has been sponsoring your uploads? Riddell? 09:18 Tonio_ mostly Riddell, but since he is MOTU, raphink uploaded many too 09:18 raphink quite a bit recently yes 09:18 mdz is Riddell here? 09:18 jpatrick was a minute ago 09:19 Riddell I am === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 09:19 mdz Riddell: any comments? 09:19 raphink mdz: Tonio_ has been a very active Kubuntu developer for a long time 09:19 Riddell was politely waiting for Tonio_'s 3 line introduction.. 09:19 dholbach me too 09:19 Riddell but I fully support Tonio_'s membership of ubuntu-dev 09:19 raphink mdz: I have to confess he was the one introducing me to Ubuntu packages :) 09:19 mdz I am satisfied with his wiki page intro 09:19 Tonio_ I'm really sorry, but I didn't have the time to prepare a little text instroducing me... 09:19 mjg59 Tonio_: No problem 09:20 Riddell he's a good packager and fixed some bugs too like the bluez pin issue we found recently 09:20 mdz Riddell: can you provide any specific feedback on his packaging work, especially that done under your sponsorship? 09:20 mdz Riddell: you reviewed his uploads carefully? 09:20 raphink Tonio_ has been working on kubuntu default settings lately 09:20 Riddell mdz: yes, I've sponsored a number of his uploads, there's usually minimal problems with them 09:21 mdz Riddell: can you give us an example of a problem and how it was resolved? I reviewed a huge bunch of Tonio_ and he's been there for months, 09:21 dholbach improving them on my requests and adding even more packages. He follows up quickly and I'm happy with this packaging skills. 09:21 raphink dholbach: + :) 09:21 ogra additionally he seems to be a good guy to help newcomers in #ubuntu-motu 09:22 ogra i saw him often help out on questions ... http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1145 random example, mateedit, 09:22 Riddell needed to tidy upstream tar file and I'm usually quite strict in asking for patch names to be in changelogs 09:23 mdz Riddell: so you suggested those corrections and he made them? 09:23 raphink mdz: Tonio_ considers all corrections to packages on REVU 09:23 Riddell mdz: yes 09:23 raphink mdz: and is eager to defend his technical choices when a MOTU is wrong on a comment, too 09:25 mdz Tonio_: you mention the laptop team on your web page; have you worked with mjg59 on any projects there? 09:25 mjg59 Not as yet 09:25 mdz oh, I see, that's a future interest 09:25 mjg59 Though it would be good - KDE's lacking some love compared to Gnome 09:26 Tonio_ mdz: I must say not at the moment, cause I never found any problems with my laptop right now, but it is something I would like to find the to do 09:26 mdz Tonio_: can you tell us about your plans for laptop team participation? 09:26 ogra someone needs to rewrite g-p-m for kde :) 09:26 ogra (probably a bit late for dapper ) 09:26 sivang ogra: wait until it's better in dapper for gnome :) 09:26 Riddell ogra: (I'm in contact with the kpowersave developers about improvements I'd like to have matched funcationality) 09:26 ogra sivang, it already is 09:27 ogra Riddell, ++ 09:27 Tonio_ mdz: my plans are limited I must say 09:27 mdz Tonio_: what do you think could be done to improve laptop/power management integration in KDE? 09:27 ogra sivang, now that Kinnison cares actively for it :) 09:27 sivang ogra: rock :) I don't have many laptops, just one, so unsuring that the compatibility 09:27 Tonio_ with that specific model is okay, and certainly adding an entry on the wiki 09:28 Tonio_ but that is quite limited, indeed 09:28 mjg59 Tonio_: Would you be interested in working on more general support, even if you can't test it all? 09:28 raphink I think Tonio_ 's main interest in really Kubuntu right now 09:29 raphink s/in/is/ 09:29 mdz raphink: he can speak to his own interests, surely 09:29 Tonio_ mjg59: that could be interesting, although there are software dedicated to laptops that could/should be integrated 09:29 raphink sure mdz :) 09:29 ogra raphink, kubuntu needs powermanagement help and i guess Riddell would be happy if someone can help out 09:29 Tonio_ I discussed on powersave with riddell recently about that 09:29 mjg59 Tonio_: Ok, cool 09:30 mjg59 Tonio_: Unrelatedly, have any of the tools you've packaged been uploaded to Debian since you first packaged them? but has raphink was saying, my main priority is more kubuntu than 09:30 Tonio_ anything else, and if specific things can be done for kubuntu on the laptop part, I would take pleasure wokirng on it 09:31 Tonio_ mjd59, I didn't personally performed the debian submission, but I know certain packages have been included to debian by the utnubu team 09:32 mjg59 Tonio_: Once that happens, do you continue packaging new upstream releases or do you start syncing from Debian? 09:32 Tonio_ generally, when a package gets into debian, and that I am not the maintainer, I don't continue the packaging stuff 09:33 Tonio_ ubutu's main purpose is to be synched to debian, I think 09:33 Tonio_ but if the debian package is the one I did for ubuntu, I continue maintaining it, of course 09:33 Tonio_ packaging an application isn't a "one time" stuff 09:34 mjg59 Tonio_: Ok, cool 09:35 mdz Tonio_: Ubuntu's _main_ purpose is to be a high-quality free operating system, though coordinating with our upstreams is also important ;-) 09:35 mdz mjg59: I'm finished, you? 09:35 Tonio_ mdz: sure ;) 09:36 mjg59 mdz: I think so 09:36 mdz ok, votes 09:37 mdz +1, based on positive feedback from existing motu and core developers and a substantial history of packaging contributions 09:38 sivang phew, /me thought MOTU applications just got alot harder :) 09:38 mjg59 +1 for me 09:38 raphink sivang: indeed ;) 09:38 mdz Tonio_: congratulations and welcome 09:38 sivang raphink: this is for main right? 09:38 ogra sivang, we're still waiting for you :) 09:38 raphink welcome aboard Tonio_ :) 09:38 raphink sivang: not even ;) 09:38 ogra welcome Tonio_ ! 09:38 Tonio_ thanks very much ! 09:39 ogra next ? 09:39 dholbach congratulations Tonio_! 09:39 allee Tonio_: congrats 09:39 Tonio_ I hope not to deceive you 09:39 mdz jpatrick: you're next; would you like to introduce yourself? 09:39 Tonio_ allee: thanks :) 09:39 jpatrick Yes, thank you I wrote sometime up 09:39 mdz your wiki page is informative, but feel free to summarize here I started MOTU and packaging things when people started asking for packages at the Kubuntu Forums about five months ago, that's when I decided to give it a try. My work can be found at my wikipage ( 09:39 jpatrick https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatrickDavies ). While doing my first packages, I discovered REVU and started helping out, I've placed some notes on the KubuntuPackagingGuide at the wiki. I only did a few merges (kmymoney2 and kxdock lp people on #ubuntu-motu by reviewing their packages on IRC (with no 09:39 jpatrick power to upload or advocate on REVU (kblogger for example)). I plan to help out with MOTU KDE/Kubuntu (most of my packages begin with the letter K). 09:40 mdz jpatrick: it looks like your message was truncated 09:40 mdz I received: 09:40 mdz I only did a few merges (kmymoney2 and kxdoc 09:40 mdz <jpatrick> lp people on #ubuntu-motu 09:40 ogra yeah, the mid part ... 09:40 mdz (nothing between) 09:41 jpatrick sorry, one second I started MOTU and packaging things when people started asking for 09:41 jpatrick packages at the Kubuntu Forums about five months ago, that's when I decided to give it a try. My work can be found at my wikipage ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatrickDavies ). While doing my first packages, I discovered REVU and started helping 09:41 jpatrick out, I've placed some notes on the KubuntuPackagingGuide at the wiki. I only did a few merges (kmymoney2 and kxdocker, I think). I helped fix a YaKuake bug sometime ago. I help people on #ubuntu-motu by reviewing their packages on IRC (with 09:41 jpatrick no power to upload or advocate on REVU (kblogger for example)). I plan to help out with MOTU KDE/Kubuntu (most of my packages begin with the letter K). 09:42 dholbach jpatrick: are you an Ubuntu member already? 09:42 jpatrick dholbach: yes 09:42 mdz jpatrick: who has been sponsoring your work so far? 09:42 dholbach Ok. 09:42 jpatrick mdz: Riddell's done all my uploads 09:42 mjg59 Riddell: How do you feel about the quality of the packages? 09:43 Riddell mjg59: his packages often need some work, but he's very responsive to fixing any problems 09:44 mdz Riddell,jpatrick: I wasn't aware of KubuntuPackagingGuide until now; how did it originate? 09:44 raphink jpatrick is quite active in Ubuntu, and learns fast 09:45 jpatrick mdz: was created some time ago to help get people packaging 09:45 mdz jpatrick: by whom? 09:45 raphink mdz: I think JRE created it 09:45 allee JRe 09:45 jpatrick mdz: Riddell, JRe 09:45 Riddell it was JRe I think 09:45 raphink :) 09:46 ogra is JRe still active ? havent seen him for a while 09:46 raphink and JRe is not even here ;) 09:46 mjg59 Well, consistency is good :) 09:46 jpatrick ogra: he's mostly doing KDE work 09:46 raphink ogra: yes he's active 09:46 ogra ah 09:46 Riddell ogra: he's very active, e.g. just wrote Keep as a new backup tool for Kubuntu 09:46 raphink ogra: JRe is busy on keep and katapult lately ;) 09:46 mdz jpatrick: which of the packages on your page did you create based on upstream software, and which are packages you contributed changes to? 09:46 ogra oh, cool 09:48 jpatrick mdz: only packages I've done from scracth is ksplash-engine-moodin 09:48 jpatrick and kcontrol-kdetheme 09:48 raphink jpatrick: where did others come from? 09:49 jpatrick raphink: they were built up from Debian/Ubuntu files with new upstream releases 09:52 mdz is there anyone else present who has first-hand experience working with jpatrick who would like to speak? 09:52 raphink well if I might add something to that 09:52 jpatrick allee has been helping me with kmplayer 09:52 raphink I'd say I've seen the quality of his packages improve on REVU 09:52 raphink although sometimes more checks would be nicer 09:53 raphink but overall it ends up in pretty good stuff :) 09:53 mdz is there any way to get a history of all REVU activity for a particular user? 09:53 mdz that would be useful 09:53 raphink indeed 09:53 raphink mdz: grepping the motu-reviewers mailing list might help 09:54 ogra mdz, afaik thats planned for revu2 ... it was in the spec at ubz iirc 09:54 mdz I see 09:55 mdz jpatrick: what do you like most about working with the MOTU team? 09:55 atie I'd hope to see what mdz saying from launchpad 09:56 dholbach http://tauware.de/pipermail/motu-reviewers (unfortunately it doesn't have people in the message subjects) 09:56 mdz dholbach: any particular reason why that list isn't on lists.ubuntu.com? === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 09:56 dholbach mdz: siretart and sistpoty set it up as a quick solution (until revu2 was there) 09:56 jpatrick mdz: to be honest I'm not too sure 09:57 mdz jpatrick: well, why do you do it? ;-) 09:57 jpatrick mdz: I like the feeling of helping out and developing 09:58 mdz jpatrick: based on your experience, do you have any ideas about how the team could work more effectively? 09:59 jpatrick mdz: more revu-ing on KDE packages 09:59 mjg59 Heh 09:59 mjg59 jpatrick: Do you feel that KDE packages are held to the same standards as Gnome ones right now? 09:59 mdz jpatrick: meaning what? there aren't enough reviewers to keep up with packages needing review? 10:00 jpatrick mdz: only Riddell and raphink really do KDE revu 10:00 jpatrick mjg59: yes 10:00 mdz I think the best solution to that is to recruit more KDE contributors, who will gain experience and participate in review 10:01 mdz fortunately there seems to be strong interest in this area recently ;-) 10:01 jpatrick :) 10:01 atie mdz, yes users love kubuntu too. 10:02 allee jpatrick: if non motu could comment on revu, it would be better ;) 10:02 raphink allee: you can send your comments to MOTUs, they will sponsor them 10:02 ogra allee, that could quickly get messy ... 10:02 ogra the way raphink describes leaves at least some control I don't see any reason why non-motu shouldn't be able to comment, so 10:03 mdz long as it was clear from the comment whether the person is a registered developer or not 10:03 allee ogra: sending e-mails or irc is not better (btw. siretart said it on revu2 list) 10:04 Tonio_ raphink, although it is an exception, was commenting on REVU before beeing MOTU 10:04 ogra allee, afaik revu2 is planned to be included into launchpad ... there we have account management etc ... 10:04 mdz ok, we're getting a bit sidetracked into REVU discussion 10:04 ogra yup... 10:05 ogra and we already met the 1h mark 10:05 mdz jpatrick: can you tell us a bit about kubuntu-es.org and your goals there? 10:06 jpatrick mdz: first thing is get the site back and try to encourage the kubuntu spanish community to do some contributions :) 10:08 mjg59 jpatrick: Is there a strong Spanish KDE community? 10:08 jpatrick mjg59: yes 10:08 mdz jpatrick: how can we encourage more developer interest in that community? 10:08 jpatrick might be going to aKademy-es 10:09 jpatrick I could translate the MOTU guides for packagers, etc 10:10 mjg59 jpatrick: What distributions are currently popular in Spain? 10:10 mjg59 (Especially KDE based ones) 10:11 jpatrick I know some OpenSuse users and there's a crowd that's always in #kubuntu-es 10:11 mjg59 jpatrick: So, how do you think we can get hold of all the OpenSuse users? :) 10:11 jpatrick mjg59: the one i know used Kubuntu 10:11 mjg59 jpatrick: Heh 10:12 mdz jpatrick: does opensuse offer particular advantages to the Spanish community? 10:12 jpatrick not that I know of :) 10:13 mjg59 jpatrick: What sort of community contributions do you envisage? 10:14 jpatrick envisage? 10:14 mjg59 Imagine in the future 10:15 jpatrick Translations, more packages and maybe more support at the forums 10:15 mjg59 Ok 10:15 jpatrick and some coding for Kubuntu express maybe === Riddell notes that the University of La Laguna are making a kubuntu derivative distribution 10:15 Riddell and want to help with kubuntu express 10:16 mjg59 Riddell: Good news 10:16 mjg59 jpatrick: So do you feel happy with your packages being used by (potentially) millions of people? 10:16 jpatrick mjg59: I feel happy that they're happy :) 10:17 mdz we need to move on, any further questions? 10:17 mjg59 I think I'm ok. 10:17 jpatrick without having to compile the programs (which sometimes problems.) 10:18 mdz ok, votes 10:19 mdz +1 based on positive feedback on contributions to packages and developer resources 10:20 mjg59 +1 for me, though with faint concern over package quality in the past 10:20 mjg59 But it sounds like you're dealing with that, so no problem 10:20 mdz jpatrick: it wouldn't hurt to continue to participate in package reviews 10:20 jpatrick yes, I plan to help the kde packages :) 10:20 mdz extra eyes are always a good idea even for experienced developers 10:20 mdz jpatrick: anyway, congratulations 10:21 jpatrick thanks 10:21 Riddell I hope he'll revu lots more in future, Tonio_ too :) 10:21 Tonio_ jpatrick: congrats ;) 10:21 ogra congrats jpatrick 10:21 allee congrats jpatrick 10:21 Tonio_ Riddell: that's on my plans ;) 10:21 sivang congrets jpatrick 10:21 dholbach congratulations jpatrick 10:21 raphink congratulations jpatrick :) 10:21 dholbach !!!REVU DAY TOMORROW!!! 10:21 raphink welcome aboard :) 10:21 jpatrick thanks everyone :) 10:21 dholbach :-) 10:21 raphink dholbach: yeah :) 10:21 Tonio_ dholbach: I'll be there ;) 10:22 jpatrick count me in! 10:22 dholbach ROCK! :) 10:22 Kyral hmm REVU Day tomorrow..I should get a package uploaded soon then... 10:22 mdz LaserJock: you're up 10:22 LaserJock mdz: thanks I'm a PhD physical chemistry student that has been hanging out with the 10:22 LaserJock MOTU since about August. I am very interested in both good documentation for MOTUs and wannabes and also looking after science related packages in Universe. I am a member of the documentation team and am the lead writer of the 10:22 LaserJock Ubuntu Packaging Guide (very alpha at this point, but should be ready for Dapper). 10:23 LaserJock https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPackagingGuide 10:23 LaserJock http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html I also started the MOTU Science team to try focus some effort on science 10:23 LaserJock related packages in Universe. I broadly define science related as packages in the math, science, and tex sections. About 450 source packages in all. 10:23 LaserJock https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Science 10:23 LaserJock sorry if that is a little too much 10:24 LaserJock also, dholbach did an interview of me for the MOTU report at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-February/015279.html 10:24 mjg59 LaserJock: So what have you been packaging so far? mjg59: I package plotdrop (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1344) 10:25 LaserJock from scratch and it is now in Debian and I also took over a Debian ITP for gausssum and it is now in unstable 10:25 LaserJock I did ~ 10 merges for dapper and a few for Breezy 10:25 mjg59 LaserJock: Excellent 10:25 mjg59 Who's sponsored your uploads? 10:25 LaserJock I'm starting a run through the science related packages 10:26 LaserJock crismun, \sh, and bddebian (for breezy) are my main sponsors but they don't seem to be available 10:26 LaserJock azeem is my debian sponsor === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 10:26 LaserJock I haven't had any complaints so far about my packaging. All of my merges were accepted without changes 10:26 ogra_ibook grmbl 10:27 Riddell LaserJock: have you looked at the KubuntuPackagingGuide page mentioned earlier? can it be merged into the Ubuntu Packaging Guide? 10:27 LaserJock Riddell: yes, I have a section outlined for it 10:27 mjg59 LaserJock: Scientific programs are often licensed under bizarre non-free licenses. How's your legalese? 10:27 mdz LaserJock: it helps us a lot to hear from people who have reviewed your packages first-hand === ogra is eager to grab some of the packages from LaserJock for dapper+1 edubuntu ;) 10:27 mdz since we don't have time to do such a comprehensive review during the meeting 10:27 azeem the package I sponsored was well done, albeit not extremely difficult either. 10:27 LaserJock mdz: I understand 10:28 mdz LaserJock: do you think you could arrange for them to attend the next meeting, or perhaps send us some email with their thoughts? 10:28 azeem I am very impressed by LJ's pursuit for MOTUScience and working together with Debian 10:28 sistpoty LaserJock has been around for a long time, and often hangs around in -motu... his packaging skills (to what I've seen) are good 10:28 raphink :) mjg59: my leagalese isn't great but I've had to deal with some over in 10:28 LaserJock the doc team. Science packages are tought that way. debian-science is working on form emails for asking upstream for better licenses 10:28 jjesse and he is doing a great job on the packagin guide along with contrib to other doc team stuff 10:29 raphink LaserJock is often around, he's helpful and makes good packages :) === sivang notes he was pleases to see the packaging guide taking form, something he wisehd for since no-name-yet.com days. 10:29 mjg59 LaserJock: That sounds extremely worthwhile 10:29 sivang s/pleases/pleased/ 10:29 LaserJock I'm working on good relations with debian-science 10:30 LaserJock I somewhat naively sent an email about MOTU Science. 10:30 LaserJock I got a lot of good feedback with some not-so-welcom feedback as well 10:30 mdz sistpoty,raphink: have either of you sponsored his uploads? 10:30 LaserJock but I was able to show the DDs what I was up to and satisfied most 10:31 raphink mdz: no, I've reviewed some of his packages iirc, but never sponsored any 10:31 dholbach I can't remember, if I looked at any. 10:31 sistpoty mdz: no, I didn't sponsor any packages either, at least not that I could remember 10:32 LaserJock I really wish crimsun could have made it 10:32 mdz LaserJock: would you mind deferring to the next meeting? we've run a bit long, and it would be beneficial for your sponsors to attend 10:32 LaserJock mdz: I don't mind 10:33 mdz LaserJock: I appreciate it 10:33 mdz is freeflying here? 10:33 mdz he proposed a discussion item 10:33 mdz but I don't think he's here 10:33 atie mdz, he isn't here 10:34 atie mdz, but I can speak up for the item. 10:34 jpatrick mdz: he is sleeping 10:34 atie and ok with next meeting too 10:34 mdz atie: if we could defer, so that freeflying can participate and we have more time, that would be good 10:34 mdz atie: if it's urgent, feel free to send me mail and we can discuss that way as well 10:34 atie mdz, no problem 10:35 mdz atie: thanks, will you communicate that to freeflying as well? 10:35 atie mdz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BetterCJKSupportSpecification/FontConfig atie: It would probably be helpful if it could be written up in a little 10:35 mjg59 more detail - I didn't get a good idea what the issue was from the thread 10:35 atie mjg59, I agree. 10:35 atie but can we make a channel with someone in core dev? 10:36 atie to discuss detail before meeting 10:36 Riddell freeflying said huahua would speak for it, I've just pinged him 10:36 mdz atie: sure 10:36 mdz atie: feel free to ping me anytime before the next meeting 10:36 atie mdz, could you let me know whom? 10:36 atie mdz, sure 10:37 mdz atie: ok, thanks 10:37 mdz I think we need to adjourn 10:37 mdz please mail me about anything which can't wait until the next meeting 10:37 mdz thanks, everyone
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