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=== Topic for #ubuntu-meeting: Current meeting: Ubuntu Development Team | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 05 Sep 22:00 UTC: Community Council | 07 Sep 21:00 UTC: Kubuntu
=== Topic (#ubuntu-meeting): set by Ubugtu at Thu Aug 31 16:49:58 2006
(heno/#ubuntu-meeting) Done
(heno/#ubuntu-meeting) * Orca - It's great to see it on the live CD! I've done some testing and have helped several blind users with testing with advice and a HOWTO
(heno/#ubuntu-meeting) * Dicussions with Orca upstream on better ways of integrating it with the Ubuntu desktop (so that it doesn't get in people's way)
(heno/#ubuntu-meeting) * onBoard - Met Chris for va status meeting yesterday. We are hoping to get this through universe and into main during the next few days. Advice appreciated.
(heno/#ubuntu-meeting) * Finally got rolling with some desktop bug triage today
(heno/#ubuntu-meeting) * Other: Preparing the release of the OpenCD v4
(heno/#ubuntu-meeting) To do
(heno/#ubuntu-meeting) * Make final decision on Orca placement within the Gnome menu structure. If a few annoyances are not addressed (from Orca) we may leave out the menu item (this is not as bad as it sounds because blind users often prefer to launch things from the command prompt anyway)
(heno/#ubuntu-meeting) * Get onBoard into main and on the CD
(heno/#ubuntu-meeting) * theOpenCD release foo
(heno/#ubuntu-meeting) * More bug triage
(heno/#ubuntu-meeting) seb128: can you give me qa-team powers?
(dholbach/#ubuntu-meeting) heno: i can do
(seb128/#ubuntu-meeting) hum, I've to look at that
(Kamion/#ubuntu-meeting) I think pitti comes back on Monday, which will make main promotions easier
(heno/#ubuntu-meeting) dholbach: thanks
(seb128/#ubuntu-meeting) dholbach job usually
(seb128/#ubuntu-meeting) ok, dholbach on it, all fine then
(fabbione/#ubuntu-meeting) (FYI: the logs should be back again. thanks feenode for your amazing amount of netsplit)
(heno/#ubuntu-meeting) ok, just so I can set bug priorities
(fabbione/#ubuntu-meeting) have fun guys
05:20   Kamion  fabbione: thanks. (you're on holiday so I don't need an update from you, right?)
05:21   ogra    fabbione, go back to your little one
05:21   fabbione        Kamion: yes i will be in vac also next week
05:21   fabbione        ogra: yup...
05:21   Kamion  heno: oh, I was to send a mail to seb128 about sudo-admin-atspi, wasn't I?
05:21   ogra    :)
05:21   fabbione        thanks guys
05:21   fabbione        take care
05:21   ogra    you too
05:21   heno    Kamion: I sent one
05:21   Kamion  heno: I'll do that straight after the meeting if you haven't
05:21   Kamion  ok, good
05:21   doko    fabbione: please could you check a newer OOo build for sparc today/tomorrow?
05:21   Kamion  seb128: does that stuff look applyable?
05:22   seb128  Kamion: I've not looked at it yet, but will do after meeting or tomorrow
05:22   Kamion  heno: is there anything left of livecd-access other than my gfxboot stufff?
05:22   Kamion  -f
05:22   Kamion  seb128: thanks
05:22   seb128  np
05:22   heno    Kamion: in a sense the Orca and onBoard inclusion ties into that
05:23   heno    as does the At-spi/sudo stuff
05:23   Kamion  right, I mean anything not mentioned yet
05:23   heno    and the gksudo grabbing focus thing
05:23   heno    ^
05:23   Kamion  there is ubiquity-casper work there, right?
05:23   heno    Yes, just changing a few commands like, gnopernicus -> orca
05:24   heno    and gok -> onboard
05:24   Kamion  please https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/50319
05:24   Ubugtu  Malone bug 50319 in casper "Accessibility options are not preserved on installs" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  
05:24   Kamion  er, s/please/plus/
05:24   heno    It would also be nice to get the defaults copied to the HD install
05:24   heno    right
05:24   Kamion  yes, can you make sure there's a casper bug filed about that?
05:24   Kamion  and subscribe me to it
05:24   heno    yep, cool
05:25   Kamion  ok, thanks heno
05:25   Kamion  Riddell: ?
05:25   Riddell done:
05:25   Riddell     distro sprint
05:25   Riddell     processing e-mail backlog gathered during feature period
05:25   Riddell     knot 2 testing
05:25   Riddell     artwork packaging
05:25   Riddell blocked:
05:25   Riddell     ruby
05:25   Riddell     kubuntu-accessibility: needs changes in casper by mithrandir
05:25   Riddell todo:
05:25   Riddell     updates to kubuntu-power-management
05:25   Riddell     gather up list of priority bugs for edgy (and fix them)
05:25   Riddell     KDE 4 packages
05:26   Kamion  Riddell: "langpacks-desktopfiles-kde - some packages need to be rebuilt" - has that been done?
05:26   Mithrandir      Riddell: if you want to speed up the kubuntu-accessibility stuff, give me a casper branch to merge from.
05:27   Riddell Kamion: no, missed knot freeze, I can do it afterwards
05:27   Kamion  Riddell: ok
05:27   Riddell Mithrandir: ok, I can do that
05:27   Mithrandir      Riddell: thanks, sorry for not acting on it earlier.
05:27   Kamion  Riddell: mdz's notes say "needs integration from colin (gfxboot)" for kubuntu-accessibility, but I think we covered that at the sprint
05:28   Riddell Kamion: yes, that is fine
05:28   Kamion  all right
05:28   Kamion  kwwii: ?
05:28   kwwii   In addition to fixing parts of the work already included (kdm, power-manager icons,, etc.) I whipped up an amarok theme (thingking about using a totally different one though).
05:28   kwwii   Started to play with the different versions of the gradients. people like purple! (some like the yellow/orange more than others).
05:28   kwwii   In the end all of this is linked together, as the same colors are used in many different pieces of the artwork. Working on moving the entire theme to a blue-purple gradient and see peoples reactions.
05:29   kwwii   Andreas Lloyd will be at my home tomorrow, anthropologizing me :-)
05:29   Kamion  have fun ;-)
05:29   ogra    heh
05:29   kwwii   Will start making the guidance hardware database interface pics this week
05:29   Kamion  kwwii: "icons - maybe start during sprint, finish and upload before feature freeze" - is that still on track?
05:29   ogra    send greetings :)
05:29   kwwii   Kamion: we dropped that idea from edgy, moved more to edgy+1 (the new icons will come in kde4)
05:29   kwwii   The only really oustanding issue is the usplash...depending on what is possible we will make one soon
05:30   kwwii   guess I should update that spec
05:30   Riddell kwwiis icons are included in my updates to kubuntu-power-management too
05:30   Kamion  kwwii: oh, ok; yes, please mark the spec as deferred and send mail to me/mdz about it
05:30   fschoep kwwii: I contacted Matthew Garrett on usplash, but I don't have a definitive answer to what artwork to provide yet
05:30   kwwii   Kamion: cool, I talked to matt about this at the sprint...will do :-)
05:31   sladen  fschoep: the capabilities may not be set in stone yet
05:31   kwwii   fschoep: I think that we will end up with the old system again
05:31   Kamion  mjg59: ^--
05:31   kwwii   fschoep: perhaps removing the text or such, but I am not holding my breath for the new features
05:31   Seveas  fschoep, sladen: I have it working on 1024x768 with 256 colors for i386/amd64
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05:31   fschoep OK, but my screen does only 800x600 (example)
05:31   Seveas  I need to borrow someones mac to implement ppc bits
05:32   Keybuk  mjg59 seemed confident about usplash at the weekend
05:32   Keybuk  though he was mostly distracted by compiz :)
05:32   kwwii   well, if there is improvements, it only makes things easier for the artists
05:32   Seveas  Keybuk, he still is (talked to him yesterday) -- the code just needs to be written
05:32   Keybuk  SMOP
05:32   Kamion  minor tweaks are ok after feature freeze, just not major reworks :-)
05:33   Seveas  Keybuk, (if interested, I've published my changes in a branch on lp)
05:33   ogra    right, its *edgy* :)
05:33   Kamion  ok, let's move detailed usplash discussion to -devel; thanks kwwii
05:33   Kamion  doko: ?
05:33   Keybuk  Kamion: I think we have to accept some uplash rework anyway, simply because of how other specs effect it (b-m-i)
05:33   Keybuk  uh, b-m-l ... b-m-i is a local airline
05:33   doko    - this week
05:33   doko      - openoffice.org - OOo 2.0.4 rc1 builds, gstreamer support, i386 currently
05:33   doko        doesn't work on amd64, ia32-libs updates,
05:33   doko        start adding compat packages for dapper-proposed.
05:33   doko      - openoffice.org-hyphenation: license status for the various languages is
05:33   doko        clarified; will need to split the patterns in a free and a non-free part.
05:33   doko      - edgy-toolchain: final classpath-0.92 backport uploaded to edgy
05:33   doko      - upgraded amd64 server to edgy (but still OOo shows build failures, although
05:34   doko        it builds in the data center :-/).
05:34   doko    - this week / next week:
05:34   doko      - python2.5
05:34   doko      - OOo
05:34   doko      - knot-2 testing / upgrade amd64 workstation; need to get local OOo builds
05:34   doko        going.
05:34   Kamion  mdz says:
05:34   Kamion  matthias
05:34   Kamion          notes lost due to resume failure
05:34   Kamion  (well, damn)
05:34   ogra    Keybuk, and b-m-l is ?
05:34   Keybuk  ogra: boot-message-logging
05:34   ogra    ah
05:34   ogra    thanks
05:34   doko    Kamion: ?
05:34   Kamion  doko: (the notes I have from mdz's conversations with everyone at the sprint - apparently he lost yours)
05:35   ogra    doko, mdz lost the notes from your face to face talk in wiesbaden
05:35   doko    argh!
05:35   doko    he didn't tell me
05:35   Kamion  doko: so, I'm just trying to get a grip on the status of your specs hre
05:35   Kamion  here
05:36   Kamion  edgy-toolchain-roadmap> is there anything left? we shouldn't be doing much more toolchain work at this point
05:36   Kamion  edgyplusone-toolchain-roadmap I'm assuming is a special case and will start happening after FF
05:36   doko    we updated them at the sprint. should be up to date.
05:36   Kamion  ooo-langpacks is unknown? openoffice-spellchecking is not started?
05:36   doko    edgy-toolchain-roadmap: libc/libstdc++ ABI issues on powerpc and sparc; need to get jbailey
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05:37   Kamion  packaging-hints I suppose can drift
05:37   doko    edgyplusone-toolchain-roadmap: yes, we did want to open edgy+1 for the toolchain in the near future
05:37   Kamion  python-roadmap looks mostly done, although I've noticed the odd issue - are you going to do another pass to make sure all the stragglers are cleaned up?
05:37   Kamion  generally speaking I've been rejecting new packages that don't meet python-roadmap
05:37   Keybuk  me also
05:37   doko    ooo-langpacks: bounty for haggai
05:38   Kamion  I don't know if we'll actually open edgy+1, but the toolchain can always be staged somewhere
05:38   Kamion  when was that communicated to haggai
05:38   doko    python-roadmap: you'll get an update of syncs (without changelogs) for some more packages (and zope)
05:38   Kamion  ?
05:38   Keybuk  Kamion: "PPA" :p
05:38   Kamion  ok (grumble :-))
05:38   doko    Kamion: did talk with mdz at the sprint and with haggai this week
05:39   Kamion  python2.5 you covered; let me/mdz know if that needs to be deferred
05:39   doko    openoffice-spellchecking: yes, these are the hypenation patterns
05:39   Kamion  likewise for ooo-langpacks
05:39   doko    python2.5: will do. won't become the default, but will rebuild the library packages to build the 2.5 extensions as well
05:40   doko    ooo-langpacks won't be ready for ff, but for the OOo 2.0.4 release (which is mid September)
05:40   Kamion  ok, I think that's covered it, then
05:41   Kamion  hmm, we'll have to discuss that as a FF exception nearer the time, if you haven't done so with mdz already
05:41   Kamion  ok, thanks doko
05:41   Kamion  mvo_: ?
05:41   mvo_    Did:
05:41   mvo_    * dev-meeting Wiesbaden
05:41   mvo_    * gnome-app-install upload with caching support (startup speedups), bugfixes
05:41   mvo_    * cdrom based dist-upgrades spec: implementation in dist-upgrader started, basic support ready and uploaded
05:41   mvo_    * notification-daemon: backport sizing problem fix, fixed (in edgy): sizing and shape problem for downward arrows, added experimental "composition" branch that makes notifications transparent
05:41   mvo_    * misc (bash cmd-not-found, some apt rdepends, language-selector, looked over apts breaks support, hplip upgrade problem, realplayer upload)
05:41   mvo_    * bug triage
05:41   mvo_    Blocked:
05:41   mvo_    * review of the "AlwaysEnableUniverseMultiverse" spec
05:41   mvo_    Will do:
05:41   mvo_    * more work on the cdrom based dist-ugprades spec, finish update-notifier support and get in touch with kamion about the best way to integrate it onto the CD
05:41   mvo_    * go over the outstanding apt issues/bugs
05:41   mvo_    * add "mark manually installed" button to synaptic (control the auto-installed information)
05:41   Kamion  oh, that's another one for my to-do
05:41   Kamion    cdrom-based-dist-upgrades: Add upgrader to CD images.
05:42   mvo_    :)
05:42   Kamion  so most of your specs are "beta available"; is there a substantial amount more to be done on any of them?
05:42   mvo_    Kamion: I opened a bug and asked for advice about the place to put it in the build-scripts, if I get feedback there I should be able to add it myself
05:43   Kamion  mvo_: ok, noted, I'll get back to you on that
05:43   mvo_    the recommends-supports needs some more work to make it possible to turn it only on for selected packages/package-ranges (e.g. only meta-package or only main)
05:43   mvo_    the dependency-removal needs better support in aptitude and synaptic to be perfect
05:43   Kamion  recommends-supports> that sounds like it might be worse to have in an incomplete state than not at all; send me/mdz mail if it needs to be deferred
05:44   mvo_    but it is in good shape and I think I can get some more done within the week
05:44   Kamion  dependency-removal can stay in there in partial form, I imagine
05:44   mvo_    Kamion: it is complete, it is just not enabled by default yet. I talked with mdz about enabling it only for partial packages by default
05:45   Kamion  ah, so at least people can do --with-recommends explicitly, ok
05:45   mvo_    yes
05:45   Kamion  anything left to do on the popcon specs?
05:46   mvo_    beside advocating to get more people to enable it, no :)
05:46   ogra    btw, ltsp has a popcon mode included for thin clients ;)
05:46   mvo_    someone should blog about that great popcon thing
05:46   Kamion  I imagine those can be marked Implemented then
05:46   mvo_    ok
05:46   dholbach        mvo_: didn't you just create a new blog? :)
05:46   ogra    he did ????
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05:47   ogra    he needs a hackergochi !
05:47   mvo_    dholbach: *shhhsssss*
05:47   Kamion  command-not-found I've seen activity on today
05:47   Kamion  apt-ddtp - that had some Soyuz work done, is it mostly complete?
05:48   mvo_    Kamion: command-not-found is in the archive, if it gets installed it should work out of the box, its a matter of fine tuning the database now
05:48   mvo_    apt-ddtp is complete as well (modulo bugs and automatic imports/export of the translations, that is currently a manual process, I do the uploads)
05:49   Kamion  ok, we have six more people to go and 12 minutes to do that in, eek
05:49   Kamion  thanks mvo
05:49   mvo_    thanks Kamion
05:49   Kamion  ogra: ?
05:49   ogra    * this-week:
05:49   ogra    - thinclient-local-devices - finished, hunting last bugs, included in knot2
05:49   ogra    - student-control-panel-completion - pete savage has nearly done the complete spec implementation (three cheers for him !!!), need to review the code
05:49   ogra    - ltsp-login-and-session-handling - good progress, ldm side done, the 20 line server bit needs packaging
05:49   ogra    - ltsp-dhcpd-autogeneration - slow progress ready for knot 3
05:49   mvo_    ogra: you have 2 minutes :P
05:49   ogra    - fully-automatic-swap-server - reassigned to rodarvus
05:49   ogra    - knot 2 preparation
05:49   ogra    * next-week:
05:49   ogra    - implement ltsp-dhcpd-autogeneration
05:49   ogra    - finish ltsp-login-and-session-handling
05:49   ogra    - finish ltsp-dhcpd-autogeneration
05:49   ogra    - merge remaining debian changes into ltsp
05:49   ogra    - fix gnome-session fade and logout handling on thin clients (and see if the latter is appropriate to backport to dapper)
05:49   ogra    - look into gnome-screensaver GL hacks supression
05:49   ogra    * other specs:
05:49   ogra    - ltsp-daily-image-tarballs - mdz requested i should do a meeting with infinity before feature freeze to run it on the livefs build machines (to be scheduled)
05:49   ogra    - ltsp-convergence: (no progress, multi distro meeting sept. 14th-19th)
05:49   ogra    - ltsp-netboot-enhancement: (no further progress debian patches applied locally)
05:50   ogra    mvo_, done :P
05:50   rodarvus        dude, you have a lot to do next week :D
05:50   ogra    right
05:50   ogra    well, the gnome-screensaver stuff is a bugfix ...
05:50   Kamion  I've made a note about the meeting with infinity; perhaps you could mail him and cc me, if you haven't already
05:50   ogra    but likely intrusive
05:50   Kamion  implement *and* finish ltsp-dhcpd-autogeneration? :-)
05:50   Riddell and up to 45MB to remove from the edubuntu CDs
05:50   ogra    Kamion, i havent yet, wanted to meet up next week some day
05:51   Kamion  ltsp-login-and-session-handling is currently marked Not Started; I'll move it to good progress
05:51   ogra    Kamion, right, now that i have a CD thats easier ;)
05:51   ogra    thanks
05:51   ogra    i think i'm done tomorrow ... its quite trivial
05:52   Kamion  ok, spec status looks manageable then, thanks
05:52   ogra    Riddell, i dont care for the live cds yet ... its not what we ship, so its not highest prio for me
05:52   Kamion  rodarvus: ?
05:52   rodarvus        Done:
05:52   rodarvus        * Return from developers Sprint, recovering from X incident
05:52   rodarvus        * Ubuntu OLPC headhunting (two positions, ping me if you know someone)
05:52   rodarvus        * work on fully-automatic-swap-server
05:52   rodarvus        * Ubuntu OLPC administrativia
05:52   rodarvus        Todo:
05:52   rodarvus        * X security updates are possibly needed, need to check those with pitti
05:52   rodarvus        * finish fully-automatic-swap-server (hopefully today)
05:52   rodarvus        * more headhunting
05:52   rodarvus        * Lots of documentation and administrativia for Ubuntu OLPC
05:52   rodarvus        * Some X.Org uploads (driver updates, last aiglx modifications)
05:52   rodarvus        * X "current status" email, describing whats done, whats missing, and what would be nice to have for edgy+1 (so someone can pick up from here)
05:53   Kamion  sounds good. We'll give you more specs next time round ;-)
05:53   ogra    haha
05:53   rodarvus        as my weekly report tries to mention, I won't be able to give X much attention from now on (this is being repeted for the last few weeks :) ). Help on stuff that needs fixing before edgy is released is appreciated
05:54   ogra    Kamion, i tried that .. and then he got X :)
05:54   mvo_    rodarvus: we enable composite by default now, would it make sense to run a xcompmgr by default then too if we detect DRI?
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05:54   Kamion  we're in a much better position now with respect to X/Debian merging than we were in edgy
05:54   ogra    yep
05:54   rodarvus        I'll have my hands quite full with OLPC stuff from now on
05:54   ogra    kudos rodarvus
05:54   Mithrandir      Kamion: s/edgy/dapper/?
05:54   Kamion  er, yes, dapper
05:54   Mithrandir      rodarvus: can we discuss more about how to do X for the rest of the cycle in #u-x afterwards?
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05:55   rodarvus        Mithrandir, sure, would be great
05:55   rodarvus        thanks guys :)
05:55   Kamion  mvo_: feels like edgy+1, but is a discussion for elsewhere anyway
05:55   Kamion  thanks rodarvus
05:55   Kamion  Keybuk: ?
05:55   Keybuk  Done:
05:55   Keybuk  * OMGWTFBBQ
05:55   Keybuk  * ReplacementInit: in the archive, working on full compatibility for sysvinit so that we can replace that package with only elmo noticing
05:55   Keybuk  * BootMessageLogging: stalled pending completion of RI (which implements it)
05:55   Keybuk  To do:
05:55   rodarvus        mvo_, I don't think xcompmgr is necessary, is it?
05:55   Keybuk  * Figure out what I'm doing to the console that kills X
05:55   Keybuk  * Split sysvinit into sysvinit and sysvutils (pidof, killall5, last, etc.)
05:55   Keybuk  * Upload upstart that c/r sysvinit
05:56   Riddell lots of sladenporn from the BBQ, but no keybuk porn
05:56   Keybuk  Riddell: hmm?
05:56   Riddell later :)
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05:56   Kamion  Keybuk: c/r sysvinit and depends: sysvutils, I guess
05:56   ogra    *corner
05:56   rodarvus        mvo_, we'd need to update it to latest version and promote to main too (we can talk about this later if you want, though)
05:57   Keybuk  Kamion: the latter has to be an essential package anyway, but yes
05:57   mvo_    rodarvus: I would like to talk about that at some point (maybe tomorrow, I will leave in ~30min)
05:57   Kamion  ok, looking good. what's the probability that we have to defer replacement-init at this point?
05:57   rodarvus        sure, lets do it tomorrow
05:57   Keybuk  Kamion: at this point, I'm really happy with it, so I don't think we'll need to at all
05:58   Keybuk  the main blocker now is just a code review from martin
05:58   Kamion  excellent
05:58   Keybuk  I've completely implemented runlevel compatibility
05:58   Kamion  I'll do some code review early next week as well; remind me
05:59   Keybuk  so "telinit 4" works for the freaks, and they can grovel in utmp for the runlevel, etc.
05:59   ogra    pitto will have a hard week next week
05:59   ogra    *pitti
05:59   Kamion  thanks Keybuk, we'd better move on
05:59   Kamion  seb128: ?
05:59   seb128  This week:
05:59   seb128  * played with aiglx, compiz, etc
05:59   seb128  * packaged goocanvas, pygoocanvas, looked at uslab (contributor work on the new panel applet from Novel)
05:59   seb128  * bug triage, bug triage, bug triage
05:59   seb128  * some GNOME updates and desktop bugs fixed
05:59   seb128  .
05:59   seb128  Next week:
05:59   seb128  * keep bug triaging
05:59   seb128  * GNOME 2.16.0
=== Kamion finds himself at a loss for what to do with no specs whose status he can check up on ;)
06:01   seb128  hehe :)
06:01   Kamion  how are desktop bugs holding?
06:01   seb128  we are slightly catching up I think
06:02   seb128  but there is still lot of them, we could use some extra hand
06:02   dholbach        we're barely able to stem the tide
06:02   Kamion  I know the feeling
06:02   Kamion  ok, well if anyone reading has spare time ...
06:02   Kamion  thanks seb128
06:03   Kamion  sfllaw: here? (worth another try)
06:03   Kamion  Mithrandir: ?
06:03   Mithrandir      sane-installer-keyboard: needs d-i upload, will do post-knot, as well as testing
06:03   Mithrandir      live-cd-write-as-you-go:  no progress, will rescue
06:03   Mithrandir      livecd-sessions: defer
06:03   Mithrandir      misc: knot-2 release preparations - almost there now.
06:03   Mithrandir      next week: live-cd-write-as-you-go: get it implemented, get the kde accessibility stuff implemented
06:03   Kamion  Mithrandir: sane-installer-keyboard needs a ubiquity patch too
06:04   Mithrandir      Kamion: yeah, I know.
06:04   Mithrandir      I'm a bit too good at keeping statuses in my head rather than in launchpad.
06:04   Kamion  live-cd-write-as-you-go> depends on how much work it is; if it won't make it by FF, better defer it concentrate on finishing up everything else
06:04   sfllaw  Kamion: Yeah, I'm here.  I'm ill.
06:04   Kamion  s/concentrate/and concentrate/
06:04   sfllaw  Just woke up.  Had a bad night.
06:05   Kamion  oh, but live-cd-write-as-you-go was a fallback from livecd-sessions, hmm
06:05   Mithrandir      Kamion: yeah.  I have to have something to do after FF too, if not fix bugs, then what? ;-P
06:05   Kamion  Mithrandir: please mark livecd-sessions deferred in LP if you haven't already
06:05   Kamion  Mithrandir: by definition, not features :)
06:05   Mithrandir      Kamion: will do (haven't yet)
06:05   Kamion  (and send mail to me/mdz about the deferral)
06:06   Mithrandir      willdo
06:06   Kamion  thanks for your good work on knot-2
06:06   Mithrandir      I hope the freeze has been less painful for people this time around.
06:06   Kamion  sfllaw: ok, you're excused then, get well soon
06:07   rodarvus        Mithrandir, knot-2 was really great compared to knot-1. congratulations
06:07   Mithrandir      rodarvus: it's not out yet. :-)
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06:07   Kamion  Mithrandir: also 50319 and copying accessibility defaults; let me know if you need me to take over either/both of those
06:07   rodarvus        Mithrandir, will it take another 5 days? :)
06:07   Kamion  50319 is at least half mine anyway
06:07   ogra    rodarvus, its not even fully tested
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06:08   Mithrandir      rodarvus: don't jinx it
06:08   Kamion  BenC: yep, I think it's your turn now
06:08   BenC    libata: Defered for edgy+1. UUID parts implemented for edgy (some bootloaders still need attention, but not as pressing an issue).
06:08   BenC    kernel crash dumps: kexec-tools uploaded, need to add script for dropping to shell in initramfs and capturing the crash info.
06:08   BenC    The rest of the kernel: Coming along well. Unfortunately, I was not able to get the big shiny new kernel update done in time for Knot-2, but it will be there for people to update to.
06:08   BenC    Work last week: kernel bugs
06:08   BenC    Work next week: them kernel bugs still
06:08   BenC    .
06:08   BenC    Have done a lot of work getting dapper bugs tested on edgy. Will continue this so that we can see what bugs are still affecting us, and which are fixed simply because edgy kernel is newer. Bugs that are still present across dapper/edgy will be pushed upstream. If bugs are fixed by edgy, will attempt to backport fixes for dapper.
06:08   BenC    just want to make sure I wasn't forgotten like week before last :)
06:08   Mithrandir      Kamion: I'll grab 50319
06:08   Kamion  we should really get at least yaboot done before FF
06:09   BenC    yeah, I have work-in-progress in yabooyt
06:09   BenC    which will transfer easily to silo
06:09   Kamion  good - I ran out of time for it :(
06:10   Kamion  BenC: is the above all that's left from linux-kernel-crash-dumps?
06:10   ogra    lets not do a 4 month cycle again !
06:10   Kamion  amen
06:11   BenC    Kamion: now that I figured out why my kexec-tools upload wasn't getting accepted, all that's needed is that script for initramfs...should be rather simple
06:11   Kamion  BenC: ok, I'll mark it good progress then
06:12   Kamion  right, and I think we're done
06:12   Kamion  any other business before we close?
06:12   ogra    only 12mins over :)
06:13   Kamion  ok, let's move anything else to #ubuntu-devel
06:13   Kamion  thank you all for your time; adjourned
06:13   ogra    thanks Kamion
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06:13   fschoep OK, thanks Kamion, everyone.
06:13   doko    thanks
06:14   seb128  thank you