MeetingLogs/UbuntuDev-2006-12-14

UbuntuDev-2006-12-14

05:03 mdz 05:03 fabbione 05:03 fabbione 05:03 BenC 05:03 mdz 05:03 fabbione 05:03 mdz 05:03 fabbione 05:03 fabbione 05:03 fabbione 05:03 fabbione 05:03 fabbione 05:03 fabbione 05:03 fabbione 05:03 fabbione 05:03 fabbione 05:03 fabbione 05:03 fabbione 05:04 fabbione 05:04 fabbione 05:04 fabbione 05:04 fabbione 05:04 fabbione 05:04 fabbione 05:04 fabbione 05:04 mdz 05:04 fabbione 05:05 mdz 05:05 05:05 fabbione 05:06 mdz 05:06 05:06 mdz 05:07 05:05 mdz 05:05 05:05 doko 05:05 doko 05:05 doko 05:05 doko 05:05 doko 05:05 doko 05:05 doko 05:05 doko 05:06 mdz === 05:06 dholbach 05:07 mdz 05:07 doko 05:07 mdz 05:07 05:07 doko 05:07 05:07 05:07 mdz Ubugtu 05:08 05:08 mdz 05:08 05:08 Ubugtu 05:08 mdz 05:08 BenC 05:09 BenC 05:09 BenC 05:09 05:09 05:09 BenC 05:09 doko 05:09 05:09 05:09 05:09 05:09 05:09 05:10 mdz 05:11 mdz 05:11 cjwatson Ubugtu 05:11 cjwatson 05:12 cjwatson 05:12 cjwatson 05:12 cjwatson 05:12 cjwatson 05:13 BenC 05:13 cjwatson 05:13 mdz 05:13 cjwatson 05:13 Mithrandir 05:13 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05:02   fabbione        can we start? we need to pack this meeting in one hour fabbione: of course my friend.  why don't you start us off? mdz: sure.. BenC: you first delay me please fabbione: I meant you, personally mdz: eheh ok you're first on the list feisty-toolchain: no changes since last week. sparc64-installer: got network-console in main and tested. Pending fix for main- menu that's under review. os-prober now recognize Solaris/SPARC installations an d it can parse silo.conf to detect other Linux installations on the system. spar c-utils now ships eeprom util to change values in OBP. Missing to integrate the os-prober and sparc-utils changes into silo/silo-installer to create silo.conf s tanza's. integrity-check: created wget-udeb to provide an alternative to busybox wget tha t doesn't support ssl/https. spart64-niagara-ssl-accelerator: no changes since last week. ubuntu-feisty-ha-cluster: no changes since last week. Done * lvm2 testing with Ian. /me loves crack... Ian a bit less ;) * completed first mdadm SRU. Started investigating mdadm/evms issue reported in #67299. NOTE: for who doesn't read my emails: I will be in another TZ all of next week w ithout a phone and in vacation after that. Cya all next year! on men.. this copy/paste was horror fabbione: have fun with David mdz: thanks fabbione: thanks Keybuk  fabbione: enjoy your vacation!  and thanks for your work on udev-mdadm Keybuk: i did push it back to you.. i need watershed.. once that's done i will take it over again Keybuk: wasn't watershed the bit which I said needed to be added to the spec? Keybuk  mdz: it's in the spec, and the patch is in my inbox and just needs testing Keybuk: ok Keybuk  I wasn't expecting the udev-* specs to get implemented so quickly; had them in January in my head, but others took up the challenge doko: next Keybuk  fabbione: I saw, thanks - merges and sync requests for main (finished except syslinux, currently stuck) - python and java syncs and merges - python updates, module updates for new upstream versions supporting python2.5 (ongoing) - feisty-toolchain: update, enable the --hash-style=both link option - feisty+1-toolchain: update packaging to the current state of the 4.2 branch and trunk, update patches, forward patches upstream. - other: starting packaging of sun-java6 doko: what's stuck re: syslinux? pitti wonders if doko would have some clue about the broken gdb pitti: I thought you fixed it? pitti: seems to be a kernel issue mdz: the merged gfxboot not working pitti: I filed a bug and Ben said it was fixed with 2.6.20 pitti   dholbach: right, and it built locally, but the buildds still fail because of unexpected test suite failures pitti: you fixed it? pitti   doko: see above pitti   doko: I applied the upstream patch to support .gnu.hash ELF segments bug 74691 Malone bug 74691 in linux-source-2.6.19 "Unable to debug under 2.6.19: Failed to read a valid object file image from memory" [High,Fix committed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/74691 pitti   ah, that's the i386 version of that bug pitti: if you know more, please add it to the bug pitti   for me on amd64 it was 'cannot read ELF file' or so pitti   mdz: will do, I dealt with bug 73724 Malone bug 73724 in gdb "gdb problems with glibc 2.5" [Critical,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/73724 doko: do you expect sun-java6 to be able to supersede sun-java5 for feisty? the gdb thing is fixed in 2.6.20 at least it was for me pitti: Can you confirm the gdb problem with 2.6.20? pitti   BenC: seb128 still got it with 2.6.20? seb128  pkg-create-dbgsym doesn't pass with 2.6.20 hmm mdz: should be; it's time enough until the release seb128  2.6.17 works fine pitti   BenC: as I said, building gdb locally under 2.6.20 works (test suite doesn't make the build fail, but fails some tests; didn't check closely) pitti   anyway, let's not discuss it here pitti   we are tight pitti   in time seb128  pitti: well, I only tried the testsuite, not to gdb some dump doko: ok, cool. thanks cjwatson: next setup-console-under-usplash: No progress; needs somebody local to bug 73955 who's willing and able to dig into it. Malone bug 73955 in console-setup "Clobbered X screen state during installation" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/73955 intel-mac-support: Fixed up mouseemu a good deal; could people on powerpc try this out? I'll set it up soon so that it doesn't even start on non-Mac x86 machines, and then it should be ready to install by default. ubiquity-advanced-partitioner: Have mostly been staring at Gentoo UI code trying to figure out how to integrate it. I hope to have a first cut testable by Christmas. sparc64-installer: Have been helping Fabio out with various fixes related to network-console. misc: Some interest in installer team so far, though nobody yet diving into code; Henrik has been getting up to speed on the ubiquity bug list. Switched d-i to running the -generic kernel. Worked on various ite ms from my "later"-milestoned bugs, including getting the seeds switched away from using my directory on people.ubuntu.com. cjwatson: BTW, a lot of mactel patches went into 2.6.20 excellent, thanks who can help out with that console/usplash bug? I'll be getting the hardware from mjg59 at some point cjwatson: I might be able to debug 73955 given Karianne's laptop exhibits the problem, especially if you can give me a useful starting point. mdz: Mithrandir said he could so he hsa has Keybuk  mdz: I can, it happened to me Mithrandir: the consolechars command in the bug is a useful starting pooint point cjwatson: ok, let's talk about it later. everything I know (not a huge amount, but >0) is in the bug 'k if we can't fix it, we revert and lose s-c-u-u cjwatson: ok, thanks BenC: next :: Specs * driver-device-manager: NO PROGRESS * driver-backports: NO PROGRESS :: Work for past week * First release of 2.6.20-pre kernel. Built for all architectures. Initial testing by distro team has begun. * ata_piix regression fixed. * i82365 crash fixed. * Intel enabling (discussions, and so on) * LRM is ready for 2.6.20, uploading today. * All vmware modules are now in LRM (server, player and tools). :: Work for next week * Finish merges, and get 2.6.20 default in feisty. * Start back to work on specs. BenC: expect some crack from David and me next week fabbione: good crack or bad crack? BenC: *crack :) wait, you didn't so "ok, this is crack" BenC: how has the feedback for 2.6.20 been? is it also announced to -devel-announce or similar? mdz: Three bugs so far :/ two of them crashes Keybuk: I've set you as approver on driver-backports, chat with me about it if you're uncertain about the requirements whee I'll test it on my machines here today BenC: do you want the installer switched over? Keybuk  BenC: lrm would be nice everyone note that you can test feisty kernel on edgy too BenC, why isnt ext4 enabled ? i'd love to play with it cjwatson: no, not yet cjwatson: it would be interesting if we could switch the desktop CD ahead of linux-meta ogra: It's still marked experimental BenC: when is the plan to switch to it by default? BenC, oki Mithrandir: hopefully next week, if it doesn't eat everyone's data BenC: ok. (thinking herd scheduling here) it looks like it may be a rough ride to 2.6.20 mdz: that's probably feasible with Adam's assistance will have to check ubiquity BenC: what about the vmware workstation modules? are they the same as server? I think we can expect some problems with 2.6.20, we usually don't have such an unstable kernel in at such a late devel state I tried to unbreak my vmware workstation install, but the modules didn't build anymore mdz: I can't remember if they are server or player comptable but one of them works ok BenC: thanks Riddell: you're on holiday, but since you're here, if you have an update, it's your turn :-) Riddell hi Riddell done: kubuntu-feisty-language-selector: implemented, worked out well kubuntu-feisty-ubiquity: ported to qt4 Riddell todo: holiday, but kubuntu upgrade-tool is next on my TODO Riddell blocked: artists I will continue to nag sabdfl about artwork Riddell: is it blocking anything other than the artwork itself? Riddell apparantly he's on holiday for the next 3 weeks :( Riddell mdz: no, it's just unfair to leave the artists unsure what's happening Riddell: I have a call with him in 1.5 hours Riddell cjwatson: my qt4 partitioning problem may have been caused by old d-i debs installed, if it works for you I think it should be merged into trunk I haven't seen any artwork uploads, and artwork is a feature, so it needs to be generally useful by FF. Mithrandir chants that to himself. Riddell: yeah, that had occurred to me too Riddell: thanks, now go relax a little ;-) Riddell: it hung for me later on, but I'll check it out Mithrandir, that policy is in place since hoary Mithrandir: next misc: archive admin, fixed a bunch of missing depends on update-inetd, helped twb (community member) with casper merge, poked mono problem on sparc, ran into gdb internal errors, ran away Mithrandir, but was ignored since it exists :) grub2: played around with grub2 on one of my systems, seems to work.  Jeff Bailey has done some work to fix up update-grub, I need to look into that. network-roaming: no progress changelog-closes-bugs: no further progress feisty-release-schedule: put the herds on the schedule; slightly scary scheduling wrt gnome releases, so we might want to adjust if it doesn't work out. next week: fix up random bits before I go on vacation from Tuesday Mithrandir: are you still confident about getting network-roaming finished? that's quite important mdz: yes. much higher priority than grub2 sure. Mithrandir: is changelog-closes-bugs still under discussion in Debian? if there isn't consensus there, we should still proceed mdz: I don't think they're entirely happy, but I think they'll take the patch. oh, good Mithrandir: thanks ogra: next * last week: - merged debian ltsp patches - started working on edubuntu-network-auth-server/client - switched ltsp to openbsd-inetd (pitti, please approve before christmas holiday so ltsp is installable during our holiday) - started a lts.conf parser for ltsp-management-gui - new gnome-power-manager

* next week: - fix final ltsp merge bugs (new locale plugin handling etc) - more work on e-n-a-s pitti   ogra: oh, ok, will do - more work on ltsp-management-gui - more work on edgy-plusone-thinclient-sound

* approved specs: - ltsp-fat-clients - partially implemented, good user feedback - edubuntu-network-auth-server - started - edubuntu-network-auth-client - not started - edgy-plusone-thinclient-sound - started - ltsp-management-gui - started - student-control-panel-upgrade - not started - edubuntu-on-two-cds - not started - ltsp-persistent-home - started by sbalneav (waiting for code review) sorry for missing last week btw pitti, its not urgent, but needs to be in place before herd12 err 2 pitti   ogra: will try to do today before I get drawn into something else again mdz, did you see vagrants answer to my mail -> policy violation ? ogra: I don't think so he showed some valid pointers from the release policy for etch ogra: is there a target release date for upstream ltsp 5? apparently the debian RM's dchanged the wording from "conffile" to "config file" it will release latest with feisty .... depends on the other implementations as well pitti   ogra: conffile vs. config file is animportant difference... ogra: debian RMs don't have the authority to change policy, and that sounds like an error (redhat and gentoo want to have *something* at least) forbidding maintainer scripts from touching all configuration files would be, er, extreme Keybuk  wouldn't that make debconf illegal? anyway I don't think it's necessary to modify /etc/modules in this case, as I said but let's discuss it outside of the meeting ogra: thanks Packages must not modify their own or other packages conffiles programmatically. Packages must not modify other packages' configuration files sorry, -> #ubuntu-devel except by an agreed upon APIs (eg, a /usr/sbin/update-foo command). thast from an RM mail he quoted mvo: next Did: - Mail/Bugtriage - apt work (catchup with debian patches, prepared SRU for edgy) - unattended-upgrades mail notification added - work on better commercial software support in g-a-i - auto-distupgrader work (fixes in the conffile decetion, tested on ppc as well) - CommonCustomizations work - free space checking in dist-upgrader rewritten - misc merges/uploads (gnome-commander, python-distutils-extas, python-aptutils, dhcp, iptraf, apt-listchanges, python-support,central) - Implemented .dsc file build-dep satisfy in gdebi (for iwj auto-pkgtest) - some work on the server upgrade tool Specs: - automatic-upgrade-testing waits for deployment in the datacenter (so blocked currently) ogra: RMs don't decide policy Will do: - merges - CommonCustomizations mvo: how has edgy->feisty upgrade testing been so far? mdz: pretty good actually. I do it on a i386 here regularly and found that it works rather well mvo: any issues identified by sysadmin regarding the upgrade testing? or just needs time? they have been quick with most things I may say "unexpetecedly" well even with 4200 package s installed I got no feedback whats blocking the datacenter install, I guess not enough machines but that is just a guess I also ran it on dholbach ppc successfully (thanks dholbach for letting me on the machine :) mvo: for you anytime... ;-) mvo: ok, thanks heno: next Done: * access-gdm: Upstream are still keen to go the AT-SPI route. That now seems doable with GDM. Not sure about FaceBrowser. * multilingual-speech: More work on eSpeak voices, but I've not had time to do a larger community push yet. * bug-triage: started helping with ubiquity bugs and reading uiquity code. Wrote a simple script (which dholbach later cleaned up :) ) to assist in some basic triaging tasks. It only does some basic dupe searching ATM, but might grow into something useful. See: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dholbach/bughelper/bughelper.dev * launchpad: read up on some launchpad/distro discussions from the past and attended a weekly launchpad meeting. If there are issues you want raised with the LP team you can channel them through me. * Other: started monitoring a few forum sections, esp Feisty-development with the aim of lifting out useful info, such as important bugs not reported in Malone. . To do: * bug-triage: more ubiquity triage. Update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity with known Edgy bugs. Look at doing the same with other packages (which in turn serves as input for the bughelper script). Pointers to existing such pages welcome. * launchpad: Work with matthewrevell on ideas for distro-lp cross linking, including Fix-it Fridays. * multilingual-speech: Help community people get started on new eSpeak voices heno: did you have a chance to work on that letter to the forums we discussed? mdz: just bullet points so far ooh, thanks for bughelper, I must investigate that mdz: in the next few days I should have a draft heno: and please talk with sfllaw to work out how to file important bugs from the forums such that a) they aren't lost in the noise, and b) someone gets subscribed to the bug who can participate in debugging cjwatson: its very simple ... cjwatson: there's a discussion going on on ubuntu-bugsquad@ which might turn into wiki pages with ideas - the 'official branch' should be ~bugsquad/bughelper/bughelper.main mdz: right, colin and have started a bit with ubiquity bugs from there heno: (unless it's obvious what the bug is and how to fix it without their participation) Im trying to educate a bit as I bgo along heno: I like the idea of adding known high-visibility bugs to the debugging info pages right heno: perhaps we could make that more automatic by tagging the bugs which should appear there yeah, that was something I did with dapper doing the same for edgy would be great or just make a page for each major pkg, xorg, ff, oo, ect some exist already but they should be better structured and linked to heno: yes, another idea I've had is to group bugs based on user experience, e.g. problems booting, logging in, using the desktop, display issues, etc. heno: to make it easier for users to find existing bugs, when they don't know the package affected heno: perhaps we should have a longer discussion on ubuntu-devel need to move on here heno: thanks dholbach: next sounds good Done: * code-review: announced trial period, got feedback * automatic-art-builder: mailed Mark, mailed artist who was interested in it, no feedback * lots of bug triage * started hacking on Henrik's bughelper Todo: * 2.17.4 * more bug triage * hacking on Henrik's bughelper * bug day * hacking on the art builder and push the artwork people some more. :-) * (revu day?) pitti   heno: I'd glad to talk to you about that bughelper code wrt. apport and bug-reporting-tool integration pitti   heno: s/glad/be glad/ pitti: i thought about stealing your bug patterns idea :) dholbach: so no one using the art builder yet? pitti: cool, lets schedule afterwards mdz: effectively, no :-/ urgh dholbach: please send me a link to the announcement on ubuntu-art and I'll see if I can help stir up some interest dholbach: thanks seb128: next mdz:  alright seb128  Specs: seb128  * easy-codec-installation: no change (mdz, any reply from tim?) seb128  * tab-consistency: not started seb128  * desktop-slab: no change, package available to universe, waiting for upstream to know if they will ship the gnome-main-menu applet with GNOME 2.18 seb128  . seb128  Done: seb128  * catching up with bugs, backlog around 400 now seb128  * played with compiz and started updating to the new version seb128  * a bunch of desktop updates seb128  . seb128  To do: seb128  * upload tracker (0.5.3 with fixed copyright mentions will before next week) seb128  * update compiz, look at compiz tools package available on revu, contact the guy packaging the to know if he's interested to work join MOTU and work on those packages and compiz seb128  * keep bug triaging seb128  * start working on tab-consistency seb128  * GNOME 2.17.4 dholbach, i'll point cbx33 to you as well, his wife leads the edubuntu artteam ... seb128: yes, tim will complete the gstreamer work by 31 dec seb128  mdz: excellent, thanks ogra: thanks seb128: I asked him to mail patches to you and iwj when he has them seb128  ok pitti   seb128: please tell me that the newer compiz versions don't suck so much any more seb128  pitti: it should be better, that's why I'm working on the update :) seb128: if upstream ships gnome-main-menu, do we have transition work to do?  or leave existing users with the old menu on upgrade? seb128  and understand workspaces seb128  mdz: they will not ship it by default, just as an option (like the simple icon menu amt) seb128  atm seb128  (simple icon menu = the windows like menu, with the logo which opens one menu) ah ,ok seb128: thanks pitti: next pitti   Done: pitti   * merges for main: practically done, (enigmail: we have to permanently fork due to Debian's icedove madness, linux-wlan-ng: Debian has a SVN snapshot instead of stable release, have to evaluate) pitti   * zero-configuration-networking: implemented the last unimportant, but hairy bits, now fully complete; announced to -devel, suggested for next UWN. Enjoy! pitti   * mount-all-local-filesystems: implemented, announced to -devel. Enjoy! pitti   * gnome-mount: discussed de-gnomeification with Xubuntu guys; will eventually happen upstream and not urgent for Xubuntu, thus I set this to Blocked and will just let it sit; fully implemented for Ubuntu's purposes (except that mounting encrypted devices doesn't work, but that's udev-device-mapper) pitti   * uploaded g-s-t/s-t-backends/couple of applets SRU to -proposed after cjwatson's review (bug 59946); waiting for button push by an archive admin Ubugtu  Malone bug 59946 in gnome-system-tools "Admin tools require admin group membership" [High,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/59946 pitti   * fixed avahi regression from last security update pitti   * dapper/edgy langpacks made it to -updates pitti   * put a considerable dent into my bugs mbox, now < 1000 \o/ pitti   * ~/.xsession-errors handling: posted options to -devel, waiting for more feedback pitti   Todo: pitti   * do my share of universe merges pitti   * more bug triage pitti   * but: tomorrow is my last official workday for this year, then: holiday! I'll probably do some bits next week (hacking on apport, yummy), but I have some christmas preparations to do, so don't expect too much pitti: do we target tb-2.0 for feisty? pitti   doko: didn't spend any thoughts about it, but if it arrives on time, sure I'll do g-s-t after these meetings pitti   it has very few reverse dependencies pitti: please register a new spec for mounting local filesystems on the live CD and add it to the list for the sprint, I'd like to talk about this pitti   cjwatson: thank you (also for the review and your eagle eye) pitti: z-c-n seems to have blown up quite badly for me, I need to sit down and find out what's going on, but it has mostly broken NM for me. pitti   mdz: unless you want them to be automatically mounted this should just work pitti: consider splitting gnome-mount since the core part is implemented pitti   mdz: and I wouldn't like them to be automounted pitti: I want them to be automatically mounted :-) at least in some cases. and so do many users pitti   mdz: gnome-mount-xubuntu split? sounds fine let's talk through the issues at the sprint see if we can do something useful pitti   Mithrandir: ok, let's debug this at some time pitti: yeah; not here. :-) pitti   mdz: right; shouldn't be hard to do anyway pitti   mdz: automount> urgh heh pitti: ok, thanks pitti, according to the feedback to your announcement, thats what everybody expected :) pitti   ogra: I didn't interpret it that way pitti, i know :) zul: next kylem   he just said on #-kernel he's gone for lunch <zul> Worked on xen sfllaw: next sfllaw  Done: sfllaw  * Bug triage sfllaw  * Documentation sfllaw  * SRUs: openoffice.org sfllaw  * Interviewed another intern sfllaw  * Accepted three interns for me.  One for Jeff. sfllaw  To do: sfllaw  * SRUs: vino, udev, initramfs-tools sfllaw  * Bug triage sfllaw  * Hug day sfllaw: everything sorted with equipment for interns? sfllaw  * Accepting people into Ubuntu QA sfllaw  * Paperwork for interns sfllaw  Blocked: sfllaw  * SRUs: synaptic (cjwatson & mvo?) sfllaw  heno: Thanks for being the LP-Distro bridge. sfllaw hugs heno. sfllaw  I asked jbailey to put in an order. sfllaw  Continuing to ping him until he does. sfllaw: could we start getting the open bug stats weekly again?  stub can add them to cricket to make that a simple matter sfllaw: yeah, erm, blush cjwatson notes it in yet another place sfllaw: is there progress on making the text changes to launchpad for bug workflow? (e.g., statuses) sfllaw  UWN has them, actually. sfllaw  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue24 sfllaw  But I'll ask stubs to make better cricket things for us. not sure how the schedule matches the one for these meetings, but at any rate, it's useful sfllaw  mdz: I haven't heard anything from the LP people.  But am looking forward to their Fridays in January. sfllaw  mdz: I'll bug BjornT then, but am unsure how quickly he'll prioritize. sfllaw  It's not like bradb, where I could bribe him with beer. sfllaw: please mail steve/kiko instead, they determine the priorities ok, I need to go now; see you all later. and as i understood it this was a small change sfllaw: thanks sfllaw  OK.  Will put some pressure on them. Keybuk: next Keybuk  Done * finished off upstart specs necessary for feisty * borrowed binary-driver-education from mvo; will be integrating with BenC's device manager * started work on upstart Keybuk  To do * upstart development for replacement initscripts * get udev into shape as it's blocking a couple of other specs now * holiday (mostly as an excuse to only work 8 hours a day <g>) Keybuk  (bah, pasted badly; sorry) Keybuk: have you started looking at accelerated-x? Keybuk  mdz: yes Keybuk  I have it working here Keybuk: ok, thanks kylem: next kylem   Done: * Backported ipw3945 1.1.3 to feisty/edgy/dapper * Fix build of ipw3945 on dapper kernels * Fixed a large portion of ubuntu/ for INIT_WORK changes * Update sky2/tg3 for dapper-updates * Backport forcedeth for dapper-updates/edgy-updates * Update net_driver compat header for dapper * d80211 INIT_WORK cleanups for ubuntu-2.6.git (with mjg59) kylem   Todo: * Merge the -proposed trees with Ben's and upload * CVE-2006-4572 fix for dapper-security/breezy-security kylem: cool, thanks missed anyone? -3 minutes to deadline Me. sfllaw  Can I please ask everyone to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelTeamMeeting20061214 with their summaries?  Thanks. tkamppeter_: next DONE: - Answered to bug reports - Fixed regression in HPLIP (missing SANE driver after last upstream update, re-fixes bug 65908, doko, take care of not breaking this with the next upstream update of HPLIP) Malone bug 65908 in hplip "libsane-hpaio.so not shipped anymore" [Critical,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/65908 - Made a suggestion for handling the case that the GUI of HPLIP needs Python/Qt which is not on the desktop CD, but no answer so far (bug 67892) Malone bug 67892 in hplip "HPLIP failed to start PyQt/Qt missing" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67892 - Submitted new package SpliX (driver for cheapo laser printers from Samsung, more reliable than old "gdi" driver (pitti tried it out), introduces support for color lasers), fixes bug 44407, bug 63802, and Malone bug 44407 in foomatic-db "Samsung clp510 not working" [Medium,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/44407 Malone bug 63802 in cupsys "[Edgy]  unable to install printer Samsung CLP 510" [Medium,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63802 bug 59829 (package not in Debian) Malone bug 59829 in Ubuntu "No driver for Samsung ML-1610 printer" [Wishlist,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/59829 - Prepared better support for Brother's bw lasers in foomatic-db upstream. See announcement on www.linuxprinting.org front page and http://forums.openprinting.org/read.php?24,106 This gives access to HQ1200 (2400x600 dpi), Duplex, tray selection Economode, and password- protected printing to all Brother lasers (should even make the PostScript and PCL models working better).

tkamppeter_: note that the meeting schedule has changed somewhat to alternate between 1600 UTC and 2100 UTC.  you should be able to attend each meeting now, yes? Yes, it is easier for me now. Last week I could not attend because I was on travel to Portland for the OSDL Desktop Architects Meeting. tkamppeter_: ok, we'll include you in the normal roll then tkamppeter_: thanks When I arrived in the hotel I started xchat and the meeting was just over. that's a wrap, folks.  note that a canonical meeting follows immediately sfllaw  Can we have a short break. sfllaw  ? later everyone

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