This is the 4th 2011 meeting of the [[WisconsinTeam|Wisconsin Team]], starting at 21:00 CDT, 20111026 (0200 UTC, 20111027) and finishing at 22:19 CDT (0319 UTC, 20111027)
= Attendance =
[[AnthonyHook|h00k]], nickmoeck, emefarr, Cheesehead
= Agenda =
*Meet & Greet<
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*Interest Survey<
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*Becoming an approved `LoCo`<
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*T-Shirts<
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*New Member Process Wiki<
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= Minutes =
*[[#MeetGreet|Meet & Greet]]<
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No actions<
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*[[#InterestSurvey|Interest Survey]]<
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Action - h00k to send interest survey to the mailing list.<
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Action - h00k to coordinate a bug-reporting session.<
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Action - h00k to locate a trainer for packaging training session<
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*[[#GettingApproved|Becoming an approved LoCo]]<
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Application is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WisconsinTeam/ApprovalApplication<
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Please help edit the application before November 9<
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Action - Cheesehead to fill in "Experience" from the current wiki records<
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Action - h00k to announce November 9 IRC pre-application meeting<
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Action - h00k to submit application around November 16. <
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*[[#T-Shirts|T-Shirts]]<
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No actions<
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*[[#NewMemberWiki|New Member Process Wiki]]<
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Action - Cheesehead to finish proposed changes, building on sayonj's work from last month<
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= IRC LOG =
IRC Log [[http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/10/27/%23ubuntu-us-wi.txt|source]]
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[02:00] cool, lets start.
[02:00] Hi everybody!
[02:00] * h00k grabs agenda
[02:01] http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-wisconsin/250/detail/
[02:01] there we are
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TOPIC: <>Meet & Greet
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[02:02] hi, nickmoeck
[02:03] how have things been going? been a while since I've been around
[02:03] let us start with a meet and greet. I am Anthony. I'm from Rhinelander. I am the LoCo contact
[02:04] i try to organize things!
[02:04] who wants next?
[02:04] Hi, my name is Nick, and I'm an alcoholic
[02:04] Oh wait, wrong meeting
[02:04] I'm maurie. From Kimberly, WI
[02:05] hi Nick
[02:05] :)
[02:05] Nick, from Milwaukee
[02:05] I think that Nick and I will get along just fine.
[02:05] I'm Ian. I live in Milwaukee. I do the Milwaukee Ubuntu Hour and the Tuesday/Thursday Night IRC hangouts
[02:05] it is a good time!
[02:06] * Cheesehead scribbles information about nickmoeck, furtively plaaning to guilt him into attending the MKE Ubuntu Hour
[02:06] Heh
[02:06] Might be able to make it to the next one, whenever that is
[02:06] also, Cheesehead is the note taker
[02:07] and does Team Reports
[02:07] and pizza
[02:07] that, too
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TOPIC: <>Interest Survey
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[02:08] kinda bring us to item 2.
[02:08] I'm going to send out a survey of interest
[02:09] to...survey what people are inteesred in
[02:10] then we can plan things around those things, and it will be fun.
[02:10] sound cool?
[02:10] +1
[02:11] Good idea
[02:11] i like reporting bugs, testing, and physical meet ups
[02:11] and online met ups
[02:11] meet, rather
[02:12] anyone else?
[02:13] What are you interested in?
[02:14] This is a topic that affects future LoCo approval, too
[02:14] YES!
[02:14] Point 3.
[02:14] I thought we were already an approved LoCo?
[02:14] nope
[02:14] reporting bugs & testing as well
[02:14] not officially
[02:14] cool.
[02:15] when we talk about 'bugs', are we talking discovering, triaging, patching, testing...?
[02:15] I've kinda gotten interested in packaging lately, though I absolutely suck at it
[02:15] +1 for a packaging tutorial session
[02:16] cool.
[02:16] 3 out of 4 - discover, triage, test
[02:16] I believe ripps wanted in on that action, if I recall...
[02:16] (packaging action)
[02:16] discover, for me, and reporting them
[02:16] yes
[02:16] he's been mentionex on omgubuntu a few times
[02:17] Am I just one of the lucky ones who almot never runs into bugs?
[02:17] *almost
[02:17] i test beta stuff stupidly early for that
[02:17] I have this habit of using alphas as production so I see a few bugs
[02:18] me too
[02:18] I was seriously hammered by bug 858122 last week upon upgrade
[02:18] Launchpad bug 858122 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Precise) "incomplete migration to /run (shutdown script order has been demolished)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/858122
[02:18] despite that ubuntu alphas tend to be more stable than ms releases
[02:18] and you were able to recover? I hit that one early, too
[02:19] so...reporting bugs from testing alphas? Is that where our consensus is leading?
[02:19] * h00k shrugs
[02:19] and packaging
[02:19] h00k: recovery is possible. The solution in comment #22 is a 100% fix for me.
[02:20] cool.
[02:20] mine was fixed during a package upgrade during alphas
[02:21] So should we have somebody spearhead a few bug sessions and somebody else a few poackage sessions? Send around tenative plans on e-mail?
[02:21] the more things we do to help the community as a whole, the better chance we have of getting approved
[02:22] yep
[02:22] I can do a bug reporting session sometime
[02:22] and if you want to help, emefarr_
[02:22] I'll do whay I can to help
[02:22] what
[02:23] Training session? Or hang-out-and-break-it-together session?
[02:23] Well, I seem to have a gift for the "break it" part. ;)
[02:23] (convenient to get a bug confirmed quickly!)
[02:23] both, i have one that would work, a bug
[02:23] I'd help out with the packaging session, except I *really* have no clue what I'm doing when it comes to packaging. I'm surprised my packages even work
[02:23] i reported it yesterday.
[02:24] I have a .tar.gz that I'd love to try to package.
[02:24] nickmoek: perfect. maybe we could bring someone else in for a tutorial, too
[02:24] a dev or something, a guest
[02:25] Also I've only ever built packages for a set of python and PHP scripts, so I have no clue how to do packages for compiled code :P
[02:25] Ask for an interested trainer on the e-mail list?
[02:26] yep
[02:27] cool, that is on our to-do list
[02:28] anything else to add?
[02:28] Yes...
[02:28] gogogo
[02:28] So [action] h00k to lead a bug-reporting session ??
[02:28] yes
[02:29] affirmative
[02:29] and [action] h00k to request a trainer for packaging tutorial on the e-mail list??
[02:29] inded
[02:29] OK, thanks.
[02:29] indeed, rather.
[02:30] previous, [action] h00k to send survey and gather data
[02:30] yes
[02:30] * Cheesehead makes notes
[02:31] anything else?
[02:31] No
[02:32] emefarr_: if i could get yur email...is your contact info on Launchpad?
[02:32] yes
[02:32] cool. what alias?
[02:32] Ch
[02:33] emefarr@yahoo.com emefarr = initials em 4 maurie ;)
[02:33] Cheesehead: I ask you to mention going for your Membership! Also, I'd like to attend
[02:34] coool.
[02:34] h00k: I'm sending out an announcement tomorrow or so. Meeting on the first, 3PM
[02:34] ok.
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TOPIC: <>Becoming an approved `LoCo`
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[02:35] next..i think it would be cool to have polos
[02:35] Wait, waht about getting approved?
[02:35] Cheesehead: what do I need to do to help nominate you?
[02:35] for membership
[02:35] emefarr_: I'll tell you after the meeting!
[02:35] ohnoh
[02:35] ok
[02:36] I was looking over https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved
[02:36] I think we're close.
[02:36] i have started a wiki from the getting approved template, we can add on s we go, a resume of sorts
[02:37] let me find it
[02:37] I think we're good on "Resources" (IRC, e-amil list, etc)
[02:38] I think we're good on "Membership", especially since h00k just weeded out the old lists
[02:38] I think we need to refine "Roadmap" a little
[02:38] (Much of which will come from the survey results)
[02:39] yes
[02:39] And I think we're getting there on "Experience"
[02:39] We did the Global Jam events
[02:39] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WisconsinTeam/ApprovalApplication
[02:39] Rick did the seminars
[02:39] there we go.
[02:39] * Cheesehead shuts up and reads
[02:40] How do you want to do Roadmap? Edit the wiki? E-mail comments?
[02:40] thebLaunchpad membership list is accurate, yes. i think e had another ezpire the other day thoug
[02:40] h
[02:41] lag...
[02:41] i think editing the wiki is okay, we can always check revision history, etc
[02:42] Since we have notes, we can fill in Experience. I can have a lot of that ready for you in the next couple days
[02:42] awesome.
[02:42] Deadline for revisions and suggestions?
[02:42] two weeks
[02:42] Tentative goal for submitting the application?
[02:42] giving survey time tobeaccounted for
[02:43] hm...
[02:43] three weeks?
[02:43] You want someone from locoteams to give it a health check first?
[02:44] one week to polish, we should meet in 2 weeks
[02:44] yes, absolutely
[02:45] OK
[02:45] * Cheesehead shuts up so others can speak!
[02:45] sound ok?
[02:45] anyoneelse?
[02:45] sounds good
[02:45] this spacebar is hard to find sometimes.
[02:46] apologies.
[02:47] nickmoek?
[02:47] nickmoeck*
[02:47] Oh, hi. Sorry, was distracted
[02:48] no prob :)
[02:49] I think we'll have no problem getting accepted
[02:49] i hope :)
[02:49] then we're cool.
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TOPIC: <>T-Shirts
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[02:50] and....cool people need shirts!
[02:51] Indeed!
[02:51] if we had a cool idea for a logo...
[02:51] we could get sweet polos
[02:52] hint hint. if anyone is ok at The Gimp, we could have another call for art on the Mailing lisyt
[02:53] I might have some time to try drawing something up. Just something basic. Ubuntu logo inside the outline of the state or something similar
[02:54] or like the ubuntu logo textwith Wisconskn after, then the circle offriends
[02:54]
[02:54] no ubuntu logo inside a packer-badger-brewer logo? ;)
[02:54] something cool, yeah
[02:54] emefarr_: I was actually thinking of how something like that would look lol
[02:55] you'll have to do it, though nick - i can't draw even WITH computer help!
[02:55] lol
[02:55] Honestly, I think it would end up looking pretty bad
[02:56] way too many colors
[02:56] Yeah
[02:56] cool. i can also send that out. QUICK, someone invent a deadline! A month? Few weeks?
[02:56] plus I don't think we want to imply any kind of sponsorship/approval of the teams
[02:56] of/by
[02:57] Well, a logo is pretty simple. I'd say 2 weeks or so
[02:57] ubuntu logo superimposed on a Cheesehead? ;)
[02:57] cool.
[02:58] yes!
[02:58] or.... ubuntu logo made out of cheese
[02:58] even better
[02:59] oho.
[03:00] anything else for this subject?
[03:00] we'll need to figure out where to get them and pricing, too
[03:03] although there are cheap options online, I'd say we should support local Wisconsin businesses and try to find someplace in Madison or Milwaukee that can do it for a reasonable price
[03:03] I concur
[03:03] agreed
[03:05] anyone care to volunteer?
[03:05] to seek one ouy?
[03:05] t
[03:06] Cheesehead: anything else for this?
[03:06] Not tonight
[03:07] cool.
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TOPIC: <>New Member Process Wiki
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[03:07] and...new member wiki.
[03:07] I liked what js did last month
[03:07] we started well on this, yeah
[03:08] I suspect a lot of it can actually be on the main wiki page; it needn't be separate
[03:09] i agree, i think the wiki needs an overhaul
[03:10] and this is part, most, of it.
[03:11] I can work up a sample overhaul page next week
[03:11] progress here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WisconsinTeam2
[03:11] thus far
[03:12] Ah, you saw that...
[03:12] ;)
[03:12] is that bad?
[03:12] No. Nothing on a wiki is private.
[03:12] it was linked by someone somewhere, i forget
[03:13] it is nice so far, anyway.
[03:14] I'll resume working on it
[03:14] Cheesehead, feel free, js got us some nice steps
[03:14] cool.
[03:15] Anything else for the evening?
[03:15] * Cheesehead looks out the window
[03:15] nothing from me other that I can hopefully attend on a more regular basis
[03:16] [action] Cheesehead to update a delraft of the wiki
[03:16] what happened there.
[03:16] emefarr_ thanks for coming, it is nice to meet you.
[03:17] nice to meet you as well!
[03:17] emefarr_: To help nominate somebody for Ubuntu Membership, add a testimonial to their wiki page, and (if possible) show up to the IRC membership meeting. My wiki page is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cheesehead . The meeting date is Nov 1, 3 PM CDT in #ubuntu-meeting
[03:18] Cheesehead: thanks!
[03:18] * Cheesehead runs out to his car. Early work tomorrow...
[03:18] same her - up at "quarter to why the heck am i up?"
[03:18] here
[03:18] Brittany is getting restless
[03:18] thanks, all!!
[03:19] see ya, nickmoeck
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