20111026
This is the 4th 2011 meeting of the Wisconsin Team, starting at 21:00 CDT, 20111026 (0200 UTC, 20111027) and finishing at 22:19 CDT (0319 UTC, 20111027)
Attendance
h00k, nickmoeck, emefarr, Cheesehead
Agenda
Meet & Greet
Interest Survey
Becoming an approved LoCo
T-Shirts
New Member Process Wiki
Minutes
Meet & Greet
No actions
Interest Survey
Action - h00k to send interest survey to the mailing list.
Action - h00k to coordinate a bug-reporting session.
Action - h00k to locate a trainer for packaging training session
Becoming an approved LoCo
Application is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WisconsinTeam/ApprovalApplication<<BR>> Please help edit the application before November 9
Action - Cheesehead to fill in "Experience" from the current wiki records
Action - h00k to announce November 9 IRC pre-application meeting
Action - h00k to submit application around November 16.
T-Shirts
No actions
New Member Process Wiki
Action - Cheesehead to finish proposed changes, building on sayonj's work from last month
IRC LOG
IRC Log source
[02:00] <h00k> cool, lets start. [02:00] <nickmoeck> Hi everybody! [02:00] * h00k grabs agenda [02:01] <h00k> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-wisconsin/250/detail/ [02:01] <h00k> there we are
TOPIC: Meet & Greet
[02:02] <h00k> hi, nickmoeck [02:03] <nickmoeck> how have things been going? been a while since I've been around [02:03] <h00k> let us start with a meet and greet. I am Anthony. I'm from Rhinelander. I am the LoCo contact [02:04] <h00k> i try to organize things! [02:04] <h00k> who wants next? [02:04] <nickmoeck> Hi, my name is Nick, and I'm an alcoholic [02:04] <nickmoeck> Oh wait, wrong meeting [02:04] <emefarr_> I'm maurie. From Kimberly, WI [02:05] <h00k> hi Nick [02:05] <h00k> :) [02:05] <nickmoeck> Nick, from Milwaukee [02:05] <emefarr_> I think that Nick and I will get along just fine. [02:05] <Cheesehead> I'm Ian. I live in Milwaukee. I do the Milwaukee Ubuntu Hour and the Tuesday/Thursday Night IRC hangouts [02:05] <h00k> it is a good time! [02:06] * Cheesehead scribbles information about nickmoeck, furtively plaaning to guilt him into attending the MKE Ubuntu Hour [02:06] <nickmoeck> Heh [02:06] <nickmoeck> Might be able to make it to the next one, whenever that is [02:06] <h00k> also, Cheesehead is the note taker [02:07] <h00k> and does Team Reports [02:07] <Cheesehead> and pizza [02:07] <h00k> that, too
TOPIC: Interest Survey
[02:08] <h00k> kinda bring us to item 2. [02:08] <h00k> I'm going to send out a survey of interest [02:09] <h00k> to...survey what people are inteesred in [02:10] <h00k> then we can plan things around those things, and it will be fun. [02:10] <h00k> sound cool? [02:10] <Cheesehead> +1 [02:11] <nickmoeck> Good idea [02:11] <h00k> i like reporting bugs, testing, and physical meet ups [02:11] <h00k> and online met ups [02:11] <h00k> meet, rather [02:12] <h00k> anyone else? [02:13] <h00k> What are you interested in? [02:14] <Cheesehead> This is a topic that affects future LoCo approval, too [02:14] <h00k> YES! [02:14] <h00k> Point 3. [02:14] <nickmoeck> I thought we were already an approved LoCo? [02:14] <h00k> nope [02:14] <emefarr_> reporting bugs & testing as well [02:14] <h00k> not officially [02:14] <h00k> cool. [02:15] <Cheesehead> when we talk about 'bugs', are we talking discovering, triaging, patching, testing...? [02:15] <nickmoeck> I've kinda gotten interested in packaging lately, though I absolutely suck at it [02:15] <Cheesehead> +1 for a packaging tutorial session [02:16] <h00k> cool. [02:16] <emefarr_> 3 out of 4 - discover, triage, test [02:16] <Cheesehead> I believe ripps wanted in on that action, if I recall... [02:16] <Cheesehead> (packaging action) [02:16] <h00k> discover, for me, and reporting them [02:16] <h00k> yes [02:16] <h00k> he's been mentionex on omgubuntu a few times [02:17] <nickmoeck> Am I just one of the lucky ones who almot never runs into bugs? [02:17] <nickmoeck> *almost [02:17] <h00k> i test beta stuff stupidly early for that [02:17] <emefarr_> I have this habit of using alphas as production so I see a few bugs [02:18] <h00k> me too [02:18] <Cheesehead> I was seriously hammered by bug 858122 last week upon upgrade [02:18] <lubotu1> Launchpad bug 858122 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Precise) "incomplete migration to /run (shutdown script order has been demolished)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/858122 [02:18] <emefarr_> despite that ubuntu alphas tend to be more stable than ms releases [02:18] <h00k> and you were able to recover? I hit that one early, too [02:19] <Cheesehead> so...reporting bugs from testing alphas? Is that where our consensus is leading? [02:19] * h00k shrugs [02:19] <h00k> and packaging [02:19] <Cheesehead> h00k: recovery is possible. The solution in comment #22 is a 100% fix for me. [02:20] <h00k> cool. [02:20] <h00k> mine was fixed during a package upgrade during alphas [02:21] <Cheesehead> So should we have somebody spearhead a few bug sessions and somebody else a few poackage sessions? Send around tenative plans on e-mail? [02:21] <h00k> the more things we do to help the community as a whole, the better chance we have of getting approved [02:22] <h00k> yep [02:22] <h00k> I can do a bug reporting session sometime [02:22] <h00k> and if you want to help, emefarr_ [02:22] <emefarr_> I'll do whay I can to help [02:22] <emefarr_> what [02:23] <Cheesehead> Training session? Or hang-out-and-break-it-together session? [02:23] <emefarr_> Well, I seem to have a gift for the "break it" part. ;) [02:23] <Cheesehead> (convenient to get a bug confirmed quickly!) [02:23] <h00k> both, i have one that would work, a bug [02:23] <nickmoeck> I'd help out with the packaging session, except I *really* have no clue what I'm doing when it comes to packaging. I'm surprised my packages even work [02:23] <h00k> i reported it yesterday. [02:24] <Cheesehead> I have a .tar.gz that I'd love to try to package. [02:24] <h00k> nickmoek: perfect. maybe we could bring someone else in for a tutorial, too [02:24] <h00k> a dev or something, a guest [02:25] <nickmoeck> Also I've only ever built packages for a set of python and PHP scripts, so I have no clue how to do packages for compiled code :P [02:25] <Cheesehead> Ask for an interested trainer on the e-mail list? [02:26] <h00k> yep [02:27] <h00k> cool, that is on our to-do list [02:28] <h00k> anything else to add? [02:28] <Cheesehead> Yes... [02:28] <h00k> gogogo [02:28] <Cheesehead> So [action] h00k to lead a bug-reporting session ?? [02:28] <h00k> yes [02:29] <h00k> affirmative [02:29] <Cheesehead> and [action] h00k to request a trainer for packaging tutorial on the e-mail list?? [02:29] <h00k> inded [02:29] <Cheesehead> OK, thanks. [02:29] <h00k> indeed, rather. [02:30] <h00k> previous, [action] h00k to send survey and gather data [02:30] <h00k> yes [02:30] * Cheesehead makes notes [02:31] <h00k> anything else? [02:31] <Cheesehead> No [02:32] <h00k> emefarr_: if i could get yur email...is your contact info on Launchpad? [02:32] <emefarr_> yes [02:32] <h00k> cool. what alias? [02:32] <h00k> Ch [02:33] <emefarr_> emefarr@yahoo.com emefarr = initials em 4 maurie ;) [02:33] <h00k> Cheesehead: I ask you to mention going for your Membership! Also, I'd like to attend [02:34] <h00k> coool. [02:34] <Cheesehead> h00k: I'm sending out an announcement tomorrow or so. Meeting on the first, 3PM [02:34] <h00k> ok.
TOPIC: Becoming an approved LoCo
[02:35] <h00k> next..i think it would be cool to have polos [02:35] <Cheesehead> Wait, waht about getting approved? [02:35] <emefarr_> Cheesehead: what do I need to do to help nominate you? [02:35] <emefarr_> for membership [02:35] <Cheesehead> emefarr_: I'll tell you after the meeting! [02:35] <h00k> ohnoh [02:35] <emefarr_> ok [02:36] <Cheesehead> I was looking over https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved [02:36] <Cheesehead> I think we're close. [02:36] <h00k> i have started a wiki from the getting approved template, we can add on s we go, a resume of sorts [02:37] <h00k> let me find it [02:37] <Cheesehead> I think we're good on "Resources" (IRC, e-amil list, etc) [02:38] <Cheesehead> I think we're good on "Membership", especially since h00k just weeded out the old lists [02:38] <Cheesehead> I think we need to refine "Roadmap" a little [02:38] <Cheesehead> (Much of which will come from the survey results) [02:39] <h00k> yes [02:39] <Cheesehead> And I think we're getting there on "Experience" [02:39] <Cheesehead> We did the Global Jam events [02:39] <h00k> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WisconsinTeam/ApprovalApplication [02:39] <Cheesehead> Rick did the seminars [02:39] <h00k> there we go. [02:39] * Cheesehead shuts up and reads [02:40] <Cheesehead> How do you want to do Roadmap? Edit the wiki? E-mail comments? [02:40] <h00k> thebLaunchpad membership list is accurate, yes. i think e had another ezpire the other day thoug [02:40] <h00k> h [02:41] <h00k> lag... [02:41] <h00k> i think editing the wiki is okay, we can always check revision history, etc [02:42] <Cheesehead> Since we have notes, we can fill in Experience. I can have a lot of that ready for you in the next couple days [02:42] <h00k> awesome. [02:42] <Cheesehead> Deadline for revisions and suggestions? [02:42] <h00k> two weeks [02:42] <Cheesehead> Tentative goal for submitting the application? [02:42] <h00k> giving survey time tobeaccounted for [02:43] <h00k> hm... [02:43] <h00k> three weeks? [02:43] <Cheesehead> You want someone from locoteams to give it a health check first? [02:44] <h00k> one week to polish, we should meet in 2 weeks [02:44] <h00k> yes, absolutely [02:45] <Cheesehead> OK [02:45] * Cheesehead shuts up so others can speak! [02:45] <h00k> sound ok? [02:45] <h00k> anyoneelse? [02:45] <emefarr_> sounds good [02:45] <h00k> this spacebar is hard to find sometimes. [02:46] <h00k> apologies. [02:47] <h00k> nickmoek? [02:47] <h00k> nickmoeck* [02:47] <nickmoeck> Oh, hi. Sorry, was distracted [02:48] <h00k> no prob :) [02:49] <nickmoeck> I think we'll have no problem getting accepted [02:49] <h00k> i hope :) [02:49] <h00k> then we're cool.
TOPIC: T-Shirts
[02:50] <h00k> and....cool people need shirts! [02:51] <nickmoeck> Indeed! [02:51] <h00k> if we had a cool idea for a logo... [02:51] <h00k> we could get sweet polos [02:52] <h00k> hint hint. if anyone is ok at The Gimp, we could have another call for art on the Mailing lisyt [02:53] <nickmoeck> I might have some time to try drawing something up. Just something basic. Ubuntu logo inside the outline of the state or something similar [02:54] <h00k> or like the ubuntu logo textwith Wisconskn after, then the circle offriends [02:54] <h00k> [02:54] <emefarr_> no ubuntu logo inside a packer-badger-brewer logo? ;) [02:54] <h00k> something cool, yeah [02:54] <nickmoeck> emefarr_: I was actually thinking of how something like that would look lol [02:55] <emefarr_> you'll have to do it, though nick - i can't draw even WITH computer help! [02:55] <h00k> lol [02:55] <nickmoeck> Honestly, I think it would end up looking pretty bad [02:56] <emefarr_> way too many colors [02:56] <nickmoeck> Yeah [02:56] <h00k> cool. i can also send that out. QUICK, someone invent a deadline! A month? Few weeks? [02:56] <nickmoeck> plus I don't think we want to imply any kind of sponsorship/approval of the teams [02:56] <nickmoeck> of/by [02:57] <nickmoeck> Well, a logo is pretty simple. I'd say 2 weeks or so [02:57] <emefarr_> ubuntu logo superimposed on a Cheesehead? ;) [02:57] <h00k> cool. [02:58] <nickmoeck> yes! [02:58] <nickmoeck> or.... ubuntu logo made out of cheese [02:58] <emefarr_> even better [02:59] <h00k> oho. [03:00] <h00k> anything else for this subject? [03:00] <h00k> we'll need to figure out where to get them and pricing, too [03:03] <nickmoeck> although there are cheap options online, I'd say we should support local Wisconsin businesses and try to find someplace in Madison or Milwaukee that can do it for a reasonable price [03:03] <h00k> I concur [03:03] <emefarr_> agreed [03:05] <h00k> anyone care to volunteer? [03:05] <h00k> to seek one ouy? [03:05] <h00k> t [03:06] <h00k> Cheesehead: anything else for this? [03:06] <Cheesehead> Not tonight [03:07] <h00k> cool.
TOPIC: New Member Process Wiki
[03:07] <h00k> and...new member wiki. [03:07] <Cheesehead> I liked what js did last month [03:07] <h00k> we started well on this, yeah [03:08] <Cheesehead> I suspect a lot of it can actually be on the main wiki page; it needn't be separate [03:09] <h00k> i agree, i think the wiki needs an overhaul [03:10] <h00k> and this is part, most, of it. [03:11] <Cheesehead> I can work up a sample overhaul page next week [03:11] <h00k> progress here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WisconsinTeam2 [03:11] <h00k> thus far [03:12] <Cheesehead> Ah, you saw that... [03:12] <h00k> ;) [03:12] <h00k> is that bad? [03:12] <Cheesehead> No. Nothing on a wiki is private. [03:12] <h00k> it was linked by someone somewhere, i forget [03:13] <h00k> it is nice so far, anyway. [03:14] <Cheesehead> I'll resume working on it [03:14] <h00k> Cheesehead, feel free, js got us some nice steps [03:14] <h00k> cool. [03:15] <h00k> Anything else for the evening? [03:15] * Cheesehead looks out the window [03:15] <emefarr_> nothing from me other that I can hopefully attend on a more regular basis [03:16] <h00k> [action] Cheesehead to update a delraft of the wiki [03:16] <h00k> what happened there. [03:16] <h00k> emefarr_ thanks for coming, it is nice to meet you. [03:17] <emefarr_> nice to meet you as well! [03:17] <Cheesehead> emefarr_: To help nominate somebody for Ubuntu Membership, add a testimonial to their wiki page, and (if possible) show up to the IRC membership meeting. My wiki page is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cheesehead . The meeting date is Nov 1, 3 PM CDT in #ubuntu-meeting [03:18] <emefarr_> Cheesehead: thanks! [03:18] * Cheesehead runs out to his car. Early work tomorrow... [03:18] <emefarr_> same her - up at "quarter to why the heck am i up?" [03:18] <emefarr_> here [03:18] <h00k> Brittany is getting restless [03:18] <h00k> thanks, all!! [03:19] <h00k> see ya, nickmoeck
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