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Nov 25 12:00:52 <charlie-tca>   #startmeeting
Nov 25 12:00:54 <MootBot>       Meeting started at 13:01. The chair is charlie-tca.
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Nov 25 12:01:13 <charlie-tca>   Well, let's do this then. The agenda for today is 
Nov 25 12:01:27 <charlie-tca>   [TOPIC] Agenda
Nov 25 12:01:28 <MootBot>       New Topic:  Agenda
Nov 25 12:01:30 <charlie-tca>   # Old business
Nov 25 12:01:30 <charlie-tca>   # Team updates (Packaging, Bug Triage, Development / Coding, Testing, Documentation, Artwork)
Nov 25 12:01:30 <charlie-tca>   # Announcements
Nov 25 12:01:30 <charlie-tca>   # Changes for Natty Narwhal
Nov 25 12:01:30 <charlie-tca>   # Continue working with the new Governance structure
Nov 25 12:01:30 <charlie-tca>   # Any Other Business 
Nov 25 12:02:04 <charlie-tca>   [TOPIC] Old business
Nov 25 12:02:05 <MootBot>       New Topic:  Old business
Nov 25 12:02:31 <charlie-tca>   Carried over from the last meeting:
Nov 25 12:02:32 <charlie-tca>   charlie-tca to get with thorwil and Saleel about artwork specs by email 
Nov 25 12:02:52 <charlie-tca>   There is now a lively discussion taking place on the community artwork mailing list - 
Nov 25 12:03:19 <charlie-tca>   [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2010-November/012604.html
Nov 25 12:03:21 <MootBot>       LINK received:  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2010-November/012604.html
Nov 25 12:03:50 <charlie-tca>   We have drawn up a draft of artwork specs for Xubuntu wallpaper, and any input is welcomed. 
Nov 25 12:04:06 <charlie-tca>   [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0007_Xubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper
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Nov 25 12:04:07 <MootBot>       LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0007_Xubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper
Nov 25 12:04:23 *       bittin (~bittin@c213-100-110-172.swipnet.se) has joined #ubuntu-meeting
Nov 25 12:04:30 <bittin>        has the Xubuntu meeting started?
Nov 25 12:04:35 <highvoltage>   bittin: yep
Nov 25 12:04:41 <charlie-tca>   If you aren't on the ml, let me know and I will forward suggestions/guidance
Nov 25 12:04:48 <charlie-tca>   Welcome, bittin 
Nov 25 12:04:53 <bittin>        iam on the ml
Nov 25 12:05:03 <bittin>        hackerbittin@googlemail.com
Nov 25 12:05:04 <cody-somerville>       Interesting discussions going on there.
Nov 25 12:05:07 <charlie-tca>   That was for the artwork mailing list, bittin 
Nov 25 12:05:13 <bittin>        ah
Nov 25 12:05:16 <bittin>        sorry
Nov 25 12:05:52 <charlie-tca>   Along with the wallpaper discussion there, 
Nov 25 12:05:54 <charlie-tca>   Ochosi is currently reworking the xubuntu gtk-theme (aka bluebird), feel free to check it out @ http://shimmerproject.org/hg/bluebird-colors > greybird. in response to the reviews being somewhat divided regarding the blue i started by reducing it
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Nov 25 12:06:19 <cody-somerville>       Is Bluebird based off of Albatros at all?
Nov 25 12:06:40 <charlie-tca>   um, yes, in that it does use the same engine and started there
Nov 25 12:07:25 <cody-somerville>       I met the author of Albatros at UDS Brussels. I was surprised to find out that he is the same guy who did Ubuntu's new themes.
Nov 25 12:07:26 <charlie-tca>   Ochosi is particularily interested in  * panel
Nov 25 12:07:26 <charlie-tca>    * window-switcher (alt-tab)
Nov 25 12:07:26 <charlie-tca>    * scrollbars
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Nov 25 12:07:47 <charlie-tca>   He is a really good artist.
Nov 25 12:08:05 <cody-somerville>       charlie-tca, Ochosi or the author of Albatros?
Nov 25 12:08:17 <charlie-tca>   the author of Albatros
Nov 25 12:08:25 <cody-somerville>       Is he helping us with Natty?
Nov 25 12:08:29 <charlie-tca>   Not to take anything away from ochosi, either
Nov 25 12:08:41 <charlie-tca>   the albatross author is not helping at the moment
Nov 25 12:08:44 <cody-somerville>       (Interesting tidbit, the Author of Albatros is actually a cop in real life)
Nov 25 12:08:59 <highvoltage>   cool :)
Nov 25 12:09:21 <charlie-tca>   neat1
Nov 25 12:09:31 <cody-somerville>       charlie-tca, so is the 'lighter' theme a direction we're going to continue with for natty?
Nov 25 12:09:37 <cody-somerville>       ('lighter' as in color)
Nov 25 12:09:39 <charlie-tca>   I hope so
Nov 25 12:09:55 <charlie-tca>   dark is nice, but lighter is easier for accessibility 
Nov 25 12:10:16 <charlie-tca>   Ochosi is also working on an xfce-complete version of faenza (based on 0.7) which you can check out here: http://shimmerproject.org/hg/faenza-xfce
Nov 25 12:10:16 <charlie-tca>   Please give feedback to myself or ochosi on IRC
Nov 25 12:10:38 <charlie-tca>   um, if anybody else wants to pick up this artwork thing, I would be thrilled
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Nov 25 12:10:57 <charlie-tca>   I am like a fish out of water with it sometimes
Nov 25 12:11:02 *       cody-somerville is no artist either.
Nov 25 12:11:34 <charlie-tca>   Well, that's all I have on artwork. Any questions or comments?
Nov 25 12:12:39 <charlie-tca>   I am going to consider the artwork action item closed. I will continue to pursue things with the artwork community.
Nov 25 12:12:59 <charlie-tca>   The other two action items, I did not get to.
Nov 25 12:13:36 <charlie-tca>   [TOPIC] Team updates
Nov 25 12:13:37 <MootBot>       New Topic:  Team updates
Nov 25 12:13:51 <charlie-tca>   mr_pouit, did you make it?
Nov 25 12:14:14 <charlie-tca>   From the developers team: the only "news" since last week is the upload of exo 0.5.5 to natty ;-)
Nov 25 12:14:24 <charlie-tca>   Unless cody-somerville or micahg has more?
Nov 25 12:14:55 <cody-somerville>       Nothing in particular from me today
Nov 25 12:15:02 *       micahg is still learning
Nov 25 12:15:08 <charlie-tca>   From the documentation team:
Nov 25 12:15:41 <charlie-tca>   We do have an individual working the Xubuntu docs. He is working on updating things and I will have more on that the next meeting.
Nov 25 12:16:30 <charlie-tca>   From the bugs and testing team: We are hoping to see more people involved in testing. If we do not have anyone committed to test, we will not produce the image.
Nov 25 12:16:49 <charlie-tca>   For Alpha1, we will have i386 and amd64 images
Nov 25 12:17:37 <charlie-tca>   We already discussed artwork, and we really need a marketing director
Nov 25 12:18:03 <charlie-tca>   Any questions on team updates?
Nov 25 12:18:30 <charlie-tca>   [TOPIC] Announcements
Nov 25 12:18:31 <MootBot>       New Topic:  Announcements
Nov 25 12:19:19 <charlie-tca>   We will be putting out the Natty Alpha1 cd's next week. These are the first of a great release! It will not have Xfce4.8 in alpha1, though.
Nov 25 12:19:59 <charlie-tca>   We would really appreciate any help with testing these images starting November 30
Nov 25 12:20:12 <charlie-tca>   Any other announcements?
Nov 25 12:20:48 <charlie-tca>   [TOPIC] Continue working with the new Governance structure 
Nov 25 12:20:49 <MootBot>       New Topic:  Continue working with the new Governance structure
Nov 25 12:21:04 <charlie-tca>   There should have been an action item last time for this, too. 
Nov 25 12:21:40 <charlie-tca>   I sent out an email to both Xubuntu Developers mailing list and the Community Council that we are looking to have a permanent Project Lead.
Nov 25 12:21:56 <charlie-tca>   It does take two nominees to have an election.
Nov 25 12:22:35 <charlie-tca>   I will be a nominee, and will send my name to the CC this next week. Nominations are open until the 15th of December.
Nov 25 12:23:13 <charlie-tca>   I do not want to go through another release without this happening, please. 
Nov 25 12:23:19 <charlie-tca>   any comments?
Nov 25 12:24:08 <charlie-tca>   Feel free to speak up. I promise not to bite anyone!
Nov 25 12:24:48 *       highvoltage is just reading
Nov 25 12:25:13 <highvoltage>   charlie-tca: who may nominate and who may be nominated, btw?
Nov 25 12:25:19 <charlie-tca>   Well, I feel this is very important, and don't really see a need to continue the rest of the governance discussions until we can do something.
Nov 25 12:25:44 <charlie-tca>   any individual may nominate him/her self or another person. 
Nov 25 12:25:57 *       micahg was going to nominate charlie-tca
Nov 25 12:26:00 <charlie-tca>   Nominee names need to be sent to the CC
Nov 25 12:26:10 <highvoltage>   micahg: I second that
Nov 25 12:27:42 <charlie-tca>   see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2010-November/007614.html
Nov 25 12:29:06 <charlie-tca>   I will accept the nomination, but I think we will need two names to have a vote. I did give the CC a second proposal, though. We will see what happens
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Nov 25 12:29:42 <charlie-tca>   Any other discussion on governance?
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Nov 25 12:30:17 <charlie-tca>   [TOPIC] Any Other Business 
Nov 25 12:30:19 <MootBot>       New Topic:  Any Other Business
Nov 25 12:30:32 <charlie-tca>   Okay, everybody at once now
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Nov 25 12:31:16 <charlie-tca>   going...
Nov 25 12:31:34 <charlie-tca>   going 2....
Nov 25 12:32:25 <charlie-tca>   I will thank all of you for attending. Next meeting is Thursday, 2 Dec, same place, 19:00 UTC. Minutes will be published again.
Nov 25 12:32:42 <highvoltage>   micahg: are you going to email the CC?
Nov 25 12:32:59 <micahg>        highvoltage: charlie-tca said he was going to nominate himseld
Nov 25 12:33:04 <charlie-tca>   Meeting times and minutes are kept at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
Nov 25 12:33:06 <highvoltage>   ok cool
Nov 25 12:33:12 <micahg>        *himself, does there need to be more people nominating him?
Nov 25 12:33:25 <charlie-tca>   micahg, yes, I think there should be. 
Nov 25 12:33:33 <charlie-tca>   I will not nominate myself if you want to
Nov 25 12:33:40 <micahg>        charlie-tca: ok, I'll be happy to send a mail then
Nov 25 12:33:45 <charlie-tca>   Thank you
Nov 25 12:34:02 <charlie-tca>   Anything else?
Nov 25 12:34:13 <micahg>        charlie-tca: thank you for doing such a great job as Project Lead :)
Nov 25 12:34:16 <charlie-tca>   Thank you very much!
Nov 25 12:34:27 <charlie-tca>   I am learning everyday
Nov 25 12:34:34 <charlie-tca>   #endmeeting
Nov 25 12:34:35 <MootBot>       Meeting finished at 13:35.