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== Ubuntu Open Week - Ubuntu Studio - Cory Kontros - Sat, Apr 28, 2007 == | == Ubuntu Open Week - Ubuntu Studio - Joseph Jackson IV - Sat, Apr 28, 2007 == === All Timestamps are GMT-4 === {{{ 15:52 < joejaxx> how many people are here for the ubuntu studio session? 15:52 * octoberdan raises hand 15:52 * txwikinger 15:52 * ditsch is here 15:52 * Sanne is here 15:52 * janjimusptfajar is here 15:52 * troy_s is here. 15:52 * txwikinger is here 15:52 * Belutz is here 15:52 * samgee_ too 15:52 * MikeDK here 15:52 < octoberdan> joejaxx: Some may be logging it to read it later 15:53 < joejaxx> ok we will wait a few it is not 20:00 exactly yet 15:53 * lotusleaf giggles 15:53 < joejaxx> octoberdan: ok 15:53 * radmen is also here ;] 15:54 < tsmithe> i'm here for the session 15:54 -!- robert____ [n=robert__@ACCFED4C.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 15:54 * tsmithe huggles joejaxx 15:54 < joejaxx> tsmithe: :P 15:54 < radmen> joejaxx: yeah it's 21:54 ;p 15:54 < troy_s> tsmithe: The 'UglyAssMofosConvention' is down the hall... 15:54 * Belutz begin to get sleepy >_< 15:54 < tsmithe> joejaxx, troy_s; can i learn more about ubuntustudio? 15:54 * janjimusptfajar 04:00 AM here 15:54 * lotusleaf gives coffee to Belutz 15:55 < Belutz> lotusleaf, thanks 15:55 < joejaxx> can someone relay questions once we start the q+a after the introduction of the project? 15:55 < lotusleaf> :) 15:55 * corevette is here also 15:55 < lotusleaf> Belutz: I added some habanero juice to it 15:55 * janjimusptfajar give nice girl to Belutz :D 15:55 < Belutz> janjimusptfajar, i only sleep for 4 hours yesterday 15:55 < Belutz> s/sleep/slept 15:56 -!- festival_gaim [n=ralfm@dslb-084-058-167-152.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:56 < Belutz> joejaxx, i'll try to do it 15:56 < joejaxx> Belutz: ok thanks 15:56 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+o tsmithe] by ChanServ 15:56 < janjimusptfajar> Belutz: woooww... what your secret to do that? 15:56 < Belutz> joejaxx, hopes it makes me awake 15:57 < joejaxx> :) 15:57 < joejaxx> ok i think it is time to start 15:57 -!- heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 15:57 < Belutz> janjimusptfajar, the ubuntu spirit keeps me awake :D 15:57 < isti> i think ubuntu is ok 15:57 -!- ranf [n=ralfm@dslb-084-058-167-152.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Success] 15:57 < joejaxx> Hello Everyone i am Joe Jaxx the technical lead for the Ubuntu Studio project 15:58 * janjimusptfajar looking my wife sleeping... 8| 15:58 < isti> linux is 10000000000 better than windows 15:58 < joejaxx> _MMA_ who is the project lead could not make it today and asked if i could lead the session in his stead 15:58 -!- ranf [n=ralfm@dslb-084-058-151-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 15:58 < joejaxx> leads* 15:58 < joejaxx> i will give a little background about the project 15:58 -!- illu45 [n=illusha@p81ds3xi.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 15:59 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+o jenda] by ChanServ 15:59 < joejaxx> Ubuntu Studio originally started as a concept from a wiki that was started 15:59 < joejaxx> to give users how tos on setting up an audio studio environment on their ubuntu workstations 16:00 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [-oo tsmithe jenda] by ChanServ 16:00 < joejaxx> a small group of people came together with this similar concept of actually creating a ubuntu flavour geared toward multimedia creation 16:01 -!- mofobofo [n=fuck@bb-87-80-127-196.ukonline.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] 16:01 < joejaxx> from what started as a chain mailing list, has created a full fledge Ubuntu "remix" geared towards giving ubuntu users 16:01 < joejaxx> the tools they need to expand their creativity when dealing with multimedia 16:02 < isti> what is the best game for Linux ? 16:02 < tsmithe> isti, not in here please :) 16:02 -!- stuart__ [n=stuart@bb-87-80-127-196.ukonline.co.uk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:02 < isti> ok 16:02 < isti> i am sorry 16:02 < joejaxx> In doing this we have created three "categories" that Ubuntu Studio aims at (or types of users) 16:03 < joejaxx> Audio, Graphical and Video 16:03 < joejaxx> we provide different tools that benefit the user the best in each category 16:04 -!- samgee [n=samgee@220.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:04 < joejaxx> for example in the audio category 16:04 < joejaxx> we provide ardour2 rosegarden jackd 16:04 < joejaxx> we also provide a lowlatency kernel (thanks BenC :) ) 16:04 < isti> what could i ask here =) 16:04 -!- bobmachine111 [n=bobmachi@ool-45736852.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:05 -!- cedrick [n=cedrick@243.155.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:05 < Belutz> isti, ask in #ubuntu-classroom-chat 16:06 < joejaxx> We also try and work closely with upstream 16:06 < isti> no i mean whats the tema 16:06 -!- ougachaka [n=yann@ARennes-352-1-23-165.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:06 < joejaxx> and this method works very well as people are happy to contribute to something that is benenficial to people 16:07 < joejaxx> concerning their software creation 16:07 < isti> oh good 16:07 < joejaxx> We are also about staying close to the Ubuntu community as much as possible and giving back to it 16:08 -!- ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has quit [""Testing irssi, once again""] 16:08 < isti> could you tell me what ubuntu studio is ? (sorry i do not now about that) 16:08 -!- ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:08 < joejaxx> We are comprised of a diverse group of individuals all working towards the same purpose 16:09 < Belutz> isti, please ask in #ubuntu-classroom-chat 16:09 < troy_s> ISTI -- READ THE WIKI -- Quiet during presentation. Thank you. 16:09 < joejaxx> our team list is located here 16:09 < joejaxx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TeamStructure 16:09 < isti> thanks 16:09 < joejaxx> The packages that we include in each of the categories of creativity are included here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList 16:10 -!- raindog [n=marty@pm840-01.dialip.mich.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:10 < isti> i read it comes this april 16:11 < tsmithe> isti, this is not the place. #ubuntu-classroom-chat 16:11 < tsmithe> you've been referred there many times now :) 16:11 < isti> oh i am so sorry 16:11 < joejaxx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio This is our wiki page in case you want to read up some more about that project 16:11 < isti> ok 16:11 < joejaxx> it is currently under heavy maintenance though 16:12 < joejaxx> So that is what the Ubuntu Studio Project is about 16:12 -!- davmor2 [n=davmor2@82-45-48-19.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:12 < joejaxx> expanding multimedia creativity through ubuntu :) 16:13 < dave_> I have been really excited about about ubuntustudio, could you tell me more about the development of the lowlatency rt kernel ?? 16:13 < corevette> dave_ ask in #ubuntu-classroom-chat 16:13 < Belutz> dave, please ask in #ubuntu-classroom-chat 16:13 < joejaxx> ok now the Q+A session 16:14 < Belutz> <awkorama> QUESTION: What NLE video programs do u provide? 16:14 < dave_> nobody is in ubuntu classroom chat !! 16:15 < jussi01> dave_: read the wiki please!! 16:15 < joejaxx> we current include kino 16:15 < joejaxx> as a non linear editor 16:16 < janjimusptfajar> where is ops? where i must write my question? here or in classroom-chat? 16:16 < Belutz> <janjimusptfajar> QUESTION: What minimum requirement to run this 16:17 -!- davmor2 [n=davmor2@82-45-48-19.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] 16:17 < joejaxx> janjimusptfajar: the minimum requirements would be the same as ubuntu 16:17 < joejaxx> but 16:17 -!- sletz [n=letz@vil69-4-82-228-206-231.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:17 < joejaxx> when you are doing multitrack audio recording 16:17 < joejaxx> and video rendering 16:17 < joejaxx> those require high requirements 16:18 < joejaxx> it really depends on what level of usage you plan with Ubuntu Studio 16:18 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+o PriceChild] by ChanServ 16:18 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+oo joejaxx Belutz] by PriceChild 16:18 <@Belutz> <lotusleaf> QUESTION: Does Ubuntu Studio provide an easy way for the user to enable MIDI without digging through documentation? If not, will it? 16:18 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+m] by PriceChild 16:18 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+o tsmithe] by ChanServ 16:19 <@tsmithe> lotusleaf, as i said in -chat (and i'd like to reiterate here, joejaxx ;) ): some midi features by default require a hardware synthesizer, or the installation of timidity and configuration of the daemon (/etc/default/timidity) 16:19 <@tsmithe> i'd be unsure as to why any hardware sequencers should not just work if alsa provides support 16:20 <@joejaxx> yes 16:20 <@Belutz> <janjimusptfajar> QUESTION: WHEN it will released? 16:20 <@joejaxx> janjimusptfajar: we get this question alot 16:21 <@joejaxx> the Ubuntu Studio release has been delayed and we have not set a release date yet pending this circumstances that have come up 16:21 -!- seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:21 -!- deniz_ogut [n=chatzill@81.215.99.86] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:21 -!- seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] 16:22 <@joejaxx> it will be released when ready :) 16:22 <@joejaxx> it will be worth the wait 16:22 <@joejaxx> i assure you 16:23 <@joejaxx> even with the discs 16:23 <@joejaxx> at the end of the installation 16:23 <@joejaxx> you will be able to choose "your path" or the categories that you want installed 16:23 <@joejaxx> either one a combination or all (audio, graphical, video) 16:24 <@joejaxx> :) 16:24 <@Belutz> <dave_> I have been really excited about about ubuntustudio, could you tell me more about the development of the lowlatency rt kernel ?? 16:25 <@joejaxx> yes right now we have a lowlatency kernel which has an adjusted timer 16:25 <@joejaxx> and some other tweaks 16:25 <@joejaxx> (thanks again BenC ) 16:25 <@Belutz> <janjimusptfajar> QUESTION: how about license? 16:26 <@joejaxx> we will also be trying to get a full RT in but that will happen after the release 16:26 <@joejaxx> we will release the discs with the lowlatency kernel 16:26 <@joejaxx> and re roll the discs with the RT one after some testing is done on it 16:27 <@joejaxx> for feisty that is :) 16:27 -!- sletz [n=letz@vil69-4-82-228-206-231.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] 16:27 -!- sletz [n=letz@vil69-4-82-228-206-231.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:27 <@joejaxx> Gutsy will have a RT kernel 16:28 <@tsmithe> thanks BenC :P 16:28 <@joejaxx> :) 16:28 <@Belutz> <janjimusptfajar> QUESTION: how about license? 16:29 <@joejaxx> we use the Ubuntu lowlatency kernel :P 16:29 <@joejaxx> so it is licensed as Ubuntu has 16:29 <@tsmithe> everything we take from ubuntu has the same licence 16:29 <@joejaxx> yeap 16:30 <@tsmithe> each of our own packages has its own licence 16:30 -!- dave_ [n=fiddler5@h234.133.29.71.ip.alltel.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:30 <@tsmithe> and you should look into that through the normal channels 16:30 <@joejaxx> ok next question as there is quite a long queue 16:30 <@Belutz> <Daviey> QUESTION: What repo are you trying to get your stuff into? Universe or your own? 16:30 <@joejaxx> regarding the repository 16:31 -!- sb_ [n=sb@p548C40AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:31 <@joejaxx> we are trying (going back to our being involved in the ubuntu community) to get everything into universe 16:31 <@joejaxx> only thing that are essential and cannot go into universe not because of licensing but because of packaging issues will go into our repository 16:32 -!- fiddler59 [n=chatzill@h234.133.29.71.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:32 <@Belutz> <ditsch> QUESTION: Does the studio support restricted formats such as mp3 by default? 16:32 <@joejaxx> no we do not include anything that ubuntu does regarding restricted formats 16:32 <@tsmithe> we use the same infrastructure as ubuntu to handle codecs :) 16:32 <@joejaxx> does not* 16:32 <@joejaxx> yes 16:32 <@joejaxx> :) 16:33 <@Belutz> <Sanne> QUESTION: will Ubuntu Studio support the same architectures as the main repositories (especially amd64)? 16:33 <@tsmithe> ditsch, (so easy-codec-installation should still apply where it does in ubuntu feisty) 16:33 <@joejaxx> right now we are supporting only i386 but do not fear 16:33 <@joejaxx> we are heavy looking into amd64 16:33 <@joejaxx> heavily* 16:33 <@joejaxx> since alot of people use those as audio workstations 16:33 <@joejaxx> and video as well 16:34 -!- deniz_ogut [n=chatzill@81.215.99.86] has quit [Client Quit] 16:34 <@Belutz> <janjimusptfajar> QUESTION: where is i can find the screenshot? the link in the website is not work 16:34 -!- raindo2 [n=marty@pm725-28.dialip.mich.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:35 <@joejaxx> janjimusptfajar: i do not think we have released a full screenshot to my knowledge 16:35 <@joejaxx> i might be mistaken 16:35 <@joejaxx> fullscreen screenshot* that is 16:35 <@tsmithe> if joejaxx is, then the website is undergoing some changes, and this may have disrupted it 16:35 <@tsmithe> *minor changes 16:35 -!- lotusleaf [n=raindrop@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has left #uBUNtu-classROOM [] 16:35 <@joejaxx> yes 16:36 <@Belutz> <nothlit> QUESTION: kino? What about cinelerra? 16:36 -!- neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44138.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Client Quit] 16:36 <@joejaxx> ok here we go :) 16:36 <@tsmithe> finally! :P 16:36 <@joejaxx> We are looking heavily into Cinelerra and into packaging it 16:36 <@joejaxx> there are a couple of problems though 16:36 -!- shiyee [n=Shiyee@0x535854b3.abnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] 16:37 <@joejaxx> the main one is ALOT of the source does not state the license 16:37 <@tsmithe> couple!! 16:37 <@joejaxx> tsmithe: :P 16:37 <@joejaxx> we need to go through the source manually 16:37 <@joejaxx> and confirm the source for each file 16:37 <@joejaxx> bah 16:37 <@joejaxx> license* 16:37 <@joejaxx> confirm the license* 16:37 <@joejaxx> this really needs to be a community effort 16:38 <@tsmithe> wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/CinelerraReview is our method, and upstream is also catching on to the importance 16:38 <@joejaxx> and we would like people to help 16:38 <@Belutz> <BHSPitMonkey> QUESTION: Besides simply shipping with a few relevant media programs, what does Ubuntu Studio as a project really entail? 16:38 <@joejaxx> another issue is Sources being licensed wrongly 16:38 <@Belutz> (oops too fast) 16:38 <@joejaxx> Security updates is an issue as well 16:39 <@joejaxx> as Cinelerra uses a modified version of fmpeg 16:39 <@joejaxx> ffmpeg* 16:39 <@tsmithe> amongst other libraries 16:39 <@tsmithe> (quicktime etc etc) 16:39 <@joejaxx> and using the ubuntu ones would probably hinder some of the functionality 16:39 -!- rothfuss [n=rothfuss@c-67-188-235-151.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:39 <@joejaxx> so we need to look more into that issue 16:40 <@tsmithe> help out! 16:40 <@joejaxx> we would really like the community to help us AND upstream with CinelerraCV 16:40 <@joejaxx> it would really make a differnece 16:40 <@joejaxx> difference* 16:40 * joejaxx cannot type today 16:40 <@tsmithe> upstream need motivation, really 16:41 <@joejaxx> yes 16:41 <@tsmithe> pressure is a good motivator :P 16:41 -!- eRazor [n=madhu@59.92.141.129] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:41 <@joejaxx> people helping == upstream motivation :) 16:42 <@tsmithe> i suggest if you want to help out, you come chat in #ubuntustudio, and read the spec 16:42 <@joejaxx> ok next question 16:42 <@Belutz> <BHSPitMonkey> QUESTION: Besides simply shipping with a few relevant media programs, what does Ubuntu Studio as a project really entail? 16:43 <@joejaxx> besides having everything in a nice package 16:43 -!- tsmithe changed the topic of #ubuntu-classroom to: "Welcome to the Ubuntu Open Week || SCHEDULE: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek - SCHEDULE CHANGES, PLEASE SEE THE TIMETABLE || RULES: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Rules Please respect them || LOGS: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs || Ask questions and chat in #ubuntu-classroom-chat, "QUESTION: <insert question here> | CURRENT SESSION: UbuntuStudio - joejaxx 16:43 <@joejaxx> Ubuntu Studio is a community 16:43 <@joejaxx> a community of those who share creavitive and artistic abilities and love ubuntu at the same time 16:44 <@joejaxx> we have an irc channel which is #ubuntustudio 16:44 <@joejaxx> and we will soon have a ubuntu studio section on the ubuntu forums 16:44 <@joejaxx> we are really about ubuntu and community that is our main focus 16:44 <@joejaxx> :) 16:44 <@tsmithe> and we will be working hard to make multimedia production on ubuntu rock! 16:44 <@joejaxx> yes 16:45 <@joejaxx> most definitely 16:45 <@tsmithe> (and as ubuntu develops, we will rocket after :D) 16:45 <@joejaxx> :) 16:45 <@joejaxx> next question 16:45 -!- awk_ [i=awk@chello085216152082.chello.sk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:45 -!- awk [i=awk@chello085216152082.chello.sk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:45 <@Belutz> <Sanne> QUESTION: will there be restricted drivers for the Ubuntu Studio Kernel? 16:45 <@tsmithe> yes 16:45 <@Belutz> <Daviey> QUESTION: Are the post-install options part of ubiquity or a separate app? 16:45 <@joejaxx> ok 16:45 <@joejaxx> about that 16:46 <@joejaxx> we will only be shipping text installer cds 16:46 <@joejaxx> the reason being there is not much to "try out" if there were a livecd 16:46 <@joejaxx> as most stuff is backend 16:46 <@joejaxx> (lowlatency kernel etc) 16:47 <@tsmithe> ie it's best run from the hd, and we don't want to roll hundreds of test cds, and separate out audio/video/graphics tasks etc etc 16:47 <@joejaxx> and i do not think you could do an Audio session or video editting on a livecd (well you could but it would be a hassle: ie mounting a partition/external hard drive) 16:47 <@joejaxx> it would not be wise to do that off a livecd that is 16:48 <@joejaxx> the options would be right at the end of the text installer 16:48 <@joejaxx> right after it installed the base 16:48 <@joejaxx> :) 16:48 <@joejaxx> next question 16:48 <@Belutz> <Sanne> QUESTION: will it be possible to install some apps from Ubuntu Studio into standard *buntu? 16:48 <@joejaxx> yes 16:48 -!- LjL [n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl] has quit [Client Quit] 16:48 -!- eRazor [n=madhu@59.92.141.129] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] 16:48 <@joejaxx> we utilize the ubuntu repository for 96% of everything 16:49 <@Belutz> <fiddler59> when are the ubuntustudio meta pkgs to be updated in the repos ?? 16:49 <@tsmithe> that other 4% of all the packages is drawn from the ether 16:49 <@joejaxx> the other 4% is stuff that could not be included in universe because of freeze policies 16:49 <@joejaxx> or packaging issues 16:49 <@joejaxx> fiddler59: yes i will be submitting a bug update for them soon 16:49 -!- raindog [n=marty@pm840-01.dialip.mich.net] has quit [No route to host] 16:50 <@Belutz> <bobmachine111> QUESTION: What about support? I know its based off of Feisty, but I tried DeMude a while back and I couldnt update without destroying a vast array of packages. Basically what I was told by DeMude support was, I had to use what DeMude came with. How will this compare to that situation? 16:50 <@joejaxx> we will be trusting in ourselves and the ubuntu studio community for support 16:50 <@joejaxx> as we cannot ourselves answer a 1000 questions 16:51 <@joejaxx> but if the ubuntu studio community helps 16:51 <@joejaxx> we can all share knowledge and answer questions 16:51 -!- janjimusptfajar [n=ubuntu@203.84.142.95] has quit [Client Quit] 16:51 <@joejaxx> #ubuntustudio will be for support questions after release (not yet though) 16:51 <@joejaxx> and we will have the ubuntu studio section on the forums :) 16:52 <@joejaxx> we will try and answer ubuntu studio related questions according 16:52 <@joejaxx> :) 16:52 <@joejaxx> next question? 16:52 <@Belutz> <octoberdan> QUESTION: What will be the default window manager? 16:52 <@joejaxx> we use Gnome 16:53 <@Belutz> <cedrick> what version of alsa you incorpore ? 16:53 <@joejaxx> 1.0.13 16:53 <@Belutz> <illu45> QUESTION: Do you plan on having tutorials/lectures for people interested in learning how to use some of the programs you plan to include in UbuntuStudio 16:54 -!- ranf [n=ralfm@dslb-084-058-151-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:54 <@joejaxx> that has been discussed but only lightly 16:54 <@joejaxx> we will probably be discussing more about that in the future within the team 16:54 -!- shiyee [n=Shiyee@0x535854b3.abnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:54 <@joejaxx> next question? 16:55 <@Belutz> <fiddler59> Question: Something that is missing in most Multimedia dist is a complete alsa firmware install.....I always have to compile from source to get my Echo layla up and running....Will Ubuntustudio have a complete alsa firmware installed ?? 16:55 <@tsmithe> illu45, documentation (as that is basically what that amounts to) is an awful lot of work :) 16:55 -!- purpleleave [n=purple@58.207.152.111] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] 16:55 <@joejaxx> no not by default 16:56 -!- jgraeme [n=Graeme@dyn-62-56-52-228.dslaccess.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:56 <@joejaxx> but we are planning to have it in our repository 16:56 -!- jgraem1 [n=Graeme@dyn-62-56-52-228.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:56 <@Belutz> <popey> QUESTION: Will you also be able to just apt-get the meta package and you're done? like you can switch from ubuntu to kubuntu by getting kubuntu-desktop? 16:56 <@joejaxx> yes 16:56 <@joejaxx> you will be able to apt-get install ubunstudio-desktop 16:56 <@Belutz> <sletz> QUESION: any plan to package jackdmp (jack for multi-core machine) at some point? 16:56 <@joejaxx> but that will only have desktop 16:57 <@joejaxx> you will also have to choose which paths you wany 16:57 <@joejaxx> want* 16:57 <@joejaxx> and apt-get install accordingly 16:57 <@joejaxx> ie ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntunstudio-video etc 16:57 -!- radmen [n=radmen@add254.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Client Quit] 16:57 <@joejaxx> sletz: we have not actually discussed that before 16:58 <@joejaxx> but we can definitely look into discussing it for the gutsy release 16:58 <@joejaxx> next question we have 2 minutes left :P 16:58 -!- sb_ [n=sb@p548C40AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:58 * tsmithe thinks we'd need some kind of multicore detection infrastructure. and easy way would be to look in /proc, but i'm sure hal provides this too 16:58 <@Belutz> <bobmachine111> A little off subject. But do any of the included packages use vst plug ins (Windows cross-over office ish type question)? 16:58 <@joejaxx> btw if your question is not asnwered here i will be in #ubuntustudio to continue this after our time if up 16:59 <@joejaxx> bobmachine111: no they do not 16:59 <@Belutz> <octoberdan> QUESTION: Can you chose more then one path? 16:59 <@joejaxx> bobmachine111: the license of the vst-sdk prevents us from distributing it 16:59 <@joejaxx> octoberdan: yes you can 16:59 <@Belutz> <fiddler59> Question: Will you have Ardour rc2 or wait for Ardour2 final ?? 16:59 <@joejaxx> octoberdan: you can choose any combination 16:59 <@joejaxx> fiddler59: we have Ardour rc2 in our repository now 16:59 <@joejaxx> if Aroud 2 is released between this release 17:00 <@joejaxx> and the disc reroll we will probably include it 17:00 <@joejaxx> ardour2* 17:00 <@joejaxx> alright our time if up 17:00 <@Belutz> joejaxx, care for 1 other question? 17:00 * tsmithe would like to point out that we'll also be hosting alsa-firmwares in the repository 17:00 <@joejaxx> Thank you for coming by :) i will be in #ubuntustudio for anymore questions 17:01 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+o elkbuntu] by ChanServ 17:01 <@joejaxx> Belutz: well i guess it is up to the next person in line 17:01 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [-o joejaxx] by joejaxx 17:01 < joejaxx> but it can be asked in #ubuntustudio 17:01 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [-o tsmithe] by tsmithe 17:01 -!- rothfuss [n=rothfuss@c-67-188-235-151.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 17:01 < joejaxx> elkbuntu: thanks for letting us go over one minute :) }}} |
Ubuntu Open Week - Ubuntu Studio - Joseph Jackson IV - Sat, Apr 28, 2007
All Timestamps are GMT-4
15:52 < joejaxx> how many people are here for the ubuntu studio session? 15:52 * octoberdan raises hand 15:52 * txwikinger 15:52 * ditsch is here 15:52 * Sanne is here 15:52 * janjimusptfajar is here 15:52 * troy_s is here. 15:52 * txwikinger is here 15:52 * Belutz is here 15:52 * samgee_ too 15:52 * MikeDK here 15:52 < octoberdan> joejaxx: Some may be logging it to read it later 15:53 < joejaxx> ok we will wait a few it is not 20:00 exactly yet 15:53 * lotusleaf giggles 15:53 < joejaxx> octoberdan: ok 15:53 * radmen is also here ;] 15:54 < tsmithe> i'm here for the session 15:54 -!- robert____ [n=robert__@ACCFED4C.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 15:54 * tsmithe huggles joejaxx 15:54 < joejaxx> tsmithe: :P 15:54 < radmen> joejaxx: yeah it's 21:54 ;p 15:54 < troy_s> tsmithe: The 'UglyAssMofosConvention' is down the hall... 15:54 * Belutz begin to get sleepy >_< 15:54 < tsmithe> joejaxx, troy_s; can i learn more about ubuntustudio? 15:54 * janjimusptfajar 04:00 AM here 15:54 * lotusleaf gives coffee to Belutz 15:55 < Belutz> lotusleaf, thanks 15:55 < joejaxx> can someone relay questions once we start the q+a after the introduction of the project? 15:55 < lotusleaf> :) 15:55 * corevette is here also 15:55 < lotusleaf> Belutz: I added some habanero juice to it 15:55 * janjimusptfajar give nice girl to Belutz :D 15:55 < Belutz> janjimusptfajar, i only sleep for 4 hours yesterday 15:55 < Belutz> s/sleep/slept 15:56 -!- festival_gaim [n=ralfm@dslb-084-058-167-152.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:56 < Belutz> joejaxx, i'll try to do it 15:56 < joejaxx> Belutz: ok thanks 15:56 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+o tsmithe] by ChanServ 15:56 < janjimusptfajar> Belutz: woooww... what your secret to do that? 15:56 < Belutz> joejaxx, hopes it makes me awake 15:57 < joejaxx> :) 15:57 < joejaxx> ok i think it is time to start 15:57 -!- heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 15:57 < Belutz> janjimusptfajar, the ubuntu spirit keeps me awake :D 15:57 < isti> i think ubuntu is ok 15:57 -!- ranf [n=ralfm@dslb-084-058-167-152.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Success] 15:57 < joejaxx> Hello Everyone i am Joe Jaxx the technical lead for the Ubuntu Studio project 15:58 * janjimusptfajar looking my wife sleeping... 8| 15:58 < isti> linux is 10000000000 better than windows 15:58 < joejaxx> _MMA_ who is the project lead could not make it today and asked if i could lead the session in his stead 15:58 -!- ranf [n=ralfm@dslb-084-058-151-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 15:58 < joejaxx> leads* 15:58 < joejaxx> i will give a little background about the project 15:58 -!- illu45 [n=illusha@p81ds3xi.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 15:59 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+o jenda] by ChanServ 15:59 < joejaxx> Ubuntu Studio originally started as a concept from a wiki that was started 15:59 < joejaxx> to give users how tos on setting up an audio studio environment on their ubuntu workstations 16:00 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [-oo tsmithe jenda] by ChanServ 16:00 < joejaxx> a small group of people came together with this similar concept of actually creating a ubuntu flavour geared toward multimedia creation 16:01 -!- mofobofo [n=fuck@bb-87-80-127-196.ukonline.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] 16:01 < joejaxx> from what started as a chain mailing list, has created a full fledge Ubuntu "remix" geared towards giving ubuntu users 16:01 < joejaxx> the tools they need to expand their creativity when dealing with multimedia 16:02 < isti> what is the best game for Linux ? 16:02 < tsmithe> isti, not in here please :) 16:02 -!- stuart__ [n=stuart@bb-87-80-127-196.ukonline.co.uk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:02 < isti> ok 16:02 < isti> i am sorry 16:02 < joejaxx> In doing this we have created three "categories" that Ubuntu Studio aims at (or types of users) 16:03 < joejaxx> Audio, Graphical and Video 16:03 < joejaxx> we provide different tools that benefit the user the best in each category 16:04 -!- samgee [n=samgee@220.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:04 < joejaxx> for example in the audio category 16:04 < joejaxx> we provide ardour2 rosegarden jackd 16:04 < joejaxx> we also provide a lowlatency kernel (thanks BenC :) ) 16:04 < isti> what could i ask here =) 16:04 -!- bobmachine111 [n=bobmachi@ool-45736852.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:05 -!- cedrick [n=cedrick@243.155.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:05 < Belutz> isti, ask in #ubuntu-classroom-chat 16:06 < joejaxx> We also try and work closely with upstream 16:06 < isti> no i mean whats the tema 16:06 -!- ougachaka [n=yann@ARennes-352-1-23-165.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:06 < joejaxx> and this method works very well as people are happy to contribute to something that is benenficial to people 16:07 < joejaxx> concerning their software creation 16:07 < isti> oh good 16:07 < joejaxx> We are also about staying close to the Ubuntu community as much as possible and giving back to it 16:08 -!- ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has quit [""Testing irssi, once again""] 16:08 < isti> could you tell me what ubuntu studio is ? (sorry i do not now about that) 16:08 -!- ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:08 < joejaxx> We are comprised of a diverse group of individuals all working towards the same purpose 16:09 < Belutz> isti, please ask in #ubuntu-classroom-chat 16:09 < troy_s> ISTI -- READ THE WIKI -- Quiet during presentation. Thank you. 16:09 < joejaxx> our team list is located here 16:09 < joejaxx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TeamStructure 16:09 < isti> thanks 16:09 < joejaxx> The packages that we include in each of the categories of creativity are included here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList 16:10 -!- raindog [n=marty@pm840-01.dialip.mich.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:10 < isti> i read it comes this april 16:11 < tsmithe> isti, this is not the place. #ubuntu-classroom-chat 16:11 < tsmithe> you've been referred there many times now :) 16:11 < isti> oh i am so sorry 16:11 < joejaxx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio This is our wiki page in case you want to read up some more about that project 16:11 < isti> ok 16:11 < joejaxx> it is currently under heavy maintenance though 16:12 < joejaxx> So that is what the Ubuntu Studio Project is about 16:12 -!- davmor2 [n=davmor2@82-45-48-19.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:12 < joejaxx> expanding multimedia creativity through ubuntu :) 16:13 < dave_> I have been really excited about about ubuntustudio, could you tell me more about the development of the lowlatency rt kernel ?? 16:13 < corevette> dave_ ask in #ubuntu-classroom-chat 16:13 < Belutz> dave, please ask in #ubuntu-classroom-chat 16:13 < joejaxx> ok now the Q+A session 16:14 < Belutz> <awkorama> QUESTION: What NLE video programs do u provide? 16:14 < dave_> nobody is in ubuntu classroom chat !! 16:15 < jussi01> dave_: read the wiki please!! 16:15 < joejaxx> we current include kino 16:15 < joejaxx> as a non linear editor 16:16 < janjimusptfajar> where is ops? where i must write my question? here or in classroom-chat? 16:16 < Belutz> <janjimusptfajar> QUESTION: What minimum requirement to run this 16:17 -!- davmor2 [n=davmor2@82-45-48-19.cable.ubr04.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] 16:17 < joejaxx> janjimusptfajar: the minimum requirements would be the same as ubuntu 16:17 < joejaxx> but 16:17 -!- sletz [n=letz@vil69-4-82-228-206-231.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:17 < joejaxx> when you are doing multitrack audio recording 16:17 < joejaxx> and video rendering 16:17 < joejaxx> those require high requirements 16:18 < joejaxx> it really depends on what level of usage you plan with Ubuntu Studio 16:18 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+o PriceChild] by ChanServ 16:18 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+oo joejaxx Belutz] by PriceChild 16:18 <@Belutz> <lotusleaf> QUESTION: Does Ubuntu Studio provide an easy way for the user to enable MIDI without digging through documentation? If not, will it? 16:18 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+m] by PriceChild 16:18 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+o tsmithe] by ChanServ 16:19 <@tsmithe> lotusleaf, as i said in -chat (and i'd like to reiterate here, joejaxx ;) ): some midi features by default require a hardware synthesizer, or the installation of timidity and configuration of the daemon (/etc/default/timidity) 16:19 <@tsmithe> i'd be unsure as to why any hardware sequencers should not just work if alsa provides support 16:20 <@joejaxx> yes 16:20 <@Belutz> <janjimusptfajar> QUESTION: WHEN it will released? 16:20 <@joejaxx> janjimusptfajar: we get this question alot 16:21 <@joejaxx> the Ubuntu Studio release has been delayed and we have not set a release date yet pending this circumstances that have come up 16:21 -!- seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:21 -!- deniz_ogut [n=chatzill@81.215.99.86] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:21 -!- seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] 16:22 <@joejaxx> it will be released when ready :) 16:22 <@joejaxx> it will be worth the wait 16:22 <@joejaxx> i assure you 16:23 <@joejaxx> even with the discs 16:23 <@joejaxx> at the end of the installation 16:23 <@joejaxx> you will be able to choose "your path" or the categories that you want installed 16:23 <@joejaxx> either one a combination or all (audio, graphical, video) 16:24 <@joejaxx> :) 16:24 <@Belutz> <dave_> I have been really excited about about ubuntustudio, could you tell me more about the development of the lowlatency rt kernel ?? 16:25 <@joejaxx> yes right now we have a lowlatency kernel which has an adjusted timer 16:25 <@joejaxx> and some other tweaks 16:25 <@joejaxx> (thanks again BenC ) 16:25 <@Belutz> <janjimusptfajar> QUESTION: how about license? 16:26 <@joejaxx> we will also be trying to get a full RT in but that will happen after the release 16:26 <@joejaxx> we will release the discs with the lowlatency kernel 16:26 <@joejaxx> and re roll the discs with the RT one after some testing is done on it 16:27 <@joejaxx> for feisty that is :) 16:27 -!- sletz [n=letz@vil69-4-82-228-206-231.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] 16:27 -!- sletz [n=letz@vil69-4-82-228-206-231.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:27 <@joejaxx> Gutsy will have a RT kernel 16:28 <@tsmithe> thanks BenC :P 16:28 <@joejaxx> :) 16:28 <@Belutz> <janjimusptfajar> QUESTION: how about license? 16:29 <@joejaxx> we use the Ubuntu lowlatency kernel :P 16:29 <@joejaxx> so it is licensed as Ubuntu has 16:29 <@tsmithe> everything we take from ubuntu has the same licence 16:29 <@joejaxx> yeap 16:30 <@tsmithe> each of our own packages has its own licence 16:30 -!- dave_ [n=fiddler5@h234.133.29.71.ip.alltel.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:30 <@tsmithe> and you should look into that through the normal channels 16:30 <@joejaxx> ok next question as there is quite a long queue 16:30 <@Belutz> <Daviey> QUESTION: What repo are you trying to get your stuff into? Universe or your own? 16:30 <@joejaxx> regarding the repository 16:31 -!- sb_ [n=sb@p548C40AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:31 <@joejaxx> we are trying (going back to our being involved in the ubuntu community) to get everything into universe 16:31 <@joejaxx> only thing that are essential and cannot go into universe not because of licensing but because of packaging issues will go into our repository 16:32 -!- fiddler59 [n=chatzill@h234.133.29.71.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:32 <@Belutz> <ditsch> QUESTION: Does the studio support restricted formats such as mp3 by default? 16:32 <@joejaxx> no we do not include anything that ubuntu does regarding restricted formats 16:32 <@tsmithe> we use the same infrastructure as ubuntu to handle codecs :) 16:32 <@joejaxx> does not* 16:32 <@joejaxx> yes 16:32 <@joejaxx> :) 16:33 <@Belutz> <Sanne> QUESTION: will Ubuntu Studio support the same architectures as the main repositories (especially amd64)? 16:33 <@tsmithe> ditsch, (so easy-codec-installation should still apply where it does in ubuntu feisty) 16:33 <@joejaxx> right now we are supporting only i386 but do not fear 16:33 <@joejaxx> we are heavy looking into amd64 16:33 <@joejaxx> heavily* 16:33 <@joejaxx> since alot of people use those as audio workstations 16:33 <@joejaxx> and video as well 16:34 -!- deniz_ogut [n=chatzill@81.215.99.86] has quit [Client Quit] 16:34 <@Belutz> <janjimusptfajar> QUESTION: where is i can find the screenshot? the link in the website is not work 16:34 -!- raindo2 [n=marty@pm725-28.dialip.mich.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:35 <@joejaxx> janjimusptfajar: i do not think we have released a full screenshot to my knowledge 16:35 <@joejaxx> i might be mistaken 16:35 <@joejaxx> fullscreen screenshot* that is 16:35 <@tsmithe> if joejaxx is, then the website is undergoing some changes, and this may have disrupted it 16:35 <@tsmithe> *minor changes 16:35 -!- lotusleaf [n=raindrop@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has left #uBUNtu-classROOM [] 16:35 <@joejaxx> yes 16:36 <@Belutz> <nothlit> QUESTION: kino? What about cinelerra? 16:36 -!- neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44138.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Client Quit] 16:36 <@joejaxx> ok here we go :) 16:36 <@tsmithe> finally! :P 16:36 <@joejaxx> We are looking heavily into Cinelerra and into packaging it 16:36 <@joejaxx> there are a couple of problems though 16:36 -!- shiyee [n=Shiyee@0x535854b3.abnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] 16:37 <@joejaxx> the main one is ALOT of the source does not state the license 16:37 <@tsmithe> couple!! 16:37 <@joejaxx> tsmithe: :P 16:37 <@joejaxx> we need to go through the source manually 16:37 <@joejaxx> and confirm the source for each file 16:37 <@joejaxx> bah 16:37 <@joejaxx> license* 16:37 <@joejaxx> confirm the license* 16:37 <@joejaxx> this really needs to be a community effort 16:38 <@tsmithe> wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/CinelerraReview is our method, and upstream is also catching on to the importance 16:38 <@joejaxx> and we would like people to help 16:38 <@Belutz> <BHSPitMonkey> QUESTION: Besides simply shipping with a few relevant media programs, what does Ubuntu Studio as a project really entail? 16:38 <@joejaxx> another issue is Sources being licensed wrongly 16:38 <@Belutz> (oops too fast) 16:38 <@joejaxx> Security updates is an issue as well 16:39 <@joejaxx> as Cinelerra uses a modified version of fmpeg 16:39 <@joejaxx> ffmpeg* 16:39 <@tsmithe> amongst other libraries 16:39 <@tsmithe> (quicktime etc etc) 16:39 <@joejaxx> and using the ubuntu ones would probably hinder some of the functionality 16:39 -!- rothfuss [n=rothfuss@c-67-188-235-151.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:39 <@joejaxx> so we need to look more into that issue 16:40 <@tsmithe> help out! 16:40 <@joejaxx> we would really like the community to help us AND upstream with CinelerraCV 16:40 <@joejaxx> it would really make a differnece 16:40 <@joejaxx> difference* 16:40 * joejaxx cannot type today 16:40 <@tsmithe> upstream need motivation, really 16:41 <@joejaxx> yes 16:41 <@tsmithe> pressure is a good motivator :P 16:41 -!- eRazor [n=madhu@59.92.141.129] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:41 <@joejaxx> people helping == upstream motivation :) 16:42 <@tsmithe> i suggest if you want to help out, you come chat in #ubuntustudio, and read the spec 16:42 <@joejaxx> ok next question 16:42 <@Belutz> <BHSPitMonkey> QUESTION: Besides simply shipping with a few relevant media programs, what does Ubuntu Studio as a project really entail? 16:43 <@joejaxx> besides having everything in a nice package 16:43 -!- tsmithe changed the topic of #ubuntu-classroom to: "Welcome to the Ubuntu Open Week || SCHEDULE: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek - SCHEDULE CHANGES, PLEASE SEE THE TIMETABLE || RULES: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Rules Please respect them || LOGS: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs || Ask questions and chat in #ubuntu-classroom-chat, "QUESTION: <insert question here> | CURRENT SESSION: UbuntuStudio - joejaxx 16:43 <@joejaxx> Ubuntu Studio is a community 16:43 <@joejaxx> a community of those who share creavitive and artistic abilities and love ubuntu at the same time 16:44 <@joejaxx> we have an irc channel which is #ubuntustudio 16:44 <@joejaxx> and we will soon have a ubuntu studio section on the ubuntu forums 16:44 <@joejaxx> we are really about ubuntu and community that is our main focus 16:44 <@joejaxx> :) 16:44 <@tsmithe> and we will be working hard to make multimedia production on ubuntu rock! 16:44 <@joejaxx> yes 16:45 <@joejaxx> most definitely 16:45 <@tsmithe> (and as ubuntu develops, we will rocket after :D) 16:45 <@joejaxx> :) 16:45 <@joejaxx> next question 16:45 -!- awk_ [i=awk@chello085216152082.chello.sk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:45 -!- awk [i=awk@chello085216152082.chello.sk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:45 <@Belutz> <Sanne> QUESTION: will there be restricted drivers for the Ubuntu Studio Kernel? 16:45 <@tsmithe> yes 16:45 <@Belutz> <Daviey> QUESTION: Are the post-install options part of ubiquity or a separate app? 16:45 <@joejaxx> ok 16:45 <@joejaxx> about that 16:46 <@joejaxx> we will only be shipping text installer cds 16:46 <@joejaxx> the reason being there is not much to "try out" if there were a livecd 16:46 <@joejaxx> as most stuff is backend 16:46 <@joejaxx> (lowlatency kernel etc) 16:47 <@tsmithe> ie it's best run from the hd, and we don't want to roll hundreds of test cds, and separate out audio/video/graphics tasks etc etc 16:47 <@joejaxx> and i do not think you could do an Audio session or video editting on a livecd (well you could but it would be a hassle: ie mounting a partition/external hard drive) 16:47 <@joejaxx> it would not be wise to do that off a livecd that is 16:48 <@joejaxx> the options would be right at the end of the text installer 16:48 <@joejaxx> right after it installed the base 16:48 <@joejaxx> :) 16:48 <@joejaxx> next question 16:48 <@Belutz> <Sanne> QUESTION: will it be possible to install some apps from Ubuntu Studio into standard *buntu? 16:48 <@joejaxx> yes 16:48 -!- LjL [n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl] has quit [Client Quit] 16:48 -!- eRazor [n=madhu@59.92.141.129] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] 16:48 <@joejaxx> we utilize the ubuntu repository for 96% of everything 16:49 <@Belutz> <fiddler59> when are the ubuntustudio meta pkgs to be updated in the repos ?? 16:49 <@tsmithe> that other 4% of all the packages is drawn from the ether 16:49 <@joejaxx> the other 4% is stuff that could not be included in universe because of freeze policies 16:49 <@joejaxx> or packaging issues 16:49 <@joejaxx> fiddler59: yes i will be submitting a bug update for them soon 16:49 -!- raindog [n=marty@pm840-01.dialip.mich.net] has quit [No route to host] 16:50 <@Belutz> <bobmachine111> QUESTION: What about support? I know its based off of Feisty, but I tried DeMude a while back and I couldnt update without destroying a vast array of packages. Basically what I was told by DeMude support was, I had to use what DeMude came with. How will this compare to that situation? 16:50 <@joejaxx> we will be trusting in ourselves and the ubuntu studio community for support 16:50 <@joejaxx> as we cannot ourselves answer a 1000 questions 16:51 <@joejaxx> but if the ubuntu studio community helps 16:51 <@joejaxx> we can all share knowledge and answer questions 16:51 -!- janjimusptfajar [n=ubuntu@203.84.142.95] has quit [Client Quit] 16:51 <@joejaxx> #ubuntustudio will be for support questions after release (not yet though) 16:51 <@joejaxx> and we will have the ubuntu studio section on the forums :) 16:52 <@joejaxx> we will try and answer ubuntu studio related questions according 16:52 <@joejaxx> :) 16:52 <@joejaxx> next question? 16:52 <@Belutz> <octoberdan> QUESTION: What will be the default window manager? 16:52 <@joejaxx> we use Gnome 16:53 <@Belutz> <cedrick> what version of alsa you incorpore ? 16:53 <@joejaxx> 1.0.13 16:53 <@Belutz> <illu45> QUESTION: Do you plan on having tutorials/lectures for people interested in learning how to use some of the programs you plan to include in UbuntuStudio 16:54 -!- ranf [n=ralfm@dslb-084-058-151-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:54 <@joejaxx> that has been discussed but only lightly 16:54 <@joejaxx> we will probably be discussing more about that in the future within the team 16:54 -!- shiyee [n=Shiyee@0x535854b3.abnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:54 <@joejaxx> next question? 16:55 <@Belutz> <fiddler59> Question: Something that is missing in most Multimedia dist is a complete alsa firmware install.....I always have to compile from source to get my Echo layla up and running....Will Ubuntustudio have a complete alsa firmware installed ?? 16:55 <@tsmithe> illu45, documentation (as that is basically what that amounts to) is an awful lot of work :) 16:55 -!- purpleleave [n=purple@58.207.152.111] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] 16:55 <@joejaxx> no not by default 16:56 -!- jgraeme [n=Graeme@dyn-62-56-52-228.dslaccess.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:56 <@joejaxx> but we are planning to have it in our repository 16:56 -!- jgraem1 [n=Graeme@dyn-62-56-52-228.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom 16:56 <@Belutz> <popey> QUESTION: Will you also be able to just apt-get the meta package and you're done? like you can switch from ubuntu to kubuntu by getting kubuntu-desktop? 16:56 <@joejaxx> yes 16:56 <@joejaxx> you will be able to apt-get install ubunstudio-desktop 16:56 <@Belutz> <sletz> QUESION: any plan to package jackdmp (jack for multi-core machine) at some point? 16:56 <@joejaxx> but that will only have desktop 16:57 <@joejaxx> you will also have to choose which paths you wany 16:57 <@joejaxx> want* 16:57 <@joejaxx> and apt-get install accordingly 16:57 <@joejaxx> ie ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntunstudio-video etc 16:57 -!- radmen [n=radmen@add254.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Client Quit] 16:57 <@joejaxx> sletz: we have not actually discussed that before 16:58 <@joejaxx> but we can definitely look into discussing it for the gutsy release 16:58 <@joejaxx> next question we have 2 minutes left :P 16:58 -!- sb_ [n=sb@p548C40AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:58 * tsmithe thinks we'd need some kind of multicore detection infrastructure. and easy way would be to look in /proc, but i'm sure hal provides this too 16:58 <@Belutz> <bobmachine111> A little off subject. But do any of the included packages use vst plug ins (Windows cross-over office ish type question)? 16:58 <@joejaxx> btw if your question is not asnwered here i will be in #ubuntustudio to continue this after our time if up 16:59 <@joejaxx> bobmachine111: no they do not 16:59 <@Belutz> <octoberdan> QUESTION: Can you chose more then one path? 16:59 <@joejaxx> bobmachine111: the license of the vst-sdk prevents us from distributing it 16:59 <@joejaxx> octoberdan: yes you can 16:59 <@Belutz> <fiddler59> Question: Will you have Ardour rc2 or wait for Ardour2 final ?? 16:59 <@joejaxx> octoberdan: you can choose any combination 16:59 <@joejaxx> fiddler59: we have Ardour rc2 in our repository now 16:59 <@joejaxx> if Aroud 2 is released between this release 17:00 <@joejaxx> and the disc reroll we will probably include it 17:00 <@joejaxx> ardour2* 17:00 <@joejaxx> alright our time if up 17:00 <@Belutz> joejaxx, care for 1 other question? 17:00 * tsmithe would like to point out that we'll also be hosting alsa-firmwares in the repository 17:00 <@joejaxx> Thank you for coming by :) i will be in #ubuntustudio for anymore questions 17:01 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+o elkbuntu] by ChanServ 17:01 <@joejaxx> Belutz: well i guess it is up to the next person in line 17:01 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [-o joejaxx] by joejaxx 17:01 < joejaxx> but it can be asked in #ubuntustudio 17:01 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [-o tsmithe] by tsmithe 17:01 -!- rothfuss [n=rothfuss@c-67-188-235-151.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 17:01 < joejaxx> elkbuntu: thanks for letting us go over one minute :)
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