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Ubuntu Open Week - Ubuntu Training Team - Billy Cina - Thu, Oct 25, 2007
15:16 < billycin1> hi folks 15:16 < billycin1> sorry i am late 15:16 <@popey> hi 15:16 < billycin1> needs to file a bug for gutsy 15:16 < billycin1> network manager issues 15:17 < billycin1> 3 of us in the office 15:17 < Hobbsee> billycin1: /msg nickserv ghost billycina <yourfreenodep/w> 15:17 < Hobbsee> then you can have your nick back. 15:17 < billycin1> so 15:17 < billycin1> few topics i wanted to cover today 15:18 -!- mode/#ubuntu-classroom [+v billycin1] by popey 15:18 <+billycin1> ok - we'll live with this right now 15:18 * billycin1 prays the network will not cut out again 15:18 <+billycin1> so: 15:19 <+billycin1> 1. wanted to give an update on what we have been doing in the training project so far 15:19 <+billycin1> 2. timelines - when you can see something happening 15:19 <+billycin1> 3.How you can get involved 15:19 <+billycin1> 4. what will happen next 15:19 <+billycin1> btw - this is my first open week session 15:20 <+billycin1> so... be patient ;) 15:20 <+billycin1> alright 15:20 <+billycin1> so as some of you will know, canonical started to initiate community involvemet with the training projects in august 15:21 < SvZ> @now 15:21 < ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: October 25 2007, 15:13:44 - Next meeting: Kernel Team in 5 days 15:21 <+billycin1> the plan was, and still is to produce a community based / involved desktop course 15:21 <+billycin1> which will then be freely available for all to use 15:21 <+billycin1> since august a bunch us have done * a lot * of work 15:22 <+billycin1> and much sweat, blood and tears has been exchanged 15:22 <+billycin1> well, almost 15:22 <+billycin1> the process is: 15:22 <+billycin1> We agreed on the TOC - over 60 people provided input to that 15:23 <+billycin1> we then have bi-weekly meetings to discuss progress of the project and any issues 15:23 <+billycin1> there are 11 sections 15:23 <+billycin1> details of which you can find: 15:23 <+billycin1> here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training 15:24 <+billycin1> basically: our indian content writer write the base 15:24 <+billycin1> we then refine, chop, edit, enhance 15:24 <+billycin1> etc 15:24 <+billycin1> this has been a tough process - for a number of reasons 15:24 <+billycin1> but mainly because of use of bzr and docbook 15:24 <+billycin1> but we're getting there 15:25 <+billycin1> i can elaborate but will spare the details for now 15:25 <+billycin1> so we are now at the stage where 15:25 <+billycin1> next week we host a 2-day pilot in sri lanka 15:25 <+billycin1> this will run as a real life course where we check the material content, 15:25 <+billycin1> ensure thatthe instructor is focusing on the right sections 15:26 <+billycin1> time each section 15:26 <+billycin1> and basically ensure that our objectives are met 15:26 <+billycin1> not sure how many of you know but 15:26 <+billycin1> the whole of the sri lanka government is deploying ubuntu :) 15:26 <+billycin1> so 15:26 <+billycin1> 1. big \o/ 15:27 <+billycin1> 2. we would anyway need to train them, so what we are doing is training the instructors, who will then need to go and train the office workers 15:27 <+billycin1> so i will be going there 15:27 <+billycin1> and our indian training partner will be running the 2 days 15:28 <+billycin1> if all goes according to plan, this is what will happen next: 15:28 <+billycin1> 1. I survive 2 days of flights and 2 days in sri lanka and make it from there to boston 15:29 <+billycin1> 2. Start drafting the corrections / amendments that will need to happen 15:29 <+billycin1> if it is anything like the system builder course, this should not take longer than 2 weeks 15:29 * billycin1 keeps fingers crossed 15:30 <+billycin1> 3. i will then send the files to Drichardson who has kindly volunteered to make the material 'look pretty' 15:30 <+billycin1> 4. Once this is done - and I am aiming for mid - end nov at the latest 15:31 <+billycin1> IT WILL BE RELEASED TO THE WIKI 15:31 <+billycin1> the reason it is written in docbook is so that it can be printed off in courseware style 15:31 <+billycin1> so you guys (and whoever) can use it freely 15:32 <+billycin1> how can you get involved from here: 15:32 <+billycin1> well, many ways and feel free to add: 15:32 <+billycin1> 1. Please join our bi-weekly meetings 15:33 <+billycin1> the next one will take place in3 weeks from today (as opposed to 2 weeks as i am in boston) 15:33 <+billycin1> we discuss how to improve the material and new elements required 15:33 <+billycin1> or anything that has been missed 15:33 <+billycin1> 2. Get translating - the more people who can access this in more languages - the better 15:34 <+billycin1> 3. make it your own 15:34 <+billycin1> when we issued the TOC for review, there were many many suggestions 15:34 <+billycin1> as this is intended for newcomers, we had to KIS 15:35 <+billycin1> but there is no reason why you guys can not elaborate and make material available on features you feel need it 15:35 <+billycin1> you will have the framework to make this more simple 15:36 <+billycin1> the minute we know what will be involved in hardy, we will also need to make updates for that 15:37 <+billycin1> i think you will all agree that this is a great way to reach out to more ubuntu newbies 15:37 <+billycin1> if the Canonical / community approach works, this course will be the first in the series of such initiatives 15:38 <+billycin1> ok - i am going to move over to the chat section so that i can answer some questions 15:38 <@popey> < michaelramm> QUESTION: Is there a place for a Linux/Ubuntu newbie on the training team? 15:38 <+billycin1> popey: absolutely 15:38 <+billycin1> move tothe chat room 15:39 <@popey> billycin1: we tend to stay here 15:39 <@popey> I'll paste your questions in here 15:39 <@popey> sorry / their/ questions in here 15:39 <+billycin1> so i should stay here? 15:39 <@popey> yus 15:39 <+billycin1> cool 15:39 <+billycin1> ok, i'm back 15:39 <@popey> :) 15:39 <+billycin1> so: newbies - hugely in demand 15:39 <@popey> (just say "next" when you want the next question) 15:40 <+billycin1> this course is designed for newbies, so those of us who have been using it for a while take some things for granted 15:40 <+billycin1> if you can be part of the material reviewing or 15:40 <+billycin1> just tell us what you feel is unclear and problematic to new users - that would be great 15:40 <+billycin1> next please 15:40 <@popey> < dinda> QUESTION: Will the materials be updated for each release? or just LTS? 15:41 < michaelramm> Well, in that case....michaelramm reporting for duty! 15:41 <+billycin1> michaelramm: fabulous :) 15:41 <+billycin1> dinda: for every release 15:42 <+billycin1> the sys admin course is updated majorly got LTS but we still provide updates with every release 15:42 <+billycin1> critical updates 15:42 <+billycin1> next pls 15:42 <@popey> < FayZee> QUESTION: You say the instructor-led material will be in docbook so as to be printed off. What format will the e-learning course take? Moodle? 15:42 <+billycin1> yes - moodle 15:42 <+billycin1> the elearning course will be a paid for service 15:42 <+billycin1> next pl 15:43 <@popey> < kotfic> QUESTION: you mentioned training trainers, are there any resources for people who need to train trainers? 15:43 <+billycin1> so - there will also be an instructor guide available 15:43 <+billycin1> which is hugely self explanatory 15:44 <+billycin1> other than that - i would rely on people who have trained desktop before. 15:44 <+billycin1> .... even MS 15:44 <+billycin1> next pls 15:44 <@popey> < dinda> QUESTION: How is the Partner Program working out? Can you tell the room a bit about that process? 15:44 <+billycin1> sure 15:44 <+billycin1> so right now we have about 15 key countries in which we are actively looking for partner 15:44 <+billycin1> s 15:45 <+billycin1> we have fulfilled 8 of those countries 15:45 <+billycin1> in advanced process with US and UK 15:45 <+billycin1> and have another 5 15:45 < Gareth> topic 15:45 < Gareth> erm 15:45 <+billycin1> we are limiting the number of partners in each country / region 15:46 <+billycin1> so that the partners who have signed up, can enjoy the fruits of their labour 15:46 <+billycin1> students are not queueing around the block right now 15:46 <+billycin1> and while we expect this to change with increase in corporate and government deployment 15:46 <+billycin1> this does take time and effort from Canonical and the partners 15:47 <+billycin1> so - anybody can get a hold of the desktop course and start teaching it 15:47 <+billycin1> but 15:47 <+billycin1> only authorised partners get the official partner status 15:47 <+billycin1> so to speak 15:47 <+billycin1> dinda: does that answer? 15:47 < dinda> sounds great 15:47 <+billycin1> cool 15:47 <+billycin1> next pls 15:47 <@popey> < dgjones> QUESTION: In Europe there is the ECDL (European Computer Driving Licence) which gives basic IT training with a Europe wide recognised qualification, but its Microsoft based, will the training thats being developed offer something similar in terms of a qualification & levels of training 15:48 <+billycin1> dgjones: good question 15:48 <+billycin1> so instead of creating our own, we are thinking of partnering with ECDL 15:48 <+billycin1> they do have a linux interest which we are exploring 15:49 <+billycin1> also for the international version, not just european 15:49 <+billycin1> there are so many certifications out there - we want to make it really easy for people 15:49 <+billycin1> next pls 15:49 <@popey> < michaelramm> QUESTION: What resources will be provided so that LoCo's can take the training to the community? 15:49 <+billycin1> take the training to the community? 15:49 <+billycin1> elaborate please 15:50 < michaelramm> offer training sessions to the local community, not ubuntu community 15:50 <+billycin1> michaelramm: so, the material is there for you to use but I don't see a scenario right now where we fund such training 15:50 <+billycin1> if that is what you mean? 15:51 <+billycin1> next pls 15:51 < michaelramm> so the instuctor-led class, would there be handouts, a book for reference, etc. 15:52 <+billycin1> michaelramm: so - print will not be provided BUT 15:52 <+billycin1> what we will be doing is offering printed versions in book format which can be ordered online 15:52 <+billycin1> I doubt this will suit the purpose though as it will be a paid for service 15:52 <+billycin1> i am looking att a coupld of options for this 15:53 <+billycin1> next pls 15:53 <@popey> < kotfic> QUESTION: what are the usual turn around times on doc translation for somting like French? 15:53 <+billycin1> kotfic: no idea - never done it but 15:54 <+billycin1> what i can tell you is that it is taking a full time translator 6 weeks to translate from english to russian 15:54 <+billycin1> 400 sides of another corse we have 15:54 <+billycin1> course 15:54 <+billycin1> so - to do it well, takes time 15:54 <+billycin1> next ple 15:54 <+billycin1> s 15:54 < Mnabil> lol 15:54 <@popey> < FayZee> QUESTION: I'm interested in the paid-for elearning course in Moodle. Can you tell something about it please? 15:54 <+billycin1> Fayzee: so 15:55 <+billycin1> it will have the same TOC and structure as the instructor led 15:55 <+billycin1> planned for release in late Nov. / early dec 15:55 <+billycin1> anticipated price is $100 for a 4 hour stint 15:55 <+billycin1> access will be available for 6 months 15:55 <+billycin1> it iwll be very interactive 15:56 <+billycin1> with simulations, voice overs etc 15:56 <+billycin1> anything else you would like to know? 15:56 < Fay> Sounds cool :-) Thanks 15:56 <+billycin1> next pls 15:56 < Fay> Is there a link? 15:56 <+billycin1> not yet 15:56 <+billycin1> the child is not born 15:56 <+billycin1> ;) 15:56 <@popey> < popey> QUESTION: "partner status", does that mean that non-partners can't use the trademarked Ubuntu logo in their marketing, or is it slightly less insidious than that :S? 15:57 <+billycin1> so they can not use the ubuntu training partner logo 15:57 <+billycin1> if you can usually use the 'regular' ubuntu logo - then you can continue to do so 15:57 <@popey> thats the only difference? 15:58 <+billycin1> popey: yes, you are not stamped as an authorise training center. can you use the logo now? 15:58 <+billycin1> the regular ubuntu i mean 15:58 <@popey> as an ubuntu member you can on business cards, yes 15:58 <@popey> maybe elsewhere too 15:59 <@popey> but I guess you will have a special logo "Training partner" type thing 15:59 <@popey> ok that answers my question, thanks :) 15:59 <+billycin1> if you imply that you are a professional working on canonical's behalf, then no 15:59 <@popey> right 15:59 <+billycin1> yes we do 15:59 <+billycin1> np 15:59 <+billycin1> next pls 15:59 <@popey> < bonii> QUESTION: How can the local LUGs and GLUGs which try to provide training to the newcomers be integrated into the LOCOs so that the reach can be increased? 16:00 <+billycin1> bonii: huge question 16:00 <+billycin1> which i will gladly flick onto the loco team council 16:00 <@popey> there isnt a loco team council (yet) 16:00 <+billycin1> there is one of those now - i think? 16:00 <@popey> as I understand it 16:00 <@popey> flick it to jono :) 16:00 <+billycin1> right - i think one is in the forming and that would be a good place to start 16:01 <+billycin1> i think that activity should absolutely be established 16:01 <+billycin1> next pls 16:01 < michaelramm> All bucks stop at the desk of Jono Bacon! 16:01 <@popey> < moriancu1er> QUESTION: Where are these materials available? 16:01 <@popey> (put that in so you can plug in the wiki and mailing list) 16:01 <+billycin1> they will be loaded onto the wiki 16:01 <+billycin1> thanks popey 16:02 <+billycin1> I will announce the launch on the training mailing list which popey has kindly reminded me to advertise ;) 16:02 <+billycin1> 2 mailing lists: ubuntu-training-community 16:02 <@popey> http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-training-community 16:02 <+billycin1> which receives all the dupdates on what's going on 16:03 <+billycin1> and one for training support related queries 16:03 <@popey> http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-training-support 16:03 <+billycin1> ie when students or people about to take the ubuntu 199 exams can ask questions 16:03 <+billycin1> thanks popey 16:03 <@popey> np 16:03 <+billycin1> nice double act 16:04 <+billycin1> ok - we have 5 mins before the next meeting, after that i am happy to move to #ubuntu-training 16:04 <@popey> < dinda> QUESTION: So currently you can only become an authorised Instructor by working for an authorised partner, correct? 16:04 <+billycin1> correct 16:04 <+billycin1> next pls 16:04 <@popey> thats your lot 16:05 <+billycin1> oh and 16:05 <@popey> < dinda> QUESTION: What about any partnerships with Universities? 16:05 <+billycin1> #ubuntu-training - please join us, we do tend to hang out there daily and we sometimes get lonely.... 16:05 <+billycin1> dinda: so that would be the ubuntu academy 16:05 < Divilinux> hy all 16:05 <+billycin1> which has been delayed 16:05 <+billycin1> until 2008 16:06 <+billycin1> popey: that all? 16:06 <@popey> YES 16:06 <@popey> er 16:06 <@popey> yes 16:06 <+billycin1> :) 16:06 < dinda> Great session, Billy! 16:06 <+billycin1> thanks for your time all 16:06 <@popey> thanks billycin1 16:06 < michaelramm> Thanks Billy! 16:06 < tbrminsanity> tks 16:06 <+billycin1> thanks all :) 16:06 <+billycin1> i am moving to #ubuntu-training
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