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   4 Aug 01 19:45:25 ---             Topic for #ubuntu-missouri is Welcome to the Ubuntu Misouri LoCo Team Room!  Next Meeting TONIGHT at 8:30pm CDT.
   5 Aug 01 19:45:25 ---             Topic for #ubuntu-missouri set by jbrouhard at Wed Aug  1 17:42:26 2007
   6 Aug 01 20:20:47 <spr0k3t>       oi
   7 Aug 01 20:25:24 <PenguinistaKC> oi?
   8 Aug 01 20:25:59 <spr0k3t>       yeah, it's a way to say... "I think I'm awake"
   9 Aug 01 20:26:29 <PenguinistaKC> Wakefullness is highly overrated.
  10 Aug 01 20:26:37 <PenguinistaKC> I believe strongly in the power of sleep.
  11 Aug 01 20:27:08 <PenguinistaKC> Joe will probably not be online until 9pm at the earliest.
  12 Aug 01 20:27:21 <PenguinistaKC> I will be right back, need to tuck in Noah
  13 Aug 01 20:27:33 <spr0k3t>       k, going to get the log figured out.
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  15 Aug 01 20:27:58 <nilihanth>     just on time! :D
  16 Aug 01 20:28:03 <spr0k3t>       hahahah
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  19 Aug 01 20:31:30 <PenguinistaKC> It's 8:30 CT, I'm calling the meeting to order. This is Matthew Copple (PenguinistaKC), the MIssouri Team Contact.
  20 Aug 01 20:31:52 <PenguinistaKC> If the other participants would identify themselves please, by nick and/or name
  21 Aug 01 20:32:55 <PenguinistaKC> Sorry, I should have said "WOULD" the other participants please identify themselves by nick and/or name
  22 Aug 01 20:33:15 <spr0k3t>       let's see, I recognize Zelut from the USTeams channel as one of the mentors...
  23 Aug 01 20:33:30 <spr0k3t>       ditto with vorian and johnc4510
  24 Aug 01 20:34:01 <spr0k3t>       so right now it's nilihanth, PenguinistaKC, and I that are currently live.
  25 Aug 01 20:34:07 <nilihanth>     :)
  26 Aug 01 20:34:32 <johnc4510>     :)
  27 Aug 01 20:34:38 <PenguinistaKC> OK, first order of business. Approval of minutes of 2007/7/18. Are there any objections or suggested changes?
  28 Aug 01 20:35:27 <spr0k3t>       the only changes I see that need to be made are the inclusion of the IRC log... however, I need to get the log I created and peice it out.
  29 Aug 01 20:35:34 <PenguinistaKC> I would like to note that since we did not get a complete log of that evening, snippets won't be available. I am logging this chat, however, so we'll have it for next week.
  30 Aug 01 20:35:49 <PenguinistaKC> Or better yet, spr0k3t will have it. :)
  31 Aug 01 20:35:52 <spr0k3t>       sweet, best to have a backup as well.
  32 Aug 01 20:36:30 <nilihanth>     as long as i'm in here its being logged here too
  33 Aug 01 20:36:41 <spr0k3t>       8^)
  34 Aug 01 20:36:56 <nilihanth>     dataraper might be along sometime on his phone
  35 Aug 01 20:37:03 <nilihanth>     its his kid's birthday today
  36 Aug 01 20:37:20 <PenguinistaKC> OK, so other than the understanding that logs aren't available for the 18th, are there any other substantive changes to be made?
  37 Aug 01 20:37:39 <PenguinistaKC> nihilanth: cool.
  38 Aug 01 20:38:28 <PenguinistaKC> For the moment, we'll assume that the lack of response means there are no changes. Unless objection is made by the end of the meeting tonight, the minutes will stand approved.
  39 Aug 01 20:38:33 <spr0k3t>       I believe everything we have gone over from the previous meeting has been implemented so far
  40 Aug 01 20:38:51 <PenguinistaKC> Next on the list, "Documentation review and standards."
  41 Aug 01 20:38:54 <spr0k3t>       pretty good from the first official meeting...
  42 Aug 01 20:39:29 <PenguinistaKC> spr0k3t, you want to lead on this? Are you just referring to the methods by which we make and record decisions, or is there something else?
  43 Aug 01 20:39:43 <spr0k3t>       The documentation standards are something that I'm working on in the Wiki... http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MissouriTeam/Projects/Documentation
  44 Aug 01 20:41:02 <spr0k3t>       The key here is to keep the documentation for the Wiki in a structured form and inclusive of the standards for ubuntu wikis... I'm still researching this area as much as I can to make sure we don't step beyond any boundries already set.
  45 Aug 01 20:41:38 <PenguinistaKC> At the risk of sounding legalistic, can you define what we mean by documentation?
  46 Aug 01 20:42:14 <spr0k3t>       One goal I have for the team is to work on the enhanced loco web.  this will be the official team pages as an extension of the information found on the Wiki
  47 Aug 01 20:42:47 <spr0k3t>       Documentation consists of information found on the MissouriTeam wiki pages and eventually the Enhanced LoCo
  48 Aug 01 20:43:17 <PenguinistaKC> So we're talking administrivia (how the team works, project updates, etc.) as well as how-tos and such?
  49 Aug 01 20:43:21 <spr0k3t>       Everyone is free to add/edit the pages to create a better source of documentation.
  50 Aug 01 20:43:26 <spr0k3t>       exactly
  51 Aug 01 20:43:52 <PenguinistaKC> OK. I apologize for the pedantic questions. I just want to make sure I'm on the same page you are.
  52 Aug 01 20:44:30 <spr0k3t>       no problems Matt... some information needs clarification.
  53 Aug 01 20:45:24 <spr0k3t>       Let's lump the documentation and signing part together.
  54 Aug 01 20:45:55 <PenguinistaKC> By signing documentation, I assume you mean gpg sigs?
  55 Aug 01 20:46:00 <spr0k3t>       One process I would like to see incorporated is the use of gpg to sign official documentation
  56 Aug 01 20:46:39 <spr0k3t>       The wiki however will be different as it keeps the information of who has modified what
  57 Aug 01 20:46:42 <nilihanth>     !explain gpg  :p
  58 Aug 01 20:46:56 <PenguinistaKC> GNU Privacy Guard
  59 Aug 01 20:47:02 <nilihanth>     oh
  60 Aug 01 20:47:03 <nilihanth>     thx
  61 Aug 01 20:47:11 <PenguinistaKC> Symmetric Key Encryption
  62 Aug 01 20:47:13 <spr0k3t>       nilihanth: the FOSS version of Pretty Good Privacy.
  63 Aug 01 20:47:27 <nilihanth>     alright
  64 Aug 01 20:47:57 <spr0k3t>       if you need help getting gpg set up, there are several documents available... but feel free to ask if you ever get stumped.
  65 Aug 01 20:48:04 <nilihanth>     sure will
  66 Aug 01 20:48:51 <spr0k3t>       alright... do you guys have any questions thus far?
  67 Aug 01 20:48:59 <PenguinistaKC> Basically, we both create a public key and a private key, and share the public key. The keys are unique. You can electronically sign documents with GPG -- it will create a hash using your public key, and spit out a string of values. 
  68 Aug 01 20:49:48 <PenguinistaKC> I can then compare the signature on the document with the public key I have on file, and if they match, I know that you signed the document and it hasn't been tampered with since you did that.
  69 Aug 01 20:50:00 <spr0k3t>       exactly.  And to keep the public keys, we'll use Lanchpad.net as it has a very convenient way to update, create etc.
  70 Aug 01 20:50:03 <PenguinistaKC> If the signatures don't match, then I know that you didn't sign it, or it was modified after your signature was applied.
  71 Aug 01 20:50:34 <nilihanth>     sounds perfect
  72 Aug 01 20:50:52 <PenguinistaKC> It is pretty darn cool.
  73 Aug 01 20:51:02 <jbrouhard>     Exuse me while i get ready to shut down here.. we're closing the school for the night.
  74 Aug 01 20:51:59 <PenguinistaKC> The only issue with it is that I don't think we can meaningfully sign wiki pages, since they are designed for modification, and I'm not sure how an html page (especially a dynamically generated one) could be signed.
  75 Aug 01 20:52:00 <spr0k3t>       morning Joe
  76 Aug 01 20:52:13 <jbrouhard>     You can't.
  77 Aug 01 20:52:18 <jbrouhard>     Signing a HTML page require
  78 Aug 01 20:52:20 <jbrouhard>     grr
  79 Aug 01 20:52:28 <PenguinistaKC> We could sign logs and other text-type documents, however.
  80 Aug 01 20:52:34 <jbrouhard>     The only way to "sign" a dynamically generated page is to encrypt the source code.
  81 Aug 01 20:52:38 <spr0k3t>       PenguinistaKC: exactly, see my comment from previous
  82 Aug 01 20:53:31 <spr0k3t>       Wiki keeps track of who modifies what for us... no need for signing
  83 Aug 01 20:53:41 <PenguinistaKC> Sorry, I read your comment and it didn't register with the brain in time to stop the fingers from keying. :)
  84 Aug 01 20:53:51 <nilihanth>     darn fingers
  85 Aug 01 20:53:55 <PenguinistaKC> darn brain
  86 Aug 01 20:53:59 <spr0k3t>       hahhaah
  87 Aug 01 20:54:29 <spr0k3t>       alright, so documentation and signing looks to be in good order.
  88 Aug 01 20:55:36 <PenguinistaKC> Let's discuss application, though. For example, we will want to sign this week's log, correct?
  89 Aug 01 20:56:10 <spr0k3t>       of course... and when I can find the other log that was created, I'll make sure the signed version of the log is updated.
  90 Aug 01 20:56:50 <PenguinistaKC> So then, whoever creates the log that we adopt as official would sign it -- should we also have a witness sign as well?
  91 Aug 01 20:57:11 <PenguinistaKC> There goes my engineering mind again, always asking the questions.
  92 Aug 01 20:57:16 <jbrouhard>     heh
  93 Aug 01 20:58:29 <spr0k3t>       the way I see it, a single signature shows the document created as signed, any objections to parts of the document can be detailed in meetings such as these.
  94 Aug 01 20:58:53 <PenguinistaKC> Are there any other suggestions or comments?
  95 Aug 01 20:59:07 <nilihanth>     none here
  96 Aug 01 20:59:53 <spr0k3t>       so let's move on to our next point, the July 21 meeting and scheduling next face-to-face
  97 Aug 01 21:00:04 <PenguinistaKC> OK. In order to cut down on the amount of typing everyone does, I will take votes by asking for consensus. If no one replies in the negative by the end of the meeting, the motion will be considered adopted. Is everyone cool with that?
  98 Aug 01 21:00:19 <nilihanth>     aye
  99 Aug 01 21:00:35 <spr0k3t>       that should work good.
 100 Aug 01 21:01:36 <spr0k3t>       the impromptu meeting we had on the 21st turned out much better than I expected.
 101 Aug 01 21:01:59 <jbrouhard>     logging everyone
 102 Aug 01 21:02:01 <jbrouhard>     be back later
 103 Aug 01 21:02:04 <spr0k3t>       Initially the plan was just to have the current members of the team to meet up face to face.
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 105 Aug 01 21:02:11 <PenguinistaKC> OK, the policy is that all documents created by and for the team will be signed by its creator, except for wiki pages and other media which do not lend themselves to signing. Documents that require adoption will be offered for comment and objection, and those comments/objections will be noted at the IRC meeting or the meeting where they are brought up.
 106 Aug 01 21:02:29 <PenguinistaKC> Sorry, spr0k3t...go ahead with your observations.
 107 Aug 01 21:02:56 <spr0k3t>       not a problem... I'm going to use that as my signature from now on... it looks taste-official like.
 108 Aug 01 21:03:48 <spr0k3t>       I think in total we had what, 8 interested users including ourselves?
 109 Aug 01 21:04:13 <PenguinistaKC> 6 plus four kids
 110 Aug 01 21:04:29 <spr0k3t>       thank you, all the kids running around made it a bit blurry
 111 Aug 01 21:04:50 <PenguinistaKC> My son seems to think he has a girlfriend now. :)
 112 Aug 01 21:05:04 <spr0k3t>       hahaha, I'll make sure to tell zoe that. 8^)
 113 Aug 01 21:05:41 <PenguinistaKC> I said "Did you have fun playing with Mr. Seaton's kids?" and he replied "You mean playing with my girlfriend?"
 114 Aug 01 21:05:54 <PenguinistaKC> He wants to see them again.
 115 Aug 01 21:06:21 <spr0k3t>       that's cool... hopefully the rice storm was finished before the misses returned
 116 Aug 01 21:07:05 <spr0k3t>       nilihanth: you were there weren't you?
 117 Aug 01 21:07:09 <PenguinistaKC> She had that resigned look on her face that all mothers compose when they see a wrecked room. But it wasn't nearly as bad as the upstairs usually is after Noah and friends are through with it.
 118 Aug 01 21:07:37 <nilihanth>     spr0k3t, I was not at a face to face meeting
 119 Aug 01 21:07:48 <spr0k3t>       k, my bad
 120 Aug 01 21:08:06 <nilihanth>     was Joe there?
 121 Aug 01 21:08:12 <PenguinistaKC> I apologize, I have not been able to connect with Brett to find out when his dad's office will be open.
 122 Aug 01 21:08:13 <spr0k3t>       yeah, joe was there
 123 Aug 01 21:08:27 <PenguinistaKC> I will do so, however, and post some times to the mailing list.
 124 Aug 01 21:08:38 <nilihanth>     um...forgive my ignorance, but how did y'all communicate?
 125 Aug 01 21:09:06 <PenguinistaKC> Well, we originally set up the meeting over e-mail.
 126 Aug 01 21:09:11 <spr0k3t>       that's fine... if need be, we can always "invade" another location like my place
 127 Aug 01 21:09:48 <spr0k3t>       it was kind of an impromptu get together.
 128 Aug 01 21:10:29 <spr0k3t>       I believe the thread about it is in the mailing list logs.
 129 Aug 01 21:11:05 <PenguinistaKC> As spr0k3t said earlier, it began as a gathering to organize the Team. Then I met folks at Surplus Exchange and invited them to come along, and also invited another friend of mine who is in the business.
 130 Aug 01 21:11:32 <spr0k3t>       turned out great if you ask me...
 131 Aug 01 21:11:36 <PenguinistaKC> I am a rather outgoing person, so I have a habit of spontaneously inviting people to stuff. :)
 132 Aug 01 21:11:50 <nilihanth>     do any of you know sign language?
 133 Aug 01 21:12:01 <PenguinistaKC> I do not, unfortunately, but Joe does.
 134 Aug 01 21:12:08 <spr0k3t>       I know very few things in sign...
 135 Aug 01 21:12:11 <nilihanth>     lol, I imagine he does :)
 136 Aug 01 21:12:45 <spr0k3t>       I've had to learn a bit of it, but I've never totally picked it up...
 137 Aug 01 21:13:13 <PenguinistaKC> Here's what I would like for folks to do. Please look at your calendars and post to the list what nights of the week work best for a meeting.
 138 Aug 01 21:13:52 <spr0k3t>       what time frame are we looking at or do you mean times for weekly meetings?
 139 Aug 01 21:14:02 <PenguinistaKC> For this next meeting, I'm probably going to try to get a Saturday evening, because I am pretty sure Warren doesn't see a lot of clients over the weekend.
 140 Aug 01 21:14:17 <PenguinistaKC> Face-to-face meetings, sorry...should have been more specific
 141 Aug 01 21:14:24 <spr0k3t>       thanks, it's for the log
 142 Aug 01 21:14:29 <PenguinistaKC> Our IRC meetings are already set for 1st / 3rd Wednesdays
 143 Aug 01 21:14:35 <spr0k3t>       nod
 144 Aug 01 21:15:32 <PenguinistaKC> I'll let Warren tell us when he can let us have the space, and then we can see if it works. I also have a call in to the Plaza library, and I am going to try to talk to the Jackson County Genealogical Society about using their library, near downtown Independence.
 145 Aug 01 21:16:24 <spr0k3t>       I've got to wrap my time up soon, as I have to leave for work about 5 til 10.
 146 Aug 01 21:16:28 <PenguinistaKC> They do not have internet access presently, but they want to set a network up there, and I thought about maybe making some sort of deal where we could install and troubleshoot their network in return for giving us space.
 147 Aug 01 21:16:47 <nilihanth>     sounds like a neat trade
 148 Aug 01 21:17:07 <spr0k3t>       quite, something I would definitely help with.
 149 Aug 01 21:17:29 <PenguinistaKC> For those who are familiar, they are in the Train Station off River Road.
 150 Aug 01 21:17:39 <PenguinistaKC> They have half of the building, Amtrack has the other half.
 151 Aug 01 21:17:48 <PenguinistaKC> It is literally on the "other side of the tracks."
 152 Aug 01 21:17:52 <spr0k3t>       south of barry road btw (gr&d)
 153 Aug 01 21:17:56 <PenguinistaKC> lol
 154 Aug 01 21:18:23 <PenguinistaKC> It is a very nice space, with plenty of tables and chairs. I don't know about electrical outlets, which could be important.
 155 Aug 01 21:18:39 <spr0k3t>       power strips FTW
 156 Aug 01 21:18:44 <PenguinistaKC> But I'll talk to them and see if they are interested.
 157 Aug 01 21:18:50 <nilihanth>     is that near the big spiral church?
 158 Aug 01 21:18:53 <PenguinistaKC> Yes
 159 Aug 01 21:18:59 <nilihanth>     ok, cool
 160 Aug 01 21:19:00 <PenguinistaKC> Just down the street a couple of blocks
 161 Aug 01 21:19:06 <PenguinistaKC> A little south
 162 Aug 01 21:19:14 <nilihanth>     I know the area well
 163 Aug 01 21:19:20 <nilihanth>     I go to church near there
 164 Aug 01 21:19:54 <PenguinistaKC> I'm completely open to ideas of other places in other parts of the city, so please feel free to talk to folks and see about other spaces.
 165 Aug 01 21:20:08 <PenguinistaKC> I'm even open to rotating meetings to make it easy for folks to attend.
 166 Aug 01 21:20:22 <spr0k3t>       for those not familiar with the area, we'll make sure we post a kmz file for google earth.
 167 Aug 01 21:20:36 <nilihanth>     ooh, good idea
 168 Aug 01 21:20:46 <PenguinistaKC> As we grow and get members from outside the metro, I hope we can have gatherings in St. Louis, Columbia, etc. as well.
 169 Aug 01 21:21:06 <nilihanth>     or in Hermann during Oktoberfest?
 170 Aug 01 21:21:09 <nilihanth>     :D
 171 Aug 01 21:21:17 <spr0k3t>       unterbar?!
 172 Aug 01 21:21:20 <PenguinistaKC> I'm for it. What do Linux geeks like more than computers?
 173 Aug 01 21:21:23 <PenguinistaKC> BEER.
 174 Aug 01 21:21:30 <nilihanth>     lolorz
 175 Aug 01 21:21:33 <nilihanth>     indeed
 176 Aug 01 21:21:50 <PenguinistaKC> Are there any other observations?
 177 Aug 01 21:21:55 <PenguinistaKC> On this subject, that is.
 178 Aug 01 21:22:01 <nilihanth>     about beer?  j/k
 179 Aug 01 21:22:08 <PenguinistaKC> lol
 180 Aug 01 21:22:19 <PenguinistaKC> About meetings. Post any ideas to the mailing list, please.
 181 Aug 01 21:22:32 <spr0k3t>       just about to say that.
 182 Aug 01 21:23:00 <spr0k3t>       so let's move on to the projects, I've got about 10 mins left
 183 Aug 01 21:23:07 <PenguinistaKC> I'm going to move on. I put suggested projects on the agenda because I was hoping to have a little more detail on the two proposals I made on Sunday night.
 184 Aug 01 21:23:29 <PenguinistaKC> I don't have that because I've been under the weather for a couple of days.
 185 Aug 01 21:23:30 <spr0k3t>       check on the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MissourTeam/Projects
 186 Aug 01 21:23:35 <PenguinistaKC> I would like to note a couple of things, however:
 187 Aug 01 21:24:09 <spr0k3t>       (I've been busy fleshing out the Wiki, sorry)
 188 Aug 01 21:24:12 <PenguinistaKC> Good man!
 189 Aug 01 21:24:21 <PenguinistaKC> Whatever secret sauce you are imbibing, I want some.
 190 Aug 01 21:24:28 <spr0k3t>       8^)
 191 Aug 01 21:24:33 <PenguinistaKC> You have too much energy for a man with three kids and a job. :)
 192 Aug 01 21:24:42 <spr0k3t>       three jobs my man... three
 193 Aug 01 21:24:54 <nilihanth>     one job for each kid
 194 Aug 01 21:25:03 <nilihanth>     he's clinically insane I think :D
 195 Aug 01 21:25:06 <spr0k3t>       that's about what it takes these days...
 196 Aug 01 21:25:19 <nilihanth>     I tease!
 197 Aug 01 21:25:21 <PenguinistaKC> Actually, our first project, which isn't listed, is our wiki, which Kent is ably handling. Kent, would you object to being "officially" tasked as our Wiki Project manager?
 198 Aug 01 21:25:45 <nilihanth>     I second that non-motion
 199 Aug 01 21:26:18 <spr0k3t>       I would honored to do so.  However, I would encourage anyone interested in learning to jump in head first and ask questions as they build sections of the wiki
 200 Aug 01 21:26:27 <PenguinistaKC> Your job would be to police our pages, update as you see the need, conscript others into updating as you see the need, make sure we meet the standards, and whatever else needs to be done to make ours the finest wiki in Ubuntudom.
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 202 Aug 01 21:26:48 <nilihanth>     hello Bootstrap!
 203 Aug 01 21:27:04 <spr0k3t>       sweet, welcome to the meeting dataraper
 204 Aug 01 21:27:28 <PenguinistaKC> OK, unless there are objections, spr0k3t is now project manager for Missouri Team wiki. I ask for consensus.
 205 Aug 01 21:27:53 <spr0k3t>       anyway, the Wiki is really coming along, and I'm quite proud of how much it has expanded since the last meeting.
 206 Aug 01 21:27:54 <nilihanth>     no objections here
 207 Aug 01 21:28:00 <PenguinistaKC> We'll start discussing projects in more detail on the mailing list.
 208 Aug 01 21:28:12 <spr0k3t>       Agreed
 209 Aug 01 21:28:17 <PenguinistaKC> I just want to say that I think spr0k3t has done a GREAT job on the wiki!
 210 Aug 01 21:28:33 <nilihanth>     indeed!
 211 Aug 01 21:28:36 *               spr0k3t blushes
 212 Aug 01 21:28:39 <PenguinistaKC> After notes -- does anyone want to add anything before we close?
 213 Aug 01 21:28:45 *               nilihanth bows to spr0k3t's wikiness
 214 Aug 01 21:29:03 <spr0k3t>       One thing I would like everyone to think about, a logo.
 215 Aug 01 21:29:15 <PenguinistaKC> Good point, spr0k3t
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 217 Aug 01 21:29:27 <spr0k3t>       We need to have one for the team, centric of Missouri and all.
 218 Aug 01 21:29:35 <nilihanth>     spr0k3t, is it ok to have the official ubuntu logo included in our logo?
 219 Aug 01 21:29:57 <spr0k3t>       nilihanth: yup, it can be used, but it must stick to the trademark policy
 220 Aug 01 21:30:47 <PenguinistaKC> If there are folks who want to take a stab at it, go for it.
 221 Aug 01 21:31:10 <spr0k3t>       I'll have more information on the trademarks and guidelines on the Projects pages when I can... for now, the artwork subpages have a brief idea of where we can take the team logo.
 222 Aug 01 21:31:14 <nilihanth>     well, without any imagination included I quickly just thought of having a sillohuette of Missouri with the Ubuntu logo somehwere's on it
 223 Aug 01 21:31:26 <nilihanth>     yeah, cool
 224 Aug 01 21:32:07 <PenguinistaKC> I guess that a penguin stomping a dead jayhawk would probably be considered somewhat controversial. </me looks innocent>
 225 Aug 01 21:32:15 <spr0k3t>       I'll throw the idea on the wiki... if you have a chance, pull together an example for the page.
 226 Aug 01 21:32:16 <PenguinistaKC> :)
 227 Aug 01 21:32:18 <nilihanth>     PenguinistaKC, I love it
 228 Aug 01 21:32:28 <spr0k3t>       PenguinistaKC: PERFECT! j/k
 229 Aug 01 21:32:42 *               PenguinistaKC is Missouri born, Missouri bred
 230 Aug 01 21:32:43 <nilihanth>     spr0k3t, I'll see what I can do
 231 Aug 01 21:32:49 *               nilihanth is too
 232 Aug 01 21:32:51 <spr0k3t>       k, thanks
 233 Aug 01 21:33:01 <nilihanth>     in fact, KC-born, KC-bred
 234 Aug 01 21:33:07 <spr0k3t>       don't know where you guys are from, but I'm also from Misery
 235 Aug 01 21:33:29 <PenguinistaKC> I'm from the Chillicothe area, originally. Livingston County
 236 Aug 01 21:33:37 <PenguinistaKC> Lived in KC since 1998.
 237 Aug 01 21:33:40 <spr0k3t>       ack, alarm just went off, I've got 5 mins
 238 Aug 01 21:33:46 <PenguinistaKC> OK, we'll close then.
 239 Aug 01 21:34:00 <spr0k3t>       ooo, almost forgot
 240 Aug 01 21:34:16 <PenguinistaKC> go ahead
 241 Aug 01 21:34:52 <spr0k3t>       we should look to see if we can find sponsorship for the team... preferrable a state bred organization such as UMB Banks or the like.
 242 Aug 01 21:35:33 <PenguinistaKC> We should talk about that on the list and at our face-to-face. Hand-in-hand with that is formally organizing ourselves.
 243 Aug 01 21:36:09 <spr0k3t>       just a reminder to everyone is all... we can get more information posted on the mailing list.
 244 Aug 01 21:36:12 <PenguinistaKC> Having a sponsor is a great idea, or having more than one is better.
 245 Aug 01 21:36:37 <spr0k3t>       that reminds me. we need to poke VORIAN to get our forums set.
 246 Aug 01 21:37:01 <spr0k3t>       I spoke with him earlier today about it and found he can set it up for us if needed.
 247 Aug 01 21:37:08 <PenguinistaKC> OK, we had two items on the agenda tonight, one being the documentation signing policy and one being the appointment of Kent Seaton as wiki project manager. Hearing no objections, both items are considered approved by consensus.
 248 Aug 01 21:37:24 <PenguinistaKC> The meeting is closed.
 249 Aug 01 21:37:26 <spr0k3t>       agreed
 250 Aug 01 21:38:01 <nilihanth>     dataraper, you on your phone right now?
 251 Aug 01 21:38:11 *               nilihanth pokes dataraper
 252 Aug 01 21:38:15 <PenguinistaKC> It took the infrastructure folks over a month to get the mailing list up, so I haven't gotten excited about it yet.
 253 Aug 01 21:38:23 <Vorian>        spr0k3t, http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=48
 254 Aug 01 21:38:26 <Vorian>        :)
 255 Aug 01 21:38:54 <Vorian>        post the info there
 256 Aug 01 21:39:04 <Vorian>        we still have protocols to follow :)
 257 Aug 01 21:39:36 <spr0k3t>       thanks Vorian... I'll get it posted.
 258 Aug 01 21:40:12 <Vorian>        kewl
 259 Aug 01 21:40:24 <Vorian>        I'll get you set up as soon as i'm able
 260 Aug 01 21:40:50 <PenguinistaKC> No one has replied to our request yet, but like any volunteer group, I don't expect instant gratification. I've been doing the volunteer thing for twenty years or more now, and the first thing I learned is that stuff goes at its own speed. :)
 261 Aug 01 21:41:01 <spr0k3t>       it's posted V
 262 Aug 01 21:41:45 <PenguinistaKC> Vorian, what is the best way to contact you and johnc with mentoring-type questions?
 263 Aug 01 21:42:22 <Vorian>        email or just /msg
 264 Aug 01 21:42:40 <Vorian>        spr0k3t, you need to change the format of your request
 265 Aug 01 21:42:53 <spr0k3t>       the request is already in there... 8^)
 266 Aug 01 21:43:00 <spr0k3t>       Missouri Team
 267 Aug 01 21:43:26 <Vorian>        spr0k3t, no the format
 268 Aug 01 21:43:26 <Vorian>        http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=302242
 269 Aug 01 21:43:31 <Vorian>        like that :)
 270 Aug 01 21:43:38 <spr0k3t>       along with a few others dating back to June 11th
 271 Aug 01 21:43:44 <Vorian>        ah
 272 Aug 01 21:43:46 <spr0k3t>       http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=505917
 273 Aug 01 21:43:53 <Vorian>        /merging
 274 Aug 01 21:44:45 <Vorian>        spr0k3t, I'm just waiting for my "keys"
 275 Aug 01 21:45:01 <spr0k3t>       Thanks V... hopefully that will be soon.
 276 Aug 01 21:45:20 <spr0k3t>       anyway, I've gotta bolt... I've got 5 mins to get ready.
 277 Aug 01 21:45:27 <nilihanth>     go go go!
 278 Aug 01 21:45:38 <--             spr0k3t_log has quit ("Leaving")
 279 Aug 01 21:45:59 <nilihanth>     well, i'm off too
 280 Aug 01 21:46:05 <nilihanth>     cya tomorrow
 281 Aug 01 21:46:18 <--             nilihanth has quit ("going sleepy")
 282 Aug 01 21:46:59 <--             dataraper has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection
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 284 Aug 01 21:51:52 <PenguinistaKC> I updated the request.
 285 Aug 01 21:52:51 <PenguinistaKC> Time for me to take my cough to bed!
 286 Aug 01 21:52:59 Sound-notification plugin unloaded.
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