This is the 18th IRC General meeting of the NewYorkTeam, starting at 6:00 PM EST and finishing at 7:30 EST When adding new agenda items please "sign" them, place @SIG@ (without the escape - marks) after each of your items. If you won't be in attendance, please describe your item and wishes in detail otherwise those items may not be effectively discussed.
Agenda
- Meet Ups
- Rochester: First Thursday's at Victor Unos. Next Meet Up October 4th 7pm
- Brooklyn: Saturday October 6, 2007 2:00 at K-Dog Cafe.
- Encouraging more Meet Ups
New website is up: http://www.newyork-ubuntu.com
- Community Advocacy and Support
- Rochester Computer Refurbish with Ubuntu
- Have almost a dozen computers ready and Looking for organization to donate to
- Possibility of Legal Organizing or Proxy Org (Some donaters want tax break)
- Developing more activities to benefit NY
- Buffalo, Syracuse, Ithaca, Corning, Albany etc
- Network with local LUG and Computer Groups
- Encouraging Member Participation
- Phone or Email tree
- Develop micro-tasks
- State Leadership Meeting
- Before Thanksgiving
- Afternoon in Utica or Binghampton
- Rochester Computer Refurbish with Ubuntu
- Conference 2008
- A waiting sponsorship of legal entity to run conference
- Form a temporary organization to operate the conference
- Gutsy Release Parties?
- Discuss how to document incident resolution by a "lessons learned" section on the wiki.
- It would include a non-biased statement of the issue, how it was resolved, and an iWitness report or two.
- Pick a name for this which reflects the point that it is not a forum for personal agendas, but rather for team development and education.
- Team Application for official recognition
- Team Resume of contributions to Ubuntu and its community involvement
Attendance
Minutes
IRC Logs
(06:03:11 PM) ausimage: Well lets get this meeting going ! (06:03:25 PM) ausimage: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/Meetings/20071002 <== follow along here.... (06:03:40 PM) ausimage: I may only mention some topics.... to get the deep ones... (06:04:00 PM) ausimage: So the first topic are Meet Ups.... (06:04:22 PM) ausimage: Rochester has set aside the first Thursday of the month for meetups.... (06:04:43 PM) ausimage: The next is this Thursday at Victor's Unos (06:04:51 PM) ausimage: it starts at 7pm (06:05:07 PM) ausimage: The next meetup is in Brooklyn for NYC (06:05:31 PM) ausimage: Bossmanbeta has setup this Saturday at 2pm at k-Dog cafe for a meetup (06:05:34 PM) Dave123: hey (06:05:44 PM) Gnu_Joe: anyone in the Hudson Valley is welcome at our LUG meeting tomorrow at 6:3-pm => http://mhvlug.org/ (06:05:57 PM) ausimage: Awesome Gnu_Joe (06:06:17 PM) Dave123: lugor in rochster on the third thursday at rit (06:06:33 PM) Gnu_Joe: now 70% of our members are running some form of Ubuntu ;-) (06:06:40 PM) ausimage: I think we should be working on encouraging more meetups in other communities (06:06:52 PM) Gnu_Joe: I second that! (06:07:24 PM) ausimage: Anyone that wants to start one in their community, you can get all the moral support from IRC and SIP.... (06:08:04 PM) ausimage: We should probably ensure all the linux meetings are listed on the LUG page ;) (06:08:12 PM) Dave123: I'm on 5000 if anyone wants to jump on (06:08:15 PM) ausimage: and of course when they meet... (06:08:59 PM) ausimage: Next is an announcement that I have redesigned the team website.... (06:09:18 PM) ausimage: the new version is up at www.newyork-ubuntu.com (06:09:30 PM) ausimage: feedback and suggestions are welcome (06:09:31 PM) psychoneil: looks kickass ausimage (06:09:35 PM) ausimage: thanks (06:09:42 PM) infinityxi`work left the room (quit: Remote closed the connection). (06:09:45 PM) Dave123: yes very nice job (06:10:02 PM) ausimage: Now the big TOPIC.... Community Advocay and Support (06:10:04 PM) ausimage: :S (06:10:47 PM) Gnu_Joe: Avidemux (06:11:02 PM) Gnu_Joe: sorry wrong keyboard ;-( (06:11:30 PM) ausimage: First on that is Rochester Refurbishing Computers (06:12:19 PM) psychoneil: great idea, will be interested in helping if i can (06:12:27 PM) ausimage: hal14450_ and Dave123 have started collecting computers (06:12:42 PM) Dave123: ausimage, want me to give an update? (06:12:58 PM) ausimage: They are now looking for recipients (06:13:23 PM) Dave123: we have collected 8 complete systems - keyboard, mouse, tower, 17" crt (06:13:25 PM) ausimage: Rochester is looking organizations that help the needy or educational places (06:13:39 PM) Dave123: and we have a 9th without a monitor (06:13:46 PM) Dave123: and a proliant server (06:14:15 PM) psychoneil: i might be able to give you my gf's old crt. ill ask her tonight (06:14:16 PM) Dave123: we also can have 2 sun microsystems boxes if we want them (06:14:38 PM) ausimage: Rochester sees this as a project that could be done in other regions in NY (06:14:49 PM) Dave123: I think hal14450_ and I are going to meetup on saturday and play with the server (06:15:13 PM) Dave123: psychoneil, we can provide some systems if you have contacts (06:15:32 PM) ausimage: The group has however run into a situation... (06:15:42 PM) psychoneil: dont know anyone offhand who needs them, but i might get more donations for you (06:16:05 PM) ausimage: Some donators want there write-offf (06:16:35 PM) ausimage: I think this is a very big topic.... that has had mixed reviews.... (06:17:04 PM) ausimage: So perhaps a comittee should be formed to examine our needs.... (06:17:36 PM) ausimage: If you noticed... the Conference committee is looking at the same situation too... (06:18:17 PM) ausimage: How does the group feel about this? (06:19:04 PM) ausimage: having committee form to explore the benefits and challenges... (06:19:06 PM) psychoneil: seems like our major problem there is canonical not responding to our requests? (06:19:27 PM) psychoneil: or not understanding what we are trying to do here (06:19:48 PM) ausimage: well psychoneil, jono the canonical community rep does not see the need for a legal organization.... (06:19:49 PM) infinityxi left the room (quit: "Do you Ubuntu?"). (06:19:58 PM) ausimage: that is what I have been told... (06:20:22 PM) ausimage: But we keep running into the need of a legal organization..... (06:20:36 PM) ausimage: whether we partner or form our own (06:21:10 PM) ausimage: I see this as something that needs serious thought... that cannot be resolved immediately... (06:21:19 PM) WeblionX: You have to form a non-profit so people who donate can get write-offs. (06:21:26 PM) psychoneil: arent there other locos trying large scale projects like this? this issue hasnt come up before? (06:21:54 PM) ausimage: psychoneil: they partner with large coorporations to usuall put on conferences (06:22:19 PM) ausimage: but I am not sure if they have attempted a computer project like ours (06:22:47 PM) Gnu_Joe: http://www.softwarefreedom.org is in the City they spoke at Ubucon... (06:23:07 PM) Gnu_Joe: maybe they can help? (06:23:17 PM) ausimage: Yeah... possibly... (06:23:59 PM) ausimage: If there are several members willing to meet a few times to discuss this..... and resolve the issues.... I think this is the best route (06:24:24 PM) ausimage: I am willing to be apart the committee... to look at this. (06:24:44 PM) ausimage: anyone else like to join me? (06:25:02 PM) psychoneil: i will (06:25:09 PM) ausimage: cool.... (06:25:49 PM) ausimage: Anyone can participate with committee... (06:25:51 PM) Dave123: I can be on the comittee (06:25:58 PM) ausimage: awesome... (06:26:20 PM) ausimage: Lets move on... if you want to be listed on the committee let me know (06:26:44 PM) ausimage: The next item is developing more activities through out NY state (06:27:18 PM) ausimage: Somehow we need to develop membership and activities in other areas of the state.... (06:27:56 PM) ausimage: I can see Buffalo, Syracuse, Ithaca, Corning, Albany etc having active groups doing community activities and meetups (06:28:17 PM) ausimage: but the question is how to make this a reality (06:28:21 PM) Gnu_Joe: hay Poughkeepsie is on that list (06:28:39 PM) ausimage: I will make a note of that Gnu_Joe (06:29:10 PM) ausimage: I think one thing is to get our community calendar up to date and post the events on the list (06:29:34 PM) ausimage: Any event related to the Team or Linux should be noted... (06:30:06 PM) ausimage: So we can see and let everyone else know (06:30:43 PM) ausimage: Feel free to chime in (06:31:38 PM) ausimage: Well... lets try and post to our list the events happening in our communities as a start :) (06:33:06 PM) ausimage: Um next Encouraging Member Participation.... (06:33:06 PM) psychoneil: can we make a calendar downloadable to korganizer? (06:33:26 PM) ausimage: Um that should be possible with the google apps calendar;) (06:33:47 PM) ausimage: The calendar just needs lots of loving.... (06:33:49 PM) psychoneil: dont think it is. not yet at least (06:34:12 PM) ausimage: hmmm.... I thought it had the ics export.... (06:34:38 PM) ausimage: I mean google... I have google calendars in evolution here (06:35:10 PM) ausimage: psychoneil: I will look at with you after the meeting... (06:35:15 PM) ausimage: :) (06:35:26 PM) psychoneil: k (06:35:36 PM) ausimage: On Member Participation..... (06:36:12 PM) ausimage: I think there are several things that could be done to improve things (06:36:26 PM) ***ausimage not sure about that sentence :S (06:37:15 PM) ausimage: The first important one is to get members to share what they are currently doing.... even if it is installing and encouraging ubuntu among freinds and family.... (06:38:14 PM) ausimage: It is nice for those who are putting forth effort for the team (06:38:31 PM) ausimage: to see that others are doing things as well :) (06:39:09 PM) ausimage: It has been suggested that we work on phone or email trees in the various regions.... (06:39:31 PM) ausimage: they could work to encourage one another with their projects.... (06:40:41 PM) ausimage: The other idea is that members should not have to expect to do the whole project themselves.... (06:41:20 PM) ausimage: Developing micro or mini-tasks that make up the project might help those with only a little time.... (06:42:23 PM) ausimage: I have heard from some members they don't have much time.... if those could find 15 minutes a week to microtask.... it would help us alot (06:42:38 PM) ***ausimage notices I am the only talking :S (06:43:16 PM) psychoneil: just taking notes here :P (06:43:20 PM) ausimage: I am bringing up suggestions.... and would love to hear responses (06:43:23 PM) ausimage: :D (06:43:43 PM) ausimage: OK... next item is Leadership ...... (06:44:00 PM) ausimage: Dave123 has suggested we hold a leadership meeting.... (06:44:14 PM) ausimage: Dave123: mind explaining the idea? (06:44:30 PM) Dave123: my idea was to meet in the center of the state, in line utica or bingamton (06:44:56 PM) Gnu_Joe: yes we need to invite all the Linux Dons (06:45:01 PM) Dave123: invite everyone from the state for an afternoon to meet face to face somewhere (06:45:23 PM) Dave123: and discuss the future of the group (06:45:26 PM) ausimage: I think that would be great... (06:45:41 PM) psychoneil: nods sounds like fun to me (06:45:47 PM) Dave123: i.e. projects, leadrship, regional management, etc. (06:46:11 PM) Dave123: we even meet at a resturant/bar type place for a few hours to reduce cost (06:46:14 PM) ausimage: I think I told dave we would carpool from my area;) (06:46:36 PM) ausimage: er could (06:46:44 PM) Dave123: and then people can't piss and moan that nothing gets done (06:46:59 PM) Gnu_Joe: Is the center of the state we want or the shortest distance for all? (06:47:06 PM) psychoneil: great idea... but it'll never get done :P (06:47:22 PM) Gnu_Joe: since I don't think we have any far out places (06:47:24 PM) ausimage: It would be great to see the active members.... (06:47:35 PM) Dave123: Gnu_Joe, utica or binghampton is the center of the state (06:47:40 PM) ausimage: Buffalo and Rochester :) (06:47:52 PM) Dave123: we have a very active western ny group (06:48:17 PM) Dave123: so we are trying to be accomidating to all (06:48:28 PM) ausimage: I think there is a member in Binghampton that works at university linux lab (06:48:41 PM) Gnu_Joe: just want to make sure it's truly central (06:49:09 PM) Dave123: yes binghamton is about half way (3 hours) between nyc and rochester (06:49:52 PM) Gnu_Joe: my old school know it well (06:50:03 PM) Dave123: yes (06:50:18 PM) Gnu_Joe: does anyone know anyone at BCC? (06:50:45 PM) ausimage: Gnu_Joe: there is member from University Binghampton (06:50:56 PM) Gnu_Joe: parking at BU is still a bitch (06:51:09 PM) ausimage: it is? (06:51:41 PM) Gnu_Joe: Well weekends were not so bad, but 15K students and only 5k parking spaces (06:52:20 PM) Dave123: we were thinking of meeting saturday november 17th (06:52:58 PM) Dave123: we probably would like some rsvps of who will show in case we need to adjust (06:53:00 PM) ausimage: does anyone have objections to gathering in binghampton? (06:53:34 PM) Dave123: not i (06:53:38 PM) Dave123: :) (06:53:45 PM) Gnu_Joe: Binghamton has the IBM-LTC there I can see if they can assist (06:53:58 PM) psychoneil: sounds good (06:54:00 PM) ausimage: Cool (06:54:17 PM) ausimage: I have the addie of a guy in the linux lab there (06:54:32 PM) Gnu_Joe: should be the same lab (06:54:38 PM) Dave123: worse comes to worse we rent a hotel conf room with 20 seats (06:54:42 PM) ausimage: Awesome lets set 2pm on the 17th of Nov 2007 (06:54:54 PM) ausimage: in Binghampton... Location TBD (06:55:20 PM) ausimage: Full details... to be posted to the list (06:55:28 PM) ausimage: Sounds good? (06:55:36 PM) ausimage: ack +1 (06:55:41 PM) psychoneil: +1 (06:56:04 PM) Dave123: +1 (06:56:14 PM) ausimage: Gnu_Joe: ? (06:56:48 PM) isacklow_afk is now known as isacklow (06:56:52 PM) ausimage: hmmmm.... (06:57:11 PM) ausimage: OK... then I think that is the majority at the meeting (06:57:34 PM) ausimage: Next Topic is the conference.... (06:58:00 PM) ausimage: The major point is going to be looked at with the committee that was formed.... (06:58:30 PM) ausimage: But the other point is that it would be nice to locate sponsors to help defray costs of the event... (06:58:57 PM) Gnu_Joe: can someone send a note to all the NY LUGs infoming them of the meeting when we have a location? (06:59:12 PM) ausimage: If you know of any that might be willing let the team know.... (06:59:26 PM) ausimage: Yeah Gnu_Joe I can CC the lugs.... (06:59:38 PM) Gnu_Joe: ty (07:00:21 PM) ausimage: OK Getting near the end :) (07:00:55 PM) ausimage: I would like to remind everyone that Gutsy is to be released the 18th of this month :) (07:01:36 PM) ausimage: Many groups like to celebrate the release.... If your region is planning a release party please post it the list (07:02:15 PM) Bossmanbeta [n=Bossmanb@ool-182f7f87.dyn.optonline.net] entered the room. (07:02:25 PM) Bossmanbeta: greets (07:02:37 PM) ausimage: Bossmanbeta: Meeting in progess :) (07:02:38 PM) Dave123: greets Bossmanbeta (07:02:40 PM) Bossmanbeta: tried to make sure I made it for the meeting (07:02:54 PM) Bossmanbeta: had to work later than normal today so .. (07:03:03 PM) Bossmanbeta: we meeting on the conference or in irc (07:03:09 PM) Dave123: no here on irc (07:03:12 PM) ausimage: in IRC (07:03:12 PM) Bossmanbeta: ah ok (07:03:18 PM) ***Bossmanbeta takes a seat (07:03:44 PM) ausimage: I think we leave the next topic for when Hendirxski and Deejoe are here.... (07:04:23 PM) ausimage: It is on incident resolution and they proposed the topic (07:04:24 PM) Bossmanbeta: anything already discussed involved NYC ? (07:05:04 PM) ausimage: ummm... actually everything involves NYC;) (07:05:05 PM) Dave123: just that you are habing a metting (07:05:13 PM) Bossmanbeta: oh (07:05:14 PM) Bossmanbeta: ok (07:05:19 PM) Bossmanbeta: well not much, then.. :) (07:05:32 PM) Dave123: Bossmanbeta, call 5000 and i'll fill you in (07:05:33 PM) Bossmanbeta: ausimage, NYC or NYS ? :) (07:05:45 PM) Bossmanbeta: ok dave 1 sec (07:06:09 PM) ausimage: The last topic is to let everyone know that I have started the team application for official recognition... (07:06:31 PM) psychoneil: yay! (07:06:45 PM) ausimage: This is an important doc that Community Council looks at to determine if we should be official or not.... (07:06:54 PM) ***deejoe did not propose the incident resolution topic (07:06:56 PM) Bossmanbeta: what is "official" recognition?: (07:07:11 PM) ausimage: I am not sure if I have everything current yet.... (07:07:16 PM) ausimage: please check it out (07:07:55 PM) ausimage: Bossmanbeta: it is where you get official recogntion and express services from Ubuntu (07:08:05 PM) ausimage: a special domain too (07:08:14 PM) Bossmanbeta: what is express services? (07:08:34 PM) ausimage: ummm... with ShipIt and Cd deliveries (07:09:07 PM) Bossmanbeta: i cannot seem to call into 5000 (07:09:16 PM) Bossmanbeta: (nothing but trouble that's been for me... oh well) (07:09:28 PM) ausimage: 5000@sip.nerdsonlinux.net (07:09:32 PM) Bossmanbeta: yea yea I know (07:09:40 PM) ausimage: hmmm (07:09:51 PM) Bossmanbeta: either no one can hear me, or I get dropped calls, or i cannot successfully connect... always something (07:10:00 PM) ausimage: Oh well that is all I have for the agenda.... (07:10:11 PM) ausimage: Are there other questions? (07:10:25 PM) ausimage: or additions to the agenda? (07:10:48 PM) Bossmanbeta: are there any specific responsibilities for people in diff areas of NYS? (07:10:48 PM) Dave123: nope (07:11:03 PM) Bossmanbeta: designated responsibilities, and if so who determines who does what and for how long (07:11:16 PM) Dave123: Bossmanbeta, we are going to have a leadership meeting (07:11:22 PM) Dave123: face to face (07:11:32 PM) ausimage: Um.... let me fill you in a little after the meeting (07:11:34 PM) Bossmanbeta: that'll be hard with NY state being as big as it is (07:11:55 PM) Bossmanbeta: ok ausimage (07:11:57 PM) ausimage: the meeting is adjourned (07:11:59 PM) ausimage: :D