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= Ubuntu NC LoCo Team IRC Meeting - April 1, 2010 - 7pm =

== Agenda ==
 
The agenda that was used to conduct the meeting can be found [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/Meeting/2010-04-01/Agenda | here]]. 

= Meeting opened by _marx_ at 23:00 =
 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> Hi Yall

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> hi _marx_  :-)  thanks for Chairing tonights meeting - you rock! :-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> rocking chair rock ;)

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> quick roll call

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> who's awake for the meeting?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> o/

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> o/

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> [link]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/Meeting/Agenda

||<#FF5555>''https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/Meeting/Agenda''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> [topic] individual advocacy

==  individual advocacy ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> anything to report on individual activities?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> participated in the huge Global Jam event last weekend

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> Ha, I met this guy in DC who runs Cyber Cafes in Ghana Africa - also supplies comps to children and schools...

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> turned him onto 'Buntu

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> we appear to have a new linux meetup in the area in clt

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> he was totally into... drop the hook when he asked, "How much does it cost?"

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> yeah lets see - I'm speaking at the Texas Linux Fest, GLUG, and attending POSSCON in April

 <'''<<Verbatim(alinuxfan)>>'''> i am in and out...just got home

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> alinuxfan: good day!

 <'''<<Verbatim(alinuxfan)>>'''> hey internalkernel :D

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> and _marx_ did one dual boot install for a neighbor

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> akgraner,  FWIW, there was in is a defunct GLUG but this one is GCLUG

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> outstanding internalkernel

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> I spoke at the Ubucon, WIOS, and UpSCaLE talks at SCaLE8x in Feb

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> jcg2, yeah that :-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> oh crap March not Feb

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> DOH!

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> oh also converted a couple other guys in Orlando - they may pop in here to say hi eventually, we'll have to connect them to the FL loco

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> see this is my day today

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> I spoke at the wnclug in March

 <'''<<Verbatim(alinuxfan)>>'''> i am showing off my database running ubuntu and apache and sqlite at work...talking about linux and burnt 4 cds for people today

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> akgraner: s/spoke/lectured

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> internalkernel, you weren't even there so ha!

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> I know you!

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> I've been trying to assist the new meetup, They are meeting next week. The leader appears interested in ubuntu subject matter.

 <'''<<Verbatim(alinuxfan)>>'''> trying to fix a guy's windows box that has a COMPLETELY FULL hd with all the linux distros that I can think to rescue a system with, but it won't mount the ntfs...tells me to boot into windows and run chkdsk /f

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> jfrorie, great

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> Im also moveing a company over the ubuntu for development

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> over to, rather

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> last call

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> 3 developers

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> oh and we re-org'd the wikis

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> jfrorie, there are two guys here in the Charlotte area who are interested too, did you make contact witht them

 <'''<<Verbatim(nameiner)>>'''> I'm here now, sorry for being late

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> jfrorie, I've been giving people in the Charlotte area your IRC nick to be on the lookout for

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> :-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> ditto

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> I didn;t.  I put note out on the charlug, ubunut-nc and UNCC lug groups for a potential meetup, but got no replies

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> davidvasta was one ... tronyx was the other

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> good point jcg2

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> The linux meetup appear to have some interest, but it's close timing to the release party date.

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> _marx_, also we have now populated the ubuntunc.com site

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> internalkernel, and I for now - if anyone else is interested in helping with that - let one of us know

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> some of these individual items could move to team items so let's keep that in mind

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> so yeah we have all been busy it seems

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> its a straight up wordpress blog... super simple...

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> last call

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> well individual stuff count toward team right?

 * '''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>''' can not type tonight  - nm me

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> well efforts initiated by individuals move forward to having help from other team members

 * '''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>''' neither

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> [topic] team advocacy

==  team advocacy ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> looking at the agenda

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> jcg2: have you contacted Adam Petaccia yet?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> anyone know the fellow who set up the Facebook page?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> Nope, I don't know him and he has not replied to me queries

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> [link]https://launchpad.net/~mighmos

||<#FF5555>''https://launchpad.net/~mighmos''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> He set this up a bit over a year ago, I believe

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> No one knows him?

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> i do not

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> we can always start a new one and use the tag line "spreading Ubuntu across the Tar Heel state" or something and redirect people to the new one and make sure like 5 or 6 people have admin access or something

 * '''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>''' sneaks in the back door

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> i think we should continue to try to contact him

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> OK, next item you can read.. mostly informational ... working on advocacy plan for the loco

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> I'll send and email to him tomorrow then

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> ak action item on that?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> Maybe he'll reply to a female

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> akgraner: action item for you on that?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> yep go for it

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> [action] akgraner to contact facebook page founder re: control

||<#FF5555>'' akgraner to contact facebook page founder re: control''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> oh jcg2 publicity stuff I need to get you the share ubuntu stuff

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> OK

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> dunno what that is

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> [topic] global jam reports

==  global jam reports ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> we had one

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> lasted 3 hours and had an attendance of two

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> and _marx_ bot infected with strep from grandson and missed it

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> /s/bot/got

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> there were people in atendance in the channel as well helping triage bugs and stuff

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> _marx_ a bot?  Wow.  That's kewl

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> hehe well it wasn't _that cool

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> a bot with strep that takes talent

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> jcg2: your contact at jamestown campus may be a good one for future global jam days

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> _marx_, may be, will have to work it a bit .. it's a gclug contact at the moment

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> okay so we didn't do that great on global jam events this go around

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> any thoughts on why?

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> [topic] release parties

==  release parties ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> sorry jcg2 trying to get to some cool new biz by 8

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> so far we have Winston, Raleigh

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> I understand...  just following the agenda .. no problem

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> any others

 <'''<<Verbatim(nameiner)>>'''> Raleigh will have one at the Big Boss Brewery

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> im not getting any response.  I'm going to put my weight behind the local linux meetup and see if I can get interst there.

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> nameiner: is that on the team wiki yet?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> depends on where on the wiki you want it, nameiner

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> upcoming events

 * '''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>''' wearing out the backspace button tonight

 <'''<<Verbatim(nameiner)>>'''> I think I put it on there or didn't I?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> dunno, not my deal

 <'''<<Verbatim(alinuxfan)>>'''> nameiner, you need any help with set up for that?

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> nothing in the Asheville area?!

 <'''<<Verbatim(nameiner)>>'''> alinuxfan, so far we have not much to set up

 <'''<<Verbatim(nameiner)>>'''> it's a bar and we have a table reserved in a side room

 <'''<<Verbatim(alinuxfan)>>'''> nameiner, easy enough :d

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> PR on Release parties: jcg2 did that flyer ever get finalized?

 <'''<<Verbatim(nameiner)>>'''> we might get a tour through the brewery though

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> I think so.. think it's on the wiki

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> ooh, i might show up for that one

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> So there is no event in Asheville?

 <'''<<Verbatim(nameiner)>>'''> sure BugeyeD

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> jcg2: not that i'm aware of

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> OK, thanks

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> wish they would move release day to fridays

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> jfrorie, if you arrange something in CLT pls let me know

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> well that might make it more difficult to book joints

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> jcg2: are u in clt

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> ?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> jfrorie, no, but am trying to assist from an advocacy standpoint with publicity

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> I'll be at the W-S party, I'm sure

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> Imight go to WS.  what's the time?

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> jcg2: we need to have an .odt format copy on the wiki so others can easily edit for their location

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> action item for me?

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> yes

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> [action] jcg2 odt format release party flyier on wiki

||<#FF5555>'' jcg2 odt format release party flyier on wiki''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> holstein: glad you made it!

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> half-way

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> okay something may pop up for release parties in the a'ville are in days to come

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> we are doing one

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> last call on release parties

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> ah go ahead holstein

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> yolu know something you aren't sharing?  Or just being optimistic?

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> ^

 * '''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>''' getting date

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> good!

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> we talked about doing it may 1st

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> at the firestorm

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> during the normal WNCLUG meeting time

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> well it doesn't have to be on release day

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> noon

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> thats what im planning on scheduling offically

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> after this saturdays meeting

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> holstein: can you wiki that once it's in "stone"

 * '''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>''' has bad luck with adding dates to the wiki

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> k

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i'll try

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> hollar and I'll help holstein

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> and if i have an issue

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i'll holla

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> send it to the list and jcg2 will help

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> jcg2: :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> excellent!

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> [topic] team approval

==  team approval ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> That will be 3, maybe 4 parties in NC

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> I think we are on track with the AA ... page could use more pics but I cannot find photos of other events.

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> akgraner: who did you get to look at our approval app?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> Ded we participate in the ALF last year?

 * '''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>''' catches up - I got locked out of our server

 <'''<<Verbatim(nameiner)>>'''> did you get the pics from last Raleigh release party

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> i think akgraner was at alf

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> Oh I had dantalizing look at it

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> The last release party was a bit confused in labeling, but yes I think I did.

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> ok

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> and laura czajkowski

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> loco council folks :-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> oh and itnet7

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> good, i was thinking of that irish polish name

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> yeppers I was one of the organizers

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> of ALF

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> what's up?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> So, did the loco have a presence there at ALF

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> oh jcg2 yep we participated

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> ALF add that to the approval app?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> I organized the ubucon and helped organized the main event

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> let me get you some links

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> Need more info Mark.   can't add unless it says something provable

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> i understand jcg2

||<#FF5555>'' http://amber.redvoodoo.org/2009/09/ohio-linux-fest.html here is Ohio''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> http://amber.redvoodoo.org/2009/09/ohio-linux-fest.html here is Ohio

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> i'm going to cut this off to give time for new stuff that is kind of exciting

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> here is Atlanta - http://amber.redvoodoo.org/2009/09/atlanta-linux-fest-and-mini-ubucon-o.html

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> another atlanta http://blog.redvoodoo.org/2009/09/atlanta-linuxfest-day-after.html

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> So are you suggesting I put your travels on the Approval page as team projects?

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> [topic] new items

==  new items ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> jfrorie: take it now

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> i went to disney in january

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> ok, today I had an exchange with Mr. shuttleworth that was rather interesting.

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> listen up people!

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg01180.html

 <'''<<Verbatim(alinuxfan)>>'''> cool jfrorie

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> more atlanta - http://boredandblogging.com/2009/08/13/ubuntu-atlanta-linux-fest-2009/

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> I wanted to purse an ubuntu sound theme project contest using some of the online sites, like kompoz.com and freesound.org

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> jcg2, no - I was one of the organizers of Atlanta

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> and Pete spoke at Ohio

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> and I helped with a couple booths at Ohio

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> gotta read the posts

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> :-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> blessing is probabyl a strong word, but I'm in contact with dudes at canonical

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> I'm going to try to organize this. I thouhg it might be a good thing to open up to the loco.  Might help us get approved.

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> so a contest for a new sound theme?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> jcg2, here is the spread ubuntu stuff - http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> basically, that's the idea.  Similar to what they are doing now with wallpapers.

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> jfrorie, yeah that is awesome

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> I'm all for the Loco doing this...

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> let me know when you get the go - I'll blog and stuff about it

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> think it will be too late for approval, but still like the idea

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> I've been in contact with bram de jong a while back.  I need ot reestablish those contacts.  Id like input form audio artists from anywhere to get input on ideas, venue, etc.

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> jfrorie, what is the contest that is there now?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> free and open something something something

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> right

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> me too, I know we have some strong sound audio folks here like holstein

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> akgraner: where?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> given that ubuntu's sound performance is crippled (or mine is) it does resemble putting lipstick on a hog, tho .. still as a project, I like it

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> hum my sound rocks!

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> if anybody wants a hand with audio, let me know

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> in ubuntu let me find the link

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> My thinking is that it will bring a new segment to unbuntu that may nothave exposure

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> recording, mastering, whatever

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> this might bring improvments to the audio as a whole

||<#FF5555>'' http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/10/01/ubuntu-karmic-free-culture-showcase-winners-announced/''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/10/01/ubuntu-karmic-free-culture-showcase-winners-announced/

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> lots a of windows talent we can nab

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> true, calling attention to deficits may get them fixed

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> free culture showcase

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> JACK knows no deficits

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> jono may want to get behind this as he is a musician. sorta :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> hehe

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> hehe

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> no he's not behind it  - it's a community thing

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> he is the community leader so he blogged about it

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> akgraner: that was sarcasm

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> am I the only one whose sound quits sometime after a flash video is played?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> severed fifth FTW!

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> flash is mutt

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> a mutt

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase

 * '''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>''' doesnt even have flash installed on audio production box

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> may be a mutt but it is a big part of the net that everyone wants to use

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> should we adopt this as a new project?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> jcg2: agreed

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> oh sorry - sarcasm is lost on me tonight

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> :-(

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> jfrorie: would you like for this to be a team project?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> so there is the wiki on the free Culture showcase - jfrorie I don't know that much about it but are we going to duplicate the effort there?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> I fine with it.

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> marx: I'm fine with it.

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> i've been trying to keep these at an hour

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> Does anyone know the load we are looking at?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> I run a point of contact.  Whoever joins in, it would be appreciated.

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> jfrorie, so will this be for 10.10?

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> not sure if a vote is in order though

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> can we take it to the mailing list

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> akgraner: dunno.  We need to see how long it take to get together

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> i think that's good

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> so more people can give imput and a longer discussion can happen

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> mailing list is a good idea since we seem ot be out of time

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> jfrorie, yep I like the idea

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> just want to make sure we aren't going to confuse community members and all

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> akgraner: confuse how?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> b/c of the competition that already exists and all

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> [action] jfrorie report to mailing list on new project "sound theme contest"

||<#FF5555>'' jfrorie report to mailing list on new project "sound theme contest"''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> we don't want people thinking they are applying for the Free Culture stuff

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> and it's not

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> that kind of stuff

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> ah. I want this to be external to ubuntu.  I want this on outside websites.  I think we need a wider audeince.

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> I was these site to use this to drive traffic to them.  Thet way they will get behind it

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> In that case, I'm not sure its a loco project

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> so can you write up your idea and send it to the mailing list - I think I am not seeing the big picture

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> so the sounds would not be for Ubuntu

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> It is if it steer by the loco

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> I would think it needs to be ubuntu specific for us to back it?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> They would be ubuntu.

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> I'd like to see a breakdown of the project

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> new splash sound the ultimate goal?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> ubuntu system sounds

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> a system sound theme pack

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> right?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> The whole freedesktop speicifcation

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> ah

||<#FF5555>'' http://0pointer.de/public/sound-naming-spec.html''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> http://0pointer.de/public/sound-naming-spec.html

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> so lernard writes pulse audio

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> upstream guy

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> who are the others and how are they related to ubuntu

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> dunno.  Its a community spec

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> well all that can go to the mailing list

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> ok big question

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> so people submit

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> what is plan to get it included in 10.10

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> or is the for upstream?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> 10.10 if there is time

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> 7 months

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> Will there be DRM issues?  Ownership and copyright concerns?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> I'm not to squash this....

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> cc licensing

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> but what is the incentive for people to submit

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> yup, submissions need to be CC'd

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> we as a loco can't promise it will be included

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> see your stuff in an os.

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> amber: that's correct

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> the loco just sponsors the contest

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> WELL, and they could be available

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> yeah but we can't promise Canonical will include anything

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> IT*

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> We need a much lengthier discussion than we have time for here

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> the sound theme

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> if its used or not

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> there are no promises

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> we could just offer the theme

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> on line

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> then it can't be a contest

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> contest has goals

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> and winners

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> what will the winner get?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> the contest would be for review of inclusion

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> "review of inclusion"  people can do that without a contest

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> we gotta plan this out  - I like the idea

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> will the participants pay to enter?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> but who has done it up to this point?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> We are offering a path

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> well i made an action item on it

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> yeah but we can't call a path a competiton

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> competition

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> jfrorie: can you write up your idea/s and post to the team mailing list?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> +1 jcg2 more discussion

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> jfrorie, who are you talking to at Canonical?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> lets see if we can get some more guidance - I like the idea

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> connor and there appear to be two other that wont to get involved.

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> conner who?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> I think an outline or mindmap would be very helpful for the member of the loco

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> audio guy?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> hang a sec...

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> connor curran

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> ok - just want to make sure we touch all the right bases as far as Canonical is concerned

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> everyone cool with the action item i posted earlier?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> cannot recall it

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> scrollback

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> oh DX team guy work for David Barth

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> t-2

 <'''<<Verbatim(jfrorie)>>'''> sure

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> thanks jfrorie

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> not cool with that I don't know... sorry

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> well that's the action item, jim to post to maililing list

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> cool with me

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> OK.. thanks... I am cool with that

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> only reason I am wondering is the UW team has run to contests and there are a lot of i's to dot and t's to cross

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> two not to

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> okay ending now

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> noted akgraner

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> #endmeeting

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= Meeting closed at 00:16 =
== People Present ==
 * jcg2

 * _marx_

 * akgraner

 * internalkernel

 * jfrorie

 * alinuxfan

 * nameiner

 * BugeyeD

 * holstein

== Actions Recorded ==
 *  akgraner to contact facebook page founder re: control

 *  jcg2 odt format release party flyier on wiki

 *  jfrorie report to mailing list on new project "sound theme contest"