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19:10 < holstein> #startmeeting
19:10 <
Mootbot-UK> Meeting started at 23:10. The chair is holstein.
19:10 < Mootbot-UK> Commands A
vailable: [TOPIC], [PROGRESS REPORT], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
19:10 < holstein> [topic]
advocacy
19:10 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic: advocac
y
19:10 < holstein> i was going to tr
y and get out to mars hill college with someone local
19:11 < holstein> may
be talk internalkernel into it
19:11 * _marx_ goes looking at the agenda
19:11 < holstein> i was thinking we should try and get some manageable goals for advocacy
19:11 < holstein> i think we could do something up there easy enough
19:12 < holstein> maybe start emailing the list more actively about these kind of ideas
19:12 < holstein> so the non-IRC'ers can get envolved
19:12 < adam_vollrath> whoa a bot
19:13 <
adam_vollrath> does it enforce Robert's Rules of Order?
19:13 < holstein> [action] start some email threads about some advocacy ideas
19:13 < Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: start some email threads about some advocacy ideas
19:13 < holstein
> hey adam_vollrath :)
19:13 < _marx_> i agree using the mailing list may get non-IRC's more involved
19:14 < holstein> what about the facebook page?
19:14 < _marx_> hi adam_vollrath mostly it makes nice log files
19:14 < holstein> [topic] facebook page
19:14 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic: facebook page
19:14 < holstein> didnt we sa
y we would just start a new one if no contact was made by now?
19:14 < _marx_> last time we said just make a new one if we couldn't get ahold of adam*
19:15 < holstein> yeah, lets move toward that
19:15 < holstein> who was going to set one up?
19:15 < _marx_> i recall akgraner but she's not paying attention to defend herself
19:15 -!- jcg2 [jcg2@cpe-174-098-071-204.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-us-nc
19:16 < holstein> [action] email list about setting u
p a new facebook page
19:16 < Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: email list about setting up a new facebook page
19:16 <
_marx_> see jcg2 made it
19:16 < holstein> jcg2: HEY
19:16 < holstein> jcg2: i was just talking about the facebook page
19:16 < jcg2> hey, yall.. been talking about me?
19:16 < holstein> i think we have decided to just make a new one
19:16 < holstein> i tried to reach adam* as well
19:17 < jcg2> OK, works for me .. I've had no luck
19:17 < _marx_> too me that was an ungraceful fading away
19:18 < holstein> _marx_: you mean adam?
19:18 < holstein> well, he might just not check that thing anymore
19:18 < jcg2> I suspect he has some unresolved anger re: the team
19:19 < holstein
> [topic] CharLUG
19:19 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic: CharLUG
19:19 < holstein
> jcg2: you want to talk about that for a minute
19:19 < holstein> mention whatever you need to for the logs?
19:19 < jcg2> My sense is that they are no terribly active at the moment
19:20 < holstein> OH
19:20 < holstein> the lug?
19:20 < jcg2> I've gotten no res
ponse to the few queries I've sent re: the installfest they were planning
19:20 < holstein> hmmm
19:20 <
_marx_> at the moment he made the FB page?
19:20 < _marx_> oh charlug
19:20 <
_marx_> sorry
19:20 < holstein> we can talk about doing something like that over here
19:20 < holstein> for the WNCLUG
19:21 < jcg2> nominate marx for remedial reading class LOL
19:21 < holstein> seems like charlotte is a more central location though
19:21 < _marx_> if i could find a location i'd push one for pti area too
19:21 < jcg2> The LUG in Charlotte has had a tough time staying alive, it seems
19:21 < holstein> jcg2: should i action that the charlug is 'up in the air'?
19:21 < holstein> install fest, that is
19:22 < _marx_> action what can team to do build charlug
19:
22 < jcg2> I'd say we just remove it from the radar for the moment.
19:22 < jcg2> I am on their listserv and there has been no activity recently at all
19:22 < akgraner> sorry I am late
19:23 < jcg2
> It can come off the agenda as I dare say an installfest isn't a priority for them at the moment
19:23 < holstein> [action] CharLUG install fest temporarily postponed
19:23 < Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: CharLUG install fest temporarily postponed
19:23 <
akgraner> If I missed something I am supposed to do just action item me please
19:23 < jcg2> is tronyx here?
19:23 < holstein> [action] think about what the LoCo can do to help CharLUG
19:23 < Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: think about what the LoCo can do to help CharLUG
19:24 < holstein
> akgraner: did you say you wanted to make a new FB page?
19:24 < akgraner> holstein, I can
19:24 < akgraner> create an action item for me
19:24 < holstein> how about...
19:24 < holstein> [action] akgraner to oversee new facebook page
19:24 < Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: akgraner to oversee new facebook page
19:25 < jcg2
> I know I was late, but what are we going to use the FB page for?
19:25 < _marx_> send some more contact to adam* saying here's what we've done...
19:25 < _marx_> jcg2: promo of events is one
19:25 < holstein> jcg2: no plans yet
19:25 < holstein> yeah
19:25 < holstein> normal FB announcements
19:26 < _marx_> jcg2: like you could post gclug announcements there
19:26 < jcg2> May be a bit difficult, given FB's methods, to use it to promote the team.. announcements for us, yes that will work
19:26 < holstein> cwill747: was here earlier
19:26 < holstein> we were talking about the Kramden ideas
19:26 < holstein> A new advocacy opportunity with the Kramden Institute; please see this forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1507978
19:27 < holstein> i believe that can fall under that action item for emailing advocacy ideas to the list
19:28 < holstein> [topic] Discuss starting a 'meeting chair group' of members that can chair the meetings in rotation
19:28 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic: Discuss starting a 'meeting chair group' of members that can chair the meetings in rotation
19:28 <
_marx_> hopefully cwill747 will report back to mailing list on the kramden meeting
19:28 < _marx_> i'm all for it
19:28 < holstein> [action] holstein will work on setting up a 'meeting chair group' of members that can chair the meetings in rotation
19:28 < Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: holstein will work on setting up a 'meeting chair group' of members that can chair the meetings in rotation
19:28 <
_marx_> there's a bunch of wiki edits involved
19:28 < holstein> i'll email the list about that
19:29 < holstein
> and talk with _marx_ about it
19:29 < _marx_> just to keep it, the wiki, up to date
19:29 < jcg2> what is the current topic, I'm lost
19:29 < holstein> [topic] Review member positions and the job re
quirements/responsibilities in order to discuss filling open positions.
19:29 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic: Review member positions and the job requirements/responsibilities in order to discuss filling open positions.
19:29 < holstein> how about that one
19:30 < holstein> i just did that other one real quic
k since its on me really
19:30 < holstein> to email the list
19:30 < jcg2> are there positions needing filling?
19:30 < holstein> thats the question
19:30 < holstein> and if not
19:30 < akgraner
> I mentioned stepping down as team lead and contact but I am not as busy as I thought
19:30 < holstein> we can remove that
19:30 <
_marx_> akgraner: wants to retire as team contact
19:30 < holstein> cool
19:30 < holstein
> so, lets remove that one
19:31 < akgraner> so I can say on for another cycle is that is cool with everyone
19:31 < holstein> [action] remove 'Review member positions and the job requirements/responsibilities in order to discuss filling open positions' from agenda
19:31 < Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: remove 'Review member positions and the job requirements/responsibilities in order to discuss filling open positions'
                    
from agenda
19:31 < holstein
> w00t akgraner  19:31 < akgraner> however I want to mentor others to take on the leadership role
19:32 * holstein moves on
19:32 < holstein> [topic]
19:32 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic:
19:32 < holstein> [to
pic] Discuss protocol for deleting agenda items. What can one delete and when without irritation to other members
19:32 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic: Discuss protocol for deleting agenda items. What can one delete and when without irritation to other members
19:32 < holstein
> jcg2: that is yours
19:32 < holstein> what do you think?
19:32 < akgraner> what happened to cause this item to get put on the agenda?
19:32 < jcg2> just am not sure when I should simply remove an item ...
19:32 < _marx_> well all members can edit the /Meeting/Agenda wiki page
19:33 < holstein> jcg2: good question
19:33 < holstein> i think its all good in there
19:33 < _marx_> akgraner: the agenda remains the same...for months
19:33 < jcg2> I know I can but I was attempting to keep everyone posted on progress however slowly it happened...
19:33 < akgraner> I know ...
19:33 < holstein> i say go for it
19:34 < jcg2> so if I just delete an item that I think doesn't belong there, that is OK?
19:34 < _marx_> same here, we need it to be more up to date
19:34 < holstein> [action] all members can edit the /Meeting/Agenda wiki page
19:34 < Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: all members can edit the /Meeting/Agenda wiki page
19
:34 < akgraner> why can't we just just do it the way other teams do
19:34 < holstein> akgraner:
how is that?
19:34 < _marx_> jcg2: the wiki has versions
19:34 < akgraner> well instead of always listing the same stuff
19:34 < jcg2> why not tell us what that procedure is . that was the purpose of the agenda item
19:35 < akgraner> just have people add to a table the things that need to be discussed
19:35 < adam_vollrath> The agenda is in a wiki amirite? Could you email wiki revision diffs to anyone interested? Like if you "watch" a page on Mediawiki?
19:35 < akgraner> adam_vollrath, people can subscribe to the page if they want to be notified
19:36 < akgraner> one sec let me get an example
19:36 < akgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncilAgenda
19:36 < akgraner> look at this agenda
19:36 < adam_vollrath> word. If all edits produce notifications that get notice, then there's not much point in restricting writes, I'd think. Any
                       
controversial edits (hopefully rare) could be reverted or brought up for discussion.
19:36 < holstein> im into that
19:36 <
akgraner> while there isn't much there
19:36 <
jcg2> Given Amber's suggestion, the agenda needs to be cleared after each meeting, I guess
19:36 < holstein> so its new each time
19:36 < holstein
> yeah
19:36 < akgraner> it's just a table - people put their name and what they want to talk about
19:37 < holstein> i like that
19:37 < holstein> how do we get that?
19:37 < akgraner> just add a table
19:37 < akgraner> it's easy I can add it if you want
19:37 < akgraner> each agenda should be new
19:37 <
akgraner> otherwise people get bored
19:37 < holstein> do we need to vote?
19:37 < holstein> or can we just do it?
19:37 < akgraner> if it is open item then we carry it over
19:38 < akgraner> jcg2, well you clear out the information but not the table
19:39 < akgraner> Does holstein need to call a vote for this?
19:39 < holstein> doesnt seem like anyone is apposing it
19:39 < _marx_> well who does it each time?
19:39 -!- KJ4UFG [jcg2@cpe-174-098-071-204.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-us-nc
19:40 < _marx_> he
y KJ4UFG
19
:40 < holstein> we can decide at the meeting i guess
19:40 < akgraner> anyone can add to it
19:40 < holstein> but who ever is chairing can clear it
19:40 <
KJ4UFG> that's me, jcg2 ... got dropped
19:40 < holstein> i thin
k this is a great idea
19:40 < _marx_> call sign i get it :)
19:41 * holstein is going to action it
19:41 < _marx_> same thing for team reports
19:42 < a
kgraner> anyone can add to team reports as well
19:42 < holstein> [action] change the way the meeting agenda works by starting with a clean slate each time
19:42 < Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: change the way the meeting agenda works by starting with a clean slate each time
19:42 < holstein> hmmm
19:42 < holstein> yeah, thats OK
19:42 < holstein> OK one more that i see
19:43 < holstein> OH
19:43 < holstein> akgraner: your going to do that table there for us?
19:43 < akgraner> holstein, if you need help creating the table I'll help ya out
19:43 < holstein> set that up?
19:43 < akgraner> yep I can do that
19:43 < holstein> akgraner: i will
19:43 < holstein> i'll action me on it
19:43 < akgraner> action item it for me and you if you want
19:43 < holstein> and if i need you, i'll shout out
19:43 < akgraner> okie dokie
19:44 < holstein> [action] holstein to change the meeting agenda WIKI
19:44 < Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: holstein to change the meeting agenda WIKI
19:44 < holstein> [action] Implementing a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo. This could help get the word out
19:44 < Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: Implementing a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo. This could help get the word out
19:44 < holstein> OOPS
19:44 < holstein> [topic] Implementing a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo. This could help get the word out
19:44 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic: Implementing a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo. This could help get the word out
19:45 < holstein> and cwill747 is not here now
19:45 <
KJ4UFG> I like the idea ..
19:45 < akgraner> while the idea sounds good - I have some concerns about this idea
19:45 < holstein> likewise
19:45 <
KJ4UFG> how will it be funded?
19:45 < _marx_> make contact info more visible on the wiki home page
19:45 < akgraner> 1) who will pa
y postage
19:45 < akgraner> 2) we only get x number of pressed cds for free
19:45 < holstein> _marx_: can you do that?
19:46 < akgraner> lets just create a contact page
19:46 <
KJ4UFG> Is driving traffic to our wiki page a good idea?
19
:46 < akgraner> why wouldn't it be
19:47 <
KJ4UFG> don't know... that's why I asked?
19:47 < akgraner> I think the front page can be updated to reflect current projects and things
19:47 < holstein> akgraner: im fine with editing the current contact into too
19:47 < KJ4UFG
> but it is a complex URL to say the least about marketing it
19:47 < holstein> to minimise the extra pages
19:47 < akgraner> that wouldn't be to hard to change just need people to stay on top of it
19:47 < holstein> but im cool either way
19:48 < akgraner> we can create a shorted URL
19:48 < holstein> totally
19:48 < holstein> _marx_: you want to take that on?
19:49 < holstein> either a new contact page, or more visible on the main page
19:49 < _marx_> yeah i can look into it anyway
19:49 < holstein> i say, you can decide
19:49 < holstein> [action] _marx_ to look into the contact information layout on the wiki and edit or add a new page
19:49 < Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: _marx_ to look into the contact information layout on the wiki and edit or add a new page
19:50 <
_marx_> sorry i'm babysitting an 11 month old and green at that duty
19:50 < holstein> akgraner: back to the other topic
19:50 < holstein> ANYONE can request a CD from cannonical still right?
19:51 < akgraner> yes and no
19:51 < holstein> hmmm
19:51 <
akgraner> if you have requested on before you may be turned down
19:51 < holstein> i was thinking we could just make that more visible
19:51 < akgraner> one sec let me get the new rules for requesting CD's from Shipit
19:51 < holstein> i think right now, the cost is an issue
19:51 < holstein> 19:45 < akgraner> 1) who will pay postage
19:52 < akgraner> http://blog.canonical.com/?p=264
19:52 < Mootbot-UK> LINK received:
http://blog.canonical.com/?p=264
19:52 < holstein> i say we shelf this idea
19:53 < holstein> until some funding is proposed
19:53 < akgraner> We will continue to supply CDs to LoCo teams and Ubuntu members. And we hope to make CDs available to everyone who is just discovering
                  
Ubuntu. And we continue to search for additional ways to make Ubuntu and Ubuntu materials available to everyone. But we are limiting
                  
shipments to people that we think have alternative paths of getting Ubuntu. For instance,
19:53 < akgraner> * you can upgrade to the new release without a CD
19:53 < akgraner> * you can download your own CD for free
19:53 < akgraner> * you will be able to download the CD wallet artwork
19:53 < holstein> its a great idea though
19:53 <
akgraner> * becoming an Ubuntu member by contributing to Ubuntu, and thereby becoming eligible for more CDs
19:53 < akgraner> * And finally, you can purchase CDs.
19:53 < _marx_> yeah w/broadband dl's available
19:53 < akgraner> also I spoke with Jane about putting CD's in various stores - they will not send CD's fro teams to just add to retail facilities
19:54 < akgraner> the above information is from Jane Silber's announcement on the ship changes
19:54 < holstein> [action] pending further discussion, a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo will have to be taken on at a
                  later time
19:
54 < Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: pending further discussion, a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo will have to be taken
                    on at a later time
19
:55 < akgraner> we should just refer them to shipit
19:
55 < holstein> that still leaves it open
19:55 <
_marx_> yep
19:55 < holstein> akgraner: totally
19:55 < _marx_> hum, at regional sources in NC for those w
/o a broadband connection
19:55 < holstein> [action] refer NC residents to shipit for ubuntu CD's
19:55 < Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: refer NC residents to shipit for ubuntu CD's
19:55 < _marx_> s
/at/add
19:56 < holstein
> well, thats all i have...
19:56 < holstein> anyone else?
19:56 < akgraner> oh I know
19:56 < KJ4UFG> how many of us were here to participate
19:56 < _marx_> there's an installfest in VA just over the border
19:56 < akgraner> speaking of CD's I want to divid the CD's up when get them and send some to Marx
19:56 < holstein> in the meeting KJ4UFG ?
19:56 < akgraner> some to holstein
19:57 <
KJ4UFG> Yes
19:57 < holstein> _marx_ akgraner holstein KJ4UFG adam_vollrath  19:57 < holstein> i think that was everyone
19:57 < akgraner> that should allow people close to them to be able to get CD's when needed
19:57 < adam_vollrath> watup
19:57 < KJ4UFG> there shows to be a ton of folks in the channel but few said anything
19:57 < holstein> akgraner: w00t
19:57 < holstein> i'll get em in good hands
19:57 <
akgraner> KJ4UFG, that happens with all teams
19:57 < adam_vollrath> ten weeks for a CD is p rough
19:58 < akgraner> adam_vollrath, what?
19:58 < adam_vollrath> that's what I see on shipit.ubuntu.com
19:58 < holstein> so when is the next meeting?
19:58 < holstein> 2 weeks?
19:58 < akgraner> oh yeah - they come from the netherlands
19:58 <
_marx_> KJ4UFG: lurkers
19:58 < akgraner> also Ubuntu Global Jam
19:58 < KJ4UFG> hang on, guys ..
19:59 < cwill747> hey I'm around
19:59 < KJ4UFG> I need to tender my resignation as Advocacy lead.
19:59 < holstein> cwill747: cool
19:59 < akgraner> KJ4UFG, I am sorry to hear that...
19:59 < holstein> KJ4UFG: yeah?
19:59 < akgraner> anything we can do to make the job easier for you?
19:59 < holstein> everything cool?
20:00 < KJ4UFG> yep, I don't feel I've done an effective job and think you guys could do it better without me here.
20:00 * holstein disagrees
20:00 <
akgraner> KJ4UFG, I think you have done a great job
20:00 < holstein> if your too busy or something, thats cool
20:01 < holstein> KJ4UFG: how about holding off for a bit
20:01 < holstein> and maybe we can talk about it
20:01 < akgraner> heck I have days where I feel like I accomplish nothing... how can we help you? What tools and or information can we get you to help you
20:01 < holstein> i had some advocacy ideas that i talked about at the beginning
20:01 < holstein> when you werent here yet
20:01 < KJ4UFG> I think I can use my time more wisely, yall. Canocical and I don't seem to agree to a bunch of things regarding the team's responsibilities.
20:02 < akgraner> Canonical has nothing to do with LoCo teams and how they work
20:02 < akgraner> they only provide some swag for us
20:02 < akgraner> we have Community Council, and LoCo Councils for our governance
20:02 < KJ4UFG> That's one of the things I disagree with. Here we are trying to get new users for them and they want no contact with us.
20:03 < akgraner> no that is not true
20:03 <
cwill747> I mean we're really trying to get new users for all of us.
20:03 < akgraner> but if they run things then we can no longer operate as non profits
20:03 < KJ4UFG> may be but it sure seems taht way to me
20:03 < akgraner> they aren't supposed to be
20:03 < akgraner> they are the corporate sponsor for Ubuntu but we are the community
20:04 < KJ4UFG> given that amber, what is advocacy for, then
20:04 < KJ4UFG> what are we advocating?
20:04 < akgraner> to let people know they have a choice
20:04 < holstein> KJ4UFG: are you OK with waiting til next meeting at least?
20:04 < akgraner> and they aren't locked into windows or osx
20:05 < holstein> just so i can go ahead and end the meeting?
20:05 < KJ4UFG> holstein: yes
20:05 < holstein> COOL
20:05 < holstein> SO next meeting in 2 weeks?
20:05 < akgraner> sure
20:05 <
cwill747> sounds good
20:05 <
_marx_> ditto
20:06 < holstein
> [aciton] next meeting August 25th 7pm EST in #ubuntu-us-nc
20:06 < holstein> [action] next meeting August 25th 7pm EST in #ubuntu-us-nc
20:06 < Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: next meeting August 25th 7pm EST in #ubuntu-us-nc
20:06 < holstein> and someone will chair
20:06 < holstein
> i'll try and really get that rotation worked out
20:07 < holstein> by then
20:07 < cwill747> So I feel bad that I brought up a couple things and then had to run out and couldn't address them
20:07 < cwill747> feel free to end the meeting
20:08 < cwill747> but I thought if some people are gonna hang for a minute, I'll talk about what I missed
20:08 < holstein> #endmeeting
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Meeting opened by holstein at 23:10 =
 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [topic] ad
vocacy

==
advocacy ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i was going to tr
y and get out to mars hill college with someone local

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> ma
ybe talk internalkernel into it

* '''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>''' goes looking at the agenda

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> i was thinking we should try and get some manageable goals for advocacy

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> i think we could do something up there easy enough

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> maybe start emailing the list more actively about these kind of ideas

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> so the non-IRC'ers can get envolved

 <'''<<Verbatim(
adam_vollrath)>>'''> whoa a bot

 <'''<<Verbatim(
adam_vollrath)>>'''> does it enforce Robert's Rules of Order?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> [action] start some email threads about some advocacy ideas

||<#FF5555>'' start some email threads about some ad
vocacy ideas''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> hey adam_vollrath :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> i agree using the mailing list may get non-IRC's more involved

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> what about the facebook page?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> hi adam_vollrath mostly it makes nice log files

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> [topic] facebook page

== facebook
page ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> didnt we say we would just start a new one i
f no contact was made by now?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> last time we said just make a new one if we couldn't get ahold of adam*

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> yeah, lets move toward that

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> who was going to set one up?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> i recall akgraner but she's not paying attention to defend herself

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [action] email list about setting up a new facebook page

||<#FF
5555>'' email list about setting up a new facebook page''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> see jcg2 made it

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> jcg2: HEY

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> jcg2: i was just talking about the facebook page

 <'''<<Verbatim(
jcg2)>>'''> hey, yall.. been talking about me?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> i think we have decided to just make a new one

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> i tried to reach adam* as well

 <'''<<Verbatim(
jcg2)>>'''> OK, works for me .. I've had no luck

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> too me that was an ungraceful fading away

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> _marx_: you mean adam?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> well, he might just not check that thing anymore

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> I suspect he has some unresolved anger re
: the team

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> [topic] CharLUG

==
CharLUG ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> jcg2: you want to talk about that for a minute

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> mention whatever you need to for the logs?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
jcg2)>>'''> My sense is that they are no terribly active at the moment

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> OH

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> the lug?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg2)>>'''> I've gotten no response to the few queries I've sent re
: the installfest they were planning

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> hmmm

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> at the moment he made the FB page?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> oh charlug

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> sorry

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> we can talk about doing something like that over here

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> for the WNCLUG

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg
2)>>'''> nominate marx for remedial reading class LOL

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> seems like charlotte is a more central location though

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> if i could find a location i'd push one for pti area too

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg
2)>>'''> The LUG in Charlotte has had a tough time staying alive, it seems

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> jcg2: should i action that the charlug is 'up in the air'?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> install fest, that is

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> action what can team to do build charlug

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg
2)>>'''> I'd say we just remove it from the radar for the moment.

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg
2)>>'''> I am on their listserv and there has been no activity recently at all

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> sorry I am late

 <'''<<Verbatim(
jcg2)>>'''> It can come off the agenda as I dare say an installfest isn't a priority for them at the moment

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> [action] CharLUG install fest temporarily postponed

||<#FF5555>''
CharLUG install fest temporarily postponed''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> If I missed something I am supposed to do just action item me please

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg
2)>>'''> is tronyx here?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> [action] think about what the LoCo can do to help CharLUG

||<#FF5555>''
think about what the LoCo can do to help CharLUG''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> akgraner: did you say you wanted to make a new FB page?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> holstein, I can

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> create an action item for me

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> how about...

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [action] akgraner to oversee new facebook page

||<#FF5555>'' akgraner to oversee new facebook page''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg
2)>>'''> I know I was late, but what are we going to use the FB page for?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> send some more contact to adam* saying here's what we've done...

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> jcg2: promo of events is one

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> jcg2: no plans yet

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> yeah

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> normal FB announcements

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> jcg2: like you could post gclug announcements there

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg
2)>>'''> May be a bit difficult, given FB's methods, to use it to promote the team.. announcements for us, yes that will work

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> cwill747: was here earlier

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> we were talking about the Kramden ideas

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> A new advocacy opportunity with the Kramden Institute; please see this forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1507978

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> i believe that can fall under that action item for emailing advocacy ideas to the list

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> [topic] Discuss starting a 'meeting chair group' of members that can chair the meetings in rotation

== Discuss starting a 'meeting chair grou
p' of members that can chair the meetings in rotation ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> hopefully cwill747 will report back to mailing list on the kramden meeting

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> i'm all for it

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> [action] holstein will work on setting up a 'meeting chair group' of members that can chair the meetings in rotation

||<#FF5555>''
holstein will work on setting up a 'meeting chair group' of members that can chair the meetings in rotation''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> there's a bunch of wiki edits involved

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i'll email the list about that

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> and talk with _marx_ about it

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> just to keep it, the wiki, up to date

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg
2)>>'''> what is the current topic, I'm lost

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [topic] Review member positions and the
job requirements/responsibilities in order to discuss filling open positions.

== Review member positions and the job requirements/responsibilities in order to discuss filling open positions. ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> how about that one

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i just did that other one real quick since its on me really

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> to email the list

 <'''<<Verbatim(j
cg2)>>'''> are there positions needing filling?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> thats the
question

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> and i
f not

 <'''<<Verbatim(a
kgraner)>>'''> I mentioned stepping down as team lead and contact but I am not as busy as I thought

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> akgraner: wants to retire as team contact

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> we can remove that

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> cool

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> so, lets remove that one

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> so I can say on for another cycle is that is cool with everyone

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> [action] remove 'Review member positions and the job requirements/responsibilities in order to discuss filling open positions' from agenda

||<#FF5555>'' remo
ve 'Review member positions and the job requirements/responsibilities in order to discuss filling open positions' from agenda''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> w00t akgraner

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> however I want to mentor others to take on the leadership role

* '''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>''' moves on

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> [topic]

== ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [t
opic] Discuss protocol for deleting agenda items. What can one delete and when without irritation to other members

==
Discuss protocol for deleting agenda items. What can one delete and when without irritation to other members ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> jcg2: that is yours

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> what do you think?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> what happened to cause this item to get put on the agenda?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jcg
2)>>'''> just am not sure when I should simply remove an item ...

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> well all members can edit the /Meeting/Agenda wiki page

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> jcg2: good question

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> i think its all good in there

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> akgraner: the agenda remains the same...for months

 <'''<<Verbatim(
jcg2)>>'''> I know I can but I was attempting to keep everyone posted on progress however slowly it happened...

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> I know ...

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> i say go for it

 <'''<<Verbatim(
jcg2)>>'''> so if I just delete an item that I think doesn't belong there, that is OK?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> same here, we need it to be more up to date

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> [action] all members can edit the /Meeting/Agenda wiki page

||<#FF5555>''
all members can edit the /Meeting/Agenda wiki page''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> why can't we just just do it the way other teams do

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> akgraner
: how is that?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> jcg2: the wiki has versions

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> well instead of always listing the same stuff

 <'''<<Verbatim(
jcg2)>>'''> why not tell us what that procedure is . that was the purpose of the agenda item

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> just have people add to a table the things that need to be discussed

 <'''<<Verbatim(
adam_vollrath)>>'''> The agenda is in a wiki amirite? Could you email wiki revision diffs to anyone interested? Like if you "watch" a page on Mediawiki?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> adam_vollrath, people can subscribe to the page if they want to be notified

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> one sec let me get an example

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncilAgenda

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> look at this agenda

 <'''<<Verbatim(
adam_vollrath)>>'''> word. If all edits produce notifications that get notice, then there's not much point in restricting writes, I'd think. Any controversial edits (hopefully rare) could be reverted or brought up for discussion.

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> im into that

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> while there isn't much there

 <'''<<Verbatim(
jcg2)>>'''> Given Amber's suggestion, the agenda needs to be cleared after each meeting, I guess

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> so its new each time

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> yeah

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> it's just a table - people put their name and what they want to talk about

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> i like that

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> how do we get that?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> just add a table

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> it's easy I can add it if you want

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> each agenda should be new

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> otherwise people get bored

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> do we need to vote?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> or can we just do it?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> if it is open item then we carry it over

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> jcg2, well you clear out the information but not the table

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> Does holstein need to call a vote for this?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> doesnt seem like anyone is apposing it

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> well who does it each time?

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> hey
KJ4UFG

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> we can decide at the meeting i guess

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> an
yone can add to it

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> but who ever is chairing can clear it

 <'''<<Verbatim(
KJ4UFG)>>'''> that's me, jcg2 ... got dropped

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i think this is a great idea

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> call sign i get it
:)

 * '''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>''' is going to action it

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> same thing for team reports

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> anyone can add to team reports as well

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [action] change the way the meeting agenda works by starting with a clean slate each time

||<#FF5555>'' change the way the meeting agenda works by starting with a clean slate each time''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> hmmm

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> yeah, thats OK

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> OK one more that i see

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> OH

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> akgraner: your going to do that table there for us?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> holstein, if you need help creating the table I'll help ya out

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> set that up?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> yep I can do that

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> akgraner: i will

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i'll action me on it

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> action item it for me and you if you want

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> and if i need you, i'll shout out

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> okie dokie

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [action] holstein to change the meeting agenda WIKI

||<#FF5555>'' holstein to change the meeting agenda WIKI''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [action] Implementing a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo. This could help get the word out

||<#FF5555>'' Implementing a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo. This could help get the word out''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> OOPS

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [topic] Implementing a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo. This could help get the word out

== Implementing a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo. This could help get the word out ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> and cwill7
47 is not here now

 <'''<<Verbatim(
KJ4UFG)>>'''> I like the idea ..

 <'''<<Verbatim(a
kgraner)>>'''> while the idea sounds good - I have some concerns about this idea

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> li
kewise

 <'''<<Verbatim(
KJ4UFG)>>'''> how will it be funded?

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> ma
ke contact info more visible on the wiki home page

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''>
1) who will pay postage

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> 2) we only get x number of pressed cds for free

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> _marx_
: can you do that?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> lets just create a contact page

 <'''<<Verbatim(
KJ4UFG)>>'''> Is driving traffic to our wiki page a good idea?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> why wouldn't it be

 <'''<<Verbatim(
KJ4UFG)>>'''> don't know... that's why I asked?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> I think the
front page can be updated to reflect current projects and things

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> a
kgraner: im fine with editing the current contact into too

 <'''<<Verbatim(
KJ4UFG)>>'''> but it is a complex URL to say the least about marketing it

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> to minimise the extra pages

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> that wouldn't be to hard to change just need people to stay on top of it

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> but im cool either way

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> we can create a shorted URL

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> totally

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> _marx_: you want to take that on?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> either a new contact page, or more visible on the main page

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> yeah i can look into it anyway

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> i say, you can decide

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> [action] _marx_ to look into the contact information layout on the wiki and edit or add a new page

||<#FF5555>''
_marx_ to look into the contact information layout on the wiki and edit or add a new page''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> sorry i'm babysitting an 11 month old and green at that duty

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> akgraner
: back to the other topic

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> ANYONE can request a CD from cannonical still right?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> yes and no

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> hmmm

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> if you have requested on before you may be turned down

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> i was thinking we could just make that more visible

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> one sec let me get the new rules for requesting CD's from Shipit

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> i think right now, the cost is an issue

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> 19:45 < akgraner> 1) who will pay postage

||<#FF
5555>'' http://blog.canonical.com/?p=264''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''>
http://blog.canonical.com/?p=264

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> i say we shelf this idea

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> until some funding is proposed

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> We will continue to supply CDs to LoCo teams and Ubuntu members. And we hope to make CDs available to everyone who is just discovering Ubuntu. And we continue to search for additional ways to make Ubuntu and Ubuntu materials available to everyone. But we are limiting shipments to people that we think have alternative paths of getting Ubuntu. For instance,

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> * you can upgrade to the new release without a CD

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> * you can download your own CD for free

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> * you will be able to download the CD wallet artwork

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> * becoming an Ubuntu member by contributing to Ubuntu, and thereby becoming eligible for more CDs

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> its a great idea though

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> * And finally, you can purchase CDs.

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> yeah w/broadband dl's available

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> also I spoke with Jane about putting CD's in various stores - they will not send CD's fro teams to just add to retail facilities

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> the above information is from Jane Silber's announcement on the ship changes

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> [action] pending further discussion, a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo will have to be taken on at a later time

||<#FF
5555>'' pending further discussion, a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo will have to be taken on at a later time''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> we should just refer them to shipit

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> that still leaves it open

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> yep

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> akgraner
: totally

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> hum, at regional sources in NC for those w/o a broadband connection

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [action] refer NC residents to shipit for ubuntu CD's

||<#FF
5555>'' refer NC residents to shipit for ubuntu CD's''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> s/at/add

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> well, thats all i have...

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> anyone else?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> oh I know

 <'''<<Verbatim(
KJ4UFG)>>'''> how many of us were here to participate

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> there's an installfest in VA just over the border

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> speaking of CD's I want to divid the CD's up when get them and send some to Marx

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> in the meeting KJ4UFG ?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> some to holstein

 <'''<<Verbatim(
KJ4UFG)>>'''> Yes

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> _marx_ akgraner holstein KJ4UFG adam_vollrath

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> i think that was everyone

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> that should allow people close to them to be able to get CD's when needed

 <'''<<Verbatim(
adam_vollrath)>>'''> watup

 <'''<<Verbatim(
KJ4UFG)>>'''> there shows to be a ton of folks in the channel but few said anything

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> akgraner: w00t

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i'll get em in good hands

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> KJ4UFG, that happens with all teams

 <'''<<Verbatim(
adam_vollrath)>>'''> ten weeks for a CD is p rough

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> adam_vollrath, what?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
adam_vollrath)>>'''> that's what I see on shipit.ubuntu.com

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> so when is the next meeting?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> oh yeah - they come from the netherlands

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> 2 weeks?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> KJ4UFG: lurkers

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> also Ubuntu Global Jam

 <'''<<Verbatim(
KJ4UFG)>>'''> hang on, guys ..

 <'''<<Verbatim(
cwill747)>>'''> hey I'm around

 <'''<<Verbatim(
KJ4UFG)>>'''> I need to tender my resignation as Advocacy lead.

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> cwill747: cool

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> KJ4UFG, I am sorry to hear that...

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> KJ4UFG: yeah?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> anything we can do to make the job easier for you?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> everything cool?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
KJ4UFG)>>'''> yep, I don't feel I've done an effective job and think you guys could do it better without me here.

* '''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>''' disagrees

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> KJ4UFG, I think you have done a great job

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> if your too busy or something, thats cool

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> KJ4UFG: how about holding off for a bit

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> and maybe we can talk about it

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> heck I have days where I feel like I accomplish nothing... how can we help you? What tools and or information can we get you to help you

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> i had some advocacy ideas that i talked about at the beginning

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> when you werent here yet

 <'''<<Verbatim(
KJ4UFG)>>'''> I think I can use my time more wisely, yall. Canocical and I don't seem to agree to a bunch of things regarding the team's responsibilities.

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> Canonical has nothing to do with LoCo teams and how they work

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> they only provide some swag for us

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> we have Community Council, and LoCo Councils for our governance

 <'''<<Verbatim(
KJ4UFG)>>'''> That's one of the things I disagree with. Here we are trying to get new users for them and they want no contact with us.

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> no that is not true

 <'''<<Verbatim(
cwill747)>>'''> I mean we're really trying to get new users for all of us.

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> but if they run things then we can no longer operate as non profits

 <'''<<Verbatim(
KJ4UFG)>>'''> may be but it sure seems taht way to me

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> they aren't supposed to be

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> they are the corporate sponsor for Ubuntu but we are the community

 <'''<<Verbatim(
KJ4UFG)>>'''> given that amber, what is advocacy for, then

 <'''<<Verbatim(
KJ4UFG)>>'''> what are we advocating?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> to let people know they have a choice

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> KJ4UFG: are you OK with waiting til next meeting at least?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> and they aren't locked into windows or osx

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> just so i can go ahead and end the meeting?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
KJ4UFG)>>'''> holstein: yes

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> COOL

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> SO next meeting in 2 weeks?

 <'''<<Verbatim(
akgraner)>>'''> sure

 <'''<<Verbatim(
cwill747)>>'''> sounds good

 <'''<<Verbatim(
_marx_)>>'''> ditto

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> [aciton] next meeting August 25th 7pm EST in #ubuntu-us-nc

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> [action] next meeting August 25th 7pm EST in #ubuntu-us-nc

||<#FF5555>''
next meeting August 25th 7pm EST in #ubuntu-us-nc''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> and someone will chair

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> i'll try and really get that rotation worked out

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''
> by then

 <'''<<Verbatim(
cwill747)>>'''> So I feel bad that I brought up a couple things and then had to run out and couldn't address them

 <'''<<Verbatim(
cwill747)>>'''> feel free to end the meeting

 <'''<<Verbatim(cwill747)>>'''> but I thought if some people are gonna hang for a minute, I'll talk about what I missed

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> #endmeeting

----
= Meeting closed at 0
0:08 =
== People Present ==
 * holstein

 * _marx_

 * adam_vollrath

 * jcg2

 * akgraner

 * KJ4UFG

 *
cwill747

== Actions Recorded ==
 * start some email threads about some advocacy ideas

 * email list about setting up a new facebook page

 * CharLUG install fest temporarily postponed

 * think about what the LoCo can do to help CharLUG

 * akgraner to oversee new facebook page

 * holstein will work on setting up a 'meeting chair group' of members that can chair the meetings in rotation

 * remove 'Review member positions and the job requirements/responsibilities in order to discuss filling open positions' from agenda

 * all members can edit the /Meeting/Agenda wiki page

 * change the way the meeting agenda works by starting with a clean slate each time

 * holstein to change the meeting agenda W
IKI

 * Implementing a system
for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo. This could help get the word out

 * _marx_ to look into the contact information layout on the wiki and edit or add a new
page

 * pendi
ng further discussion, a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo will have to be taken on at a later time

 * refer NC residents to shipit for ubuntu CD's

 * next meeting August
25th 7pm EST in #ubuntu-us-nc

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19:10 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with Mootbot-UK 19:10 <Mootbot-UK> Meeting started at 23:10. The chair is holstein. 19:10 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: advocacy 19:13 <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: start some email threads about some advocacy ideas 19:14 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: facebook page 19:16 <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: email list about setting up a new facebook page 19:19 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: CharLUG 19:23 <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: CharLUG install fest temporarily postponed 19:23 <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: think about what the LoCo can do to help CharLUG 19:24 <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: akgraner to oversee new facebook page 19:28 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: Discuss starting a 'meeting chair group' of members that can chair the meetings in rotation 19:28 <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: holstein will work on setting up a 'meeting chair group' of members that can chair the meetings in rotation 19:29 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: Review member positions and the job requirements/responsibilities in order to discuss filling open positions. 19:31 <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: remove 'Review member positions and the job requirements/responsibilities in order to discuss filling open positions'

  • from agenda

19:32 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: 19:32 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: Discuss protocol for deleting agenda items. What can one delete and when without irritation to other members 19:34 <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: all members can edit the /Meeting/Agenda wiki page 19:42 <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: change the way the meeting agenda works by starting with a clean slate each time 19:44 <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: holstein to change the meeting agenda WIKI 19:44 <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: Implementing a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo. This could help get the word out 19:44 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: Implementing a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo. This could help get the word out 19:49 <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: _marx_ to look into the contact information layout on the wiki and edit or add a new page 19:52 <Mootbot-UK> LINK received: http://blog.canonical.com/?p=264 19:54 <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: pending further discussion, a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo will have to be taken on

  • at a later time

19:55 <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: refer NC residents to shipit for ubuntu CD's 20:06 <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: next meeting August 25th 7pm EST in #ubuntu-us-nc 20:08 <Mootbot-UK> Meeting finished at 00:08. 20:08 <Mootbot-UK> Logs available at http://mootbot.ubuntu-uk.org/

Log

Meeting opened by holstein at 23:10

  • <holstein> [topic] advocacy

advocacy

  • <holstein> i was going to try and get out to mars hill college with someone local

    <holstein> maybe talk internalkernel into it

  • _marx_ goes looking at the agenda

    <holstein> i was thinking we should try and get some manageable goals for advocacy

    <holstein> i think we could do something up there easy enough

    <holstein> maybe start emailing the list more actively about these kind of ideas

    <holstein> so the non-IRC'ers can get envolved

    <adam_vollrath> whoa a bot

    <adam_vollrath> does it enforce Robert's Rules of Order?

    <holstein> [action] start some email threads about some advocacy ideas

start some email threads about some advocacy ideas

  • <holstein> hey adam_vollrath Smile :)

    <_marx_> i agree using the mailing list may get non-IRC's more involved

    <holstein> what about the facebook page?

    <_marx_> hi adam_vollrath mostly it makes nice log files

    <holstein> [topic] facebook page

facebook page

  • <holstein> didnt we say we would just start a new one if no contact was made by now?

    <_marx_> last time we said just make a new one if we couldn't get ahold of adam*

    <holstein> yeah, lets move toward that

    <holstein> who was going to set one up?

    <_marx_> i recall akgraner but she's not paying attention to defend herself

    <holstein> [action] email list about setting up a new facebook page

email list about setting up a new facebook page

  • <_marx_> see jcg2 made it

    <holstein> jcg2: HEY

    <holstein> jcg2: i was just talking about the facebook page

    <jcg2> hey, yall.. been talking about me?

    <holstein> i think we have decided to just make a new one

    <holstein> i tried to reach adam* as well

    <jcg2> OK, works for me .. I've had no luck

    <_marx_> too me that was an ungraceful fading away

    <holstein> _marx_: you mean adam?

    <holstein> well, he might just not check that thing anymore

    <jcg2> I suspect he has some unresolved anger re: the team

    <holstein> [topic] CharLUG

CharLUG

  • <holstein> jcg2: you want to talk about that for a minute

    <holstein> mention whatever you need to for the logs?

    <jcg2> My sense is that they are no terribly active at the moment

    <holstein> OH

    <holstein> the lug?

    <jcg2> I've gotten no response to the few queries I've sent re: the installfest they were planning

    <holstein> hmmm

    <_marx_> at the moment he made the FB page?

    <_marx_> oh charlug

    <_marx_> sorry

    <holstein> we can talk about doing something like that over here

    <holstein> for the WNCLUG

    <jcg2> nominate marx for remedial reading class LOL

    <holstein> seems like charlotte is a more central location though

    <_marx_> if i could find a location i'd push one for pti area too

    <jcg2> The LUG in Charlotte has had a tough time staying alive, it seems

    <holstein> jcg2: should i action that the charlug is 'up in the air'?

    <holstein> install fest, that is

    <_marx_> action what can team to do build charlug

    <jcg2> I'd say we just remove it from the radar for the moment.

    <jcg2> I am on their listserv and there has been no activity recently at all

    <akgraner> sorry I am late

    <jcg2> It can come off the agenda as I dare say an installfest isn't a priority for them at the moment

    <holstein> [action] CharLUG install fest temporarily postponed

CharLUG install fest temporarily postponed

  • <akgraner> If I missed something I am supposed to do just action item me please

    <jcg2> is tronyx here?

    <holstein> [action] think about what the LoCo can do to help CharLUG

think about what the LoCo can do to help CharLUG

  • <holstein> akgraner: did you say you wanted to make a new FB page?

    <akgraner> holstein, I can

    <akgraner> create an action item for me

    <holstein> how about...

    <holstein> [action] akgraner to oversee new facebook page

akgraner to oversee new facebook page

  • <jcg2> I know I was late, but what are we going to use the FB page for?

    <_marx_> send some more contact to adam* saying here's what we've done...

    <_marx_> jcg2: promo of events is one

    <holstein> jcg2: no plans yet

    <holstein> yeah

    <holstein> normal FB announcements

    <_marx_> jcg2: like you could post gclug announcements there

    <jcg2> May be a bit difficult, given FB's methods, to use it to promote the team.. announcements for us, yes that will work

    <holstein> cwill747: was here earlier

    <holstein> we were talking about the Kramden ideas

    <holstein> A new advocacy opportunity with the Kramden Institute; please see this forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1507978

    <holstein> i believe that can fall under that action item for emailing advocacy ideas to the list

    <holstein> [topic] Discuss starting a 'meeting chair group' of members that can chair the meetings in rotation

Discuss starting a 'meeting chair group' of members that can chair the meetings in rotation

  • <_marx_> hopefully cwill747 will report back to mailing list on the kramden meeting

    <_marx_> i'm all for it

    <holstein> [action] holstein will work on setting up a 'meeting chair group' of members that can chair the meetings in rotation

holstein will work on setting up a 'meeting chair group' of members that can chair the meetings in rotation

  • <_marx_> there's a bunch of wiki edits involved

    <holstein> i'll email the list about that

    <holstein> and talk with _marx_ about it

    <_marx_> just to keep it, the wiki, up to date

    <jcg2> what is the current topic, I'm lost

    <holstein> [topic] Review member positions and the job requirements/responsibilities in order to discuss filling open positions.

Review member positions and the job requirements/responsibilities in order to discuss filling open positions.

  • <holstein> how about that one

    <holstein> i just did that other one real quick since its on me really

    <holstein> to email the list

    <jcg2> are there positions needing filling?

    <holstein> thats the question

    <holstein> and if not

    <akgraner> I mentioned stepping down as team lead and contact but I am not as busy as I thought

    <_marx_> akgraner: wants to retire as team contact

    <holstein> we can remove that

    <holstein> cool

    <holstein> so, lets remove that one

    <akgraner> so I can say on for another cycle is that is cool with everyone

    <holstein> [action] remove 'Review member positions and the job requirements/responsibilities in order to discuss filling open positions' from agenda

remove 'Review member positions and the job requirements/responsibilities in order to discuss filling open positions' from agenda

  • <holstein> w00t akgraner

    <akgraner> however I want to mentor others to take on the leadership role

  • holstein moves on

    <holstein> [topic]

  • <holstein> [topic] Discuss protocol for deleting agenda items. What can one delete and when without irritation to other members

Discuss protocol for deleting agenda items. What can one delete and when without irritation to other members

  • <holstein> jcg2: that is yours

    <holstein> what do you think?

    <akgraner> what happened to cause this item to get put on the agenda?

    <jcg2> just am not sure when I should simply remove an item ...

    <_marx_> well all members can edit the /Meeting/Agenda wiki page

    <holstein> jcg2: good question

    <holstein> i think its all good in there

    <_marx_> akgraner: the agenda remains the same...for months

    <jcg2> I know I can but I was attempting to keep everyone posted on progress however slowly it happened...

    <akgraner> I know ...

    <holstein> i say go for it

    <jcg2> so if I just delete an item that I think doesn't belong there, that is OK?

    <_marx_> same here, we need it to be more up to date

    <holstein> [action] all members can edit the /Meeting/Agenda wiki page

all members can edit the /Meeting/Agenda wiki page

  • <akgraner> why can't we just just do it the way other teams do

    <holstein> akgraner: how is that?

    <_marx_> jcg2: the wiki has versions

    <akgraner> well instead of always listing the same stuff

    <jcg2> why not tell us what that procedure is . that was the purpose of the agenda item

    <akgraner> just have people add to a table the things that need to be discussed

    <adam_vollrath> The agenda is in a wiki amirite? Could you email wiki revision diffs to anyone interested? Like if you "watch" a page on Mediawiki?

    <akgraner> adam_vollrath, people can subscribe to the page if they want to be notified

    <akgraner> one sec let me get an example

    <akgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncilAgenda

    <akgraner> look at this agenda

    <adam_vollrath> word. If all edits produce notifications that get notice, then there's not much point in restricting writes, I'd think. Any controversial edits (hopefully rare) could be reverted or brought up for discussion.

    <holstein> im into that

    <akgraner> while there isn't much there

    <jcg2> Given Amber's suggestion, the agenda needs to be cleared after each meeting, I guess

    <holstein> so its new each time

    <holstein> yeah

    <akgraner> it's just a table - people put their name and what they want to talk about

    <holstein> i like that

    <holstein> how do we get that?

    <akgraner> just add a table

    <akgraner> it's easy I can add it if you want

    <akgraner> each agenda should be new

    <akgraner> otherwise people get bored

    <holstein> do we need to vote?

    <holstein> or can we just do it?

    <akgraner> if it is open item then we carry it over

    <akgraner> jcg2, well you clear out the information but not the table

    <akgraner> Does holstein need to call a vote for this?

    <holstein> doesnt seem like anyone is apposing it

    <_marx_> well who does it each time?

    <_marx_> hey KJ4UFG

    <holstein> we can decide at the meeting i guess

    <akgraner> anyone can add to it

    <holstein> but who ever is chairing can clear it

    <KJ4UFG> that's me, jcg2 ... got dropped

    <holstein> i think this is a great idea

    <_marx_> call sign i get it Smile :)

  • holstein is going to action it

    <_marx_> same thing for team reports

    <akgraner> anyone can add to team reports as well

    <holstein> [action] change the way the meeting agenda works by starting with a clean slate each time

change the way the meeting agenda works by starting with a clean slate each time

  • <holstein> hmmm

    <holstein> yeah, thats OK

    <holstein> OK one more that i see

    <holstein> OH

    <holstein> akgraner: your going to do that table there for us?

    <akgraner> holstein, if you need help creating the table I'll help ya out

    <holstein> set that up?

    <akgraner> yep I can do that

    <holstein> akgraner: i will

    <holstein> i'll action me on it

    <akgraner> action item it for me and you if you want

    <holstein> and if i need you, i'll shout out

    <akgraner> okie dokie

    <holstein> [action] holstein to change the meeting agenda WIKI

holstein to change the meeting agenda WIKI

  • <holstein> [action] Implementing a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo. This could help get the word out

Implementing a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo. This could help get the word out

  • <holstein> OOPS

    <holstein> [topic] Implementing a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo. This could help get the word out

Implementing a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo. This could help get the word out

  • <holstein> and cwill747 is not here now

    <KJ4UFG> I like the idea ..

    <akgraner> while the idea sounds good - I have some concerns about this idea

    <holstein> likewise

    <KJ4UFG> how will it be funded?

    <_marx_> make contact info more visible on the wiki home page

    <akgraner> 1) who will pay postage

    <akgraner> 2) we only get x number of pressed cds for free

    <holstein> _marx_: can you do that?

    <akgraner> lets just create a contact page

    <KJ4UFG> Is driving traffic to our wiki page a good idea?

    <akgraner> why wouldn't it be

    <KJ4UFG> don't know... that's why I asked?

    <akgraner> I think the front page can be updated to reflect current projects and things

    <holstein> akgraner: im fine with editing the current contact into too

    <KJ4UFG> but it is a complex URL to say the least about marketing it

    <holstein> to minimise the extra pages

    <akgraner> that wouldn't be to hard to change just need people to stay on top of it

    <holstein> but im cool either way

    <akgraner> we can create a shorted URL

    <holstein> totally

    <holstein> _marx_: you want to take that on?

    <holstein> either a new contact page, or more visible on the main page

    <_marx_> yeah i can look into it anyway

    <holstein> i say, you can decide

    <holstein> [action] _marx_ to look into the contact information layout on the wiki and edit or add a new page

_marx_ to look into the contact information layout on the wiki and edit or add a new page

  • <_marx_> sorry i'm babysitting an 11 month old and green at that duty

    <holstein> akgraner: back to the other topic

    <holstein> ANYONE can request a CD from cannonical still right?

    <akgraner> yes and no

    <holstein> hmmm

    <akgraner> if you have requested on before you may be turned down

    <holstein> i was thinking we could just make that more visible

    <akgraner> one sec let me get the new rules for requesting CD's from Shipit

    <holstein> i think right now, the cost is an issue

    <holstein> 19:45 < akgraner> 1) who will pay postage

  • <akgraner> http://blog.canonical.com/?p=264

    <holstein> i say we shelf this idea

    <holstein> until some funding is proposed

    <akgraner> We will continue to supply CDs to LoCo teams and Ubuntu members. And we hope to make CDs available to everyone who is just discovering Ubuntu. And we continue to search for additional ways to make Ubuntu and Ubuntu materials available to everyone. But we are limiting shipments to people that we think have alternative paths of getting Ubuntu. For instance,

    <akgraner> * you can upgrade to the new release without a CD

    <akgraner> * you can download your own CD for free

    <akgraner> * you will be able to download the CD wallet artwork

    <akgraner> * becoming an Ubuntu member by contributing to Ubuntu, and thereby becoming eligible for more CDs

    <holstein> its a great idea though

    <akgraner> * And finally, you can purchase CDs.

    <_marx_> yeah w/broadband dl's available

    <akgraner> also I spoke with Jane about putting CD's in various stores - they will not send CD's fro teams to just add to retail facilities

    <akgraner> the above information is from Jane Silber's announcement on the ship changes

    <holstein> [action] pending further discussion, a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo will have to be taken on at a later time

pending further discussion, a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo will have to be taken on at a later time

  • <akgraner> we should just refer them to shipit

    <holstein> that still leaves it open

    <_marx_> yep

    <holstein> akgraner: totally

    <_marx_> hum, at regional sources in NC for those w/o a broadband connection

    <holstein> [action] refer NC residents to shipit for ubuntu CD's

refer NC residents to shipit for ubuntu CD's

  • <_marx_> s/at/add

    <holstein> well, thats all i have...

    <holstein> anyone else?

    <akgraner> oh I know

    <KJ4UFG> how many of us were here to participate

    <_marx_> there's an installfest in VA just over the border

    <akgraner> speaking of CD's I want to divid the CD's up when get them and send some to Marx

    <holstein> in the meeting KJ4UFG ?

    <akgraner> some to holstein

    <KJ4UFG> Yes

    <holstein> _marx_ akgraner holstein KJ4UFG adam_vollrath

    <holstein> i think that was everyone

    <akgraner> that should allow people close to them to be able to get CD's when needed

    <adam_vollrath> watup

    <KJ4UFG> there shows to be a ton of folks in the channel but few said anything

    <holstein> akgraner: w00t

    <holstein> i'll get em in good hands

    <akgraner> KJ4UFG, that happens with all teams

    <adam_vollrath> ten weeks for a CD is p rough

    <akgraner> adam_vollrath, what?

    <adam_vollrath> that's what I see on shipit.ubuntu.com

    <holstein> so when is the next meeting?

    <akgraner> oh yeah - they come from the netherlands

    <holstein> 2 weeks?

    <_marx_> KJ4UFG: lurkers

    <akgraner> also Ubuntu Global Jam

    <KJ4UFG> hang on, guys ..

    <cwill747> hey I'm around

    <KJ4UFG> I need to tender my resignation as Advocacy lead.

    <holstein> cwill747: cool

    <akgraner> KJ4UFG, I am sorry to hear that...

    <holstein> KJ4UFG: yeah?

    <akgraner> anything we can do to make the job easier for you?

    <holstein> everything cool?

    <KJ4UFG> yep, I don't feel I've done an effective job and think you guys could do it better without me here.

  • holstein disagrees

    <akgraner> KJ4UFG, I think you have done a great job

    <holstein> if your too busy or something, thats cool

    <holstein> KJ4UFG: how about holding off for a bit

    <holstein> and maybe we can talk about it

    <akgraner> heck I have days where I feel like I accomplish nothing... how can we help you? What tools and or information can we get you to help you

    <holstein> i had some advocacy ideas that i talked about at the beginning

    <holstein> when you werent here yet

    <KJ4UFG> I think I can use my time more wisely, yall. Canocical and I don't seem to agree to a bunch of things regarding the team's responsibilities.

    <akgraner> Canonical has nothing to do with LoCo teams and how they work

    <akgraner> they only provide some swag for us

    <akgraner> we have Community Council, and LoCo Councils for our governance

    <KJ4UFG> That's one of the things I disagree with. Here we are trying to get new users for them and they want no contact with us.

    <akgraner> no that is not true

    <cwill747> I mean we're really trying to get new users for all of us.

    <akgraner> but if they run things then we can no longer operate as non profits

    <KJ4UFG> may be but it sure seems taht way to me

    <akgraner> they aren't supposed to be

    <akgraner> they are the corporate sponsor for Ubuntu but we are the community

    <KJ4UFG> given that amber, what is advocacy for, then

    <KJ4UFG> what are we advocating?

    <akgraner> to let people know they have a choice

    <holstein> KJ4UFG: are you OK with waiting til next meeting at least?

    <akgraner> and they aren't locked into windows or osx

    <holstein> just so i can go ahead and end the meeting?

    <KJ4UFG> holstein: yes

    <holstein> COOL

    <holstein> SO next meeting in 2 weeks?

    <akgraner> sure

    <cwill747> sounds good

    <_marx_> ditto

    <holstein> [aciton] next meeting August 25th 7pm EST in #ubuntu-us-nc

    <holstein> [action] next meeting August 25th 7pm EST in #ubuntu-us-nc

next meeting August 25th 7pm EST in #ubuntu-us-nc

  • <holstein> and someone will chair

    <holstein> i'll try and really get that rotation worked out

    <holstein> by then

    <cwill747> So I feel bad that I brought up a couple things and then had to run out and couldn't address them

    <cwill747> feel free to end the meeting

    <cwill747> but I thought if some people are gonna hang for a minute, I'll talk about what I missed

    <holstein> #endmeeting


Meeting closed at 00:08

People Present

  • holstein
  • _marx_
  • adam_vollrath
  • jcg2
  • akgraner
  • KJ4UFG
  • cwill747

Actions Recorded

  • start some email threads about some advocacy ideas
  • email list about setting up a new facebook page
  • CharLUG install fest temporarily postponed
  • think about what the LoCo can do to help CharLUG

  • akgraner to oversee new facebook page
  • holstein will work on setting up a 'meeting chair group' of members that can chair the meetings in rotation
  • remove 'Review member positions and the job requirements/responsibilities in order to discuss filling open positions' from agenda
  • all members can edit the /Meeting/Agenda wiki page
  • change the way the meeting agenda works by starting with a clean slate each time
  • holstein to change the meeting agenda WIKI
  • Implementing a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo. This could help get the word out

  • _marx_ to look into the contact information layout on the wiki and edit or add a new page
  • pending further discussion, a system for NC residents to request a CD sent to them by our LoCo will have to be taken on at a later time

  • refer NC residents to shipit for ubuntu CD's
  • next meeting August 25th 7pm EST in #ubuntu-us-nc


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