2010-09-01
Ubuntu NC LoCo Team IRC Meeting - Month Date, Year
Agenda
Agenda Item |
Date Item Added |
By Whom (please use wiki signature when possible |
Additional Comments |
Changing Meeting Date to Once a month |
August 26, 2010 |
-- akgraner 2010-08-26 19:22:28 |
Suggestion made by holstein |
Compose and post a list of meeting chairpersons |
August 26 2010 |
-- john-johnghormley 2024-03-29 12:03:58 |
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Establish protocol for responsibility of clearing agenda items after each meeting |
August 26, 2010 |
-- john-johnghormley 2024-03-29 12:03:58 |
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Establish protocol for insuring a current agenda is posted |
August 26, 2010 |
-- john-johnghormley 2024-03-29 12:03:58 |
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Canonical Support for LoCo's QA |
September 1, 2010 |
-- akgraner 2010-09-01 20:39:41 |
Based on conversations with members of the LoCo team about what and why Canonical will and won't support. I have asked various Canonical employees who belong to the NC LoCo team to attend to give better answers than I have been able to. Please keep in mind that they are not here to be a verbal punching bag but to answer what they can and when necessary be another voice to your comments and concerns |
Monthly Reports due this Saturday |
September 1, 2010 |
-- akgraner 2010-09-01 22:34:11 |
Please insure items that you or the team have been involved in to the reports. Items can be added to : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/TeamReports/10/August |
MootBotUK
Meeting opened by holstein at 23:01
<BugeyeD> wow, the big guns ...
<holstein> im gonne get right to the meeting change
<internalkernel> o/
<holstein> [topic] Changing Meeting Date to Once a month
Changing Meeting Date to Once a month
<BugeyeD> \o
<internalkernel> role call?
<internalkernel> just for the record...
<holstein> yeah, shout out
<BugeyeD> i'm heeyuh
<akgraner> o/
pgraner waves 0/
<holstein> pgraner akgraner BugeyeD internalkernel holstein
<holstein> i think thats us for now
<bac> me
<holstein> AH hey bac
<BugeyeD> whoah
<akgraner> I thought adam_vollrath was here earlier as well
<bac> hi y'all
<holstein> yeah, your right adam_vollrath is lurking
<BugeyeD> bac: long time no see
<internalkernel> he was... and we can include as we move along...
<akgraner> nods
<holstein> so we vote? for the meeting change?
<BugeyeD> +1
<BugeyeD>
<internalkernel> +1
<_marx_> +1
<holstein> i didnt here any complaints in the email list
<bac> +1
<holstein> hey _marx_
<akgraner> For those who don't have the link here is the agenda for the meeting - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/Meeting/Agenda
<internalkernel> neither did I, and I think that was the most discussing I've heard on ourlist in a long time
<_marx_> chair has to do vote though
<holstein> [vote]
Motion: |
<_marx_> +1
<akgraner> +1
<holstein> +1
<internalkernel> +1
<BugeyeD> +1
<bac> +1
<holstein> that should do it
<holstein> [ENDVOTE]
Results: 6 in favour, 0 against, 0 abstained. |
Overall: 6 |
Motion Carried: |
Motion Denied: |
Deadlock. If someone has a casting vote now is the time to use it |
<holstein> so were monlthy now
<internalkernel> so we didnt talk about when to change the meeting to
<holstein> first wendnesday
<holstein> not first and 3rd
<adam_vollrath> wat
<adam_vollrath> I abstain
<holstein> i think thats what we were talking about in the email
<holstein> just doint the first wednesday
<holstein> everymonth
<holstein> anyways
<internalkernel> I thought so to, I don't think it was officially talked about... but that seems the best choice - 1st wednesday same time
<akgraner> Motion to move meeting to the 1st Wednesday of each month
<holstein> 2nd
<internalkernel> +!
<internalkernel> +1 I mean
<ubudog> sorry, a little late
<adam_vollrath> that's a handy bot
<akgraner> ubudog, no worries welcome!
<ubudog> thanks
<holstein> [ACTION] meetings moved to the first wendnesday every month 7p
meetings moved to the first wendnesday every month 7p |
<ubudog> im not a bot,
<ubudog> seriosly
<adam_vollrath> I'm a bot.
<adam_vollrath> What's wrong with being a bot?
<internalkernel> can you prove it?
<adam_vollrath> You have something against bots?
<akgraner> ubudog, no I think he is talking about mootbot-uk
<ubudog> oh
<holstein> [topic] Compose and post a list of meeting chairpersons
Compose and post a list of meeting chairpersons
<akgraner> anywho
<ubudog> lol
<holstein> i have a list
<adam_vollrath> i am not on it
<akgraner> holstein, can you list the people who have volunteered to do it please
<holstein> [action] meeting chairpersons marx akgraner internalkernel holstein coxn BugeyeD
meeting chairpersons marx akgraner internalkernel holstein coxn BugeyeD |
<holstein> [action] holstein will email the list with a rotation schedule
holstein will email the list with a rotation schedule |
<akgraner> is there anyone else who is not on the list that would like to take a turn chairing the meetings
<ubudog> brb
<ubudog> sry
<BugeyeD> excuse you
<holstein> sorry guys
<holstein> can we vote real quick on that meeting time?
<internalkernel> we can also ask that question on the email you're going to send out...
<holstein> [vote] for first wednesday of the month meetings
Motion: for first wednesday of the month meetings |
<akgraner> +1
<internalkernel> +1
<holstein> +1
<BugeyeD> +1
<_marx_> +1
<holstein> [endvote]
Results: 5 in favour, 0 against, 0 abstained. |
Overall: 5 |
Motion Carried: for first wednesday of the month meetings |
Motion Denied: for first wednesday of the month meetings |
Deadlock. If someone has a casting vote now is the time to use it |
<holstein> thats a healty majority
_marx_ observes "+1" at a command prompt returns file not found
<holstein> shout out if im moving too fast
<internalkernel> omg
<holstein> [topic] Establish protocol for responsibility of clearing agenda items after each meeting
Establish protocol for responsibility of clearing agenda items after each meeting
<holstein> i was thinking about shooting this around the list a bit
<akgraner> Motion meeting chair after meeting minutes have been sent out
<internalkernel> for why?
<holstein> but it doesnt have to be crazy official
<holstein> akgraner: you mean decide at the end who goes next?
<akgraner> as long as meeting minutes are sent - the chair can clear all items discussed
<internalkernel> don't we have a meeting chair page that explains the duties of the meeting chair?
<holstein> yeah
<akgraner> holstein, no for clearing the items
<holstein> OH
<holstein> yeah totally
<holstein> 2nd akgraner 's suggestion
<internalkernel> I didnt grok, what was it again?
<holstein> so the chair does it at the end
<holstein> right?
<akgraner> right
<internalkernel> clears the items on the current agenda...
<pgraner> I would suggest that you crib from: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/RunningTheIRCMeeting
<internalkernel> and moves any items not covered to the top
<holstein> [vote] Motion meeting chair after meeting minutes have been sent out
Motion: Motion meeting chair after meeting minutes have been sent out |
<holstein> +1
<akgraner> +1
<bac> +1
<BugeyeD> +1
<internalkernel> +1
<holstein> [endvote]
Results: 5 in favour, 0 against, 0 abstained. |
Overall: 5 |
Motion Carried: Motion meeting chair after meeting minutes have been sent out |
Motion Denied: Motion meeting chair after meeting minutes have been sent out |
Deadlock. If someone has a casting vote now is the time to use it |
<holstein> [action] meeting chair clears the agenda after meeting minutes have been sent out
meeting chair clears the agenda after meeting minutes have been sent out |
<BugeyeD> pgraner: that link is great, thanks
<holstein> [topic] Establish protocol for insuring a current agenda is posted
Establish protocol for insuring a current agenda is posted
<pgraner> BugeyeD, no prob, it takes the chaos out
<internalkernel> totally... another bookmar
<internalkernel> bookmark
<holstein> i think we already did that right?
<akgraner> I thought that was taken care of already?
<holstein> cleaning up that wiki
<holstein> and making it more 'findable'
<akgraner> yes too many includes
<akgraner> can't we just move it to the meeting page
<BugeyeD> 1st part of being current would be the clean-up ... do we just add things individually as we come up with them or is there an official way to get things added?
<akgraner> so if you click edit - you get where to add items
<holstein> akgraner: you mean the planning page?
<internalkernel> well, we have revision control on the wiki - so technically it's okay to just edit it as things come up
<akgraner> BugeyeD, any team member can add items to the wiki
<holstein> BugeyeD: its pretty clear at the wiki how to add
<internalkernel> most of us are notified when something is edited anyways, right?
<holstein> and anybody... ^
<akgraner> and if they don't know our don't want to they can just ask someone - we need to give them the info for leadership team
<holstein> totally
<internalkernel> agreed
<BugeyeD> i know _how to add, just asking if there was some agreed-upon way. guess not, and that's fine.
<ubudog> yeah, i think if you subscribe to the emails...
<internalkernel> lol
<ubudog> you get notified
<internalkernel> BugeyeD: do you know how to edit the wiki? really? :P
<akgraner> agreed upon way would be anyone on the team can add to it
<internalkernel> yes, agree as well
<BugeyeD> heh
<holstein> [action] protocol is already in place for insuring a current agenda is posted
protocol is already in place for insuring a current agenda is posted |
<internalkernel> so, did I hear a motion to move the agenda to another page to make it more accessible?
<_marx_> but that limit can't be enforced w/the way the wiki works
<internalkernel> remove an include or something to that effect?
<_marx_> agenda is on it's own page now
<akgraner> nope I was just asking about it
<akgraner> it's own it's own page now
<_marx_> an include pulls it to /Meeting
<akgraner> /Meeting/Agenda
<internalkernel> okay, wondering - I'm all for consolidating the amount of clicks it takes to find info
<holstein> +1
<_marx_> current agenda is listed on /Meetings
<_marx_> so editing /Meeting/Agenda
<holstein> and its nice and shiny now
<internalkernel> sounds good, I may have misunderstood what someone else menitoned earlier
<holstein> akgraner: are we a go for the Q&A?
<_marx_> for meeting minutes it's nice to see what the agenda was for that meeting
<holstein> i was hoping Jcg would be here
<akgraner> me too
<holstein> i think he had the most concerns
<holstein> i cant really remember the specifics
<internalkernel> I wasn't aware of any concerns so you're doing better than I
<holstein>
<akgraner> but we can see how it goes and if no one has questions or if I answered them all the other day to everyone's satisfaction then I'll just say thank to people for being available
<holstein> [topic] Canonical Support for LoCo's QA
Canonical Support for LoCo's QA
<holstein> well, i remember the live CD questions
<internalkernel> what were those?
<internalkernel> at least we can get them in the log
<holstein> but those were totally answered for me
<akgraner> So at the last meeting jcg and a few others had some questions about what Canonical would give the LoCo team
<holstein> akgraner: maybe you just want to say again for the log..
<holstein> im not clear on what the expectations were
<holstein> what is expected to be given
<akgraner> As an approved LoCo team we get a set amount of pressed CD's for free each cycle
<holstein> other than the live CD's
<akgraner> we will also be given a banner
<akgraner> and a table skirt
<ubudog> cool
<holstein> akgraner: an NC loco table skirt?
<akgraner> Ubuntu table skirt
<internalkernel> +1 for free stuff...
<holstein> nice
<akgraner> generic Ubuntu logo on it
<holstein> still
<holstein> pretty slick
<internalkernel> so was there an issue with something?
<akgraner> however - we can't expect to get 1000 + Cd's for whatever we want
<internalkernel> this is all totally new to me, I wasnt at the last last meeting
<akgraner> when we have the ability to burn CD's ourselves
<holstein> akgraner: do you think this might be able to play out on the mailing list?
<holstein> more effectively?
<holstein> with Jcg
<akgraner> well others had questions too
<holstein> i dont mind to start a thread
<akgraner> so if anyone still has questions now would be the time
<akgraner> a mailing list thread about this *always* turns ugly everywhere else I have seen it
<_marx_> akgraner: any kubuntu cd's?
<akgraner> yes there are kubuntu CD's
<akgraner> and server
<holstein> SO, if we do events
<akgraner> the only restriction to getting them is only one person on the team can request them - the team contact
<akgraner> we can request a conference pack
<holstein> are there rules about what we need to do?
<holstein> or cant do?
<holstein> for example, to use that banner and all that
<akgraner> nope not really - we can handle a meeting the way we see fit
<akgraner> or event rather
<holstein> i think that was an issue, now that i think about it
<akgraner> the only drawback is how I get it to other people
<holstein> why do an ubuntu event for advocacy
<holstein> if we get nothing from it
<akgraner> but we do get something - we are sharing what we are passionate about
<akgraner> we can request the conference packs
<holstein> hey
holstein wants a conference pack
<pgraner> holstein, its not about handing out free CD's, its about showing other how to download and burn for themselves
<holstein> i think
<akgraner> (withing the right time limit)
<holstein> pgraner: agreed
<akgraner> It's more about teaching people to fish rather than giving them the fish
<pgraner> holstein, unfortunately CD's are hugely expensive and we have found over the years they really generate little real interest
<holstein> or they dont acutally get used
<pgraner> holstein, +1
<internalkernel> table coasters
<holstein> yup
<internalkernel> very good for that... and frisbees as my 2 yr old demonstrates aptly
<holstein> im comfortabel with the CD situation
_marx_ has 5.10 cds laying around somewhere
bac has four on his desk atm
<internalkernel> lmao
<pgraner> just to give you guys a benchmark currently Canonical spends about 2million USD on CDs a year
<holstein> pgraner: and servers
<holstein> and bandwidth
<holstein> and salaries
<akgraner> However we are marketing and advocating for Ubuntu not Canonical
<pgraner> holstein, true we are not counting that, believe it or not server/bandwidth is far cheaper compared to the amount of CDs we produce and what gets downloaded.
<holstein> downloads are usually pretty fast too
<holstein> anyways
<akgraner> so are there any other questions
<holstein> i was just trying to remember some of the questions that were brought up before
<holstein> im totally cool
<holstein> moving on...
<akgraner> awesome
<BugeyeD> akgraner: good point
<akgraner> thanks jono, pgraner bac for making yourselves available
<pgraner> np
<BugeyeD> thanks yall
<BugeyeD>
<holstein> yeah... woot
<bac> thanks for the reminder akgraner
<BugeyeD> (north carolina type of thanks)
<holstein> [topic] Monthly Reports due this Saturday
Monthly Reports due this Saturday
<bac> will try to show up more often...
holstein is not sure what these are
<holstein> can i do something?
<akgraner> If you have anything to add to these reports please do so here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/TeamReports/10/August
<internalkernel> just a quick thanks to the folks that made time to show up to answer those questions as well... pgraner, jono, akgraner
<holstein> akgraner: i see
<akgraner> each month we report what all we have been up to
<_marx_> i've been doing these and usually do the next months when the current one is complete
<akgraner> and it gets added to UWN and the Ubuntu Team Reports wiki for each month
<_marx_> well i've been making the base wiki page...anyone can add items
<jono> no worries
<jono> it didn't take much from me
<jono>
<holstein> jono:
<akgraner> there is no way as the team grows we are going to know what everyone is up to all the time
<ubudog> no
<_marx_> right now aug 25 meeting needs to be added and ubuntu hours
<akgraner> making sure everyone knows where to add their contributions is important
<holstein> [action] If you have anything to add to these reports please do so here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/TeamReports/10/August
If you have anything to add to these reports please do so here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/TeamReports/10/August |
<akgraner> or if you know someone on the team participated and contributed somewhere you can add that too
<akgraner> I know I forget to add half of the stuff I do
<akgraner> plus should you be thinking about going for Ubuntu Membership this also records your contribution to the LoCo team
BugeyeD hasn't mentioned any of the ubuntu hours lately
<holstein> BugeyeD: are you guys still doing one?
<BugeyeD> yup. sometimes it's a party of one, but there's always an ubuntu hat (and stickers all over my laptop)
<holstein> nice
<holstein> anyone got anything they want to add?
<akgraner> that's what its about constant, persistent, reliable presence...
<BugeyeD> i'd like to ask for a table kilt. i'm not so sure i want to sit at a table with a skirt.
<akgraner> BugeyeD, :-P
<akgraner> oh I forgot
<holstein> BugeyeD: do you send announcements to the list?
<BugeyeD> no, i'm a slacker. _marx_ usually does, though.
<akgraner> Ubuntu App Developer Week is happening Sep 27 through Oct 1
<holstein> cool
<ubudog> ok
<akgraner> if you want to learn more about writing applications - check this week out
<BugeyeD> wassat?
<ubudog> cool
<BugeyeD> ahh
<holstein> [action] Ubuntu App Developer Week is happening Sep 27 through Oct 1
Ubuntu App Developer Week is happening Sep 27 through Oct 1 |
<BugeyeD> i wonder if they use "quickly" ...
<akgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek?action=show&redirect=UbuntuOpportunisticDeveloperWeek
<akgraner> yeppers
<akgraner> they sure do
<BugeyeD> that was a neat part of s.e.l.f. for me
<akgraner> Here is the announcement - http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/2115
<holstein> [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek?action=show&redirect=UbuntuOpportunisticDeveloperWeek
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek?action=show&redirect=UbuntuOpportunisticDeveloperWeek |
<akgraner> also on the ubuntu-devel mailing list and jono's blog - he asked the question about getting more developers involved in Ubuntu - so if you are a developer and you want to get more involved - I'll get you some more information
<holstein> [link] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/2115
<akgraner> that is going to be one of the community teams goal for the -n cycle
<akgraner> s/goal/goals
<holstein> so, i'll just set up a rotation of the 6 chair folk
<holstein> and email that out
<akgraner> thanks!
<holstein> and post it somewheres
<akgraner> oh reminded if you haven't looked at the new loco directory please do
<holstein> [action] holstein to email the list about the rotation order of chair persons
holstein to email the list about the rotation order of chair persons |
<akgraner> http://loco.ubuntu.com/
<holstein> now Mootbot-UK takes links
<holstein> [action] next meeting wednesday october 6th 7pm #ubuntu-us-nc
next meeting wednesday october 6th 7pm #ubuntu-us-nc |
<ubudog> yeah, pretty cool bot
<holstein> BugeyeD: you want to starts us out in the rotation?
<holstein> and chair that meeting?
<BugeyeD> absitively posolutely!
<BugeyeD> i mean yes
<akgraner> awesome! - thanks BugeyeD!
<holstein> cool
<holstein> great meeting guys
<ubudog> yeah, n1
<internalkernel> yes thanks holstein!
<holstein> #endmeeting
Meeting closed at 23:51
People Present
- BugeyeD
- holstein
- internalkernel
- akgraner
- pgraner
- bac
- _marx_
- adam_vollrath
- ubudog
- jono
Actions Recorded
- meetings moved to the first wendnesday every month 7p
- meeting chairpersons marx akgraner internalkernel holstein coxn BugeyeD
- holstein will email the list with a rotation schedule
- meeting chair clears the agenda after meeting minutes have been sent out
- protocol is already in place for insuring a current agenda is posted
If you have anything to add to these reports please do so here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/TeamReports/10/August
- Ubuntu App Developer Week is happening Sep 27 through Oct 1
- holstein to email the list about the rotation order of chair persons
- next meeting wednesday october 6th 7pm #ubuntu-us-nc
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