2010-09-01

Ubuntu NC LoCo Team IRC Meeting - Month Date, Year

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Changing Meeting Date to Once a month

August 26, 2010

-- akgraner 2010-08-26 19:22:28

Suggestion made by holstein

Compose and post a list of meeting chairpersons

August 26 2010

-- john-johnghormley 2019-09-17 11:01:58

Establish protocol for responsibility of clearing agenda items after each meeting

August 26, 2010

-- john-johnghormley 2019-09-17 11:01:58

Establish protocol for insuring a current agenda is posted

August 26, 2010

-- john-johnghormley 2019-09-17 11:01:58

Canonical Support for LoCo's QA

September 1, 2010

-- akgraner 2010-09-01 20:39:41

Based on conversations with members of the LoCo team about what and why Canonical will and won't support. I have asked various Canonical employees who belong to the NC LoCo team to attend to give better answers than I have been able to. Please keep in mind that they are not here to be a verbal punching bag but to answer what they can and when necessary be another voice to your comments and concerns

Monthly Reports due this Saturday

September 1, 2010

-- akgraner 2010-09-01 22:34:11

Please insure items that you or the team have been involved in to the reports. Items can be added to : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/TeamReports/10/August

MootBotUK

Meeting opened by holstein at 23:01

  • <BugeyeD> wow, the big guns ...

    <holstein> im gonne get right to the meeting change

    <internalkernel> o/

    <holstein> [topic] Changing Meeting Date to Once a month

Changing Meeting Date to Once a month

  • <BugeyeD> \o

    <internalkernel> role call?

    <internalkernel> just for the record...

    <holstein> yeah, shout out

    <BugeyeD> i'm heeyuh

    <akgraner> o/

  • pgraner waves 0/

    <holstein> pgraner akgraner BugeyeD internalkernel holstein

    <holstein> i think thats us for now

    <bac> me

    <holstein> AH hey bac Smile :)

    <BugeyeD> whoah

    <akgraner> I thought adam_vollrath was here earlier as well

    <bac> hi y'all

    <holstein> yeah, your right adam_vollrath is lurking

    <BugeyeD> bac: long time no see

    <internalkernel> he was... and we can include as we move along...

    <akgraner> nods

    <holstein> so we vote? for the meeting change?

    <BugeyeD> +1

    <BugeyeD> Smile :)

    <internalkernel> +1

    <_marx_> +1

    <holstein> i didnt here any complaints in the email list

    <bac> +1

    <holstein> hey _marx_

    <akgraner> For those who don't have the link here is the agenda for the meeting - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/Meeting/Agenda

    <internalkernel> neither did I, and I think that was the most discussing I've heard on ourlist in a long time

    <_marx_> chair has to do vote though

    <holstein> [vote]

Motion:

  • <_marx_> +1

    <akgraner> +1

    <holstein> +1

    <internalkernel> +1

    <BugeyeD> +1

    <bac> +1

    <holstein> that should do it Smile :)

    <holstein> [ENDVOTE]

Results: 6 in favour, 0 against, 0 abstained.

Overall: 6

Motion Carried:

Motion Denied:

Deadlock. If someone has a casting vote now is the time to use it

  • <holstein> so were monlthy now

    <internalkernel> so we didnt talk about when to change the meeting to

    <holstein> first wendnesday

    <holstein> not first and 3rd

    <adam_vollrath> wat

    <adam_vollrath> I abstain

    <holstein> i think thats what we were talking about in the email

    <holstein> just doint the first wednesday

    <holstein> everymonth

    <holstein> anyways

    <internalkernel> I thought so to, I don't think it was officially talked about... but that seems the best choice - 1st wednesday same time

    <akgraner> Motion to move meeting to the 1st Wednesday of each month

    <holstein> 2nd

    <internalkernel> +!

    <internalkernel> +1 I mean

    <ubudog> sorry, a little late

    <adam_vollrath> that's a handy bot

    <akgraner> ubudog, no worries welcome!

    <ubudog> thanks

    <holstein> [ACTION] meetings moved to the first wendnesday every month 7p

meetings moved to the first wendnesday every month 7p

  • <ubudog> im not a bot,

    <ubudog> seriosly

    <adam_vollrath> I'm a bot.

    <adam_vollrath> What's wrong with being a bot?

    <internalkernel> can you prove it?

    <adam_vollrath> You have something against bots?

    <akgraner> ubudog, no I think he is talking about mootbot-uk

    <ubudog> oh

    <holstein> [topic] Compose and post a list of meeting chairpersons

Compose and post a list of meeting chairpersons

  • <akgraner> anywho

    <ubudog> lol

    <holstein> i have a list

    <adam_vollrath> i am not on it

    <akgraner> holstein, can you list the people who have volunteered to do it please

    <holstein> [action] meeting chairpersons marx akgraner internalkernel holstein coxn BugeyeD

meeting chairpersons marx akgraner internalkernel holstein coxn BugeyeD

  • <holstein> [action] holstein will email the list with a rotation schedule

holstein will email the list with a rotation schedule

  • <akgraner> is there anyone else who is not on the list that would like to take a turn chairing the meetings

    <ubudog> brb

    <ubudog> sry

    <BugeyeD> excuse you

    <holstein> sorry guys

    <holstein> can we vote real quick on that meeting time?

    <internalkernel> we can also ask that question on the email you're going to send out...

    <holstein> [vote] for first wednesday of the month meetings

Motion: for first wednesday of the month meetings

  • <akgraner> +1

    <internalkernel> +1

    <holstein> +1

    <BugeyeD> +1

    <_marx_> +1

    <holstein> [endvote]

Results: 5 in favour, 0 against, 0 abstained.

Overall: 5

Motion Carried: for first wednesday of the month meetings

Motion Denied: for first wednesday of the month meetings

Deadlock. If someone has a casting vote now is the time to use it

  • <holstein> thats a healty majority Smile :)

  • _marx_ observes "+1" at a command prompt returns file not found Smile :)

    <holstein> shout out if im moving too fast

    <internalkernel> omg

    <holstein> [topic] Establish protocol for responsibility of clearing agenda items after each meeting

Establish protocol for responsibility of clearing agenda items after each meeting

  • <holstein> i was thinking about shooting this around the list a bit

    <akgraner> Motion meeting chair after meeting minutes have been sent out

    <internalkernel> for why?

    <holstein> but it doesnt have to be crazy official

    <holstein> akgraner: you mean decide at the end who goes next?

    <akgraner> as long as meeting minutes are sent - the chair can clear all items discussed

    <internalkernel> don't we have a meeting chair page that explains the duties of the meeting chair?

    <holstein> yeah

    <akgraner> holstein, no for clearing the items

    <holstein> OH

    <holstein> yeah totally

    <holstein> 2nd akgraner 's suggestion

    <internalkernel> I didnt grok, what was it again?

    <holstein> so the chair does it at the end

    <holstein> right?

    <akgraner> right

    <internalkernel> clears the items on the current agenda...

    <pgraner> I would suggest that you crib from: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/RunningTheIRCMeeting

    <internalkernel> and moves any items not covered to the top

    <holstein> [vote] Motion meeting chair after meeting minutes have been sent out

Motion: Motion meeting chair after meeting minutes have been sent out

  • <holstein> +1

    <akgraner> +1

    <bac> +1

    <BugeyeD> +1

    <internalkernel> +1

    <holstein> [endvote]

Results: 5 in favour, 0 against, 0 abstained.

Overall: 5

Motion Carried: Motion meeting chair after meeting minutes have been sent out

Motion Denied: Motion meeting chair after meeting minutes have been sent out

Deadlock. If someone has a casting vote now is the time to use it

  • <holstein> [action] meeting chair clears the agenda after meeting minutes have been sent out

meeting chair clears the agenda after meeting minutes have been sent out

  • <BugeyeD> pgraner: that link is great, thanks

    <holstein> [topic] Establish protocol for insuring a current agenda is posted

Establish protocol for insuring a current agenda is posted

  • <pgraner> BugeyeD, no prob, it takes the chaos out

    <internalkernel> totally... another bookmar

    <internalkernel> bookmark

    <holstein> i think we already did that right?

    <akgraner> I thought that was taken care of already?

    <holstein> cleaning up that wiki

    <holstein> and making it more 'findable'

    <akgraner> yes too many includes

    <akgraner> can't we just move it to the meeting page

    <BugeyeD> 1st part of being current would be the clean-up ... do we just add things individually as we come up with them or is there an official way to get things added?

    <akgraner> so if you click edit - you get where to add items

    <holstein> akgraner: you mean the planning page?

    <internalkernel> well, we have revision control on the wiki - so technically it's okay to just edit it as things come up

    <akgraner> BugeyeD, any team member can add items to the wiki

    <holstein> BugeyeD: its pretty clear at the wiki how to add

    <internalkernel> most of us are notified when something is edited anyways, right?

    <holstein> and anybody... ^

    <akgraner> and if they don't know our don't want to they can just ask someone - we need to give them the info for leadership team

    <holstein> totally

    <internalkernel> agreed

    <BugeyeD> i know _how to add, just asking if there was some agreed-upon way. guess not, and that's fine.

    <ubudog> yeah, i think if you subscribe to the emails...

    <internalkernel> lol

    <ubudog> you get notified

    <internalkernel> BugeyeD: do you know how to edit the wiki? really? :P

    <akgraner> agreed upon way would be anyone on the team can add to it Smile :-)

    <internalkernel> yes, agree as well

    <BugeyeD> heh

    <holstein> [action] protocol is already in place for insuring a current agenda is posted

protocol is already in place for insuring a current agenda is posted

  • <internalkernel> so, did I hear a motion to move the agenda to another page to make it more accessible?

    <_marx_> but that limit can't be enforced w/the way the wiki works

    <internalkernel> remove an include or something to that effect?

    <_marx_> agenda is on it's own page now

    <akgraner> nope I was just asking about it

    <akgraner> it's own it's own page now

    <_marx_> an include pulls it to /Meeting

    <akgraner> /Meeting/Agenda

    <internalkernel> okay, wondering - I'm all for consolidating the amount of clicks it takes to find info

    <holstein> +1

    <_marx_> current agenda is listed on /Meetings

    <_marx_> so editing /Meeting/Agenda

    <holstein> and its nice and shiny now Smile :)

    <internalkernel> sounds good, I may have misunderstood what someone else menitoned earlier

    <holstein> akgraner: are we a go for the Q&A?

    <_marx_> for meeting minutes it's nice to see what the agenda was for that meeting

    <holstein> i was hoping Jcg would be here

    <akgraner> me too

    <holstein> i think he had the most concerns

    <holstein> i cant really remember the specifics

    <internalkernel> I wasn't aware of any concerns so you're doing better than I

    <holstein> Wink ;)

    <akgraner> but we can see how it goes and if no one has questions or if I answered them all the other day to everyone's satisfaction then I'll just say thank to people for being available

    <holstein> [topic] Canonical Support for LoCo's QA

Canonical Support for LoCo's QA

  • <holstein> well, i remember the live CD questions

    <internalkernel> what were those?

    <internalkernel> at least we can get them in the log

    <holstein> but those were totally answered for me

    <akgraner> So at the last meeting jcg and a few others had some questions about what Canonical would give the LoCo team

    <holstein> akgraner: maybe you just want to say again for the log..

    <holstein> im not clear on what the expectations were

    <holstein> what is expected to be given

    <akgraner> As an approved LoCo team we get a set amount of pressed CD's for free each cycle

    <holstein> other than the live CD's

    <akgraner> we will also be given a banner

    <akgraner> and a table skirt

    <ubudog> cool

    <holstein> akgraner: an NC loco table skirt?

    <akgraner> Ubuntu table skirt

    <internalkernel> +1 for free stuff...

    <holstein> nice

    <akgraner> generic Ubuntu logo on it

    <holstein> still

    <holstein> pretty slick

    <internalkernel> so was there an issue with something?

    <akgraner> however - we can't expect to get 1000 + Cd's for whatever we want

    <internalkernel> this is all totally new to me, I wasnt at the last last meeting

    <akgraner> when we have the ability to burn CD's ourselves

    <holstein> akgraner: do you think this might be able to play out on the mailing list?

    <holstein> more effectively?

    <holstein> with Jcg

    <akgraner> well others had questions too

    <holstein> i dont mind to start a thread

    <akgraner> so if anyone still has questions now would be the time

    <akgraner> a mailing list thread about this *always* turns ugly everywhere else I have seen it

    <_marx_> akgraner: any kubuntu cd's?

    <akgraner> yes there are kubuntu CD's

    <akgraner> and server

    <holstein> SO, if we do events

    <akgraner> the only restriction to getting them is only one person on the team can request them - the team contact

    <akgraner> we can request a conference pack

    <holstein> are there rules about what we need to do?

    <holstein> or cant do?

    <holstein> for example, to use that banner and all that

    <akgraner> nope not really - we can handle a meeting the way we see fit

    <akgraner> or event rather

    <holstein> i think that was an issue, now that i think about it

    <akgraner> the only drawback is how I get it to other people

    <holstein> why do an ubuntu event for advocacy

    <holstein> if we get nothing from it

    <akgraner> but we do get something - we are sharing what we are passionate about

    <akgraner> we can request the conference packs

    <holstein> hey

  • holstein wants a conference pack

    <pgraner> holstein, its not about handing out free CD's, its about showing other how to download and burn for themselves

    <holstein> i think

    <akgraner> (withing the right time limit)

    <holstein> pgraner: agreed

    <akgraner> It's more about teaching people to fish rather than giving them the fish

    <pgraner> holstein, unfortunately CD's are hugely expensive and we have found over the years they really generate little real interest

    <holstein> or they dont acutally get used

    <pgraner> holstein, +1

    <internalkernel> table coasters

    <holstein> yup

    <internalkernel> very good for that... and frisbees as my 2 yr old demonstrates aptly

    <holstein> im comfortabel with the CD situation

  • _marx_ has 5.10 cds laying around somewhere

  • bac has four on his desk atm

    <internalkernel> lmao

    <pgraner> just to give you guys a benchmark currently Canonical spends about 2million USD on CDs a year

    <holstein> pgraner: and servers

    <holstein> and bandwidth

    <holstein> and salaries

    <akgraner> However we are marketing and advocating for Ubuntu not Canonical

    <pgraner> holstein, true we are not counting that, believe it or not server/bandwidth is far cheaper compared to the amount of CDs we produce and what gets downloaded.

    <holstein> downloads are usually pretty fast too

    <holstein> anyways

    <akgraner> so are there any other questions

    <holstein> i was just trying to remember some of the questions that were brought up before

    <holstein> im totally cool

    <holstein> moving on...

    <akgraner> awesome

    <BugeyeD> akgraner: good point

    <akgraner> thanks jono, pgraner bac for making yourselves available

    <pgraner> np

    <BugeyeD> thanks yall

    <BugeyeD> Smile :)

    <holstein> yeah... woot Smile :)

    <bac> thanks for the reminder akgraner

    <BugeyeD> (north carolina type of thanks)

    <holstein> [topic] Monthly Reports due this Saturday

Monthly Reports due this Saturday

  • <bac> will try to show up more often...

  • holstein is not sure what these are

    <holstein> can i do something?

    <akgraner> If you have anything to add to these reports please do so here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/TeamReports/10/August

    <internalkernel> just a quick thanks to the folks that made time to show up to answer those questions as well... pgraner, jono, akgraner

    <holstein> akgraner: i see

    <akgraner> each month we report what all we have been up to

    <_marx_> i've been doing these and usually do the next months when the current one is complete

    <akgraner> and it gets added to UWN and the Ubuntu Team Reports wiki for each month

    <_marx_> well i've been making the base wiki page...anyone can add items

    <jono> no worries

    <jono> it didn't take much from me

    <jono> Smile :-)

    <holstein> jono: Smile :)

    <akgraner> there is no way as the team grows we are going to know what everyone is up to all the time

    <ubudog> no

    <_marx_> right now aug 25 meeting needs to be added and ubuntu hours

    <akgraner> making sure everyone knows where to add their contributions is important

    <holstein> [action] If you have anything to add to these reports please do so here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/TeamReports/10/August

If you have anything to add to these reports please do so here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/TeamReports/10/August

  • <akgraner> or if you know someone on the team participated and contributed somewhere you can add that too

    <akgraner> I know I forget to add half of the stuff I do

    <akgraner> plus should you be thinking about going for Ubuntu Membership this also records your contribution to the LoCo team

  • BugeyeD hasn't mentioned any of the ubuntu hours lately

    <holstein> BugeyeD: are you guys still doing one?

    <BugeyeD> yup. sometimes it's a party of one, but there's always an ubuntu hat (and stickers all over my laptop)

    <holstein> nice

    <holstein> anyone got anything they want to add?

    <akgraner> that's what its about constant, persistent, reliable presence...

    <BugeyeD> i'd like to ask for a table kilt. i'm not so sure i want to sit at a table with a skirt.

    <akgraner> BugeyeD, :-P

    <akgraner> oh I forgot

    <holstein> BugeyeD: do you send announcements to the list?

    <BugeyeD> no, i'm a slacker. _marx_ usually does, though.

    <akgraner> Ubuntu App Developer Week is happening Sep 27 through Oct 1

    <holstein> cool

    <ubudog> ok

    <akgraner> if you want to learn more about writing applications - check this week out

    <BugeyeD> wassat?

    <ubudog> cool

    <BugeyeD> ahh

    <holstein> [action] Ubuntu App Developer Week is happening Sep 27 through Oct 1

Ubuntu App Developer Week is happening Sep 27 through Oct 1

  • <akgraner> also on the ubuntu-devel mailing list and jono's blog - he asked the question about getting more developers involved in Ubuntu - so if you are a developer and you want to get more involved - I'll get you some more information

    <holstein> [link] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/2115

  • <akgraner> that is going to be one of the community teams goal for the -n cycle

    <akgraner> s/goal/goals

    <holstein> so, i'll just set up a rotation of the 6 chair folk

    <holstein> and email that out

    <akgraner> thanks!

    <holstein> and post it somewheres

    <akgraner> oh reminded if you haven't looked at the new loco directory please do

    <holstein> [action] holstein to email the list about the rotation order of chair persons

holstein to email the list about the rotation order of chair persons

  • <akgraner> http://loco.ubuntu.com/

    <holstein> now Mootbot-UK takes links Wink ;)

    <holstein> [action] next meeting wednesday october 6th 7pm #ubuntu-us-nc

next meeting wednesday october 6th 7pm #ubuntu-us-nc

  • <ubudog> yeah, pretty cool bot

    <holstein> BugeyeD: you want to starts us out in the rotation?

    <holstein> and chair that meeting?

    <BugeyeD> absitively posolutely!

    <BugeyeD> i mean yes

    <akgraner> awesome! - thanks BugeyeD!

    <holstein> cool Smile :)

    <holstein> great meeting guys

    <ubudog> yeah, n1

    <internalkernel> yes thanks holstein!

    <holstein> #endmeeting


Meeting closed at 23:51

People Present

  • BugeyeD
  • holstein
  • internalkernel
  • akgraner
  • pgraner
  • bac
  • _marx_
  • adam_vollrath
  • ubudog
  • jono

Actions Recorded

  • meetings moved to the first wendnesday every month 7p
  • meeting chairpersons marx akgraner internalkernel holstein coxn BugeyeD
  • holstein will email the list with a rotation schedule
  • meeting chair clears the agenda after meeting minutes have been sent out
  • protocol is already in place for insuring a current agenda is posted
  • If you have anything to add to these reports please do so here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/TeamReports/10/August

  • Ubuntu App Developer Week is happening Sep 27 through Oct 1
  • holstein to email the list about the rotation order of chair persons
  • next meeting wednesday october 6th 7pm #ubuntu-us-nc


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