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= Ubuntu NC LoCo Team IRC Meeting - Month Date, Year =

== Agenda ==
||<rowbgcolor="#D9D9F3">'''Agenda Item'''||'''Date Item Added'''||'''By Whom (please use wiki signature when possible'''||'''Additional Comments'''||
||Changing Meeting Date to Once a month||August 26, 2010||-- [[LaunchpadHome:akgraner]] <<DateTime(2010-08-26T14:22:28-0500)>> ||Suggestion made by holstein||
||Compose and post a list of meeting chairpersons||August 26 2010||-- [[LaunchpadHome:john-johnghormley]] <<DateTime>> || ||
||Establish protocol for responsibility of clearing agenda items after each meeting||August 26, 2010||-- [[LaunchpadHome:john-johnghormley]] <<DateTime>> || ||
||Establish protocol for insuring a current agenda is posted||August 26, 2010||-- [[LaunchpadHome:john-johnghormley]] <<DateTime>> || ||
|| Canonical Support for Lo``Co's QA || September 1, 2010 || -- [[LaunchpadHome:akgraner]] <<DateTime(2010-09-01T15:39:41-0500)>> || Based on conversations with members of the Lo``Co team about what and why Canonical will and won't support. I have asked various Canonical employees who belong to the NC LoCo team to attend to give better answers than I have been able to. Please keep in mind that they are not here to be a verbal punching bag but to answer what they can and when necessary be another voice to your comments and concerns ||
|| Monthly Reports due this Saturday || September 1, 2010 || -- [[LaunchpadHome:akgraner]] <<DateTime(2010-09-01T17:34:11-0500)>> || Please insure items that you or the team have been involved in to the reports. Items can be added to : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/TeamReports/10/August ||

== MootBotUK ==
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= Meeting opened by holstein at 23:01 =
 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> wow, the big guns ...

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> im gonne get right to the meeting change

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> o/

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [topic] Changing Meeting Date to Once a month

== Changing Meeting Date to Once a month ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> \o

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> role call?

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> just for the record...

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> yeah, shout out

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> i'm heeyuh

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> o/

 * '''<<Verbatim(pgraner)>>''' waves 0/

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> pgraner akgraner BugeyeD internalkernel holstein

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i think thats us for now

 <'''<<Verbatim(bac)>>'''> me

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> AH hey bac :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> whoah

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> I thought adam_vollrath was here earlier as well

 <'''<<Verbatim(bac)>>'''> hi y'all

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> yeah, your right adam_vollrath is lurking

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> bac: long time no see

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> he was... and we can include as we move along...

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> nods

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> so we vote? for the meeting change?

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i didnt here any complaints in the email list

 <'''<<Verbatim(bac)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> hey _marx_

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> For those who don't have the link here is the agenda for the meeting - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/Meeting/Agenda

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> neither did I, and I think that was the most discussing I've heard on ourlist in a long time

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> chair has to do vote though

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [vote]

||<#55FF55>''Motion: ''||
 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(bac)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> that should do it :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [ENDVOTE]

||<#55FF55>Results: 6 in favour, 0 against, 0 abstained.||
||<#55FF55>Overall: 6||
||<#55FF55>Motion Carried: ||
||<#55FF55>Motion Denied: ||
||<#55FF55>Deadlock. If someone has a casting vote now is the time to use it||
 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> so were monlthy now

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> so we didnt talk about when to change the meeting to

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> first wendnesday

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> not first and 3rd

 <'''<<Verbatim(adam_vollrath)>>'''> wat

 <'''<<Verbatim(adam_vollrath)>>'''> I abstain

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i think thats what we were talking about in the email

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> just doint the first wednesday

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> everymonth

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> anyways

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> I thought so to, I don't think it was officially talked about... but that seems the best choice - 1st wednesday same time

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> Motion to move meeting to the 1st Wednesday of each month

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> 2nd

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> +!

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> +1 I mean

 <'''<<Verbatim(ubudog)>>'''> sorry, a little late

 <'''<<Verbatim(adam_vollrath)>>'''> that's a handy bot

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> ubudog, no worries welcome!

 <'''<<Verbatim(ubudog)>>'''> thanks

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [ACTION] meetings moved to the first wendnesday every month 7p

||<#FF5555>'' meetings moved to the first wendnesday every month 7p''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(ubudog)>>'''> im not a bot,

 <'''<<Verbatim(ubudog)>>'''> seriosly

 <'''<<Verbatim(adam_vollrath)>>'''> I'm a bot.

 <'''<<Verbatim(adam_vollrath)>>'''> What's wrong with being a bot?

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> can you prove it?

 <'''<<Verbatim(adam_vollrath)>>'''> You have something against bots?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> ubudog, no I think he is talking about mootbot-uk

 <'''<<Verbatim(ubudog)>>'''> oh

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [topic] Compose and post a list of meeting chairpersons

== Compose and post a list of meeting chairpersons ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> anywho

 <'''<<Verbatim(ubudog)>>'''> lol

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i have a list

 <'''<<Verbatim(adam_vollrath)>>'''> i am not on it

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> holstein, can you list the people who have volunteered to do it please

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [action] meeting chairpersons marx akgraner internalkernel holstein coxn BugeyeD

||<#FF5555>'' meeting chairpersons marx akgraner internalkernel holstein coxn BugeyeD''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [action] holstein will email the list with a rotation schedule

||<#FF5555>'' holstein will email the list with a rotation schedule''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> is there anyone else who is not on the list that would like to take a turn chairing the meetings

 <'''<<Verbatim(ubudog)>>'''> brb

 <'''<<Verbatim(ubudog)>>'''> sry

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> excuse you

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> sorry guys

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> can we vote real quick on that meeting time?

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> we can also ask that question on the email you're going to send out...

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [vote] for first wednesday of the month meetings

||<#55FF55>''Motion: for first wednesday of the month meetings''||
 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [endvote]

||<#55FF55>Results: 5 in favour, 0 against, 0 abstained.||
||<#55FF55>Overall: 5||
||<#55FF55>Motion Carried: for first wednesday of the month meetings||
||<#55FF55>Motion Denied: for first wednesday of the month meetings||
||<#55FF55>Deadlock. If someone has a casting vote now is the time to use it||
 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> thats a healty majority :)

 * '''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>''' observes "+1" at a command prompt returns file not found :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> shout out if im moving too fast

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> omg

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [topic] Establish protocol for responsibility of clearing agenda items after each meeting

== Establish protocol for responsibility of clearing agenda items after each meeting ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i was thinking about shooting this around the list a bit

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> Motion meeting chair after meeting minutes have been sent out

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> for why?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> but it doesnt have to be crazy official

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> akgraner: you mean decide at the end who goes next?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> as long as meeting minutes are sent - the chair can clear all items discussed

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> don't we have a meeting chair page that explains the duties of the meeting chair?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> yeah

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> holstein, no for clearing the items

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> OH

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> yeah totally

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> 2nd akgraner 's suggestion

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> I didnt grok, what was it again?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> so the chair does it at the end

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> right?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> right

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> clears the items on the current agenda...

 <'''<<Verbatim(pgraner)>>'''> I would suggest that you crib from: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/RunningTheIRCMeeting

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> and moves any items not covered to the top

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [vote] Motion meeting chair after meeting minutes have been sent out

||<#55FF55>''Motion: Motion meeting chair after meeting minutes have been sent out''||
 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(bac)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [endvote]

||<#55FF55>Results: 5 in favour, 0 against, 0 abstained.||
||<#55FF55>Overall: 5||
||<#55FF55>Motion Carried: Motion meeting chair after meeting minutes have been sent out||
||<#55FF55>Motion Denied: Motion meeting chair after meeting minutes have been sent out||
||<#55FF55>Deadlock. If someone has a casting vote now is the time to use it||
 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [action] meeting chair clears the agenda after meeting minutes have been sent out

||<#FF5555>'' meeting chair clears the agenda after meeting minutes have been sent out''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> pgraner: that link is great, thanks

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [topic] Establish protocol for insuring a current agenda is posted

== Establish protocol for insuring a current agenda is posted ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(pgraner)>>'''> BugeyeD, no prob, it takes the chaos out

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> totally... another bookmar

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> bookmark

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i think we already did that right?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> I thought that was taken care of already?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> cleaning up that wiki

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> and making it more 'findable'

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> yes too many includes

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> can't we just move it to the meeting page

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> 1st part of being current would be the clean-up ... do we just add things individually as we come up with them or is there an official way to get things added?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> so if you click edit - you get where to add items

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> akgraner: you mean the planning page?

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> well, we have revision control on the wiki - so technically it's okay to just edit it as things come up

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> BugeyeD, any team member can add items to the wiki

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> BugeyeD: its pretty clear at the wiki how to add

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> most of us are notified when something is edited anyways, right?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> and anybody... ^^^

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> and if they don't know our don't want to they can just ask someone - we need to give them the info for leadership team

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> totally

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> agreed

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> i know _how to add, just asking if there was some agreed-upon way. guess not, and that's fine.

 <'''<<Verbatim(ubudog)>>'''> yeah, i think if you subscribe to the emails...

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> lol

 <'''<<Verbatim(ubudog)>>'''> you get notified

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> BugeyeD: do you know how to edit the wiki? really? :P

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> agreed upon way would be anyone on the team can add to it :-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> yes, agree as well

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> heh

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [action] protocol is already in place for insuring a current agenda is posted

||<#FF5555>'' protocol is already in place for insuring a current agenda is posted''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> so, did I hear a motion to move the agenda to another page to make it more accessible?

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> but that limit can't be enforced w/the way the wiki works

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> remove an include or something to that effect?

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> agenda is on it's own page now

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> nope I was just asking about it

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> it's own it's own page now

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> an include pulls it to /Meeting

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> /Meeting/Agenda

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> okay, wondering - I'm all for consolidating the amount of clicks it takes to find info

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> current agenda is listed on /Meetings

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> so editing /Meeting/Agenda

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> and its nice and shiny now :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> sounds good, I may have misunderstood what someone else menitoned earlier

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> akgraner: are we a go for the Q&A?

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> for meeting minutes it's nice to see what the agenda was for that meeting

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i was hoping Jcg would be here

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> me too

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i think he had the most concerns

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i cant really remember the specifics

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> I wasn't aware of any concerns so you're doing better than I

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> ;)

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> but we can see how it goes and if no one has questions or if I answered them all the other day to everyone's satisfaction then I'll just say thank to people for being available

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [topic] Canonical Support for LoCo's QA

== Canonical Support for LoCo's QA ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> well, i remember the live CD questions

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> what were those?

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> at least we can get them in the log

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> but those were totally answered for me

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> So at the last meeting jcg and a few others had some questions about what Canonical would give the LoCo team

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> akgraner: maybe you just want to say again for the log..

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> im not clear on what the expectations were

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> what is expected to be given

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> As an approved LoCo team we get a set amount of pressed CD's for free each cycle

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> other than the live CD's

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> we will also be given a banner

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> and a table skirt

 <'''<<Verbatim(ubudog)>>'''> cool

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> akgraner: an NC loco table skirt?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> Ubuntu table skirt

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> +1 for free stuff...

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> nice

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> generic Ubuntu logo on it

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> still

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> pretty slick

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> so was there an issue with something?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> however - we can't expect to get 1000 + Cd's for whatever we want

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> this is all totally new to me, I wasnt at the last last meeting

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> when we have the ability to burn CD's ourselves

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> akgraner: do you think this might be able to play out on the mailing list?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> more effectively?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> with Jcg

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> well others had questions too

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i dont mind to start a thread

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> so if anyone still has questions now would be the time

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> a mailing list thread about this *always* turns ugly everywhere else I have seen it

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> akgraner: any kubuntu cd's?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> yes there are kubuntu CD's

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> and server

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> SO, if we do events

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> the only restriction to getting them is only one person on the team can request them - the team contact

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> we can request a conference pack

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> are there rules about what we need to do?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> or cant do?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> for example, to use that banner and all that

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> nope not really - we can handle a meeting the way we see fit

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> or event rather

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i think that was an issue, now that i think about it

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> the only drawback is how I get it to other people

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> why do an ubuntu event for advocacy

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> if we get nothing from it

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> but we do get something - we are sharing what we are passionate about

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> we can request the conference packs

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> hey

 * '''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>''' wants a conference pack

 <'''<<Verbatim(pgraner)>>'''> holstein, its not about handing out free CD's, its about showing other how to download and burn for themselves

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i think

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> (withing the right time limit)

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> pgraner: agreed

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> It's more about teaching people to fish rather than giving them the fish

 <'''<<Verbatim(pgraner)>>'''> holstein, unfortunately CD's are hugely expensive and we have found over the years they really generate little real interest

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> or they dont acutally get used

 <'''<<Verbatim(pgraner)>>'''> holstein, +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> table coasters

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> yup

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> very good for that... and frisbees as my 2 yr old demonstrates aptly

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> im comfortabel with the CD situation

 * '''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>''' has 5.10 cds laying around somewhere

 * '''<<Verbatim(bac)>>''' has four on his desk atm

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> lmao

 <'''<<Verbatim(pgraner)>>'''> just to give you guys a benchmark currently Canonical spends about 2million USD on CDs a year

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> pgraner: and servers

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> and bandwidth

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> and salaries

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> However we are marketing and advocating for Ubuntu not Canonical

 <'''<<Verbatim(pgraner)>>'''> holstein, true we are not counting that, believe it or not server/bandwidth is far cheaper compared to the amount of CDs we produce and what gets downloaded.

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> downloads are usually pretty fast too

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> anyways

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> so are there any other questions

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> i was just trying to remember some of the questions that were brought up before

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> im totally cool

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> moving on...

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> awesome

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> akgraner: good point

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> thanks jono, pgraner bac for making yourselves available

 <'''<<Verbatim(pgraner)>>'''> np

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> thanks yall

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> yeah... woot :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(bac)>>'''> thanks for the reminder akgraner

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> (north carolina type of thanks)

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [topic] Monthly Reports due this Saturday

== Monthly Reports due this Saturday ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(bac)>>'''> will try to show up more often...

 * '''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>''' is not sure what these are

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> can i do something?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> If you have anything to add to these reports please do so here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/TeamReports/10/August

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> just a quick thanks to the folks that made time to show up to answer those questions as well... pgraner, jono, akgraner

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> akgraner: i see

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> each month we report what all we have been up to

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> i've been doing these and usually do the next months when the current one is complete

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> and it gets added to UWN and the Ubuntu Team Reports wiki for each month

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> well i've been making the base wiki page...anyone can add items

 <'''<<Verbatim(jono)>>'''> no worries

 <'''<<Verbatim(jono)>>'''> it didn't take much from me

 <'''<<Verbatim(jono)>>'''> :-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> jono: :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> there is no way as the team grows we are going to know what everyone is up to all the time

 <'''<<Verbatim(ubudog)>>'''> no

 <'''<<Verbatim(_marx_)>>'''> right now aug 25 meeting needs to be added and ubuntu hours

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> making sure everyone knows where to add their contributions is important

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [action] If you have anything to add to these reports please do so here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/TeamReports/10/August

||<#FF5555>'' If you have anything to add to these reports please do so here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/TeamReports/10/August''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> or if you know someone on the team participated and contributed somewhere you can add that too

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> I know I forget to add half of the stuff I do

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> plus should you be thinking about going for Ubuntu Membership this also records your contribution to the LoCo team

 * '''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>''' hasn't mentioned any of the ubuntu hours lately

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> BugeyeD: are you guys still doing one?

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> yup. sometimes it's a party of one, but there's always an ubuntu hat (and stickers all over my laptop)

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> nice

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> anyone got anything they want to add?

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> that's what its about constant, persistent, reliable presence...

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> i'd like to ask for a table kilt. i'm not so sure i want to sit at a table with a skirt.

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> BugeyeD, :-P

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> oh I forgot

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> BugeyeD: do you send announcements to the list?

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> no, i'm a slacker. _marx_ usually does, though.

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> Ubuntu App Developer Week is happening Sep 27 through Oct 1

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> cool

 <'''<<Verbatim(ubudog)>>'''> ok

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> if you want to learn more about writing applications - check this week out

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> wassat?

 <'''<<Verbatim(ubudog)>>'''> cool

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> ahh

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [action] Ubuntu App Developer Week is happening Sep 27 through Oct 1

||<#FF5555>'' Ubuntu App Developer Week is happening Sep 27 through Oct 1''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> i wonder if they use "quickly" ...

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek?action=show&redirect=UbuntuOpportunisticDeveloperWeek

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> yeppers :-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> they sure do

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> that was a neat part of s.e.l.f. for me

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> Here is the announcement - http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/2115

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek?action=show&redirect=UbuntuOpportunisticDeveloperWeek

||<#FF5555>'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek?action=show&redirect=UbuntuOpportunisticDeveloperWeek''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> also on the ubuntu-devel mailing list and jono's blog - he asked the question about getting more developers involved in Ubuntu - so if you are a developer and you want to get more involved - I'll get you some more information

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [link] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/2115

||<#FF5555>'' http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/2115''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> that is going to be one of the community teams goal for the -n cycle

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> s/goal/goals

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> so, i'll just set up a rotation of the 6 chair folk

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> and email that out

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> thanks!

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> and post it somewheres

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> oh reminded if you haven't looked at the new loco directory please do

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [action] holstein to email the list about the rotation order of chair persons

||<#FF5555>'' holstein to email the list about the rotation order of chair persons''||

||<#FF5555>'' http://loco.ubuntu.com/''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> http://loco.ubuntu.com/

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> now Mootbot-UK takes links ;)

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> [action] next meeting wednesday october 6th 7pm #ubuntu-us-nc

||<#FF5555>'' next meeting wednesday october 6th 7pm #ubuntu-us-nc''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(ubudog)>>'''> yeah, pretty cool bot

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> BugeyeD: you want to starts us out in the rotation?

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> and chair that meeting?

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> absitively posolutely!

 <'''<<Verbatim(BugeyeD)>>'''> i mean yes

 <'''<<Verbatim(akgraner)>>'''> awesome! - thanks BugeyeD!

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> cool :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> great meeting guys

 <'''<<Verbatim(ubudog)>>'''> yeah, n1

 <'''<<Verbatim(internalkernel)>>'''> yes thanks holstein!

 <'''<<Verbatim(holstein)>>'''> #endmeeting

----
= Meeting closed at 23:51 =
== People Present ==
 * BugeyeD

 * holstein

 * internalkernel

 * akgraner

 * pgraner

 * bac

 * _marx_

 * adam_vollrath

 * ubudog

 * jono

== Actions Recorded ==
 * meetings moved to the first wendnesday every month 7p

 * meeting chairpersons marx akgraner internalkernel holstein coxn BugeyeD

 * holstein will email the list with a rotation schedule

 * meeting chair clears the agenda after meeting minutes have been sent out

 * protocol is already in place for insuring a current agenda is posted

 * If you have anything to add to these reports please do so here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/TeamReports/10/August

 * Ubuntu App Developer Week is happening Sep 27 through Oct 1

 * holstein to email the list about the rotation order of chair persons

 * next meeting wednesday october 6th 7pm #ubuntu-us-nc
 = Ubuntu NC LoCo Team IRC Meeting - October 6, 2010 =

== Overview ==
{{{
18:57 <Mootbot-UK> Meeting started at 23:00. The chair is BugeyeD.
18:58 <Mootbot-UK> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/Meeting
19:00 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: Open Action Items: (holstein) document meeting chair schedule
19:05 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: New Items:
19:08 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: New Items: new 'light' theme rolled out on the 13th, check all team pages for breakage
19:15 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: New Items: -n team goals
19:17 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: -n team goals: wiki page updates, color coordination, etc.
19:22 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: New Items: generate list of events with planned attendance
19:22 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: New Items: generate list of media needs (pressed cds vs burned vs usb keys)
19:23 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: New Items: work up a plan of attack for the wiki fixes
19:27 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: Announcements: ubuntu open week is this coming week
19:28 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: Announcements: UDS is the last week of the month
19:28 <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: akgraner to email the list regarding ubuntu open week
19:31 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic: Next Meeting Chair: coxn
19:33 <Mootbot-UK> Meeting finished at 23:36.
}}}

== Log ==
{{{
18:57 < BugeyeD> Roll Call
18:57 < BugeyeD> #startmeeting
18:57 < Mootbot-UK> Meeting started at 23:00. The chair is BugeyeD.
18:57 < Mootbot-UK> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [PROGRESS REPORT], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
18:57 < akgraner> o/
18:57 * _marx_ is really not here
18:57 < BugeyeD> \o
18:58 < BugeyeD> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/Meeting
18:58 < Mootbot-UK> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/Meeting
18:58 < BugeyeD> wow, lotsa contributors. :)
18:58 < adam_vollrath> I'm half here
18:59 < BugeyeD> holstein: you fall in?
18:59 < holstein> \o
18:59 < holstein> hehe
18:59 < BugeyeD> good, you can swim
18:59 < BugeyeD> ignoring new stuff, this should be a quickie meeting. at least according to the agenda.
18:59 < BugeyeD> we ready?
18:59 < holstein> yup
19:00 < BugeyeD> the only thing i know of that's outstanding from last month ...
19:00 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] Open Action Items: (holstein) document meeting chair schedule
19:00 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic: Open Action Items: (holstein) document meeting chair schedule
19:00 < holstein> yup
19:00 < holstein> and i made that happen a bit ago
19:00 < holstein> i sent out to the list just now
19:00 < _marx_> linkage
19:00 < holstein> i added the list and order to
19:00 < holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/Meeting/Agenda/MeetingChairAgendaPlanningPage
19:00 < BugeyeD> cool, thx
19:01 < holstein> we can make a separate one if needed
19:01 < holstein> but i figure since its just a few of us
19:01 < holstein> and we'll be looking at that page anyways
19:01 < BugeyeD> works for me
19:01 < akgraner> +1 from me
19:01 < BugeyeD> +!
19:02 < BugeyeD> uh, i hate the shift key ...
19:02 < BugeyeD> +1
19:02 < _marx_> looks good
19:02 < holstein> :)
19:02 < _marx_> +1
19:02 < holstein> and if somebody new wants to pop in there
19:02 < holstein> go for it
19:02 < _marx_> wait no vote called
19:02 < BugeyeD> do we need to vote? it was an action item to make a list. he made a list.
19:02 < holstein> yeah, we might not need to
19:02 < holstein> we can
19:03 < akgraner> vote for what?
19:03 < holstein> but i said i would do it last time
19:03 < akgraner> I thought we voted that we wanted people to do it last time
19:03 < holstein> and it was voted in then as a package
19:03 < akgraner> nods
19:04 < BugeyeD> so this is just closure. right?
19:04 < akgraner> yep
19:04 < _marx_> ditto
19:04 < akgraner> the action item from the last vote
19:04 < BugeyeD> anything else that was an action item that didn't actually make it onto the agenda?
19:05 < akgraner> well nothing from last time - but something that came up yesterday
19:05 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] New Items:
19:05 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic: New Items:
19:05 < akgraner> So if you go to the wiki pages and change your preferences to the "light" theme
19:06 < holstein> akgraner: personal pages?
19:06 < akgraner> all pages
19:06 < holstein> ok
19:06 < akgraner> this is the view starting on the 13th
19:06 < _marx_> user preferences on the wiki
19:06 < akgraner> the wiki's get the new theme next week
19:06 < holstein> is there anything we need to do?
19:06 < BugeyeD> does this get rolled out automatically? are you suggesting we go ahead and change just to see it?
19:06 < holstein> in preperation?
19:07 < _marx_> it's pretty ugly currently
19:07 < akgraner> I just wanted everyone to be prepared
19:07 < akgraner> that we may have to fix things
19:07 < holstein> cool
19:07 < holstein> Sgiomlaireachd: you still around?
19:07 < BugeyeD> i believe moinmoin has a method of dictating a theme for a given page.
19:08 < akgraner> yes - but - after the 13th the default will be the light theme
19:08 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] New Items: new 'light' theme rolled out on the 13th, check all team pages for breakage
19:08 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic: New Items: new 'light' theme rolled out on the 13th, check all team pages for breakage
19:08 < akgraner> go to user preferences and change the theme and you'll see how it's going to look
19:08 < holstein> great heads up akgraner :)
19:09 < Sgiomlaireachd> yes i am
19:09 < holstein> cool, just making sure you get counted present if you want to be Sgiomlaireachd
19:10 < akgraner> also I wanted to mention lets start thinking about goals for the -n cycle
19:10 < BugeyeD> hmm ... changing theme yields internal server error ...
19:10 < akgraner> UDS is the last week of the month
19:10 < holstein> :/
19:10 < akgraner> BugeyeD, refresh and you should be able to see it
19:10 < akgraner> that happened to me yesterday when I changed my preferences as well
19:11 < BugeyeD> looks like it's going to time out. i think everyone on the planet followed your suggestion. right now.
19:11 < BugeyeD> um, ewww ...
19:11 * _marx_ chuckles
19:11 < BugeyeD> so far i'm not a fan
19:11 < BugeyeD> it's colored like a retro kitchen
19:11 < akgraner> exactly
19:12 < _marx_> me neither
19:12 < akgraner> things like lines in the table and lines between sections aren't there anymore
19:12 < BugeyeD> definitely does not jive with our light blue stuff
19:12 < akgraner> nods
19:12 < BugeyeD> you're right, borders are missing
19:12 < akgraner> so I was thinking one of the goals for the -n cycle would be updating the wikis to go with the new theme
19:12 < _marx_> dang i thought that was a purple ;)
19:13 < BugeyeD> so is this a work in progress?
19:13 < holstein> we just got our light blue stuff :/
19:13 < akgraner> BugeyeD, yep
19:13 < holstein> eh
19:13 < akgraner> wikis are always a work in progress
19:13 < BugeyeD> good. so hopefully it'll get somewhat better (borders back) by itself.
19:13 < holstein> i dont think its all that bad
19:13 < BugeyeD> it's almost the color of circus peanuts
19:14 < BugeyeD> okay, plenty of work to get our colors re-coordinated.
19:14 < BugeyeD> anything else to add to the agenda?
19:14 < akgraner> -n team goals
19:15 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] New Items: -n team goals
19:15 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic: New Items: -n team goals
19:15 < adam_vollrath> what page are y'all looking at?
19:15 < adam_vollrath> er were looking at
19:15 < akgraner> we need to think about what we want to accomplish during the 11.04 release cycle
19:15 < BugeyeD> i'm just looking at our own team pages after having changed the theme to 'light'
19:15 < akgraner> adam_vollrath, our team wikis but you have to go under user preferences and change the theme to the 'light' theme
19:16 < BugeyeD> adam_vollrath: which means you have to log in.
19:16 < adam_vollrath> o
19:16 < adam_vollrath> nevermind thanx
19:16 < akgraner> hehe
19:16 < BugeyeD> without logging in and setting your own preference, you get the default which has not yet been changed
19:16 < BugeyeD> (thankfully)
19:17 < BugeyeD> akgraner: suggested goals?
19:17 < akgraner> yeah - wiki page updates :-)
19:17 < BugeyeD> my goal is to keep my chin above water
19:17 < akgraner> also a way to distribute the CD's around the team
19:17 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] -n team goals: wiki page updates, color coordination, etc.
19:17 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic: -n team goals: wiki page updates, color coordination, etc.
19:18 < akgraner> we need to try and list what events we as a team want to participate in during that cycle
19:18 < holstein> maybe we can have a devide and conquer kind of IRC attack on the wikis sometime soon
19:18 < BugeyeD> do you guys do ubuntu hour together? that'd be my suggestion for cd distribution
19:18 < akgraner> sounds like a great plan for say a Global Jam :-)
19:18 < holstein> sure
19:19 < akgraner> BugeyeD, I meant - to get them to you all in the Winston area, to holstein et all in the Asheville area and others
19:19 < holstein> akgraner: you get them?
19:19 -!- Italian_Plumber [~Italian_P@38.121.44.17] has joined #ubuntu-us-nc
19:19 < holstein> the discs?
19:19 < BugeyeD> akgraner: exactly. come back to winston and have a cup'o'joe with us :D
19:19 < akgraner> POC for the various areas based on the events people are attending etc
19:19 < holstein> i go that way go that way often enough
19:19 < holstein> if you get some to me
19:20 < holstein> i can get them to someone who would meet me
19:20 * holstein was out in raliegh a couple weeks ago
19:20 * BugeyeD will be there monday
19:21 < akgraner> so I would say - for the next meeting we work on 1 - list of events people will be attending 2- who needs pressed CD's vs burned cd's vs usb
keys
19:21 < akgraner> 2 - game plan for attacking the wikis
19:21 < holstein> i like it
19:22 < akgraner> 3- a simple way to get the word out in each of our areas about Ubuntu
19:22 < akgraner> (start simple then add to it)
19:22 < holstein> maybe just the FB page
19:22 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] New Items: generate list of events with planned attendance
19:22 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic: New Items: generate list of events with planned attendance
19:22 < holstein> a twitter
19:22 < akgraner> we have those :-)
19:22 < akgraner> ubuntunc on twitter and Identi.ca
19:22 < holstein> next time :) we'll get more into that
19:22 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] New Items: generate list of media needs (pressed cds vs burned vs usb keys)
19:22 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic: New Items: generate list of media needs (pressed cds vs burned vs usb keys)
19:22 < holstein> thats just easy
19:22 -!- Italian_Plumber [~Italian_P@38.121.44.17] has quit [Client Quit]
19:23 < holstein> and effective
19:23 < akgraner> and whatever other people want to add to the list
19:23 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] New Items: work up a plan of attack for the wiki fixes
19:23 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic: New Items: work up a plan of attack for the wiki fixes
19:23 < akgraner> nothing is set in stone and if other people have cool ideas then we just need to get them added and acted upon
19:24 * holstein wants a USB key :/
19:24 < holstein> i didnt realize that was an option
19:24 * BugeyeD does too
19:24 < akgraner> but lets have a UDS-N goals landing area - so we can all see what people are wanting or working on and can decide what and where they would li
ke to help
19:24 < akgraner> holstein, you have to make them :-)
19:24 < holstein> OH
19:24 < holstein> well, i got one then
19:24 < BugeyeD> i just read on our local list that ubuntu has an app for that
19:24 < holstein> i was thinking some fancy thing with a sticker one it
19:24 < holstein> on it*
19:24 < akgraner> I try to have one of each option for people when I go to an event - but failed to bring them to the last event I was at
19:25 < BugeyeD> usb-creator
19:25 < holstein> BugeyeD: it works pretty well
19:25 < BugeyeD> never knew about it until today
19:25 < holstein> i usually end up using unetbootin though
19:25 < BugeyeD> i've always rolled my own, not always a pretty sight
19:25 < holstein> :)
19:26 < akgraner> Oh Ubuntu Open Week is next week
19:26 < holstein> i like it
19:26 < akgraner> in case people want to attend
19:26 < holstein> can we get an email out to the list with the minutes?
19:26 < holstein> or something
19:26 < akgraner> I need to email the list about that with links and stuff
19:27 < holstein> with these upcoming branstorming ideas
19:27 < holstein> akgraner: cool :)
19:27 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] Announcements: ubuntu open week is this coming week
19:27 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic: Announcements: ubuntu open week is this coming week
19:27 < akgraner> action me to email the list about Open Week
19:27 < akgraner> (that way I won't forget)
19:27 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] Announcements: UDS is the last week of the month
19:27 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic: Announcements: UDS is the last week of the month
19:28 < BugeyeD> [ACTION] akgraner to email the list regarding ubuntu open week
19:28 < Mootbot-UK> ACTION received: akgraner to email the list regarding ubuntu open week
19:28 < akgraner> I'll be there and don't forget you can participate in UDS via remote participation
19:28 < holstein> oh yeah?
19:28 < holstein> cool
19:29 < akgraner> yep
19:29 < akgraner> I need to blog about that again
19:29 < BugeyeD> wait, you have a blog?
19:29 < akgraner> :-P
19:29 < BugeyeD> any other announcements? other topics?
19:30 < akgraner> ok that's all I got (sorry for not adding it to the agenda)
19:30 < BugeyeD> no worries, it should end up there now
19:30 < BugeyeD> anyone? beuller?
19:31 < holstein> coxn: is up next in the rotation
19:31 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] Next Meeting Chair: coxn
19:31 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic: Next Meeting Chair: coxn
19:31 < Sgiomlaireachd> what is coxn
19:31 < BugeyeD> i'm not exactly sure, but it has the ability to type
19:31 < _marx_> who
19:32 < BugeyeD> anything else? last call.
19:32 < _marx_> a coxswain is the guy that calls the strokes in a rowboat
19:32 * BugeyeD probably should have known that, but didn't.
19:32 < BugeyeD> not that we used oars on the submarines ...
19:33 < BugeyeD> alrighty then
19:33 < BugeyeD> #endmeeting
19:33 < Mootbot-UK> Meeting finished at 23:36.
}}}

Ubuntu NC LoCo Team IRC Meeting - October 6, 2010

Overview

18:57 <Mootbot-UK> Meeting started at 23:00. The chair is BugeyeD.
18:58 <Mootbot-UK> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/Meeting
19:00 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  Open Action Items: (holstein) document meeting chair schedule
19:05 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  New Items:
19:08 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  New Items: new 'light' theme rolled out on the 13th, check all team pages for breakage
19:15 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  New Items: -n team goals
19:17 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  -n team goals: wiki page updates, color coordination, etc.
19:22 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  New Items: generate list of events with planned attendance
19:22 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  New Items: generate list of media needs (pressed cds vs burned vs usb keys)
19:23 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  New Items: work up a plan of attack for the wiki fixes
19:27 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  Announcements: ubuntu open week is this coming week
19:28 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  Announcements: UDS is the last week of the month
19:28 <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received:  akgraner to email the list regarding ubuntu open week
19:31 <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  Next Meeting Chair: coxn
19:33 <Mootbot-UK> Meeting finished at 23:36.

Log

18:57 < BugeyeD> Roll Call
18:57 < BugeyeD> #startmeeting
18:57 < Mootbot-UK> Meeting started at 23:00. The chair is BugeyeD.
18:57 < Mootbot-UK> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [PROGRESS REPORT], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
18:57 < akgraner> o/
18:57  * _marx_ is really not here
18:57 < BugeyeD> \o
18:58 < BugeyeD> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/Meeting
18:58 < Mootbot-UK> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/Meeting
18:58 < BugeyeD> wow, lotsa contributors. :)
18:58 < adam_vollrath> I'm half here
18:59 < BugeyeD> holstein: you fall in?
18:59 < holstein> \o
18:59 < holstein> hehe
18:59 < BugeyeD> good, you can swim
18:59 < BugeyeD> ignoring new stuff, this should be a quickie meeting. at least according to the agenda.
18:59 < BugeyeD> we ready?
18:59 < holstein> yup
19:00 < BugeyeD> the only thing i know of that's outstanding from last month ...
19:00 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] Open Action Items: (holstein) document meeting chair schedule
19:00 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  Open Action Items: (holstein) document meeting chair schedule
19:00 < holstein> yup
19:00 < holstein> and i made that happen a bit ago
19:00 < holstein> i sent out to the list just now
19:00 < _marx_> linkage
19:00 < holstein> i added the list and order to
19:00 < holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NorthCarolinaTeam/Meeting/Agenda/MeetingChairAgendaPlanningPage
19:00 < BugeyeD> cool, thx
19:01 < holstein> we can make a separate one if needed
19:01 < holstein> but i figure since its just a few of us
19:01 < holstein> and we'll be looking at that page anyways
19:01 < BugeyeD> works for me
19:01 < akgraner> +1 from me
19:01 < BugeyeD> +!
19:02 < BugeyeD> uh, i hate the shift key ...
19:02 < BugeyeD> +1
19:02 < _marx_> looks good
19:02 < holstein> :)
19:02 < _marx_> +1
19:02 < holstein> and if somebody new wants to pop in there
19:02 < holstein> go for it
19:02 < _marx_> wait no vote called
19:02 < BugeyeD> do we need to vote? it was an action item to make a list. he made a list.
19:02 < holstein> yeah, we might not need to
19:02 < holstein> we can
19:03 < akgraner> vote for what?
19:03 < holstein> but i said i would do it last time
19:03 < akgraner> I thought we voted that we wanted people to do it last time
19:03 < holstein> and it was voted in then as a package
19:03 < akgraner> nods
19:04 < BugeyeD> so this is just closure. right?
19:04 < akgraner> yep
19:04 < _marx_> ditto
19:04 < akgraner> the action item from the last vote
19:04 < BugeyeD> anything else that was an action item that didn't actually  make it onto the agenda?
19:05 < akgraner> well nothing from last time - but something that came up yesterday
19:05 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] New Items:
19:05 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  New Items:
19:05 < akgraner> So if you go to the wiki pages and change your preferences to the "light" theme
19:06 < holstein> akgraner: personal pages?
19:06 < akgraner> all pages
19:06 < holstein> ok
19:06 < akgraner> this is the view starting on the 13th
19:06 < _marx_> user preferences on the wiki
19:06 < akgraner> the wiki's get the new theme next week
19:06 < holstein> is there anything we need to do?
19:06 < BugeyeD> does this get rolled out automatically? are you suggesting we go ahead and change just to see it?
19:06 < holstein> in preperation?
19:07 < _marx_> it's pretty ugly currently
19:07 < akgraner> I just wanted everyone to be prepared
19:07 < akgraner> that we may have to fix things
19:07 < holstein> cool
19:07 < holstein> Sgiomlaireachd: you still around?
19:07 < BugeyeD> i believe moinmoin has a method of dictating a theme for a given page. 
19:08 < akgraner> yes - but - after the 13th the default will be the light theme
19:08 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] New Items: new 'light' theme rolled out on the 13th, check all team pages for breakage
19:08 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  New Items: new 'light' theme rolled out on the 13th, check all team pages for breakage
19:08 < akgraner> go to user preferences and change the theme and you'll see how it's going to look
19:08 < holstein> great heads up akgraner  :)
19:09 < Sgiomlaireachd> yes i am
19:09 < holstein> cool, just making sure you get counted present if you want to be Sgiomlaireachd
19:10 < akgraner> also I wanted to mention lets start thinking about goals for the -n cycle
19:10 < BugeyeD> hmm ... changing theme yields internal server error ...
19:10 < akgraner> UDS is the last week of the month
19:10 < holstein> :/
19:10 < akgraner> BugeyeD, refresh and you should be able to see it
19:10 < akgraner> that happened to me yesterday when I changed my preferences as well
19:11 < BugeyeD> looks like it's going to time out. i think everyone on the planet followed your suggestion. right now.
19:11 < BugeyeD> um, ewww ...
19:11  * _marx_ chuckles
19:11 < BugeyeD> so far i'm not a fan
19:11 < BugeyeD> it's colored like a retro kitchen
19:11 < akgraner> exactly
19:12 < _marx_> me neither
19:12 < akgraner> things like lines in the table and lines between sections aren't there anymore
19:12 < BugeyeD> definitely does not jive with our light blue stuff
19:12 < akgraner> nods
19:12 < BugeyeD> you're right, borders are missing
19:12 < akgraner> so I was thinking one of the goals for the -n cycle would be updating the wikis to go with the new theme
19:12 < _marx_> dang i thought that was a purple ;)
19:13 < BugeyeD> so is this a work in progress?
19:13 < holstein> we just got our light blue stuff :/
19:13 < akgraner> BugeyeD, yep
19:13 < holstein> eh
19:13 < akgraner> wikis are always a work in progress
19:13 < BugeyeD> good. so hopefully it'll get somewhat better (borders back) by itself.
19:13 < holstein> i dont think its all that bad
19:13 < BugeyeD> it's almost the color of circus peanuts
19:14 < BugeyeD> okay, plenty of work to get our colors re-coordinated.
19:14 < BugeyeD> anything else to add to the agenda?
19:14 < akgraner> -n team goals
19:15 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] New Items: -n team goals
19:15 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  New Items: -n team goals
19:15 < adam_vollrath> what page are y'all looking at?
19:15 < adam_vollrath> er were looking at
19:15 < akgraner> we need to think about what we want to accomplish during the 11.04 release cycle
19:15 < BugeyeD> i'm just looking at our own team pages after having changed the theme to 'light'
19:15 < akgraner> adam_vollrath, our team wikis but you have to go under user preferences and change the theme to the 'light' theme
19:16 < BugeyeD> adam_vollrath: which means you have to log in.
19:16 < adam_vollrath> o
19:16 < adam_vollrath> nevermind thanx
19:16 < akgraner> hehe
19:16 < BugeyeD> without logging in and setting your own preference, you get the default which has not yet been changed
19:16 < BugeyeD> (thankfully)
19:17 < BugeyeD> akgraner: suggested goals?
19:17 < akgraner> yeah - wiki page updates :-)
19:17 < BugeyeD> my goal is to keep my chin above water
19:17 < akgraner> also a way to distribute the CD's around the team
19:17 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] -n team goals: wiki page updates, color coordination, etc.
19:17 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  -n team goals: wiki page updates, color coordination, etc.
19:18 < akgraner> we need to try and list what events we as a team want to participate in during that cycle
19:18 < holstein> maybe we can have a devide and conquer kind of IRC attack on the wikis sometime soon
19:18 < BugeyeD> do you guys do ubuntu hour together? that'd be my suggestion for cd distribution
19:18 < akgraner> sounds like a great plan for say a Global Jam :-)
19:18 < holstein> sure
19:19 < akgraner> BugeyeD, I meant  - to get them to you all in the Winston area, to holstein et all in the Asheville area and others
19:19 < holstein> akgraner: you get them?
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19:19 < holstein> the discs?
19:19 < BugeyeD> akgraner: exactly. come back to winston and have a cup'o'joe with us   :D
19:19 < akgraner> POC for the various areas based on the events people are attending etc
19:19 < holstein> i go that way go that way often enough
19:19 < holstein> if you get some to me
19:20 < holstein> i can get them to someone who would meet me
19:20  * holstein was out in raliegh a couple weeks ago
19:20  * BugeyeD will be there monday
19:21 < akgraner> so I would say - for the next meeting we work on 1 - list of events people will be attending  2- who needs pressed CD's vs burned cd's vs usb 
keys
19:21 < akgraner> 2 - game plan for attacking the wikis
19:21 < holstein> i like it
19:22 < akgraner> 3- a simple way to get the word out in each of our areas about Ubuntu
19:22 < akgraner> (start simple then add to it)
19:22 < holstein> maybe just the FB page
19:22 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] New Items: generate list of events with planned attendance
19:22 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  New Items: generate list of events with planned attendance
19:22 < holstein> a twitter
19:22 < akgraner> we have those :-)
19:22 < akgraner> ubuntunc on twitter and Identi.ca
19:22 < holstein> next time :) we'll get more into that
19:22 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] New Items: generate list of media needs (pressed cds vs burned vs usb keys)
19:22 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  New Items: generate list of media needs (pressed cds vs burned vs usb keys)
19:22 < holstein> thats just easy
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19:23 < holstein> and effective
19:23 < akgraner> and whatever other people want to add to the list
19:23 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] New Items: work up a plan of attack for the wiki fixes
19:23 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  New Items: work up a plan of attack for the wiki fixes
19:23 < akgraner> nothing is set in stone and if other people have cool ideas then we just need to get them added and acted upon
19:24  * holstein wants a USB key :/
19:24 < holstein> i didnt realize that was an option
19:24  * BugeyeD does too
19:24 < akgraner> but lets have a UDS-N goals landing area - so we can all see what people are wanting or working on and can decide what and where they would li
ke to help
19:24 < akgraner> holstein, you have to make them :-)
19:24 < holstein> OH
19:24 < holstein> well, i got one then
19:24 < BugeyeD> i just read on our local list that ubuntu has an app for that
19:24 < holstein> i was thinking some fancy thing with a sticker one it
19:24 < holstein> on it*
19:24 < akgraner> I try to have one of each option for people when I go to an event - but failed to bring them to the last event I was at
19:25 < BugeyeD> usb-creator
19:25 < holstein> BugeyeD: it works pretty well
19:25 < BugeyeD> never knew about it until today
19:25 < holstein> i usually end up using unetbootin though
19:25 < BugeyeD> i've always rolled my own, not always a pretty sight
19:25 < holstein> :)
19:26 < akgraner> Oh Ubuntu Open Week is next week
19:26 < holstein> i like it
19:26 < akgraner> in case people want to attend
19:26 < holstein> can we get an email out to the list with the minutes?
19:26 < holstein> or something
19:26 < akgraner> I need to email the list about that with links and stuff
19:27 < holstein> with these upcoming branstorming ideas
19:27 < holstein> akgraner: cool :)
19:27 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] Announcements: ubuntu open week is this coming week
19:27 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  Announcements: ubuntu open week is this coming week
19:27 < akgraner> action me to email the list about Open Week
19:27 < akgraner> (that way I won't forget)
19:27 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] Announcements: UDS is the last week of the month
19:27 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  Announcements: UDS is the last week of the month
19:28 < BugeyeD> [ACTION] akgraner to email the list regarding ubuntu open week
19:28 < Mootbot-UK> ACTION received:  akgraner to email the list regarding ubuntu open week
19:28 < akgraner> I'll be there and don't forget you can participate in UDS via remote participation
19:28 < holstein> oh yeah?
19:28 < holstein> cool
19:29 < akgraner> yep
19:29 < akgraner> I need to blog about that again
19:29 < BugeyeD> wait, you have a blog?
19:29 < akgraner> :-P
19:29 < BugeyeD> any other announcements? other topics?
19:30 < akgraner> ok that's all I got (sorry for not adding it to the agenda)
19:30 < BugeyeD> no worries, it should end up there now
19:30 < BugeyeD> anyone? beuller?
19:31 < holstein> coxn: is up next in the rotation
19:31 < BugeyeD> [TOPIC] Next Meeting Chair: coxn
19:31 < Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  Next Meeting Chair: coxn
19:31 < Sgiomlaireachd> what is coxn
19:31 < BugeyeD> i'm not exactly sure, but it has the ability to type
19:31 < _marx_> who
19:32 < BugeyeD> anything else? last call.
19:32 < _marx_> a coxswain is the guy that calls the strokes in a rowboat
19:32  * BugeyeD probably should have known that, but didn't.
19:32 < BugeyeD> not that we used oars on the submarines ...
19:33 < BugeyeD> alrighty then
19:33 < BugeyeD> #endmeeting
19:33 < Mootbot-UK> Meeting finished at 23:36.

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