== Discussion Points == * Feisty party was a blast! * Website and server details * Moving the website to a new server * Subteam objectives == Log == {{{ 20:01:23 -Vorian/#ubuntu-ohio- meeting is on! 20:01:46 * bordy (n=chris@153-161.127-70.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #ubuntu-ohio 20:01:46 Evening everyone :) 20:03:02 Evening. 20:03:02 howdy 20:03:02 hello, watchmancole 20:03:02 hey jgedeon 20:03:02 well, jgedeon is who I am because of who we are... 20:03:02 Hola, benos noches 20:03:02 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to Vorian 20:03:02 * Vorian sets ban on %*!*@unaffiliated/pwill/bot/ohiobot 20:03:02 * ChanServ removes channel operator status from Vorian 20:03:02 just for the meeting PWill 20:03:02 :) 20:03:02 * bordy grumbles something about Vorian's mean operator tendencies 20:03:03 ;) 20:03:03 * EverythingEvil (n=Everythi@cpe-65-189-223-189.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #ubuntu-ohio 20:03:03 bordy, I muted a bot. 20:03:11 i saw, was just commenting from my banning last night. lol 20:03:11 ok 20:03:21 there is a LOT to cover tonight 20:03:26 dont mind me, doing cisco 20:04:21 whoops, here now 20:04:26 First up, I think we had a fine party this past saturday 20:04:49 I would second that. 20:04:51 +1 20:04:58 +2 20:05:04 It would be cool if we could have a get together more often 20:05:23 i can agree to that 20:05:36 That was a 3-hour drive, cant do that all the time :( 20:05:42 lol 20:05:43 heh 20:06:12 Company write off here. LOL 20:06:23 :) 20:06:23 3 times a year isn't too bad 20:06:31 well, 20:06:47 hey, I see some of my relatives that much. :) 20:06:52 we could set something up monthly, and if you can show great. If not, no big deal. 20:07:26 hmm 20:07:27 ok 20:07:39 on to the first topic 20:07:43 the WebSite 20:07:49 jacobmp92 and PWill 20:07:50 go 20:08:07 which website topic? the one about moving or the very first about consolidating 20:08:14 or both :) 20:08:30 I have something to toss in the mix as well 20:08:34 * Brady_M (n=o0splitp@cpe-24-166-229-191.columbus.res.rr.com) has joined #ubuntu-ohio 20:08:36 but both 20:08:49 * meatballhat (n=dbuch@ubuntu/member/meatballhat) has joined #ubuntu-ohio 20:08:50 ok 20:08:51 I'll toss out this real quick 20:09:08 * meatballhat sneaks in back door ..... 20:09:09 * Vorian finds a link 20:09:24 33 people in here??!!?! ... how 'bout that! 20:09:29 :) 20:09:33 https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu...+question/5658 20:09:51 ah, yes, i did see that earlier 20:10:13 I spoke with Matthew, and he gave us the thumbs up. 20:10:23 nice 20:10:25 that would *probably* be on a completely different FTP account, and would not be able to integrate w/ website too easily 20:10:30 (with as much space as we need) 20:10:38 but +1 on that 20:11:24 Well, with the other topic, I figured we could use another sub-domain, just in case. :) 20:11:29 * lyceum (n=guest@adsl-68-75-18-44.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net) has joined #ubuntu-ohio 20:11:32 yeah 20:11:41 anywhos, http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/ 20:11:52 quick poll, does it look simple enough? easy to understand? 20:11:59 sure 20:12:11 I think it is looking better. 20:12:23 Yes, why isn't 7.04 on there though ? 20:12:25 and i know i *still* need to clean up the F2F module and get accounts created and such 20:12:25 * bordy likes it 20:12:28 jimbo2150: oops! 20:12:52 jimbo2150, because 7.04 is no good 20:12:54 :P 20:13:03 according to rrittenhouse 20:13:05 :-D 20:13:08 You almost had me.... naw :P 20:13:11 LOL 20:13:21 eh 20:13:27 what about me 20:13:28 haha 20:13:41 * Vorian whispers we have a new channel #ubuntu-ohio-edu 20:13:43 Question: Have we figured out what the different engines will be used for? Meaning Wiki and Launchpad 20:13:44 ok, its on 7.04 now :) 20:14:04 yay! :) 20:14:24 jacobmp92, what about me? :P 20:14:26 haha 20:14:34 website part 2: moving servers....? PWill, you there? :) 20:14:35 hehe 20:14:43 * hackle577 (n=adam@ip-134-53-120-98.dhcp.muohio.edu) has left #ubuntu-ohio 20:14:57 hackle577 20:15:11 you muted it :-P 20:15:24 :) 20:15:51 so the big question is weather to move the site off canonical hosting... 20:16:13 ultimately I want to talk with PWill and get his opinion in the end 20:16:16 I do agree that phpmyadmin is needed atleast in todays site engines. 20:16:38 the current site offerings do not meet certain needs: SSH, secure transfer, php/sql 5, etc etc 20:16:53 * lyceum (n=guest@adsl-68-75-18-44.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net) has left #ubuntu-ohio 20:16:54 SSH access isn't offered by many and is it really needed? 20:17:00 not to mention FTP seems to go down whenever it pleases 20:17:00 I have extra space if you need it, I barely use mine :) 20:17:13 jgedeon: trust me, it is ;) 20:17:15 Yes FTP is a problem. 20:17:33 point being: anybody remember the original offer back in December? 20:17:37 jacobmp92: could you expand on that? 20:17:51 jacobmp92, dig it up 20:17:58 from the forum 20:18:03 jgedeon: SSH is essential for unzipping.. managing, etc 20:18:06 Vorian: searching 20:18:20 jgedeon: and with vim, there is no need to reupload 20:18:24 I second that, SSH is much faster than ftp with compressed files. 20:18:44 * lyceum (n=lyceum@adsl-68-75-18-44.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net) has joined #ubuntu-ohio 20:18:51 Is there no control panel with where we are now? Not that I am saying we need to stay with them. 20:19:16 jgedeon: there is absolutely no controls anywhere, other than FTP 20:19:22 Ok. 20:19:24 we had to install our own mini sql client 20:19:31 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=308556 20:19:48 there were two threads that were merged 20:20:01 Vorian: thats why i couldnt find it then :-p 20:20:30 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...9&postcount=22 to be specific 20:20:32 http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1806 20:20:37 It may be a bit strange to follow 20:21:10 ie, this server has SSH, unlimited MySQL, 2.? TB limit (for my whole account, but thats plenty) 20:21:16 200GB+ space 20:21:43 not to mention mysql 5 and php 5 as CGI, with no permission problems or safe mode troubles 20:21:47 I have that too :) 20:22:07 jimbo2150: dreamhoster? ;) 20:22:13 Yep 20:22:19 * Vorian does too 20:22:21 bluehost 20:22:51 I looked at them first, but decided to go with DH 20:22:54 dreamhost downtime < bluehost 20:23:03 but that would be brand loyalty, now, wouldnt it 20:23:09 ignore that :) 20:23:43 anyway 20:23:52 the site is already up from the development version 20:24:00 http://files.codechunk.net/ohioloco 20:24:21 (of course it would still be ohio.ubuntu-us.org if we make the switch) 20:25:24 nice 20:25:31 and... I can provide account access thru the DH web panel to manage MySQL databases, subdomains, and such 20:25:42 I have hosting too https://www.securepaynet.net/gdshop/...itpaw&ci=1782& 20:25:53 I can host, but ssh isn't availible 20:26:20 Brady_M: don't you have to pay WWD for that? 20:26:36 DH allows SSH/FTP on any user you set up, but you can restrict it (if neccessary) 20:26:36 Who is the host that we are considering? 20:26:44 jacobmp92: 3.25 a month?! yea. that's it ; ) 20:26:49 hehe 20:27:03 jgedeon: dreamhost, no extra costs 20:27:21 also: there are six backups made of all files 20:27:25 just handing out help for it. 20:27:33 two hourly, two daily, and two monthly 20:28:12 also this is a tax writeoff so np 20:28:50 ok, so lets poll it for a week 20:28:56 and move on :) 20:29:05 Vorian: let me ask PWill what he thinks about it first 20:29:09 next topic 20:29:42 Does someone have a name of a site hosted by them please. 20:29:54 techie-jim.net :P 20:29:58 I'll but something else in if that's ok? 20:30:01 jgedeon: http://codechunk.net http://oratos.com http://fosswire.com 20:30:04 yup 20:30:08 TY 20:31:45 Anyone interested in hosting an Ubucon? 20:31:56 * Vorian is very interested 20:32:14 Vorian: sorry explain? 20:32:19 Vorian: we agreed that there will be a bake sale, yes? 20:32:33 meatballhat, so say we all :D 20:32:54 excellent 20:33:25 like this one that was in NYC 20:33:37 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TheUbucon/NYC2007/Schedule 20:34:42 It essentially is a Canonical sponsored install fest/ short conference/ and a place where normal people can feel "ok" about using linux 20:34:54 ic 20:34:55 I would like to dub it the Buckeye Ubucon 20:35:15 Isnt the next one in Spain? 20:35:25 * lyceum (n=lyceum@adsl-68-75-18-44.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net) has left #ubuntu-ohio 20:35:27 jimbo2150: thats UDS 20:35:34 developer meetings 20:35:40 * Brady_M thinks I got a gaming/internet hotspot here, but out in the middle of nowhere. I got a uilding so... 20:35:53 and a building 20:35:55 lol 20:36:05 ah 20:36:27 jimbo2150, yes! the next Ubucon is in Sevilla 20:36:29 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TheUbucon/Sevilla 20:36:53 which happens to be the same place they are holding the developers summit 20:36:55 bah! 20:37:00 * jacobmp92 was wrong 20:37:00 :) 20:37:11 halfway 20:37:31 I can offer late night cow tipping for entertainment and the pool hall is iopen :) 20:37:52 The trick to this is very very good planning 20:38:00 And 20:38:04 Great Guests 20:38:39 How many people do you think our little old team could get to attend an event like this? 20:39:27 judging by the 35 at panera, if we advertise this we might get 100+ 20:39:40 * Vorian pokes meatballhat ^ 20:39:47 :D 20:39:48 jacobmp92, I agree completely 20:39:51 yesssssss? 20:40:13 look what jacobmp92 put down as a number 20:40:38 Vorian, know you guys have moved on, but I swear by A Small Orange hosting, asmallorange.com 20:40:52 lol, thanks Ax3 :) 20:40:55 you might check that out if you guys are looking for a move :) 20:40:59 sory i just got in 20:41:04 thats fine 20:41:20 Ax3, there are a few of us who have plenty of room to spare :) 20:41:25 that be crazy .... what a great turnout :D 20:41:41 hehe, don't expect me to drive up to ohio tho :P 20:41:54 I think it could be much higher though. 20:42:27 I'll email Jono to get a scope of what we would be looking at. 20:43:39 quiet crowd tonight 20:43:50 boo!!!!!! 20:43:59 * jacobmp92 stands up and claps 20:44:02 * jimbo2150 jumps in his seat 20:44:06 im still reading what you all have written :) 20:44:10 :-p 20:44:12 * meatballhat throws chair through window 20:44:15 * Brady_M scream timmmey! 20:44:22 * Ax3 pokes bordy 20:44:54 * jacobmp92 goes to prepare some pies 20:45:03 * meatballhat pretends he's a Borg and walks like Frankenstein into Vorian ... pushes him slowly and awkwardly 20:45:17 aaronbeekay Airforce5555 Brady_M EverythingEvil ianmcorvidae jbsn jgedeon joshjosh lando moe_fwacky PqSe_ PWill rodolfo1974 rrittenhouse Seekker spaz watchmancole 20:45:28 :) 20:45:28 ? 20:45:30 ok 20:45:41 is there a /cs command for that??? 20:45:42 ? 20:45:59 /cs !wallflowers 20:46:08 meatballhat, /notice 20:46:13 Taking a step back, If you guys need another coder, I have 10+ years PHP, 2+ years ColdFusion, some Java, and learning Python this summer. 20:46:44 jimbo2150: you want a job? 20:47:17 heh 20:47:17 ok 20:47:22 lol, already got one untill I get out of school. I just meant for the group 20:47:35 herding cats eh? 20:47:52 jimbo2150: move to Cleveland ... sacrifice your soul for a tiny, struggling company ... it's the _BEST_ 20:48:02 Vorian: watched that eh? 20:48:10 several times 20:48:20 meatballhat: Thanks, talk to me again when I have a degree :) 20:48:23 job market in cleveland is terrible 20:48:47 EverythingEvil: yes it is 20:48:49 EverythingEvil hits nail on head ... grazes /me thumb 20:49:07 Progressive owns the cleveland job market it seems. 20:49:19 yea, i've gottten offers from them 20:49:24 jgedeon speaks truf 20:49:32 kusinich *cough* 20:49:41 LOL 20:49:48 Vorian: he's the Ross Perot of NE Ohio! 20:49:54 lol 20:50:13 He's the little hitler of NE Ohio 20:50:19 He is very entertaining, thats a fact jack! 20:50:25 But his wife..... Now that is another story.... 20:50:30 anyway.... 20:50:33 egad 20:50:37 lol 20:50:48 if meeting == chaos: 20:51:00 so, anyone not cool with a Ubucon? (Ubuntu Conference) 20:51:19 +1 for it 20:51:37 * EverythingEvil hates cisco systems 20:51:38 thanks Brady_M :) 20:51:44 Vorian: I know you didn't invent the word, but Ubucon sounds like we're *tricking* people with Ubuntu .... (ahem ...'con') 20:51:48 :D 20:51:50 +1 but cant go 20:51:53 hehe 20:52:03 +1 btw 20:52:18 +100 20:52:34 ok, I'll pursue it 20:52:34 next up 20:52:36 +3.1415926538 20:52:50 stop throwing pi's 20:53:00 :-D 20:53:03 its so irrational 20:53:05 Vorian: you know an event planner you're keeping secret, btw? 20:53:23 yes, jono bacon 20:53:25 :) 20:53:26 heh, irrational. 20:53:32 Vorian: excellent 20:54:05 :D 20:54:08 Subteams - Establishing goals, assigning leaders to empty posts, and recruitment 20:54:33 all teams filled 20:54:37 all teams running 20:54:51 the Education team will be very busy after friday 20:55:06 The New User team is waiting for accounts 20:55:16 (oops) 20:55:19 Maybe we need an "event" committee 20:55:56 Vorian: What would the New User team do? 20:56:11 watchmancole, help support new linux/ubuntu users 20:56:19 ah, gotcha 20:56:29 there is a press release ready to roll any day now.... 20:56:30 ... 20:56:32 ...... 20:56:34 .. 20:56:34 . 20:56:36 .... 20:56:39 or not 20:56:43 ? 20:56:46 but one day there will be 20:56:46 ? 20:56:58 press release ... hmmmmmmm 20:57:05 why does that sound familiar? 20:57:17 Vorian just said it :) 20:57:36 hmmmmmmm .... I seem to remember .... hmmmmmmm 20:57:38 =] 20:58:08 something about sheep moms and something 20:58:24 Vorian: that's a dead end 20:58:27 sorry 20:58:35 ok 20:58:38 * Brady_M is confused 20:58:42 anybody around here know proper writing style? 20:58:50 * Vorian ducks 20:58:57 "Inverted Pyramid" ring a bell? 20:58:58 * Brady_M blank look 20:59:07 meatballhat: ugh 20:59:13 * meatballhat is bitter as hell :P 20:59:15 * jgedeon scratches head. 20:59:18 journalism teacher forcing it into heads 20:59:27 then criticizes it 20:59:33 jacobmp92: so I take it you're not a fan? :D 20:59:40 hmm 20:59:42 meh 20:59:45 so/so 21:01:12 "Jane is a champion boxer with a dog named Mambo. She won an award last night for being awesome. Later on, she will be meeting her arch-nemesis, Fanny McGorkle. It will be quite a fight!" 21:01:32 "Jane has been boxing since the age of 3 .... " 21:01:48 "Jane's dog, Mambo, has quite the personality ...." 21:02:02 rivaling Lassie? 21:02:03 "Fanny McGorkle is a champion in her own right ...." 21:02:14 "Be sure to tune into the fight ...." 21:02:14 too familiar 21:02:18 21:02:55 * Vorian applauds 21:02:57 who wants to be on the Marketing Subteam???? :D 21:03:37 * meatballhat is fully absorbed in *completely* overhauling the DIY Marketing site :D 21:03:53 (breaking the awkward silence) 21:03:59 heeheeheehee 21:04:11 jacobmp92: you aren't allowed to volunteer, btw ... ;-) 21:04:23 * jacobmp92 does a woot 21:04:28 * Brady_M Anyone.... 21:05:15 wow ... :D I didn't think I was _that_ scary :P 21:05:18 one square per .... 21:05:37 21:05:50 send a shout out, maybe these peeps are looking away 21:05:51 Our meetings are very unorthodox... 21:06:05 jimbo2150, its an unofficial meeting. 21:06:09 =] 21:06:24 next week is official, woot 21:06:27 oi .... yes, we keep it silly on all but the first meet of the month :P 21:08:07 alrighty then 21:08:21 Library Partnerships - Where are your Ubuntu CDs? 21:08:24 ^ Jim Carry 21:08:31 * ChanServ gives voice to Vorian 21:08:47 who did that? 21:08:54 * meatballhat runs 21:08:56 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to Vorian 21:08:56 * ChanServ removes channel operator status from Vorian 21:09:08 * ChanServ removes voice from Vorian 21:09:19 * meatballhat returns 21:09:24 meatballhat: I sent a few edubuntu and ubuntu cd's to the Library Administrator and asked her to call you again yesterday 21:09:31 nice python usage meatballhat 21:09:34 Brady_M: awesome!!!!!! 21:10:00 should i see if UAkron library wants some? 21:10:08 i think i have some on order 21:10:11 EverythingEvil: absolutely! 21:10:24 rr 21:10:46 rrittenhouse: Your Cd's mailed today 5 of each 21:11:42 completely unrelated: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_tXcRYOYZ0 21:12:41 TOO much time :) LOL 21:12:52 :-D 21:14:53 * meatballhat throws Nerf football at jacobmp92 21:15:02 hehe 21:15:06 lawl 21:15:33 jacobmp92: you got pretty messed up, now didn't you? Those things hurt! 21:15:53 yep. 21:15:58 scarred for life :-P 21:16:20 a beatiful, Nerf-colored scar 21:16:28 ok 21:16:32 s/beatiful/beautiful/ 21:16:38 since the idiot is not here 21:16:46 I am going to plug the EDU team 21:16:58 theidiotthatisme! my dude! 21:17:18 We set up a channel for the EDU team 21:17:26 #ubuntu-ohio-edu 21:17:55 to help in discussing all the new and exciting things coming your way 21:18:12 very cool! 21:18:17 We are going to have a moodle 21:18:50 if it's so kewl meatballhat, why aren't you there 8-) 21:18:50 this moodle? http://moodle.org/ 21:18:56 yep 21:19:21 cool :) 21:19:27 Are we all going to get Ubuntu-Ohio-Certified? 21:19:48 lol 21:19:49 :)}}}