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''ACTION:'' balloons to chase up the incorrect meeting time on qa.ubuntu.com (balloons, 14:06:26)



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''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-August/035675.html (balloons, 14:11:10)

 *Other topics
''LINK:'' http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2053135 (smartboyhw, 14:14:26)
''LINK:'' http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1999827 (smartboyhw, 14:28:14)
''LINK:'' http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2052509 (smartboyhw, 14:28:23)



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 14:01:03 <balloons> #startmeeting ubuntu QA community

 14:01:03 <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Aug 29 14:01:03 2012 UTC. The chair is balloons. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 14:01:03 <meetingology>

 14:01:03 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired

 14:01:14 <balloons> who's about

 14:01:15 <balloons> ?

 14:01:27 <sagaci_> o/ just observing

 14:01:29 <smartboyhw> o/

 14:02:24 <balloons> ok, I'm filling in for astraljava looks like.. If he appears, I'll turn the meeting back over to him :-)

 14:02:29 <balloons> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Updates

 14:02:42 <smartboyhw> o/

 14:03:45 <balloons> So on the ubuntu front a few things are happening. Beta 1 is next week. This week we are chatting about the alternate cd's being dropped, and readying ourselves for next week. If the alt's do get dropped, we need to be prepared to migrate the testcases over for the desktop cd's

 14:03:49 <balloons> yes smartboyhw ?

 14:03:59 <smartboyhw> Er, the previous action items

 14:04:01 <smartboyhw> balloons to chase up the incorrect meeting time on qa.ubuntu.com

 14:04:01 <smartboyhw> phillw balloons to continue to update Wiki

 14:04:16 <smartboyhw> I think you didn't update the meeting time... Or am I wrong?

 14:05:01 <smartboyhw> ..

 14:05:43 <smartboyhw> ..

 14:05:44 <balloons> smartboyhw, yes thank you..

 14:05:48 <smartboyhw> ;)

 14:06:17 <balloons> there is still an oustanding ticket to get the time fixed on qa.ubuntu.com; I cannot do it

 14:06:26 <balloons> [ACTION] balloons to chase up the incorrect meeting time on qa.ubuntu.com

 14:06:26 * meetingology balloons to chase up the incorrect meeting time on qa.ubuntu.com

 14:06:30 <smartboyhw> :)

 14:07:08 <balloons> phillw and myself have continued updating the wiki.. there are a few pages still needing to be linked into the main site.. namely the testcase admins pages

 14:07:30 <smartboyhw> Thanks balloons...

 14:08:03 <balloons> ok, moving on

 14:08:24 <balloons> [Other topics] Anything else needing discussion?

 14:08:35 <smartboyhw> I'm afraid not:)

 14:08:36 <balloons> We're going to be quick today :-)

 14:09:37 <balloons> As I announced last week the images have been quite erratic on being built. This is likely to continue this week

 14:09:56 <smartboyhw> Sure, I didn't get my Ubuntu Studio image for a WEEK.:(

 14:10:07 <balloons> smartboyhw, is there a new one yet this week?

 14:10:18 <smartboyhw> No. It's still 20120821

 14:10:43 <smartboyhw> upgrade cases are on 20120824

 14:10:48 <smartboyhw> xubuntu alternate on 20120822

 14:11:06 <smartboyhw> ..

 14:12:10 <balloons> yikes.. Well, fingers crossed, we'll see some working images this week

 14:12:17 <smartboyhw> :)

 14:12:27 <balloons> wonder if the gtk2-indicator issue is still plaguing these

 14:12:31 <balloons> I haven't looked today

 14:12:35 <balloons> ok, any other questions?

 14:12:39 <smartboyhw> I don't know!

 14:13:03 <balloons> if not, we'll finish this out

 14:13:27 <smartboyhw> Finish meeting then...Is it the shortest one?

 14:14:17 <balloons> #endmeeting
 14:05:03 <balloons> #startmeeting

 14:05:03 <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Sep 5 14:05:03 2012 UTC. The chair is balloons. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 14:05:03 <meetingology>

 14:05:03 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired

 14:05:36 <balloons> Let's dive right into the topics for today shall we?

 14:05:45 <smartboyhw> YEAH!

 14:05:49 <phillw> +1

 14:05:52 <smartboyhw> +1

 14:06:27 <balloons> [TOPIC] Previous Actions

 14:06:32 <smartboyhw> Sure wait

 14:06:42 <balloons> none listed.. anything to follow-up on here?

 14:06:51 <smartboyhw> balloons to chase up the incorrect meeting time on qa.ubuntu.com

 14:06:55 <smartboyhw> This one...

 14:07:02 <balloons> smartboyhw, ahh yes

 14:07:13 * balloons goes to look

 14:07:23 <smartboyhw> Also phillw balloons to continue to update Wiki progress update please:)

 14:07:45 <smartboyhw> Not yet edited balloons, the time:(

 14:08:01 <phillw> smartboyhw: work continues, the bug section has been tidyed up.

 14:08:06 <smartboyhw> OK

 14:08:12 <smartboyhw> Thanks phillw

 14:08:23 <balloons> smartboyhw, no status update on qa.ubuntu.com sadly

 14:08:30 <smartboyhw> ...

 14:08:40 <balloons> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Updates

 14:08:54 <balloons> Ok, as everyone knows it's beta 1 time

 14:09:50 <balloons> The biggest news for this milestone is the dropping of alternate images for ubuntu

 14:10:06 <smartboyhw> +1

 14:10:48 <balloons> For the sake of the chat, I will supply the link to the discussion

 14:11:10 <balloons> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-August/035675.html

 14:11:18 <balloons> any further discussion on the change?

 14:11:59 <smartboyhw> No!

 14:12:34 <balloons> Alright, the beta testing itself is going well, although we've had some respins during the testing

 14:12:47 <smartboyhw> Yep so many for Ubuntu Studio due to ubiquity

 14:12:48 <balloons> the images were in quite a state of flux before the milestone

 14:13:02 <balloons> so they are still being ironed out

 14:13:49 <balloons> [TOPICS] Other topics

 14:13:59 <balloons> [TOPIC] Other topics

 14:14:02 * balloons sighs

 14:14:03 <smartboyhw> \o

 14:14:11 <balloons> go ahead smartboyhw

 14:14:26 <smartboyhw> #link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2053135

 14:14:41 <smartboyhw> balloons have a look at it, not good

 14:15:27 <smartboyhw> Someone is having negative comments on the ISO QA Tracker

 14:15:41 <smartboyhw> So how can we improve it, or should we ignore their feedback?

 14:15:42 <smartboyhw> ,,

 14:15:43 <smartboyhw> ..

 14:15:49 * smartboyhw sighs

 14:16:13 <balloons> smartboyhw, I saw the thread

 14:16:17 <smartboyhw> :)

 14:16:38 <balloons> we can take the feedback and try and understand what's causing them issues

 14:17:08 <smartboyhw> OK

 14:18:01 <phillw> \o

 14:18:02 <balloons> communication and responsiveness from the development team is an on-going thing.. We'll continue to try and fill in the gap for both sides

 14:18:16 <balloons> thanks smartboyhw.

 14:18:19 <balloons> phillw, go ahead

 14:18:21 <smartboyhw> :)

 14:18:58 <phillw> I'd like to put on record my thanks to stgraber for the work done on the tracker so bugs are carried over when respins occur.

 14:19:17 <phillw> it has long been a thorn in our side.

 14:19:18 <smartboyhw> +1

 14:19:42 <balloons> sure looks nice doesn't it? :-)

 14:19:43 <phillw> lubuntu has two show-stopper bugs :(

 14:20:03 <phillw> bug http://launchpad.net/bugs/1041625

 14:20:04 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1041625 in xserver-xorg-video-openchrome (Ubuntu) "X not starting after install [openchrome]" [High,Triaged]

 14:20:19 <phillw> bug http://launchpad.net/bugs/1040544

 14:20:21 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1040544 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installer dialog does not come up" [Undecided,New]

 14:20:28 <smartboyhw> Alright

 14:20:45 <phillw> both are out of our hands.

 14:21:09 <smartboyhw> Ubuntu Studio builds got a hell lot of respins for the last few days due to ubiquity being unstable. However the new build works fine

 14:21:19 <balloons> phillw, likely will turn into respins?

 14:21:39 <balloons> at least one is an upstream issue

 14:21:41 <phillw> balloons: a respin is better than no release on those two.

 14:22:44 <balloons> of course.. not sure the openchrome will be solved, but it looks like a fix can be had for it

 14:23:10 <balloons> the other one is a dosey.. lars always manages to find those exotic bugs doesn't he?

 14:23:12 <phillw> as it is killing both of the ppc iso's one of them really does need fixing

 14:23:13 <balloons> +1 for lars

 14:23:35 <smartboyhw> +1

 14:23:55 <phillw> he's a good tester :)

 14:23:58 <balloons> :-)

 14:24:02 <balloons> anything else?

 14:24:21 <smartboyhw> No

 14:24:27 <phillw> oh yes, I forgot.

 14:24:41 <smartboyhw> phillw: ?

 14:24:42 <phillw> lubuntu now has an ARM iso (it arrived overnight)

 14:24:55 <phillw> the arm community are looking after it.

 14:24:58 <smartboyhw> Yep, sadly I don't have ARM

 14:25:02 <balloons> phillw, yes, please share the story

 14:25:18 <smartboyhw> :)

 14:25:41 <phillw> I was asked if lubuntu would object to it. Some ARM machines cannot cope with full ubuntu install, so they wanted a light weight vriant

 14:26:04 <phillw> I was on the release channel and

 14:26:12 <phillw> so it seems lubuntu came to mind,

 14:27:14 <phillw> it was a long term goal for lubuntu to have arm, but we lacked resources - these have now been provided by the arm community.

 14:27:20 <phillw> ..

 14:27:27 <balloons> thanks phillw

 14:27:30 <smartboyhw> \o

 14:27:40 <balloons> I think it's exciting, and glad to see if all coming together so quick

 14:27:49 <balloons> smartboyhw, go ahead

 14:28:01 <smartboyhw> Er, wait while I give the links

 14:28:14 <smartboyhw> #link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1999827

 14:28:23 <smartboyhw> #link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2052509

 14:28:56 <smartboyhw> It is said that there will be a Ubuntu GNOME remix coming

 14:29:12 <smartboyhw> And trying to get approval to become a official Ubuntu distro

 14:29:12 <phillw> Gubuntu?

 14:29:20 <smartboyhw> phillw: Possibly GNOMEbuntu

 14:29:56 <smartboyhw> So any comments on that?

 14:30:28 <phillw> i don't use gnome, so none from me.

 14:30:35 <smartboyhw> OK.

 14:30:46 <balloons> smartboyhw, it's always exciting to see new ideas come to life.. I wish the flavor the best

 14:31:19 <smartboyhw> OK

 14:32:07 <balloons> anything further?

 14:32:12 <smartboyhw> ..

 14:32:14 <smartboyhw> No

 14:32:18 <balloons> if not this meeting's a wrap :-)

 14:32:21 <smartboyhw> ;-)

 14:32:23 <balloons> #endmeeting

Meeting started by balloons at 14:05:03 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-05-14.05.log.html .

Meeting summary

  • Previous Actions
  • Ubuntu Updates

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-August/035675.html (balloons, 14:11:10)

  • Other topics

LINK: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2053135 (smartboyhw, 14:14:26) LINK: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1999827 (smartboyhw, 14:28:14) LINK: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2052509 (smartboyhw, 14:28:23)

Meeting ended at 14:32:23 UTC.

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  • 14:05:03 <balloons> #startmeeting

    14:05:03 <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Sep 5 14:05:03 2012 UTC. The chair is balloons. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

    14:05:03 <meetingology>

    14:05:03 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired

    14:05:36 <balloons> Let's dive right into the topics for today shall we?

    14:05:45 <smartboyhw> YEAH!

    14:05:49 <phillw> +1

    14:05:52 <smartboyhw> +1

    14:06:27 <balloons> [TOPIC] Previous Actions

    14:06:32 <smartboyhw> Sure wait

    14:06:42 <balloons> none listed.. anything to follow-up on here?

    14:06:51 <smartboyhw> balloons to chase up the incorrect meeting time on qa.ubuntu.com

    14:06:55 <smartboyhw> This one...

    14:07:02 <balloons> smartboyhw, ahh yes 14:07:13 * balloons goes to look

    14:07:23 <smartboyhw> Also phillw balloons to continue to update Wiki progress update please:)

    14:07:45 <smartboyhw> Not yet edited balloons, the time:(

    14:08:01 <phillw> smartboyhw: work continues, the bug section has been tidyed up.

    14:08:06 <smartboyhw> OK

    14:08:12 <smartboyhw> Thanks phillw

    14:08:23 <balloons> smartboyhw, no status update on qa.ubuntu.com sadly

    14:08:30 <smartboyhw> ...

    14:08:40 <balloons> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Updates

    14:08:54 <balloons> Ok, as everyone knows it's beta 1 time

    14:09:50 <balloons> The biggest news for this milestone is the dropping of alternate images for ubuntu

    14:10:06 <smartboyhw> +1

    14:10:48 <balloons> For the sake of the chat, I will supply the link to the discussion

    14:11:10 <balloons> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-August/035675.html

    14:11:18 <balloons> any further discussion on the change?

    14:11:59 <smartboyhw> No!

    14:12:34 <balloons> Alright, the beta testing itself is going well, although we've had some respins during the testing

    14:12:47 <smartboyhw> Yep so many for Ubuntu Studio due to ubiquity

    14:12:48 <balloons> the images were in quite a state of flux before the milestone

    14:13:02 <balloons> so they are still being ironed out

    14:13:49 <balloons> [TOPICS] Other topics

    14:13:59 <balloons> [TOPIC] Other topics 14:14:02 * balloons sighs

    14:14:03 <smartboyhw> \o

    14:14:11 <balloons> go ahead smartboyhw

    14:14:26 <smartboyhw> #link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2053135

    14:14:41 <smartboyhw> balloons have a look at it, not good

    14:15:27 <smartboyhw> Someone is having negative comments on the ISO QA Tracker

    14:15:41 <smartboyhw> So how can we improve it, or should we ignore their feedback?

    14:15:42 <smartboyhw> ,,

    14:15:43 <smartboyhw> .. 14:15:49 * smartboyhw sighs

    14:16:13 <balloons> smartboyhw, I saw the thread

    14:16:17 <smartboyhw> Smile :)

    14:16:38 <balloons> we can take the feedback and try and understand what's causing them issues

    14:17:08 <smartboyhw> OK

    14:18:01 <phillw> \o

    14:18:02 <balloons> communication and responsiveness from the development team is an on-going thing.. We'll continue to try and fill in the gap for both sides

    14:18:16 <balloons> thanks smartboyhw.

    14:18:19 <balloons> phillw, go ahead

    14:18:21 <smartboyhw> Smile :)

    14:18:58 <phillw> I'd like to put on record my thanks to stgraber for the work done on the tracker so bugs are carried over when respins occur.

    14:19:17 <phillw> it has long been a thorn in our side.

    14:19:18 <smartboyhw> +1

    14:19:42 <balloons> sure looks nice doesn't it? Smile :-)

    14:19:43 <phillw> lubuntu has two show-stopper bugs Sad :(

    14:20:03 <phillw> bug http://launchpad.net/bugs/1041625

    14:20:04 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1041625 in xserver-xorg-video-openchrome (Ubuntu) "X not starting after install [openchrome]" [High,Triaged]

    14:20:19 <phillw> bug http://launchpad.net/bugs/1040544

    14:20:21 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1040544 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installer dialog does not come up" [Undecided,New]

    14:20:28 <smartboyhw> Alright

    14:20:45 <phillw> both are out of our hands.

    14:21:09 <smartboyhw> Ubuntu Studio builds got a hell lot of respins for the last few days due to ubiquity being unstable. However the new build works fine

    14:21:19 <balloons> phillw, likely will turn into respins?

    14:21:39 <balloons> at least one is an upstream issue

    14:21:41 <phillw> balloons: a respin is better than no release on those two.

    14:22:44 <balloons> of course.. not sure the openchrome will be solved, but it looks like a fix can be had for it

    14:23:10 <balloons> the other one is a dosey.. lars always manages to find those exotic bugs doesn't he?

    14:23:12 <phillw> as it is killing both of the ppc iso's one of them really does need fixing

    14:23:13 <balloons> +1 for lars

    14:23:35 <smartboyhw> +1

    14:23:55 <phillw> he's a good tester Smile :)

    14:23:58 <balloons> Smile :-)

    14:24:02 <balloons> anything else?

    14:24:21 <smartboyhw> No

    14:24:27 <phillw> oh yes, I forgot.

    14:24:41 <smartboyhw> phillw: ?

    14:24:42 <phillw> lubuntu now has an ARM iso (it arrived overnight)

    14:24:55 <phillw> the arm community are looking after it.

    14:24:58 <smartboyhw> Yep, sadly I don't have ARM

    14:25:02 <balloons> phillw, yes, please share the story

    14:25:18 <smartboyhw> Smile :)

    14:25:41 <phillw> I was asked if lubuntu would object to it. Some ARM machines cannot cope with full ubuntu install, so they wanted a light weight vriant

    14:26:04 <phillw> I was on the release channel and

    14:26:12 <phillw> so it seems lubuntu came to mind,

    14:27:14 <phillw> it was a long term goal for lubuntu to have arm, but we lacked resources - these have now been provided by the arm community.

    14:27:20 <phillw> ..

    14:27:27 <balloons> thanks phillw

    14:27:30 <smartboyhw> \o

    14:27:40 <balloons> I think it's exciting, and glad to see if all coming together so quick

    14:27:49 <balloons> smartboyhw, go ahead

    14:28:01 <smartboyhw> Er, wait while I give the links

    14:28:14 <smartboyhw> #link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1999827

    14:28:23 <smartboyhw> #link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2052509

    14:28:56 <smartboyhw> It is said that there will be a Ubuntu GNOME remix coming

    14:29:12 <smartboyhw> And trying to get approval to become a official Ubuntu distro

    14:29:12 <phillw> Gubuntu?

    14:29:20 <smartboyhw> phillw: Possibly GNOMEbuntu

    14:29:56 <smartboyhw> So any comments on that?

    14:30:28 <phillw> i don't use gnome, so none from me.

    14:30:35 <smartboyhw> OK.

    14:30:46 <balloons> smartboyhw, it's always exciting to see new ideas come to life.. I wish the flavor the best

    14:31:19 <smartboyhw> OK

    14:32:07 <balloons> anything further?

    14:32:12 <smartboyhw> ..

    14:32:14 <smartboyhw> No

    14:32:18 <balloons> if not this meeting's a wrap Smile :-)

    14:32:21 <smartboyhw> Wink ;-)

    14:32:23 <balloons> #endmeeting

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