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   1 === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: QA Team | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 12 Jun 13:00 UTC: Desktop Team | 13 Jun 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu-ni Translation Sprint | 13 Jun 20:00 UTC: MOTU | 17 Jun 15:00 UTC:  Server Team
   2 [18:01]  * stgraber waves
   3 [18:01] <sbeattie> [Hey
   4 [18:02] <pedro_> bdmurray: around?
   5 [18:03] <bdmurray> pedro_: yep
   6 [18:03] <pedro_> great, let's get started then
   7 [18:03] <pedro_> Welcome to the QA Team Meeting
   8 [18:03] <pedro_> heno is not around today, he's at London IIRC
   9 [18:04] <pedro_> Today's agenda : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
  10 [18:04]  * mgunes missed the last meeting due to the time shift
  11 [18:04] <pedro_> we still don't have bot, right?
  12 [18:05] <stgraber> mgunes: that and we were in #ubuntu-testing as #ubuntu-meeting was used for another meeting
  13 [18:05] <stgraber> pedro_: try #startmeeting
  14 [18:05] <pedro_> #startmeeting
  15 [18:05] <MootBot> Meeting started at 12:07. The chair is pedro_.
  16 [18:05] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
  17 [18:05] <pedro_> oh it's working , nice
  18 [18:05] <stgraber> so we have it :)
  19 [18:05] <mgunes> stgraber, I noticed the shift minutes to the previous start time, so I really was out of luck ;)
  20 [18:05] <mgunes> sorry about that
  21 [18:05] <pedro_> [TOPIC] Hardy 8.04.1 SRU Verifications
  22 [18:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  Hardy 8.04.1 SRU Verifications
  23 [18:06] <pedro_> I've been looking to the SRU list http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
  24 [18:06] <pedro_> and we have still a lot of verifications to do
  25 [18:06] <pedro_> some of them are pretty old (more than 30 days)
  26 [18:07] <pedro_> like the grub-installer ; bug 217348
  27 [18:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 217348 in wubi "Incorrect disk order detection generates wrong menu.lst" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217348
  28 [18:07] <bdmurray> Are there 8.04.1 dailies now?
  29 [18:08] <mgunes> bdmurray, yes
  30 [18:08] <stgraber> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/hardy/
  31 [18:08] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/hardy/
  32 [18:08] <slangasek> currently only oversized ones, and alternate-only at the moment
  33 [18:10] <nxvl> mgunes: hiQ!
  34 [18:12] <pedro_> Ok so, the process need to be speed up a bit in order to have those fixes included in 8.04.1
  35 [18:12] <sbeattie> some of the ones sitting with long times are a little more difficult to test I think
  36 [18:12] <ogasawara> does there currently exist a document instructing reporters how then can enable -proposed and test possible fixes?
  37 [18:13] <mgunes> nxvl, hello
  38 [18:13] <stgraber> we have that on the wiki IIRC, give me a second
  39 [18:13] <mgunes> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
  40 [18:13] <stgraber> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed ?
  41 [18:13] <pedro_> yeah i was blogged
  42 [18:13] <ogasawara> perfect
  43 [18:13] <pedro_> s/i/it
  44 [18:13] <stgraber> argh, mgunes was faster :)
  45 [18:14] <sbeattie> pedro_: I've been hacking on laserjock's script that he posted to give an alternate view of outstanding sru's
  46 [18:14] <sbeattie> sample output here: http://www.nxnw.org/~steve/tmp/sru_todo2.html
  47 [18:14] <pedro_> [LINK] http://www.nxnw.org/~steve/tmp/sru_todo2.html
  48 [18:14] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://www.nxnw.org/~steve/tmp/sru_todo2.html
  49 [18:15] <sbeattie> I wanted to be able to see the bug descriptions all in one place, and go through and try to highlight which ones are difficult to test and get attention paid to them
  50 [18:15] <bdmurray> sbeattie: ooh, that rocks!
  51 [18:15] <pedro_> that's pretty cool ;-)
  52 [18:16] <ogasawara> very cool
  53 [18:16] <mgunes> sbeattie, any objections to publicizing this page (for testers on the forums, etc.)?
  54 [18:16] <sbeattie> that list is supposed to be what's in main, but there's some universe packages mingling there
  55 [18:17] <pedro_> sbeattie: [wishlist] could you add a sort method? like one sorting for age (oldest to newest one) :-)
  56 [18:17] <sbeattie> mgunes: hold off a bit, I'd like to get in a location other than my home server.
  57 [18:17] <mgunes> sbeattie, alright
  58 [18:17] <sbeattie> pedro_: ooh, good idea.
  59 [18:18] <pedro_> you can always move it to people.ubuntu.com ;-)
  60 [18:19] <sbeattie> Jordan/laserjock has a location on ubuntuwire that I had hoped he would integrate it into
  61 [18:19] <pedro_> rock on
  62 [18:19] <pedro_> ok let's assign to us some of the SRU's
  63 [18:19] <pedro_> any takers for bug 221501 ?
  64 [18:19] <sbeattie> pedro_: I also want to have it highlight bugs that it can't find testcases for.
  65 [18:19] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 221501 in kickseed "grub-installer failing on Hardy kickseed when "bootloader --md5pass" is set" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221501
  66 [18:21] <sbeattie> pedro_: I'll take it
  67 [18:21] <pedro_> sbeattie: great, thanks you!
  68 [18:21] <pedro_> i can take bug 217348
  69 [18:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 217348 in wubi "Incorrect disk order detection generates wrong menu.lst" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217348
  70 [18:22] <mgunes> I've neglected to start a forum thread (in the development section) in which to post instructions and guide people towards doing some verification (I'm in the process of moving house so really been busy with that)
  71 [18:22] <pedro_> anybody for bug 218549 ?
  72 [18:22] <mgunes> now that I'm this late, I'll perhaps highlight the oldest pending SRUs
  73 [18:22] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 218549 in rescue "Choosing "Reboot" in rescue menu jumps to main menu" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218549
  74 [18:22] <sbeattie> mgunes: oh good, I meant to do that as well, but am happy if you can do that.
  75 [18:23] <mgunes> sbeattie, I'll do it within the next few hours
  76 [18:23] <pedro_> mgunes: indeed you may also want to highlight some of the universe ones, there's a couple older than 40 days there :-(
  77 [18:23] <pedro_> that'd be neat
  78 [18:23] <mgunes> pedro_, will do
  79 [18:23] <sbeattie> mgunes: another idea heno had was to have a "Help ubuntu by playing games" post/blog to test for regressions in the gnome-games update in -proposed
  80 [18:24] <pedro_> mgunes: rock on , thanks
  81 [18:24] <sbeattie> as a way to get people interested in testing pending packages.
  82 [18:25] <mgunes> sbeattie, I wasn't aware of that one; perhaps worth doing a separate post
  83 [18:25] <sbeattie> mgunes: yeah, as a seperate item.
  84 [18:25]  * mgunes takes note
  85 [18:28] <sbeattie> pedro_: I can take bug 218549 asuming it's reproducable on the alternative isos.
  86 [18:28] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 218549 in rescue "Choosing "Reboot" in rescue menu jumps to main menu" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218549
  87 [18:28] <bdmurray> I think that is alternate only actually
  88 [18:29] <bdmurray> Live CDs don't have the rescue menu
  89 [18:30] <sbeattie> okay. then I'll it.
  90 [18:30] <pedro_> sbeattie: ok thanks again
  91 [18:30] <pedro_> well everybody feel free to take any bugs also from that list and verified them
  92 [18:30] <pedro_> universe need help also so if you have a couple of free minutes a good idea is to help them also
  93 [18:31] <pedro_> [TOPIC] Intrepid QA Schedule
  94 [18:31] <MootBot> New Topic:  Intrepid QA Schedule
  95 [18:31] <pedro_> bdmurray: ^
  96 [18:32] <bdmurray> So I've fully updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/IntrepidSchedule and wanted to make sure it looks sane to everyone before e-mailing it out
  97 [18:32] <bdmurray> I also put an explanation as to waht focus areas mean at the bottom of the page
  98 [18:34] <bdmurray> Barring any objections I'll send an e-mail about it this week
  99 [18:35] <pedro_> looks good to me
 100 [18:35] <pedro_> did you introduced another change besides the 8.04.1 ISO Testing task?
 101 [18:35] <davmor2_laptop> +1
 102 [18:36] <bdmurray> The string-fix bit is new and test case review which we talked about
 103 [18:36] <mgunes> +1
 104 [18:36] <bdmurray> ogasawara: is the kernel ready for Alpha 1?
 105 [18:37] <davmor2_laptop> evolution isn't
 106 [18:38] <sbeattie> bdmurray: what's testcase review?
 107 [18:38] <ogasawara> bdmurray: I think the Intrepid kernel is still having some build issues
 108 [18:38] <bdmurray> sbeattie: finalization of ISO test cases
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 110 [18:38] <bdmurray> hmm, I'll add that to the bottom
 111 [18:39] <sbeattie> thanks
 112 [18:39] <bdmurray> thank you for pointing that out
 113 [18:40] <bdmurray> ogasawara: I'll leave the solicit kernel testing for this week on there anywya
 114 [18:41] <bdmurray> Okay, well that's all I had.
 115 [18:42] <pedro_> ok, any other business ?
 116 [18:43] <stgraber> nope
 117 [18:43] <mgunes> I have a late spec that I'm not sure I can get approval for, now that I've missed the spec deadline.. but probably need heno around to discuss that
 118 [18:43] <mgunes> I'll post to the list.
 119 [18:43] <pedro_> mgunes: yep that's best
 120 [18:44] <pedro_> ok
 121 [18:44] <stgraber> mgunes: shouldn't be a problem, I still have to spec two of the QA website things. Just ping heno
 122 [18:44] <pedro_> #endmeeting
 123 [18:44] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 12:46.
 124 [18:44] <pedro_> thanks everybody!
 125 [18:44] <mgunes> stgraber, cool, will do :)
 126 [18:45] <mgunes> thanks, see you all