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(10:00:12 AM) robbiew: Luuuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeet's get ready to ruuumble! (ding ding ding ding)
(10:00:14 AM) kirkland: o/
(10:00:18 AM) robbiew: #startmeeting
(10:00:18 AM) MootBot: Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is robbiew.
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(10:00:19 AM) ogra: moo+
(10:00:19 AM) ***kirkland is covering for ttx
(10:00:25 AM) robbiew: kirkland: ack
(10:00:34 AM) ***fader_ is covering for marjo.
(10:00:50 AM) robbiew: [LINK] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/Agenda
(10:00:50 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/Agenda
(10:01:36 AM) robbiew: So looking at the burn-downs
(10:01:43 AM) robbiew: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/FeatureStatus
(10:01:57 AM) robbiew: the individual TEAM ones for A2 aren't that bad
(10:02:14 AM) robbiew: the ALL alpha 2 gives me nightmares
(10:02:29 AM) robbiew: but I suspect it's because the trend line started before we had all work items scoped out
(10:02:43 AM) robbiew: and it's also grabbing work items from folks not in any of the teams
(10:02:57 AM) robbiew: plus Jono has his A2 chart a little "off"
(10:02:57 AM) robbiew: lol
(10:02:59 AM) ogra: yeah,. definately something wrong with the trend line, pitti can adjust that
(10:03:11 AM) robbiew: yeah...so I'm not too worries
(10:03:14 AM) ***ogra was about to ask him for arm
(10:03:16 AM) robbiew: worried
(10:03:26 AM) robbiew: okay...so let's jump to it
(10:03:29 AM) Riddell: hi
(10:03:30 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] QA
(10:03:31 AM) MootBot: New Topic: QA
(10:03:35 AM) robbiew: Riddell: hi
(10:03:37 AM) ***fader_ waves.
(10:03:40 AM) fader_: http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html
(10:03:40 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html
(10:03:45 AM) fader_: Laptops/Netbooks:
(10:03:45 AM) fader_: Passed: 18 (28%) Failed: 0 ( 0%) Untested: 46 (72%)
(10:03:45 AM) fader_: Servers:
(10:03:45 AM) fader_: Passed: 48 (79%) Failed: 0 ( 0%) Untested: 13 (21%)
(10:03:45 AM) fader_: Desktops:
(10:03:45 AM) fader_: Passed: 8 (73%) Failed: 0 ( 0%) Untested: 3 (27%)
(10:03:51 AM) fader_: The Broadcom NIC issue on servers we had last week has been fixed. A few servers are installing but not returning results, which I am looking into now.
(10:03:54 AM) fader_: The lack of laptop results is due to a proxy issue in the lab. cyphermox is working on this and will get it fixed ASAP.
(10:04:00 AM) fader_: Alpha 2 Status:
(10:04:04 AM) fader_: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-platform-qa-maverick-alpha-2.html
(10:04:05 AM) fader_: qa-maverick-automated-server-testing pushed out to alpha-3 due to higher priority UEC testing work items
(10:04:05 AM) fader_: all other specs are on track for alpha2 or completed
(10:04:05 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-platform-qa-maverick-alpha-2.html
(10:04:23 AM) fader_: That's all I've got today, modulo any questions
(10:04:40 AM) robbiew: you answered mine (about the low laptop results)
(10:04:54 AM) robbiew: questions?
(10:05:03 AM) fader_: Yeah, that's environmental... something has broken in the setup in the lab and cyphermox is pulling his hair out trying to get it fixed
fader_ felipe_ freeflying
(10:05:24 AM) robbiew: thanks fader_
(10:05:33 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] Security
(10:05:33 AM) MootBot: New Topic: Security
(10:05:44 AM) robbiew: jdstrand: around? anything to report
(10:05:48 AM) jdstrand: o/
(10:05:56 AM) robbiew: beyond the usual...kick ass work on CVEs and such :P
(10:05:59 AM) jdstrand: [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
(10:05:59 AM) MootBot: LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
(10:06:01 AM) jdstrand: [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-security.html
(10:06:01 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-security.html
(10:06:09 AM) jdstrand: While we are still working through updates, our team did get to some dev work this week. Highlights include openssl and libvirt merges along with upstreaming of kees' kernel delta for maverick.
(10:06:22 AM) jdstrand: We have no milestoned bugs, and we followed up on our release-targeted bugs and are either waiting on feedback from reporters/upstream or time to fix them.
(10:06:49 AM) jdstrand: that's pretty much it
(10:06:52 AM) ***robbiew is still trying to make use of http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/graphs/
(10:07:06 AM) robbiew: I'm determined to come up with the perfect chart!!!!
(10:07:10 AM) robbiew: lol
(10:07:11 AM) jdstrand: hehe
(10:07:16 AM) robbiew: any questions for Security?
(10:07:34 AM) robbiew: thnks jdstrand
(10:07:38 AM) jdstrand: sure, np
(10:07:41 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] Kernel
(10:07:41 AM) MootBot: New Topic: Kernel
ogasawara ogra
(10:07:45 AM) ogasawara: Overall Kernel Team status is summarised at the first URL below,
(10:07:45 AM) ogasawara: including the item(s) called out in the agenda. Our burndown chart for
(10:07:45 AM) ogasawara: Alpha2 is at the third URL, and our overall burndown chart is at the fourth:
(10:07:45 AM) ogasawara: [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
(10:07:45 AM) ogasawara: [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick#Milestone maverick-alpha-2
(10:07:46 AM) MootBot: LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
(10:07:46 AM) MootBot: LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick#Milestone maverick-alpha-2
(10:07:46 AM) ogasawara: [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team-maverick-alpha-2.html
(10:07:47 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team-maverick-alpha-2.html
(10:07:49 AM) ogasawara: [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team.svg
(10:07:51 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team.svg
(10:07:56 AM) robbiew: ogasawara type SO fast
(10:08:01 AM) ogasawara: heh
(10:08:04 AM) ogasawara: On the items noted in the agenda, the status is as follows:
(10:08:08 AM) ogasawara: * Bug 591707
(10:08:09 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 591707 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "Buttons don't work on presenter screen" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591707
(10:08:16 AM) ogasawara: - Tim is currently assigned to this bug. We're still waiting for
(10:08:16 AM) ogasawara: feedback from the bug reporter as to whether the BIOS upgrade that
(10:08:16 AM) ogasawara: was suggested by Intel made any difference. We'll likely have to
(10:08:16 AM) ogasawara: re-target this to an Alpha3 milestone if we don't hear back soon.
(10:08:27 AM) ogasawara: Uhh, that's not the right bug
(10:08:47 AM) robbiew: whoops...my fault on the agenda
(10:09:06 AM) robbiew: oh wait...that's just weird
(10:09:16 AM) ogasawara: wow, something is weird there
(10:09:19 AM) robbiew: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/591707
(10:09:19 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/591707
(10:09:21 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 591707 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) "After upgrade lucid -> maverick eth0 interface is gone" [High,In progress]
(10:09:32 AM) seb128: yeah, ubottu seems to be buggy for some days
(10:09:38 AM) seb128: it's mixing bugs titles sometime
(10:09:43 AM) robbiew: nice
(10:09:49 AM) ogasawara: ok, I'll move along
(10:09:57 AM) ogasawara: * Bug 564559
(10:10:00 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 564559 in linux (Ubuntu Lucid) "URGENT for upcoming release: Resolutions requiring dual link DVI on radeon result in no display" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/564559
(10:10:10 AM) ogasawara: - It looks like this was for a Lucid SRU and the Maverick nomination
(10:10:10 AM) ogasawara: was added just a few days ago for some reason. I've confirmed that
(10:10:10 AM) ogasawara: the Maverick kernel already contains the necessary patch, see comment
(10:10:10 AM) ogasawara: #24, and so have closed the Maverick task as Fix Released.
(10:10:22 AM) robbiew: ack
(10:10:26 AM) ogasawara: * Bug 591941
(10:10:37 AM) ubottu: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/591941)
(10:10:41 AM) ogasawara: nice
(10:10:43 AM) ogasawara: - Mathieu is assigned to this bug. He's currently working with the TI
(10:10:43 AM) ogasawara: developers and they've narrowed it down to a DMA related issue, see
(10:10:43 AM) ogasawara: comment #1. It's unknown if a fix will land in time for Alpha2 so
(10:10:43 AM) ogasawara: we've bumped the milestone out to Alpha3 as it does not appear to be
(10:10:43 AM) ogasawara: an Alpha2 release blocker.
(10:11:02 AM) robbiew: http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/591941
(10:11:03 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/591941
(10:11:05 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 591941 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) "SDHC card not recognized" [High,In progress]
(10:11:10 AM) ogasawara: As a general status, we have rebased with the upstream 2.6.35-rc3
(10:11:10 AM) ogasawara: kernel. This is available for testing in the latest linux 2.6.35-4.5
(10:11:10 AM) ogasawara: maverick upload. We are also below the burdown chart overall but above
(10:11:10 AM) ogasawara: our Alpha2 burdown chart with 46% work items complete.
(10:11:25 AM) ogasawara: Questions?
(10:11:33 AM) robbiew: \o/
(10:11:59 AM) robbiew: thanks ogasawara
(10:12:06 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] Foundations
(10:12:07 AM) MootBot: New Topic: Foundations
(10:12:29 AM) cjwatson: Colourised work item status: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
(10:12:32 AM) cjwatson: We're more or less on the trend line for alpha-2, but rather more by postponement than implementation, so alpha-3 is going to be fairly full. We're noticeably above our overall trend line.
(10:12:36 AM) cjwatson: The three GSoC usb-creator blueprints have been pushed out to alpha-3.
(10:12:39 AM) cjwatson: foundations-m-686-compile still needs investigation of the libc regression on Geodes (at least originally due to NOPL instructions being emitted incorrectly), and of course needs a write-up (I've been bugging doko about this). The core change is done though.
(10:13:14 AM) cjwatson: barry is well underway with foundations-m-robust-python-packaging, now that we've AIUI agreed to support 2.6 and 2.7 but to keep 2.6 as the default. Several work items have been pushed to alpha-3.
(10:13:27 AM) cjwatson: (2.6 as the default - "probably", anyway)
(10:13:44 AM) barry: yep
(10:13:56 AM) cjwatson: foundations-m-uefi-support is almost all done, with the exception of a few work items that really depend on foundations-m-cd-boot (it's all intertwined) and so have been pushed out to alpha-3.
(10:14:16 AM) cjwatson: That's just in time for Manoj Iyer to show it off at the UEFI Plugfest next week :-)
(10:15:14 AM) cjwatson: also, while it's not on the agenda, foundations-m-btrfs-support is now done to the point of being able to do a manual install with btrfs / and ext[234] /boot (with tomorrow's CD images). There are a lot of optional work items in that spec, and Surbhi Palande is still working on making btrfs / with no separate /boot possible.
(10:15:25 AM) robbiew: cool
(10:15:27 AM) cjwatson: I think that's all
(10:15:38 AM) ***robbiew will try it out on his Dell Mini 9 test box
(10:16:14 AM) robbiew: questions for Foundations?
cjohnston cjwatson
(10:16:43 AM) robbiew: thanks cjwatson
(10:16:47 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] Server
(10:16:47 AM) MootBot: New Topic: Server
(10:16:53 AM) ***kirkland is covering for ttx
(10:17:01 AM) kirkland: Our updated release status is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus
(10:17:12 AM) kirkland: 6 Alpha2-milestoned bugs there
(10:17:22 AM) kirkland: mostly UEC-related
(10:17:41 AM) kirkland: Alpha2 Specs at http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-server-maverick-alpha-2.html
(10:18:02 AM) kirkland: Critical/High Specs at < 70% completion
(10:18:30 AM) kirkland: server-maverick-uec-testing 20% Blocked by rig availability, not affected by freeze though
(10:18:42 AM) kirkland: server-maverick-cloud-init 33% Spec is late, might have to drop less-important features
(10:19:01 AM) kirkland: server-maverick-uec-eucalyptus-next 40% Representing Alpha2-milestoned bugs to solve (should move along a bit better now)
(10:19:11 AM) kirkland: server-maverick-hypervisor 53% Mostly triage tasks left, not affected by freeze
(10:19:21 AM) kirkland: and 3 more at 67%
(10:19:40 AM) kirkland: Medium/Low Specs < 50% completion include:
(10:19:51 AM) kirkland: server-maverick-cloud-utils 0% Was transfered to new assignee, should still be completed on time
(10:20:04 AM) kirkland: server-maverick-uec-provisioning 15% Mostly docs tasks, can be completed during freeze
(10:20:14 AM) kirkland: server-maverick-cloud-kernel-upgrades 29% Mostly a few investigation tasks, can be completed during freeze
(10:20:24 AM) kirkland: server-maverick-new-stacks 33% Items left about sponsoring new packages to universe
(10:20:38 AM) kirkland: there is one bug that we need kernel help on
(10:20:44 AM) kirkland: Bug 588861 is certainly a kernel issue. We hope to be able to bisect the version that regressed and have a reproducer script.
(10:20:45 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 588861 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) "SDHC card not recognized" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588861
(10:20:59 AM) kirkland: (description is not correct, ubottu)
(10:21:05 AM) ogasawara: kirkland: keep me posted on the bisect outcome
(10:21:15 AM) kirkland: ccheney is working on it today, ogasawara
(10:21:19 AM) ogasawara: thanks
(10:21:21 AM) kirkland: "pad block corrupted" error when trying to register an image with 2.6.34 kernel
(10:21:29 AM) kirkland: ^ is the correct description
(10:21:34 AM) kirkland: robbiew: questions?
(10:22:44 AM) robbiew: nope...everything I had a question about got bumped to a3 :)
(10:22:52 AM) kirkland: robbiew: thx
(10:23:11 AM) robbiew: kirkland: no...thank you ;)
(10:23:12 AM) robbiew: heh
(10:23:22 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] Desktop
(10:23:23 AM) MootBot: New Topic: Desktop
(10:23:25 AM) seb128: hi
(10:23:33 AM) seb128: [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team.html
(10:23:33 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team.html
(10:23:36 AM) seb128: [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team-maverick-alpha-2.html
(10:23:37 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team-maverick-alpha-2.html
(10:23:39 AM) seb128: [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
(10:23:40 AM) MootBot: LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
(10:23:44 AM) seb128:
(10:23:44 AM) seb128: * on track for alpha2: UNE using unity now, dx indicator-appmenu working now and will be added to UNE rsn, we got firefox security updates mostly sorted, new software-center version uploaded to maverick yesterday
(10:23:48 AM) seb128:
(10:23:50 AM) seb128: Items listed on the agenda:
(10:24:05 AM) seb128: * desktop-maverick-easy-wayland-testing: no items done yet on that spec but it's ppa work and not required for alpha2, can we moved to alpha3 if required
(10:24:10 AM) seb128: * desktop-maverick-video-bugs-in-the-kms-world and desktop-maverick-xorg-in-mm: still some items but on track for alpha2
(10:24:13 AM) seb128: * bug 578281 has not been started yet, chrisccoulson has been busy full time on firefox security updates since UDS but the bug should be on track for the point release
(10:24:15 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 578281 in ubufox (Ubuntu Maverick) "Add search plugin for Baidu" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/578281
(10:24:19 AM) seb128:
(10:24:28 AM) seb128: GNOME 2.30.2 coming next week
(10:24:42 AM) seb128: we will upload some of the bug fix updates to lucid
(10:25:05 AM) seb128:
(10:25:15 AM) seb128: that's it from
(10:25:20 AM) seb128: that's it from me (ups)
(10:25:25 AM) seb128: kenvandine, dx updates maybe?
(10:25:27 AM) ccheney: ogasawara, yea working on it :)
(10:25:40 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] DX
(10:25:41 AM) MootBot: New Topic: DX
(10:26:01 AM) seb128: well there was Riddell for kubuntu as well still
(10:26:03 AM) davidbarth: hi all
(10:26:04 AM) seb128: but we do dx
(10:26:10 AM) seb128: davidbarth, hey ;-)
(10:26:14 AM) robbiew: ah...sorry
(10:26:20 AM) robbiew: Riddel: will get you after DX ;)
(10:26:25 AM) Riddell: thanks robbiew
(10:26:33 AM) davidbarth: so the weekly report is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus
davidbarth DavidLevin davidm Daviey davmor2
(10:26:54 AM) davidbarth: * [[https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/dx-m-app-menubar|dx-m-app-menubar]]
(10:26:55 AM) davidbarth: * new release with transient menus support and a nasty lock issue fixed; more apps supported: please keep on testing the new versions
(10:26:57 AM) davidbarth: * see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationMenu for how you can help
(10:26:58 AM) davidbarth: * tight, but on track for A2
(10:27:03 AM) davidbarth: * [[https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/dx-m-gtk-enhancements|dx-m-gtk-enhancements]]
(10:27:05 AM) davidbarth: * csd not in scope for maverick anymore (more on that later); basically we're reconsidering the integration issues with the rest of the community
(10:27:06 AM) davidbarth: * argb has been taken out as well; we plan to re-introduce it after a2, once more bug fixes can be confirmed; still in scope for Maverick
(10:27:08 AM) davidbarth: * will update the BP work-items to reflect that
(10:27:12 AM) davidbarth: * [[https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/dx-m-sound-menu-v2|dx-m-sound-menu-v2]]
(10:27:14 AM) davidbarth: * new release with registration + a new set of controls in the menu
(10:27:15 AM) davidbarth: * RB & Amarok enabled to support the new menu features
(10:27:17 AM) davidbarth: * on track for A2
(10:27:21 AM) davidbarth: * [[https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/dx-m-indicator-me|dx-m-indicator-me]]
(10:27:22 AM) davidbarth: * will be re-targeted for A3
(10:27:37 AM) davidbarth: that was for the "desktop" part of DX
(10:27:46 AM) davidbarth: UNE was also covered by seb128
(10:28:13 AM) davidbarth: unity is well on track for a2
(10:28:26 AM) davidbarth: a nice new release this week; test the new menubar, it's cool
(10:28:28 AM) davidbarth: ;)
(10:28:38 AM) davidbarth: less cool:
(10:28:40 AM) davidbarth: * [[https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/dx-m-indicator-network|dx-m-indicator-network]]
(10:28:42 AM) davidbarth: * Minor changes released this week
(10:28:43 AM) davidbarth: * Still more backend bugfixes
(10:28:45 AM) davidbarth: * *Not* on track for A2 for the UI part - we'll continue releasing engineering prototype interfaces to exercise the backend
(10:29:20 AM) davidbarth: robbiew: and i've updated my blueprints targets only this morning (apologies again) to be assigned to the a2 and up (instead of a1)
(10:29:23 AM) robbiew: so all 4 A2 blueprints you just mentioned have A3 work items...so how can they be targeted to A2?
(10:30:01 AM) davidbarth: uh?
(10:30:05 AM) robbiew: I went through them and retargeted them to a3
(10:30:07 AM) robbiew: so for example
(10:30:12 AM) robbiew: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/dx-m-app-menubar
(10:30:20 AM) robbiew: Work items for maverick-alpha-2:
(10:30:20 AM) robbiew: fix totem argb bug: DONE
(10:30:20 AM) robbiew: land argb patch back into gtk: DONE
(10:30:20 AM) robbiew: land csd patch back into gtk: DONE
(10:30:20 AM) robbiew: add blacklist support: INPROGRESS
(10:30:20 AM) robbiew: write test plan for csd-argb: TODO
(10:30:20 AM) robbiew: Land compiz patches to deal with frozen windows: TODO
(10:30:20 AM) robbiew: Develop mutter patches: TODO
(10:30:20 AM) robbiew: Develop metacity patches: TODO
(10:30:20 AM) robbiew: Review apps to blacklist: TODO
(10:30:20 AM) robbiew: [bratsche] The triangle in the messaging menu: TODO
(10:30:20 AM) robbiew: [bratsche] Including the window buttons for csd directly in the theme engine: TODO
(10:30:20 AM) robbiew: Work items for maverick-alpha-3:
(10:30:20 AM) robbiew: [bratsche] Changing GTK to allow for a rounded stepper: TODO
(10:30:20 AM) robbiew: [bratsche] Changing the order in which GTK draws pieces to allow for a rounded: TODO
(10:30:37 AM) davidbarth: right, this started for a1; it should read a2, not a3
(10:30:45 AM) robbiew: if there are work items for maverick-alpha-3
(10:30:56 AM) robbiew: it can't be targeted to alpha 2
(10:31:15 AM) davidbarth: generally we can have wi planned from a1 to a3
(10:31:30 AM) davidbarth: we're splitting the load between iterations
(10:31:43 AM) robbiew: right
(10:31:45 AM) robbiew: that's fine
(10:32:01 AM) robbiew: but the Milestone Target is for when ALL work items will be complete
(10:32:04 AM) seb128: davidbarth, I think the suggestion is that those should be targetted for later not a2 if they will still require work
(10:32:06 AM) davidbarth: but so the 4 here should be back on a2, shouldn't they?
(10:32:13 AM) davidbarth: ahhh
(10:32:21 AM) seb128: davidbarth, ie you can have a2 work items to land things in the ditro
(10:32:23 AM) seb128: distro
(10:32:28 AM) davidbarth: but will you still list them in your meeting agenda?
(10:32:29 AM) seb128: but the specs should be ie for maverick beta
(10:32:30 AM) davidbarth: robbiew: ^^
(10:32:37 AM) davidbarth: because that was the issue initially, wasn't it?
(10:32:50 AM) ogra: items that are for past milestones wont be listed
(10:32:57 AM) davidbarth: anyway, we can see that offline; happy to re-target to whatever makes sense for tracking
(10:32:58 AM) ogra: only the ones ahead
davidbarth DavidLevin davidm
(10:33:10 AM) robbiew: davidbarth: no worries...I've fixed ;)
(10:33:17 AM) davidbarth: robbiew: thanks ;)
(10:33:22 AM) seb128: well, the issue is that davidbarth wants to get progresses tracked for those and regular updates I guess
(10:33:32 AM) davidbarth: other questions?
(10:33:42 AM) seb128: and if specs are not targetted for a2 they will not be covered in the agenda
(10:33:57 AM) robbiew: seb128: right...but he can certainly report on them if he wants
(10:34:04 AM) seb128: agreed
(10:34:15 AM) robbiew: anyway...moving on :)
davidbarth DavidLevin davidm
(10:34:19 AM) robbiew: thanks davidbarth
(10:34:20 AM) davidbarth: that's fine, i'll put them on the report nonetheless; this is what we're focused on, so i can't put them under the rug
(10:34:30 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] Desktop...again
(10:34:30 AM) MootBot: New Topic: Desktop...again
(10:34:32 AM) seb128: davidbarth, seems good to me ;-)
(10:34:33 AM) robbiew: Riddell: ?
(10:34:40 AM) Riddell: * Compiles on ARM progressing but still some sticking areas (kdebindings, kdebase-workspace)
(10:34:44 AM) Riddell: * pulseaudio in Kubuntu by default
(10:34:46 AM) Riddell: * knetworkmanager replaced by plasma-widget-networkmanagement
(10:34:48 AM) Riddell: * waiting on MIRs for rekonq, koffice, kdeedu, kdenetwork
(10:34:51 AM) Riddell: * ubuntu one summer of code project making good progress, files all syncing
(10:34:54 AM) Riddell: * {k,}packagekit updated to 0.6
(10:34:57 AM) Riddell: * https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo
(10:35:22 AM) robbiew: [LINK] http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo
(10:35:23 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo
(10:35:34 AM) seb128: we have a mir review team issue
(10:35:47 AM) seb128: rickspencer3 took an action on that dunno if he did anything about it yet though
(10:35:59 AM) Riddell: it needs more members for sure
(10:36:11 AM) asac: seb128: thought we solved the current blockage
(10:36:12 AM) ogra: or more bribes
(10:36:14 AM) seb128: ie, all the mir team members have no time for mir reviews now and things are blocking on review
(10:36:22 AM) robbiew: :/
(10:36:24 AM) seb128: asac, we solved the unity one, Kubuntu has issues as well
(10:36:50 AM) ***robbiew will talk to rickspencer3
(10:36:50 AM) asac: same rules apply there
(10:36:52 AM) ***ogra has jasper-initramfs pending for MIR
(10:37:03 AM) Riddell: asac: so i should just promote them now?
(10:37:06 AM) robbiew: [ACTION] robbiew to talk to rickspencer3 about mir team issue
(10:37:07 AM) MootBot: ACTION received: robbiew to talk to rickspencer3 about mir team issue
(10:37:09 AM) asac: Riddell: promote + file beta bugs
(10:37:17 AM) Riddell: ok
(10:37:25 AM) asac: Riddell: you know the important parts (like libs need ABI tracking etc.)
(10:37:59 AM) robbiew: anything else before we move on to ARM?
(10:38:07 AM) Riddell: actually that could do with being clarified in the MIR requirements (but that's outside the scope of this meeting)
(10:38:31 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] ARM
(10:38:31 AM) MootBot: New Topic: ARM
(10:38:34 AM) robbiew: ogra:?
(10:38:37 AM) ***ogra waves
(10:38:39 AM) ogra: Detailed status at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
(10:38:39 AM) ogra: ...
(10:38:39 AM) ogra: Short summary:
(10:38:39 AM) ogra: * We're blocked by the non booting or non existing omap 3 and 4 kernels atm
(10:38:39 AM) ogra: * jasper (partition resizer) showed some smaller issues with resizing partitions on the fly that need fixing before images can work.
(10:38:41 AM) ogra: * FTBFS focus is on gobject-introspection since that breaks the netbook deps
(10:38:43 AM) ogra: ...
(10:38:45 AM) ogra: A2 status:
(10:38:47 AM) ogra: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile-maverick-alpha-2.html
(10:38:47 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile-maverick-alpha-2.html
(10:38:49 AM) ogra: (a bit behind here but should be fine by monday, debian-cd merge will happen today, jasper MIR pending)
(10:38:54 AM) ogra: ...
(10:38:56 AM) ogra: A2 targeted specs:
(10:38:58 AM) ogra: still only https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/preinstalled-sd-card-images-for-omap
(10:39:00 AM) ogra: ...
(10:39:02 AM) ogra: Blocking bugs:
(10:39:04 AM) ogra: bug 595947
(10:39:05 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 595947 in jasper-initramfs (Ubuntu) "MIR for jasper-initramfs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595947
(10:39:06 AM) ogra: bug 589624
(10:39:08 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 589624 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Maverick] omap flavour does not work on beagle XM board" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/589624
(10:39:08 AM) ogra: bug 594382
(10:39:09 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 594382 in linux-ti-omap (Ubuntu Maverick) "Wake up daisy chain activation failed on omap3" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/594382
(10:39:10 AM) ogra: bug 595949
(10:39:12 AM) ogra: ...
(10:39:12 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 595949 in linux-meta-ti-omap (Ubuntu Maverick) "linux-meta-ti-omap depends on the wrong binary kernel in maverick" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595949
(10:39:21 AM) ***ogra sends congratulations to the US btw :)
(10:39:30 AM) ogra: General:
(10:39:30 AM) ogra: Team renaming minly done (modulo some cleanup)
(10:39:45 AM) ogra: questions ?
(10:39:46 AM) robbiew: \o/
(10:40:10 AM) robbiew: thanks ogra
(10:40:15 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] MOTU
(10:40:16 AM) MootBot: New Topic: MOTU
(10:40:20 AM) robbiew: nothing on the agenda
(10:40:29 AM) robbiew: but always want to be sure ;)
(10:40:56 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] Downstreams
(10:40:57 AM) MootBot: New Topic: Downstreams
(10:41:04 AM) robbiew: Linaro has one feature
(10:41:12 AM) robbiew: I think asac is covering for them
(10:41:17 AM) asac: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LinaroTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
(10:41:57 AM) asac: yeah. we only have one spec for alpha-2
(10:42:07 AM) asac: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/arm-m-tool-chain-selection
(10:42:08 AM) robbiew: and looks like it's waiting on doko
(10:42:16 AM) asac: which is covered by doko afaiu
(10:42:23 AM) asac: we have no real blockers atm, besides ourselves
(10:42:28 AM) robbiew: heh
(10:42:33 AM) robbiew: okay cool
(10:43:06 AM) robbiew: if folks have questions, jump into #linaro ;)
(10:43:27 AM) asac: one question: we have the infrastructure team that does most of their work outside the archive
(10:43:34 AM) asac: do you want those to be tracked here too?
(10:44:28 AM) robbiew: hmm
(10:44:37 AM) robbiew: nah
(10:44:50 AM) asac: good. makes sense imo
(10:44:57 AM) robbiew: :)
(10:45:03 AM) robbiew: thnx asac
(10:45:10 AM) asac: thanks
(10:45:13 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] Maverick regressions
(10:45:13 AM) MootBot: New Topic: Maverick regressions
(10:45:25 AM) robbiew: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+bugs?field.tag=regression-potential
(10:45:58 AM) robbiew: nothing critical
(10:46:09 AM) robbiew: though the bluetooth one needs some lovin ;)
(10:46:21 AM) robbiew: bug 594214
(10:46:23 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 594214 in gnome-bluetooth (Ubuntu Maverick) ""Preferences" and "Setup new device..." options are broken in bluetooth-applet " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/594214
(10:46:34 AM) robbiew: and I'm not saying that just because I opened it ;)
(10:46:39 AM) asac: haha
(10:46:40 AM) seb128: robbiew, I will check on this one
(10:46:51 AM) robbiew: seb128: thanks!
(10:47:12 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] 10.04.1 LTS
(10:47:13 AM) MootBot: New Topic: 10.04.1 LTS
(10:47:30 AM) robbiew: there's one blueprint..which is pretty straightforward
(10:47:34 AM) robbiew: no need to discuss
(10:47:44 AM) ScottK: Fix for Bug #586497 was just uploaded and is waiting for ubuntu-sru to accept.
(10:47:45 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 586497 in kpackagekit (Ubuntu Maverick) "kpackagekit install security update in automatic mode without authorization" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586497
(10:48:02 AM) robbiew: cool
(10:48:45 AM) robbiew: I think I missed bug 525807
(10:48:48 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 525807 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "[upstream] [3.2.1] OOo Slide Show and Fullscreen modes - not full screen under compiz" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/525807
seb128 Seveas
(10:49:27 AM) robbiew: good move seb128 ;)
(10:49:46 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] AOB
(10:49:46 AM) MootBot: New Topic: AOB
(10:49:49 AM) robbiew: any other business?
(10:50:16 AM) robbiew: thanks all
(10:50:18 AM) robbiew: #endmeeting
(10:50:19 AM) MootBot: Meeting finished at 10:50.
(10:50:23 AM) ogra: thanks
(10:50:25 AM) robbiew: go USA!!!!!!
(10:50:25 AM) robbiew: lol
(10:50:28 AM) ogra: ++

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