12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) Weekly Meeting

Upcoming Dates

2012/02/02 - Alpha 2
2012/02/16 - Feature Freeze
2012/02/16 - 10.04.4

Release Overview

Work Items for 12.04:
- There are now 2876 work items (2012/01/20) (2084 on 2011/11/25).
- please review your blueprints for those work items its clear won't happen this release, and set them to POSTPONED.
Precise Schedule:
- Documentation String Freeze, moved earlier (now week 23) per request from translation team
- see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
- google calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/ubuntu-release-calendar/
Bugs being tracked:
- Committed for fixing: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html
- Reminder: if you want a team to find and consider a bug quickly, please assign or subscribe the bug to that team.
- Of interest to release: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-mgr-p-tracking-bugs.html

Meeting Logistics

No meetings, day after milestone release. (ie. no meeting on 02/03)
- Team summaries should still be mailed to ubuntu-release on Thurs or Friday
- If urgent items, ad hoc meeting will be called on Monday.

Hardware Certification team update - mlegris

see: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000753.html

QA team update - jibel

see: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000767.html
Work items: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-platform-qa.html
Daily testing status can be found:
- fresh ISO install: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise%20Daily%20ISOs/
- upgrades: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise/job/precise-upgrade/

Security team update - mdeslaur

Kernel team update - ogasawara

Foundations team update - cjwatson

Server team update - arosales

see: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000774.html
Work items:
- Infrastructure: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-servercloud-infrastructure-deployment.html
- LTS hardening: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-servercloud-lts-hardening.html
- Juju charms and service orchestration: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-servercloud-service-orchestration.html
- cloud workload: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-servercloud-workloads.html
Bugs: http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html

ARM team update - ogra

see: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000777.html
Work items: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ubuntu-arm.html
Armhf - FTBFS - http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/primary-precise-armhf.html

Linaro update - fabo

Ubuntu One Team - joshuahoover

see: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000756.html

Desktop Team update - pitti

Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth

see: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000770.html
Work items: (in progress, assessing bug workload)

Desktop Systems Engineering Update - olli

Kubuntu Team update - Riddell

Edubuntu Team update - stgraber or highvoltage

Xubuntu Team update - madnick

Ubuntu Studio update - scott-work

Lubuntu Team update - gilir

Mythbuntu Team update - superm1

see: TBD

MOTU Team Q&A - tumbleweed or Laney

10.04.4

Q&A by the teams on the above status

Minutes

Meeting summary

Release general overview - slangasek

LINK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2012-01-27 (slangasek, 16:06:37) LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/thread.html (slangasek, 16:06:57) LINK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule release schedule (slangasek, 16:07:08) LINK: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/ubuntu-release-calendar/ release schedule (slangasek, 16:07:41) LINK: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html bugs the engineering teams have committed to fix (slangasek, 16:08:03) ACTION: slangasek to follow up on rls-p-tracking report breakage (slangasek, 16:11:26) LINK: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ work item tracker (slangasek, 16:13:48)

Alpha-2

LINK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=44326&field.tag=rls-mgr-p-tracking bugs engineering teams have committed to fixing for alpha-2 (slangasek, 16:15:36) LINK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=44326&field.tag=rls-mgr-p-tracking bugs that have been flagged by release management for fixing in alpha-2 (slangasek, 16:16:06) LINK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=44326&field.tag=rls-p-tracking bugs engineering teams have committed to fixing that are milestoned to alpha-2 (slangasek, 16:16:44)

Hardware Certification team update - mlegris or brendand

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000753.html (mlegris, 16:22:18)

QA team update - jibel

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000767.html (jibel, 16:24:07)

Security team Q&A - mdeslaur

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000754.html (mdeslaur, 16:28:21)

Kernel team Q&A - ogasawara

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000755.html (ogasawara, 16:29:35)

Foundations team Q&A - cjwatson

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000768.html - sorry for late posting this week (cjwatson, 16:30:42) LINK: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-foundations.html (cjwatson, 16:30:45)

Server team Q&A - arosales

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000774.html (arosales, 16:34:24)

ARM team Q&A- ogra_

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000777.html (ogra_, 16:36:46)

Linaro team Q&A - fabo

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000776.html (fabo, 16:44:18)

Ubuntu One Team Q&A - joshuahoover
Desktop Team Q&A - pitti

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000761.html (pitti, 16:46:26)

Unity Framework Team Q&A - dbarth
Unity Services and Settings Team Q&A - olli
Kubuntu Team Q&A - Riddell

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000762.html (Riddell, 16:56:54)

Edubuntu Team Q&A - stgraber or highvoltage

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000758.html (stgraber, 17:00:56)

Xubuntu Team Q&A - madnick or charlie-tca

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000763.html (madnick, 17:02:57)

Ubuntu Studio Team Q&A - scott-work

LINK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/922424 (scott-work, 17:04:55)

Lubuntu Team Q&A - gilir

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000769.html (gilir, 17:07:33)

MOTU Team Q&A - tumbleweed or Laney
Any other business, comments, questions?

Meeting ended at 17:12:40 UTC.

Votes

Action items

slangasek to follow up on rls-p-tracking report breakage

Action items, by person

slangasek
* slangasek to follow up on rls-p-tracking report breakage

People present (lines said)

slangasek (125)
ogra_ (27)
cjwatson (23)
pitti (22)
dbarth (14)
fabo (11)
ubottu (9)
Riddell (9)
ogasawara (8)
Laney (8)
scott-work (8)
arosales (8)
stgraber (6)
mdeslaur (6)
jibel (5)
madnick (4)
meetingology` (4)
tyhicks (4)
ScottK (4)
olli (3)
mlegris (3)
gilir (3)
highvoltage (1)

Full Log

16:05:56 <slangasek> #startmeeting
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16:06:25 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Release general overview - slangasek
16:06:29 <slangasek> Agenda can be found:
16:06:37 <slangasek> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2012-01-27
16:06:50 <slangasek> Individual team status links were/will be added to it from:
16:06:57 <slangasek> #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/thread.html
16:07:08 <slangasek> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule release schedule 16:07:34 * slangasek wonders if the bot is paying attention
16:07:41 <slangasek> #link http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/ubuntu-release-calendar/ release schedule
16:08:03 <slangasek> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html bugs the engineering teams have committed to fix
16:08:28 <slangasek> if you have other bugs you'd like the engineering teams to consider for fixing, they should be assigned to specific teams so they can be found.
16:08:38 <slangasek> Upcoming dates:
16:08:42 <slangasek> • 2012/02/02 - Alpha 2
16:08:46 <slangasek> • 2012/02/16 - Feature Freeze
16:08:50 <slangasek> • 2012/02/16 - 10.04.4
16:09:26 <cjwatson> rls-p-tracking-bugs is, as usual for reports.qa pages, hopelessly wrong
16:09:41 <cjwatson> there are more than four bugs tagged rls-p-tracking
16:10:07 <slangasek> oh gar
16:10:08 <Riddell> who's incharge of alpha 2?
16:10:14 <slangasek> Riddell: o/
16:10:27 <Riddell> good luck
16:10:50 <slangasek> hmm, thanks
16:11:26 <slangasek> [ACTION] slangasek to follow up on rls-p-tracking report breakage 16:11:26 * meetingology` slangasek to follow up on rls-p-tracking report breakage
16:11:51 <ogasawara> slangasek: just fyi, I've pinged bjf about it
16:13:13 <slangasek> ***WORKITEMS:*** we are still above the overall trendline unfortunately; we really need to get workitems postponed that aren't going to happen so that other teams know what to expect. So please work with your teams to mark as postponed work that isn't going to happen
16:13:48 <slangasek> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ work item tracker
16:14:12 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Alpha-2
16:14:59 <slangasek> Alpha 2 is due next Thursday. I'm planning for the soft freeze to go into effect Tuesday morning UTC for milestone preparation, so please plan your uploads accordingly
16:15:36 <slangasek> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=44326&field.tag=rls-mgr-p-tracking bugs engineering teams have committed to fixing for alpha-2
16:15:47 <slangasek> er no, sorry
16:16:06 <slangasek> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=44326&field.tag=rls-mgr-p-tracking bugs that have been flagged by release management for fixing in alpha-2
16:16:44 <slangasek> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=44326&field.tag=rls-p-tracking bugs engineering teams have committed to fixing that are milestoned to alpha-2
16:17:15 <slangasek> does the latter set bear discussing in this meeting?
16:17:36 <slangasek> if you're not expecting a fix uploaded by EOD Monday, they probably need the milestone moved
16:18:06 <slangasek> bug #830949, bug #344878, bug #800826, bug #850264, bug #872446, bug #905754, bug #790240
16:18:11 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 830949 in compiz (Ubuntu) "[Intel N10 Graphics] Need Compiz' "Copy to Texture" plugin so can display on multi-head layouts bigger than the max GL texture size" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/830949
16:18:12 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 344878 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "file name too long when creating new file (ecryptfs_lookup: lookup_one_len() returned [-36] on lower_dentry)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/344878
16:18:13 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 800826 in apparmor (Ubuntu Precise) "aa-notify doesn't display certain apparmor events" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/800826
16:18:15 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 850264 in apt (Ubuntu Precise) "given a foreign architecture of i386 on amd64 machine, and an outdated libc, apt tries to remove libc-bin" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850264
16:18:15 <slangasek> (seven bugs, one with two tasks)
16:18:16 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 872446 in apparmor (Ubuntu Precise) "aa-logprof should detect denials as well as complaints" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872446
16:19:21 <slangasek> Any comments on those bugs?
16:19:50 <mdeslaur> I'll move the milestones on the security team ones, they won't be ready for alpha 2
16:19:56 <slangasek> mdeslaur: ack, thanks
16:20:08 <tyhicks> mdeslaur, slangasek: 344878 has a fix in the current precise kernel
16:20:26 <slangasek> and I'll send out a milestone freeze pre-announcement mail today to ubuntu-devel to make sure everyone's on the same page
16:20:29 <tyhicks> I still have to do some touchups on it, but what's currently there is "good enough"
16:20:48 <slangasek> tyhicks: sounds like the bug tasks should either be marked as 'fix released' or have the milestone moved to track the further work
16:21:09 <tyhicks> slangasek: ack - marking it fixed release and I'll leave it inprogress on the upstream task
16:21:09 <slangasek> any other comments/questions on alpha-2?
16:21:11 <mdeslaur> tyhicks: I'll mark it as fix released thanks.
16:21:54 <tyhicks> mdeslaur: I'll fix that, too
16:21:57 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Hardware Certification team update - mlegris or brendand
16:22:12 <pitti> slangasek: I asked mvo about apt, and will move the compiz one (release got delayed)
16:22:18 <mlegris> [link] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000753.html
16:22:28 <slangasek> pitti: the apt one is pretty critical from our side and I'm working with him to get something in fwiw
16:22:38 <mlegris> usual weekly testing, next week we'll be starting on A2
16:22:42 <pitti> slangasek: yes, I fully agree
16:22:42 <slangasek> (where by "working with" I mean "testing and repeatedly reporting regressions" :P)
16:22:50 <mlegris> ..
16:23:11 <slangasek> mlegris: thanks
16:23:14 <slangasek> questions for mlegris?
16:23:37 <slangasek> [TOPIC] QA team update - jibel
16:24:07 <jibel> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000767.html
16:24:57 <jibel> as pitti mentioned bug 922478 is fixed but alternate is still failing with bug 922646
16:24:59 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 922478 in fonts-tlwg (Ubuntu) "ubuntu alternate 20120127 failed to install: ttf-thai-tlwg : Depends: fonts-thai-tlwg but it is not installable" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922478
16:25:00 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 922646 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "precise alternate LVM failed to install: no root file system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922646
16:25:02 <cjwatson> wut
16:25:10 <cjwatson> I rebuilt it to fix that and tested that report.html was empty now
16:25:12 <cjwatson> are you *sure*
16:25:24 <cjwatson> oh sorry, misread, you mean a different bug now
16:25:32 <pitti> jibel: well, I fixed the most probable cause of it, I haven't actually re-tested; but I wouldn't see what's wrong now
16:25:40 <pitti> ah, likewise, sorry
16:26:24 <jibel> this is the only issue, no problem with server, and we'll review desktop images
16:26:25 <jibel> ..
16:26:35 <slangasek> cjwatson, jibel: should 922646 be targeted to alpha-2? or should this be release-noted off for this milestone?
16:26:40 <cjwatson> grumble - I'll have a look
16:26:49 <slangasek> (IMHO it's not alpha-critical)
16:26:51 <cjwatson> slangasek: we're going to run into it in iso testing anyway so better deal with it for a2
16:26:55 <cjwatson> imo
16:26:55 <slangasek> ok
16:27:19 <slangasek> bug twiddled
16:27:23 <slangasek> any other questions for jibel?
16:28:05 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Security team Q&A - mdeslaur
16:28:21 <mdeslaur> [link] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000754.html
16:28:25 <mdeslaur> nothing further to report
16:28:34 <slangasek> questions for mdeslaur?
16:28:36 <mdeslaur> I've adjusted a couple of bugs
16:28:41 <mdeslaur> ..
16:29:31 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Kernel team Q&A - ogasawara
16:29:35 <ogasawara> [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000755.html
16:29:35 <ogasawara> As noted in my email, we intend to upload our final Alpha-2 kernel
16:29:35 <ogasawara> today. If there are any fixes needing to land, I/we need to know about
16:29:35 <ogasawara> them now.
16:29:47 <ogasawara> Any questions?
16:29:48 <ogasawara> ..
16:30:10 <slangasek> does the new kernel fix my laptop's 15% suspend failure rate?
16:30:20 <slangasek> moving on
16:30:30 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Foundations team Q&A - cjwatson
16:30:42 <cjwatson> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000768.html - sorry for late posting this week
16:30:45 <cjwatson> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-foundations.html
16:30:48 <cjwatson> We've caught up very slightly this week, but not by much. Trying to make progress on upgrade handling which is a major outstanding chunk of work.
16:30:51 <cjwatson> ..
16:31:35 <slangasek> possibly of note is the resolvconf package landing in the seeds overnight, which has caused some upgrade and livecd failures
16:31:44 <slangasek> I will be available for tarring and feathering after the meeting
16:32:06 <ogasawara> slangasek: rls-p-tracking-bugs.html is back
16:32:09 <slangasek> in the meantime, stgraber is working on getting those regressions fixed today
16:32:14 <slangasek> ogasawara: thanks
16:32:33 <slangasek> any other questions for foundations?
16:32:37 <cjwatson> yes, I kicked some of the livecd builds but not all
16:32:51 <stgraber> yeah! having a lot of fun fixing the world (just discovered that LXC is broken too
16:32:57 <cjwatson> due mostly to patch piloting this morning thoroughly distracting me
16:34:00 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Server team Q&A - arosales
16:34:17 <arosales> Hello
16:34:24 <arosales> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000774.html
16:34:34 <arosales> Still have a bug list we are working through, but oo critical bugs atm, openstack automation testing framwork now live. MaaS also taking shape, and Juju Charm automated testing well underway.
16:34:50 <arosales> Any questions?
16:35:05 <arosales> s/oo/no/
16:35:25 <arosales> ..
16:35:30 <slangasek> arosales: any bugs that are a concern for your team for alpha-2 that aren't already on the targeted list?
16:35:59 <arosales> not that I am aware of.
16:36:26 <slangasek> ok, thanks
16:36:32 <slangasek> [TOPIC] ARM team Q&A- ogra_
16:36:33 <arosales> sure, np.
16:36:38 <ogra_> thats me !
16:36:46 <ogra_> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000777.html
16:37:12 <ogra_> i dont really know much about the d-i stuff yet, since that only came up yesterday and NCommander hasnt been around all day ...
16:37:38 <ogra_> but i know that he (was supposed to) talked to cjwatson yaesterday about it
16:37:42 <ogra_> ..
16:38:14 <ogra_> cjwatson, anything to add on the plans ?
16:38:16 <ogra_> ..
16:38:22 <slangasek> ogra_: well, AIUI your team is asking for a d-i build for a kernel that we aren't even remotely going to consider providing security support for
16:38:49 <ogra_> slangasek, right, my thought was to use a PPA, but michael claims that doesnt work
16:38:55 <ogra_> ..
16:39:03 <slangasek> I advised NCommander yesterday that the best option under the circumstances is probably to clone the d-i source package, maintaining it as a bzr branch, and push this separate package to universe
16:39:14 <ogra_> ok
16:39:17 <slangasek> cjwatson: not sure if you agree with that
16:39:27 <slangasek> (we can also take this out-of-band for further discussion)
16:39:45 <ogra_> sound like a lot extra work vs using a PPA though
16:40:10 <ogra_> right, and its michaels project, i'm only the (uninformed) reporter here
16:40:13 <ogra_> ..
16:40:23 <slangasek> any other questions for ARM?
16:40:33 <fabo> o/
16:40:45 <cjwatson> slangasek: that sounds highly unpleasant ...
16:40:49 <fabo> ogra_: any eta for m5 kernel tree to use?
16:40:55 <slangasek> cjwatson: the whole thing is highly unpleasant, AFAICS
16:41:03 <ogra_> fabo, its in the hands of linaro
16:41:09 <fabo> mx5
16:41:14 <cjwatson> I'd rather just hack d-i to build this image out of universe :P
16:41:24 <ogra_> slangasek, cjwatson thats why i said PPA from the start ....
16:41:33 <cjwatson> it won't make the situation particularly worse except that the images will end up in main/installer-arm*/
16:41:45 <cjwatson> but they'll do that if you clone d-i too
16:41:45 <slangasek> ogra_: cdimage pulling from a ppa is no less unpleasant
16:41:55 <cjwatson> ... and there's no code for that
16:41:56 <ogra_> cdimage ?
16:42:06 <cjwatson> and PPAs don't support d-i custom uploads
16:42:10 <ogra_> all we need is a netinst image
16:42:15 <slangasek> that's not what I was told
16:42:16 <cjwatson> you won't get that from a PPA
16:42:22 <slangasek> anyway, let's offline this
16:42:23 <ogra_> oh, ok
16:42:27 <fabo> ogra_: sounds like we're asking to your team if we should use 3.1 or 3.2
16:42:37 <ogra_> right, i'm to uninformed to even remotely discuss it
16:42:40 <ogra_> ..
16:43:20 <ogra_> fabo, ah, well, iirc that kernel is in universe, while 3.2 would be preferred we could live with a lower version
16:43:32 <fabo> ok
16:43:34 <fabo> ..
16:43:37 <ogra_> the images we roll from it are community supported ones
16:43:39 <ogra_> ..
16:44:01 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Linaro team Q&A - fabo
16:44:17 <fabo> hi
16:44:18 <fabo> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000776.html
16:44:45 <fabo> the only question I had, has been asked (mx5)
16:44:49 <fabo> any questions?
16:44:50 <fabo> ..
16:45:05 <ogra_> funny how we both always write the same about the unity merge *g*
16:45:07 <ogra_> ..
16:45:37 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Ubuntu One Team Q&A - joshuahoover
16:46:09 <slangasek> no report on list
16:46:13 <slangasek> no joshuahoover in channel
16:46:15 <slangasek> so, moving on
16:46:20 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Desktop Team Q&A - pitti
16:46:26 <pitti> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000761.html
16:46:34 <pitti> nothign to add to that ATM, any questions?
16:46:35 <pitti> ..
16:47:26 <slangasek> pitti: I know that there's an openoffice.org upgrade ordering issue that's causing some upgrade test failures in jenkins; is that anything you guys are planning to tackle before a-2?
16:47:40 <pitti> oh, again?
16:48:00 <pitti> slangasek: wasn't, but I can add it to my list; I suppose there's a bug for it already
16:48:01 <slangasek> "again" - I thought it's been pretty continuous
16:48:07 <dbarth> pitti: o/
16:48:10 <slangasek> jibel: do you have that bug number handy?
16:48:24 <pitti> slangasek: I looked at it during my december stable+1 shift, but maybe it came back with the new lo
16:48:57 <pitti> bug 917153 ?
16:48:58 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 917153 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Precise) "failed to upgrade from oneiric to precise: /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/unopkg.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libicule.so.48: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/917153
16:49:07 <slangasek> yes, that's the one
16:49:12 <pitti> that's something Sweetshark started working on
16:49:15 <jibel> pitti, that's it.
16:49:16 <pitti> but he's on holidays now
16:49:19 <slangasek> ok
16:49:36 <slangasek> so that's a "no" for alpha-2, right?
16:49:47 <pitti> TBH I don't have much hope that me or someone else has the time to learn LibO packaging and fix that by a2
16:49:52 <pitti> yes, pretty much
16:50:17 <slangasek> ok
16:50:23 <slangasek> anything else for desktop?
16:50:28 <pitti> I'll fix the lightdm one on Monday
16:50:29 <slangasek> dbarth: did you have a question for pitti?
16:50:32 <pitti> (autologin conversion)
16:50:55 <dbarth> yes, on the x.org upload, wether that contains the xfixes tweaks
16:50:58 <dbarth> if you know
16:51:01 <pitti> to unblock the configuration migration tests in jenkins
16:51:03 <dbarth> otherwise i'll check the changelogs
16:51:21 <pitti> dbarth: there were some uploads in RAOF's PPA, and I think they landed yesterday
16:51:28 <dbarth> ah, sounds good
16:51:36 <dbarth> so we should be unblocked now then
16:51:36 <pitti> if https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxfixes/1:5.0-4ubuntu1 is what you were looking for
16:51:40 <dbarth> cool
16:51:52 <pitti> (that was the help-jason PPA)
16:51:59 <dbarth> sounds like it
16:52:39 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Unity Framework Team Q&A - dbarth
16:52:51 <dbarth> the status is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ReleaseStatus
16:53:04 <dbarth> we'll ship 5.0 for alpha-2
16:53:17 <dbarth> ie, the version that is currently integrated and hopefully stable in precise
16:53:27 <dbarth> 5.2 will be out shortly after the freeze is lifted
16:53:47 <dbarth> the report contains the rest, compiz stays the same for a-2 again
16:53:50 <dbarth> ..
16:54:01 <slangasek> dbarth: thanks
16:54:07 <slangasek> any questions on unity?
16:54:40 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Unity Services and Settings Team Q&A - olli
16:54:45 <olli> status is at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000772.html
16:55:28 <olli> the team is currently looking at fixes listed in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ps-p-indicator-refinements
16:55:45 <olli> any questions
16:56:26 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Kubuntu Team Q&A - Riddell
16:56:46 <Riddell> hi
16:56:54 <Riddell> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000762.html
16:57:00 <Riddell> python-qt4 was broken on arm but a fix is compiling away
16:57:00 <Riddell> qtwebkit-source still broken on arm, waiting on infinity to get a fix in to kernel
16:57:04 <Riddell> ..
16:57:26 <slangasek> questions for Riddell?
16:57:27 <ScottK> calligra also compiling away on arm ...
16:57:38 <ogra_> as mentioned above
16:57:39 <ogra_> ..
16:57:43 <slangasek> Riddell: what fix into kernel is waited on?
16:58:00 <Riddell> slangasek: something to let armhf use higher memory I think
16:58:08 <slangasek> I thought that was done same-day last week
16:58:24 <slangasek> Riddell: can I suggest you double-check with infinity on the current status?
16:58:27 <ScottK> No. Didn't work.
16:58:33 <slangasek> oh
16:58:37 <ScottK> slangasek: We did after the meeting last week.
16:58:49 <ScottK> Got a rebuild on an upgraded machine done and it still failed.
16:58:58 <slangasek> ok
16:59:17 <slangasek> I believe that kernel fix has been tested in other contexts, though
16:59:28 <slangasek> so if you're still OOMing on build, I think you need to look outside the kernel for the fix
16:59:42 <slangasek> because now you're hitting the 3G limit instead of the 2G limit, and that's non-negotiable
17:00:08 <slangasek> anyway, I'd suggest following up with infinity
17:00:11 <Riddell> ok needs looking into then
17:00:38 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Edubuntu Team Q&A - stgraber or highvoltage
17:00:51 <stgraber> hello
17:00:55 <slangasek> (apologies again for the late start to the meeting)
17:00:56 <stgraber> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000758.html
17:01:19 <slangasek> any questions on Edubuntu?
17:01:45 <stgraber> Daviey: I started the update of LTSP today as it needs fixing for resolvconf, hopefully it'll be uploaded this weekend (if testing doesn't show any major breakage as I don't want to break alpha2
17:01:53 <highvoltage> and Edubuntu is in UDW next week
17:02:36 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Xubuntu Team Q&A - madnick or charlie-tca
17:02:36 <stgraber> worst case scenerio, I'll cherry-pick the fix for resolvconf into our current LTSP and will look at fixing the udeb to avoid the current race condition (release targeted bug for alpha-2)
17:02:40 <stgraber> ..
17:02:48 <madnick> hi
17:02:50 <slangasek> stgraber: oops, sorry
17:02:57 <madnick> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000763.html
17:03:13 <madnick> That is all I know
17:03:15 <madnick> ..
17:03:36 <slangasek> any questions on Xubuntu?
17:03:53 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Studio Team Q&A - scott-work
17:04:02 <scott-work> see: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000759.html
17:04:03 <scott-work> work items: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-ubuntu-studio.html
17:04:13 <scott-work> thanks again to cjwatson for live-dvd work!
17:04:26 <cjwatson> np
17:04:38 <scott-work> a large concern right now is the lightdm-greeter problem which prevents x from starting on an install
17:04:55 <scott-work> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/922424
17:04:56 <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 922424 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm won't start I have console(s) only" [Undecided,Confirmed]
17:05:00 <scott-work> ..
17:05:27 <scott-work> oh, and pitti asked questions in the email that i hope i satisfactorily asnwered
17:05:28 <scott-work> ..
17:06:32 <slangasek> I see feedback on the bug from superm1 suggesting that this needs to be fixed in whatever greeter package ubuntustudio is using
17:07:10 <slangasek> scott-work: feel free to bring it to #ubuntu-devel if that doesn't do the trick
17:07:19 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lubuntu Team Q&A - gilir
17:07:26 <gilir> hi
17:07:33 <gilir> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000769.html
17:07:50 <gilir> ..
17:08:02 <slangasek> any questions on Lubuntu?
17:08:09 <pitti> sorry, I need to run out now
17:08:15 <slangasek> pitti: ack - thanks
17:08:32 <slangasek> [TOPIC] MOTU Team Q&A - tumbleweed or Laney
17:08:46 <Laney> hiya
17:08:50 <slangasek> Laney: hey there
17:08:56 <Laney> not much to report, ppc backlog is a bit of a concern
17:09:09 <Laney> also ftbfs are a bit high so we should do something about that
17:09:17 <Laney> and thanks to the patch pilots: sponsor queue is heading in the right direction
17:09:21 <Laney>
17:09:23 <Laney> ..
17:10:21 <slangasek> Laney: any particulars on ftbfs that are worth drawing out, or is it general archive malaise?
17:10:27 <slangasek> (or un-analyzed)
17:11:02 <Laney> I haven't analysed it yet, but another drive like we had last cycle would be nice (don't know if a rebuild is planned to get the numbers refreshed)
17:11:18 <slangasek> doko is planning a rebuild now-ish
17:11:30 <slangasek> I don't know if it encompasses universe however... actually that might be a toolchain test rebuild
17:11:34 <slangasek> so nevermind
17:11:39 <slangasek> please talk to doko about your needS
17:11:59 <Laney> I just looked at qa.uw.c/ftbfs
17:12:06 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Any other business, comments, questions?
17:12:17 <slangasek> anything else?
17:12:30 <slangasek> 'cause I know you're all eager to spend more time in a meeting at your EOW
17:12:40 <slangasek> #endmeeting

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