2012-01-27

12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) Weekly Meeting

Upcoming Dates

  • 2012/02/02 - Alpha 2

  • 2012/02/16 - Feature Freeze

  • 2012/02/16 - 10.04.4

Release Overview

Meeting Logistics

  • No meetings, day after milestone release. (ie. no meeting on 02/03)
    • Team summaries should still be mailed to ubuntu-release on Thurs or Friday
    • If urgent items, ad hoc meeting will be called on Monday.

Hardware Certification team update - mlegris

QA team update - jibel

Security team update - mdeslaur

Kernel team update - ogasawara

Foundations team update - cjwatson

Server team update - arosales

ARM team update - ogra

Linaro update - fabo

Ubuntu One Team - joshuahoover

Desktop Team update - pitti

Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth

Desktop Systems Engineering Update - olli

Kubuntu Team update - Riddell

Edubuntu Team update - stgraber or highvoltage

Xubuntu Team update - madnick

Ubuntu Studio update - scott-work

Lubuntu Team update - gilir

Mythbuntu Team update - superm1

  • see: TBD

MOTU Team Q&A - tumbleweed or Laney

  • ?

10.04.4

Other Topics

  • none

Q&A by the teams on the above status

Minutes

Meeting summary

  • Release general overview - slangasek

LINK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2012-01-27 (slangasek, 16:06:37) LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/thread.html (slangasek, 16:06:57) LINK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule release schedule (slangasek, 16:07:08) LINK: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/ubuntu-release-calendar/ release schedule (slangasek, 16:07:41) LINK: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html bugs the engineering teams have committed to fix (slangasek, 16:08:03) ACTION: slangasek to follow up on rls-p-tracking report breakage (slangasek, 16:11:26) LINK: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ work item tracker (slangasek, 16:13:48)

  • Alpha-2

LINK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=44326&field.tag=rls-mgr-p-tracking bugs engineering teams have committed to fixing for alpha-2 (slangasek, 16:15:36) LINK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=44326&field.tag=rls-mgr-p-tracking bugs that have been flagged by release management for fixing in alpha-2 (slangasek, 16:16:06) LINK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=44326&field.tag=rls-p-tracking bugs engineering teams have committed to fixing that are milestoned to alpha-2 (slangasek, 16:16:44)

  • Hardware Certification team update - mlegris or brendand

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000753.html (mlegris, 16:22:18)

  • QA team update - jibel

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000767.html (jibel, 16:24:07)

  • Security team Q&A - mdeslaur

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000754.html (mdeslaur, 16:28:21)

  • Kernel team Q&A - ogasawara

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000755.html (ogasawara, 16:29:35)

  • Foundations team Q&A - cjwatson

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000768.html - sorry for late posting this week (cjwatson, 16:30:42) LINK: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-foundations.html (cjwatson, 16:30:45)

  • Server team Q&A - arosales

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000774.html (arosales, 16:34:24)

  • ARM team Q&A- ogra_

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000777.html (ogra_, 16:36:46)

  • Linaro team Q&A - fabo

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000776.html (fabo, 16:44:18)

  • Ubuntu One Team Q&A - joshuahoover

  • Desktop Team Q&A - pitti

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000761.html (pitti, 16:46:26)

  • Unity Framework Team Q&A - dbarth

  • Unity Services and Settings Team Q&A - olli

  • Kubuntu Team Q&A - Riddell

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000762.html (Riddell, 16:56:54)

  • Edubuntu Team Q&A - stgraber or highvoltage

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000758.html (stgraber, 17:00:56)

  • Xubuntu Team Q&A - madnick or charlie-tca

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000763.html (madnick, 17:02:57)

  • Ubuntu Studio Team Q&A - scott-work

LINK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/922424 (scott-work, 17:04:55)

  • Lubuntu Team Q&A - gilir

LINK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000769.html (gilir, 17:07:33)

  • MOTU Team Q&A - tumbleweed or Laney

  • Any other business, comments, questions?

Meeting ended at 17:12:40 UTC.

Votes

Action items

  • slangasek to follow up on rls-p-tracking report breakage

Action items, by person

  • slangasek
  • * slangasek to follow up on rls-p-tracking report breakage

People present (lines said)

  • slangasek (125)
  • ogra_ (27)
  • cjwatson (23)
  • pitti (22)
  • dbarth (14)
  • fabo (11)
  • ubottu (9)
  • Riddell (9)
  • ogasawara (8)
  • Laney (8)
  • scott-work (8)
  • arosales (8)
  • stgraber (6)
  • mdeslaur (6)
  • jibel (5)
  • madnick (4)
  • meetingology` (4)
  • tyhicks (4)
  • ScottK (4)
  • olli (3)
  • mlegris (3)
  • gilir (3)
  • highvoltage (1)

Full Log

  • 16:05:56 <slangasek> #startmeeting

    16:05:56 <meetingology`> Meeting started Fri Jan 27 16:05:56 2012 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.

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    16:06:25 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Release general overview - slangasek

    16:06:29 <slangasek> Agenda can be found:

    16:06:37 <slangasek> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2012-01-27

    16:06:50 <slangasek> Individual team status links were/will be added to it from:

    16:06:57 <slangasek> #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/thread.html

    16:07:08 <slangasek> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule release schedule 16:07:34 * slangasek wonders if the bot is paying attention

    16:07:41 <slangasek> #link http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/ubuntu-release-calendar/ release schedule

    16:08:03 <slangasek> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html bugs the engineering teams have committed to fix

    16:08:28 <slangasek> if you have other bugs you'd like the engineering teams to consider for fixing, they should be assigned to specific teams so they can be found.

    16:08:38 <slangasek> Upcoming dates:

    16:08:42 <slangasek> • 2012/02/02 - Alpha 2

    16:08:46 <slangasek> • 2012/02/16 - Feature Freeze

    16:08:50 <slangasek> • 2012/02/16 - 10.04.4

    16:09:26 <cjwatson> rls-p-tracking-bugs is, as usual for reports.qa pages, hopelessly wrong

    16:09:41 <cjwatson> there are more than four bugs tagged rls-p-tracking

    16:10:07 <slangasek> oh gar

    16:10:08 <Riddell> who's incharge of alpha 2?

    16:10:14 <slangasek> Riddell: o/

    16:10:27 <Riddell> good luck Smile :)

    16:10:50 <slangasek> hmm, thanks Wink ;)

    16:11:26 <slangasek> [ACTION] slangasek to follow up on rls-p-tracking report breakage 16:11:26 * meetingology` slangasek to follow up on rls-p-tracking report breakage

    16:11:51 <ogasawara> slangasek: just fyi, I've pinged bjf about it

    16:13:13 <slangasek> ***WORKITEMS:*** we are still above the overall trendline unfortunately; we really need to get workitems postponed that aren't going to happen so that other teams know what to expect. So please work with your teams to mark as postponed work that isn't going to happen

    16:13:48 <slangasek> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ work item tracker

    16:14:12 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Alpha-2

    16:14:59 <slangasek> Alpha 2 is due next Thursday. I'm planning for the soft freeze to go into effect Tuesday morning UTC for milestone preparation, so please plan your uploads accordingly

    16:15:36 <slangasek> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=44326&field.tag=rls-mgr-p-tracking bugs engineering teams have committed to fixing for alpha-2

    16:15:47 <slangasek> er no, sorry

    16:16:06 <slangasek> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=44326&field.tag=rls-mgr-p-tracking bugs that have been flagged by release management for fixing in alpha-2

    16:16:44 <slangasek> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=44326&field.tag=rls-p-tracking bugs engineering teams have committed to fixing that are milestoned to alpha-2

    16:17:15 <slangasek> does the latter set bear discussing in this meeting?

    16:17:36 <slangasek> if you're not expecting a fix uploaded by EOD Monday, they probably need the milestone moved

    16:18:06 <slangasek> bug #830949, bug #344878, bug #800826, bug #850264, bug #872446, bug #905754, bug #790240

    16:18:11 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 830949 in compiz (Ubuntu) "[Intel N10 Graphics] Need Compiz' "Copy to Texture" plugin so can display on multi-head layouts bigger than the max GL texture size" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/830949

    16:18:12 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 344878 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "file name too long when creating new file (ecryptfs_lookup: lookup_one_len() returned [-36] on lower_dentry)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/344878

    16:18:13 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 800826 in apparmor (Ubuntu Precise) "aa-notify doesn't display certain apparmor events" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/800826

    16:18:15 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 850264 in apt (Ubuntu Precise) "given a foreign architecture of i386 on amd64 machine, and an outdated libc, apt tries to remove libc-bin" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850264

    16:18:15 <slangasek> (seven bugs, one with two tasks)

    16:18:16 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 872446 in apparmor (Ubuntu Precise) "aa-logprof should detect denials as well as complaints" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872446

    16:19:21 <slangasek> Any comments on those bugs?

    16:19:50 <mdeslaur> I'll move the milestones on the security team ones, they won't be ready for alpha 2

    16:19:56 <slangasek> mdeslaur: ack, thanks

    16:20:08 <tyhicks> mdeslaur, slangasek: 344878 has a fix in the current precise kernel

    16:20:26 <slangasek> and I'll send out a milestone freeze pre-announcement mail today to ubuntu-devel to make sure everyone's on the same page

    16:20:29 <tyhicks> I still have to do some touchups on it, but what's currently there is "good enough"

    16:20:48 <slangasek> tyhicks: sounds like the bug tasks should either be marked as 'fix released' or have the milestone moved to track the further work

    16:21:09 <tyhicks> slangasek: ack - marking it fixed release and I'll leave it inprogress on the upstream task

    16:21:09 <slangasek> any other comments/questions on alpha-2?

    16:21:11 <mdeslaur> tyhicks: I'll mark it as fix released thanks.

    16:21:54 <tyhicks> mdeslaur: I'll fix that, too

    16:21:57 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Hardware Certification team update - mlegris or brendand

    16:22:12 <pitti> slangasek: I asked mvo about apt, and will move the compiz one (release got delayed)

    16:22:18 <mlegris> [link] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000753.html

    16:22:28 <slangasek> pitti: the apt one is pretty critical from our side and I'm working with him to get something in fwiw

    16:22:38 <mlegris> usual weekly testing, next week we'll be starting on A2

    16:22:42 <pitti> slangasek: yes, I fully agree

    16:22:42 <slangasek> (where by "working with" I mean "testing and repeatedly reporting regressions" :P)

    16:22:50 <mlegris> ..

    16:23:11 <slangasek> mlegris: thanks

    16:23:14 <slangasek> questions for mlegris?

    16:23:37 <slangasek> [TOPIC] QA team update - jibel

    16:24:07 <jibel> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000767.html

    16:24:57 <jibel> as pitti mentioned bug 922478 is fixed but alternate is still failing with bug 922646

    16:24:59 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 922478 in fonts-tlwg (Ubuntu) "ubuntu alternate 20120127 failed to install: ttf-thai-tlwg : Depends: fonts-thai-tlwg but it is not installable" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922478

    16:25:00 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 922646 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "precise alternate LVM failed to install: no root file system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922646

    16:25:02 <cjwatson> wut

    16:25:10 <cjwatson> I rebuilt it to fix that and tested that report.html was empty now

    16:25:12 <cjwatson> are you *sure*

    16:25:24 <cjwatson> oh sorry, misread, you mean a different bug now

    16:25:32 <pitti> jibel: well, I fixed the most probable cause of it, I haven't actually re-tested; but I wouldn't see what's wrong now

    16:25:40 <pitti> ah, likewise, sorry

    16:26:24 <jibel> this is the only issue, no problem with server, and we'll review desktop images

    16:26:25 <jibel> ..

    16:26:35 <slangasek> cjwatson, jibel: should 922646 be targeted to alpha-2? or should this be release-noted off for this milestone?

    16:26:40 <cjwatson> grumble - I'll have a look

    16:26:49 <slangasek> (IMHO it's not alpha-critical)

    16:26:51 <cjwatson> slangasek: we're going to run into it in iso testing anyway so better deal with it for a2

    16:26:55 <cjwatson> imo

    16:26:55 <slangasek> ok

    16:27:19 <slangasek> bug twiddled

    16:27:23 <slangasek> any other questions for jibel?

    16:28:05 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Security team Q&A - mdeslaur

    16:28:21 <mdeslaur> [link] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000754.html

    16:28:25 <mdeslaur> nothing further to report

    16:28:34 <slangasek> questions for mdeslaur?

    16:28:36 <mdeslaur> I've adjusted a couple of bugs

    16:28:41 <mdeslaur> ..

    16:29:31 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Kernel team Q&A - ogasawara

    16:29:35 <ogasawara> [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000755.html

    16:29:35 <ogasawara> As noted in my email, we intend to upload our final Alpha-2 kernel

    16:29:35 <ogasawara> today. If there are any fixes needing to land, I/we need to know about

    16:29:35 <ogasawara> them now.

    16:29:47 <ogasawara> Any questions?

    16:29:48 <ogasawara> ..

    16:30:10 <slangasek> does the new kernel fix my laptop's 15% suspend failure rate? Wink ;)

    16:30:20 <slangasek> moving on Smile :)

    16:30:30 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Foundations team Q&A - cjwatson

    16:30:42 <cjwatson> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000768.html - sorry for late posting this week

    16:30:45 <cjwatson> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-foundations.html

    16:30:48 <cjwatson> We've caught up very slightly this week, but not by much. Trying to make progress on upgrade handling which is a major outstanding chunk of work.

    16:30:51 <cjwatson> ..

    16:31:35 <slangasek> possibly of note is the resolvconf package landing in the seeds overnight, which has caused some upgrade and livecd failures

    16:31:44 <slangasek> I will be available for tarring and feathering after the meeting

    16:32:06 <ogasawara> slangasek: rls-p-tracking-bugs.html is back

    16:32:09 <slangasek> in the meantime, stgraber is working on getting those regressions fixed today

    16:32:14 <slangasek> ogasawara: thanks

    16:32:33 <slangasek> any other questions for foundations?

    16:32:37 <cjwatson> yes, I kicked some of the livecd builds but not all

    16:32:51 <stgraber> yeah! having a lot of fun fixing the world Wink ;) (just discovered that LXC is broken too Funny :))

    16:32:57 <cjwatson> due mostly to patch piloting this morning thoroughly distracting me

    16:34:00 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Server team Q&A - arosales

    16:34:17 <arosales> Hello

    16:34:24 <arosales> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000774.html

    16:34:34 <arosales> Still have a bug list we are working through, but oo critical bugs atm, openstack automation testing framwork now live. MaaS also taking shape, and Juju Charm automated testing well underway.

    16:34:50 <arosales> Any questions?

    16:35:05 <arosales> s/oo/no/

    16:35:25 <arosales> ..

    16:35:30 <slangasek> arosales: any bugs that are a concern for your team for alpha-2 that aren't already on the targeted list?

    16:35:59 <arosales> not that I am aware of.

    16:36:26 <slangasek> ok, thanks

    16:36:32 <slangasek> [TOPIC] ARM team Q&A- ogra_

    16:36:33 <arosales> sure, np.

    16:36:38 <ogra_> thats me !

    16:36:46 <ogra_> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000777.html

    16:37:12 <ogra_> i dont really know much about the d-i stuff yet, since that only came up yesterday and NCommander hasnt been around all day ...

    16:37:38 <ogra_> but i know that he (was supposed to) talked to cjwatson yaesterday about it

    16:37:42 <ogra_> ..

    16:38:14 <ogra_> cjwatson, anything to add on the plans ?

    16:38:16 <ogra_> ..

    16:38:22 <slangasek> ogra_: well, AIUI your team is asking for a d-i build for a kernel that we aren't even remotely going to consider providing security support for

    16:38:49 <ogra_> slangasek, right, my thought was to use a PPA, but michael claims that doesnt work

    16:38:55 <ogra_> ..

    16:39:03 <slangasek> I advised NCommander yesterday that the best option under the circumstances is probably to clone the d-i source package, maintaining it as a bzr branch, and push this separate package to universe

    16:39:14 <ogra_> ok

    16:39:17 <slangasek> cjwatson: not sure if you agree with that

    16:39:27 <slangasek> (we can also take this out-of-band for further discussion)

    16:39:45 <ogra_> sound like a lot extra work vs using a PPA though

    16:40:10 <ogra_> right, and its michaels project, i'm only the (uninformed) reporter here Smile :)

    16:40:13 <ogra_> ..

    16:40:23 <slangasek> any other questions for ARM?

    16:40:33 <fabo> o/

    16:40:45 <cjwatson> slangasek: that sounds highly unpleasant ...

    16:40:49 <fabo> ogra_: any eta for m5 kernel tree to use?

    16:40:55 <slangasek> cjwatson: the whole thing is highly unpleasant, AFAICS Smile :)

    16:41:03 <ogra_> fabo, its in the hands of linaro

    16:41:09 <fabo> mx5

    16:41:14 <cjwatson> I'd rather just hack d-i to build this image out of universe :P

    16:41:24 <ogra_> slangasek, cjwatson thats why i said PPA from the start ....

    16:41:33 <cjwatson> it won't make the situation particularly worse except that the images will end up in main/installer-arm*/

    16:41:45 <cjwatson> but they'll do that if you clone d-i too

    16:41:45 <slangasek> ogra_: cdimage pulling from a ppa is no less unpleasant

    16:41:55 <cjwatson> ... and there's no code for that

    16:41:56 <ogra_> cdimage ?

    16:42:06 <cjwatson> and PPAs don't support d-i custom uploads

    16:42:10 <ogra_> all we need is a netinst image

    16:42:15 <slangasek> that's not what I was told

    16:42:16 <cjwatson> you won't get that from a PPA

    16:42:22 <slangasek> anyway, let's offline this

    16:42:23 <ogra_> oh, ok

    16:42:27 <fabo> ogra_: sounds like we're asking to your team if we should use 3.1 or 3.2

    16:42:37 <ogra_> right, i'm to uninformed to even remotely discuss it

    16:42:40 <ogra_> ..

    16:43:20 <ogra_> fabo, ah, well, iirc that kernel is in universe, while 3.2 would be preferred we could live with a lower version

    16:43:32 <fabo> ok

    16:43:34 <fabo> ..

    16:43:37 <ogra_> the images we roll from it are community supported ones

    16:43:39 <ogra_> ..

    16:44:01 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Linaro team Q&A - fabo

    16:44:17 <fabo> hi

    16:44:18 <fabo> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000776.html

    16:44:45 <fabo> the only question I had, has been asked (mx5)

    16:44:49 <fabo> any questions?

    16:44:50 <fabo> ..

    16:45:05 <ogra_> funny how we both always write the same about the unity merge *g*

    16:45:07 <ogra_> ..

    16:45:37 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Ubuntu One Team Q&A - joshuahoover

    16:46:09 <slangasek> no report on list

    16:46:13 <slangasek> no joshuahoover in channel

    16:46:15 <slangasek> so, moving on

    16:46:20 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Desktop Team Q&A - pitti

    16:46:26 <pitti> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000761.html

    16:46:34 <pitti> nothign to add to that ATM, any questions?

    16:46:35 <pitti> ..

    16:47:26 <slangasek> pitti: I know that there's an openoffice.org upgrade ordering issue that's causing some upgrade test failures in jenkins; is that anything you guys are planning to tackle before a-2?

    16:47:40 <pitti> oh, again?

    16:48:00 <pitti> slangasek: wasn't, but I can add it to my list; I suppose there's a bug for it already

    16:48:01 <slangasek> "again" - I thought it's been pretty continuous Smile :)

    16:48:07 <dbarth> pitti: o/

    16:48:10 <slangasek> jibel: do you have that bug number handy?

    16:48:24 <pitti> slangasek: I looked at it during my december stable+1 shift, but maybe it came back with the new lo

    16:48:57 <pitti> bug 917153 ?

    16:48:58 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 917153 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Precise) "failed to upgrade from oneiric to precise: /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/unopkg.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libicule.so.48: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/917153

    16:49:07 <slangasek> yes, that's the one

    16:49:12 <pitti> that's something Sweetshark started working on

    16:49:15 <jibel> pitti, that's it.

    16:49:16 <pitti> but he's on holidays now

    16:49:19 <slangasek> ok

    16:49:36 <slangasek> so that's a "no" for alpha-2, right?

    16:49:47 <pitti> TBH I don't have much hope that me or someone else has the time to learn LibO packaging and fix that by a2

    16:49:52 <pitti> yes, pretty much

    16:50:17 <slangasek> ok

    16:50:23 <slangasek> anything else for desktop?

    16:50:28 <pitti> I'll fix the lightdm one on Monday

    16:50:29 <slangasek> dbarth: did you have a question for pitti?

    16:50:32 <pitti> (autologin conversion)

    16:50:55 <dbarth> yes, on the x.org upload, wether that contains the xfixes tweaks

    16:50:58 <dbarth> if you know

    16:51:01 <pitti> to unblock the configuration migration tests in jenkins

    16:51:03 <dbarth> otherwise i'll check the changelogs

    16:51:21 <pitti> dbarth: there were some uploads in RAOF's PPA, and I think they landed yesterday

    16:51:28 <dbarth> ah, sounds good

    16:51:36 <dbarth> so we should be unblocked now then

    16:51:36 <pitti> if https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxfixes/1:5.0-4ubuntu1 is what you were looking for

    16:51:40 <dbarth> cool

    16:51:52 <pitti> (that was the help-jason PPA)

    16:51:59 <dbarth> Wink ;) sounds like it

    16:52:39 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Unity Framework Team Q&A - dbarth

    16:52:51 <dbarth> the status is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ReleaseStatus

    16:53:04 <dbarth> we'll ship 5.0 for alpha-2

    16:53:17 <dbarth> ie, the version that is currently integrated and hopefully stable in precise

    16:53:27 <dbarth> 5.2 will be out shortly after the freeze is lifted

    16:53:47 <dbarth> the report contains the rest, compiz stays the same for a-2 again

    16:53:50 <dbarth> ..

    16:54:01 <slangasek> dbarth: thanks

    16:54:07 <slangasek> any questions on unity?

    16:54:40 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Unity Services and Settings Team Q&A - olli

    16:54:45 <olli> status is at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000772.html

    16:55:28 <olli> the team is currently looking at fixes listed in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ps-p-indicator-refinements

    16:55:45 <olli> any questions

    16:56:26 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Kubuntu Team Q&A - Riddell

    16:56:46 <Riddell> hi

    16:56:54 <Riddell> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000762.html

    16:57:00 <Riddell> python-qt4 was broken on arm but a fix is compiling away

    16:57:00 <Riddell> qtwebkit-source still broken on arm, waiting on infinity to get a fix in to kernel

    16:57:04 <Riddell> ..

    16:57:26 <slangasek> questions for Riddell?

    16:57:27 <ScottK> calligra also compiling away on arm ...

    16:57:38 <ogra_> as mentioned above Smile :)

    16:57:39 <ogra_> ..

    16:57:43 <slangasek> Riddell: what fix into kernel is waited on?

    16:58:00 <Riddell> slangasek: something to let armhf use higher memory I think

    16:58:08 <slangasek> I thought that was done same-day last week

    16:58:24 <slangasek> Riddell: can I suggest you double-check with infinity on the current status?

    16:58:27 <ScottK> No. Didn't work.

    16:58:33 <slangasek> oh

    16:58:37 <ScottK> slangasek: We did after the meeting last week.

    16:58:49 <ScottK> Got a rebuild on an upgraded machine done and it still failed.

    16:58:58 <slangasek> ok

    16:59:17 <slangasek> I believe that kernel fix has been tested in other contexts, though

    16:59:28 <slangasek> so if you're still OOMing on build, I think you need to look outside the kernel for the fix

    16:59:42 <slangasek> because now you're hitting the 3G limit instead of the 2G limit, and that's non-negotiable

    17:00:08 <slangasek> anyway, I'd suggest following up with infinity

    17:00:11 <Riddell> ok needs looking into then

    17:00:38 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Edubuntu Team Q&A - stgraber or highvoltage

    17:00:51 <stgraber> hello

    17:00:55 <slangasek> (apologies again for the late start to the meeting)

    17:00:56 <stgraber> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000758.html

    17:01:19 <slangasek> any questions on Edubuntu?

    17:01:45 <stgraber> Daviey: I started the update of LTSP today as it needs fixing for resolvconf, hopefully it'll be uploaded this weekend (if testing doesn't show any major breakage as I don't want to break alpha2 Funny :))

    17:01:53 <highvoltage> and Edubuntu is in UDW next week

    17:02:36 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Xubuntu Team Q&A - madnick or charlie-tca

    17:02:36 <stgraber> worst case scenerio, I'll cherry-pick the fix for resolvconf into our current LTSP and will look at fixing the udeb to avoid the current race condition (release targeted bug for alpha-2)

    17:02:40 <stgraber> ..

    17:02:48 <madnick> hi

    17:02:50 <slangasek> stgraber: oops, sorry

    17:02:57 <madnick> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000763.html

    17:03:13 <madnick> That is all I know Smile :)

    17:03:15 <madnick> ..

    17:03:36 <slangasek> any questions on Xubuntu?

    17:03:53 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Studio Team Q&A - scott-work

    17:04:02 <scott-work> see: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000759.html

    17:04:03 <scott-work> work items: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-ubuntu-studio.html

    17:04:13 <scott-work> thanks again to cjwatson for live-dvd work!

    17:04:26 <cjwatson> np

    17:04:38 <scott-work> a large concern right now is the lightdm-greeter problem which prevents x from starting on an install

    17:04:55 <scott-work> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/922424

    17:04:56 <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 922424 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm won't start I have console(s) only" [Undecided,Confirmed]

    17:05:00 <scott-work> ..

    17:05:27 <scott-work> oh, and pitti asked questions in the email that i hope i satisfactorily asnwered

    17:05:28 <scott-work> ..

    17:06:32 <slangasek> I see feedback on the bug from superm1 suggesting that this needs to be fixed in whatever greeter package ubuntustudio is using

    17:07:10 <slangasek> scott-work: feel free to bring it to #ubuntu-devel if that doesn't do the trick

    17:07:19 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lubuntu Team Q&A - gilir

    17:07:26 <gilir> hi

    17:07:33 <gilir> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000769.html

    17:07:50 <gilir> ..

    17:08:02 <slangasek> any questions on Lubuntu?

    17:08:09 <pitti> sorry, I need to run out now

    17:08:15 <slangasek> pitti: ack - thanks

    17:08:32 <slangasek> [TOPIC] MOTU Team Q&A - tumbleweed or Laney

    17:08:46 <Laney> hiya

    17:08:50 <slangasek> Laney: hey there

    17:08:56 <Laney> not much to report, ppc backlog is a bit of a concern

    17:09:09 <Laney> also ftbfs are a bit high so we should do something about that

    17:09:17 <Laney> and thanks to the patch pilots: sponsor queue is heading in the right direction

    17:09:21 <Laney> Smile :-)

    17:09:23 <Laney> ..

    17:10:21 <slangasek> Laney: any particulars on ftbfs that are worth drawing out, or is it general archive malaise?

    17:10:27 <slangasek> (or un-analyzed)

    17:11:02 <Laney> I haven't analysed it yet, but another drive like we had last cycle would be nice (don't know if a rebuild is planned to get the numbers refreshed)

    17:11:18 <slangasek> doko is planning a rebuild now-ish

    17:11:30 <slangasek> I don't know if it encompasses universe however... actually that might be a toolchain test rebuild

    17:11:34 <slangasek> so nevermind

    17:11:39 <slangasek> please talk to doko about your needS Smile :)

    17:11:59 <Laney> I just looked at qa.uw.c/ftbfs

    17:12:06 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Any other business, comments, questions?

    17:12:17 <slangasek> anything else?

    17:12:30 <slangasek> 'cause I know you're all eager to spend more time in a meeting at your EOW Smile :)

    17:12:40 <slangasek> #endmeeting

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