SpeechControl/Meetings/20110212

* Make a list of individuals to work on the Client-Side of InfernoBot.
* Contact dreamstudio for audio work.
* AAK (Ask, assign, kidnap)
* Nullify the nautilus-voicecontrol project; Simon provides such a functionality.
* Re-use software

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Daniel0108 (143)
JackyAlcine (141)
UndiFineD (57)
meetingology (53)
hajour (40)
MrChrisDruif (29)
phillw (15)
igii (15)
georgs (2)
Muscovy (2)
akshatj (1)
dualbus (1)
DragonEyes (1)

People present (lines said)(2)

UndiFineD (15)
JackyAlcine (9)
hajour (7)
phillw (5)
meetingology (3)
Daniel0108 (3)
leoquant (2)

Full Log

 17:00:01 <JackyAlcine> #startmeeting
 17:00:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Sat Feb 12 17:00:01 2011 UTC.  The chair is JackyAlcine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell.
 17:00:01 <meetingology> Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting.
 17:00:18 <UndiFineD> oh it is here
 17:00:24 <Daniel0108> JackyAlcine: add me to chair list :)
 17:00:30 <JackyAlcine> #chair Daniel0108
 17:00:30 <meetingology> Current chairs: Daniel0108 JackyAlcine
 17:00:31 <igii> me too
 17:00:35 <UndiFineD> heh, I thought the meeting room
 17:00:35 <igii> noooo
 17:00:37 <phillw> I thought it was on the main channel?
 17:00:45 <Daniel0108> okay :)
 17:00:52 <Daniel0108> no it's a devs meeting ;)
 17:01:07 <JackyAlcine> Didn't want to flush out the main channel.
 17:01:07 <UndiFineD> ok, please continue
 17:01:20 <JackyAlcine> Alright, we have a handful of things to address today.
 17:01:36 <JackyAlcine> First up; our testing team.

Testing group

 17:01:41 <Daniel0108> #topic Testing group
 17:01:41 <meetingology> TOPIC: Testing group
 17:02:07 <JackyAlcine> Time and time again, leoquant has been beyond eagar to test our programs.
 17:02:27 <JackyAlcine> But as development here hasn't been moving as smoothly as we'd like; he doesn't get ot.
 17:02:39 <phillw> I also have a couple of people who would help.
 17:03:16 <JackyAlcine> We'd like to list these testing people and have every alpha release shipped out for them to test.
 17:03:27 <JackyAlcine> A list of programs that can be tested are coming up.
 17:03:56 <JackyAlcine> We also considered targeting a few other Linux distros outside of Ubuntu; like Fedora and Mandriva.
 17:04:34 <JackyAlcine> If a tester found an issue with an application, they can report the bug on Launchpad with the tag 'debug'.
 17:04:44 <JackyAlcine> This way, we can build up efficient blueprints.
 17:04:56 <JackyAlcine> Daniel0108: would you like to discuss the next topic.
 17:05:01 <Daniel0108> okay
 17:05:13 <Daniel0108> We thought about having a Mentoring program, like in the UBT
 17:05:30 <Daniel0108> There will be 4 groups.
 17:05:46 <Daniel0108> Developing, Documentation, Support and Bugs
 17:06:07 <Daniel0108> The Developing group is teaching programming languages to the team members.
 17:06:12 <hajour> is the meeting not in ubuntu-meeting?
 17:06:19 <Daniel0108> There are currently 2 languages to teach
 17:06:23 <Daniel0108> hajour, it's a devs meeting ;)
 17:06:29 <Daniel0108> C++ and Python
 17:06:56 <Daniel0108> The Documentation group is managing the development wiki on launchpad and the ubuntu wiki pages.
 17:07:00 <hajour> well now i am embarrassed because i just talked in ubuntu-meeting
 17:07:23 <Daniel0108> The support group is explaining what SpeechControl is, who we are and what we aim for.
 17:07:35 <Daniel0108> and they're helping newcomers to get into the team.
 17:07:36 <hajour> sorry for being late btw
 17:07:38 <JackyAlcine> hajour, I do that myself a bit too often. >_<
 17:07:41 <Daniel0108> hajour, no problem ;)
 17:07:43 <JackyAlcine> hajour: It's cool.
 17:07:45 <MrChrisDruif> Hai
 17:07:54 <hajour> reading back
 17:07:54 <JackyAlcine> Bugl: continue.
 17:08:02 <Daniel0108> The bug group is triaging bugs, debugging, fixing and testing alpha relases
 17:08:03 <MrChrisDruif> I've made it
 17:08:20 <Daniel0108> I want to start a poll if we need a Bug Group now, or maybe later.
 17:08:27 <Daniel0108> #idea Bug Focus Group now or later?
 17:08:38 <Daniel0108> #vote Bug Focus Group now or later?
 17:08:38 <meetingology> Please vote on: Bug Focus Group now or later?
 17:08:38 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
 17:08:45 <JackyAlcine> -1
 17:08:45 <meetingology> -1 received from JackyAlcine
 17:08:51 <Daniel0108> 0
 17:08:51 <meetingology> 0 received from Daniel0108
 17:08:57 <MrChrisDruif> How can we vote on this?
 17:09:00 <JackyAlcine> NOTE: now = 1, later = -1, undecided = 0
 17:09:08 <Daniel0108> just write 1, -1 or 0
 17:09:17 <igii> -1
 17:09:17 <meetingology> -1 received from igii
 17:09:26 <UndiFineD> huh what is being voted on ?
 17:09:27 <MrChrisDruif> 1
 17:09:31 <MrChrisDruif> +1
 17:09:31 <meetingology> +1 received from MrChrisDruif
 17:09:36 <Daniel0108> UndiFineD: Bug Focus Group now or later?
 17:09:42 <UndiFineD> later
 17:09:46 <Daniel0108> so write -1
 17:09:49 <UndiFineD> -1
 17:09:49 <meetingology> -1 received from UndiFineD
 17:10:02 <Daniel0108> #endvote
 17:10:02 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Bug Focus Group now or later?
 17:10:02 <meetingology> Votes for:1 Votes against:3 Abstentions:1
 17:10:02 <meetingology> Motion denied
 17:10:04 <hajour> -1
 17:10:19 <JackyAlcine> O.O Daniel0108, you're supposed to wait, lol.
 17:10:20 <Daniel0108> good
 17:10:34 <Daniel0108> JackyAlcine: there are too many votes against it ;)
 17:10:37 <hajour> iits a good idea but not for now Daniel0108
 17:10:44 <JackyAlcine> Hm.
 17:10:44 <Daniel0108> yeah :)
 17:10:54 <UndiFineD> While I do support having a bugs FG lateron, I think it is too early to set one up before alpha
 17:10:57 <MrChrisDruif> JackyAlcine: Your right, but still the majority was against now :)
 17:11:12 <Daniel0108> Now another question. What is the process to get a mentor?
 17:11:47 <Daniel0108> First you have to join the team, of course
 17:11:51 <hajour> i am mentor and i don't either know :)
 17:11:59 <UndiFineD> not much diffirent than from UBT, announce you want one :)
 17:12:09 <Daniel0108> hajour, we are talking about SpeechControl mentors :)
 17:12:25 <Daniel0108> okay, good, so we will just take the UBT mentorship system ;)
 17:12:37 <hajour> i am in speechcontrol
 17:12:40 <MrChrisDruif> Daniel0108: What does/is a SpeechControl mentor....what is his area of expertise?
 17:12:54 <Daniel0108> MrChrisDruif: We have focus groups, like in UBT :)
 17:13:05 <Daniel0108> a mentor helps people to get into the team
 17:13:14 <Daniel0108> and to join a FG
 17:13:17 <Daniel0108> like in UBT :)
 17:13:21 <JackyAlcine> Hold on, Daniel0108, a suggestion.
 17:13:33 <Daniel0108> okay
 17:13:37 <JackyAlcine> Why not, instead of creating a whole new team, just collaborate with UBT?
 17:13:47 <JackyAlcine> It saves time and pools human resources.
 17:13:54 <MrChrisDruif> We "are" a FG of UBT
 17:13:56 <hajour> agree with JackyAlcine
 17:14:05 <Daniel0108> MrChrisDruif: good idea
 17:14:09 <UndiFineD> +1 JackyAlcine
 17:14:11 <phillw> it is why I have suggested JackyAlcine become UndiFineD padawan.
 17:14:27 <Daniel0108> #vote Create a SpeechControl FG for UBT
 17:14:27 <meetingology> Please vote on: Create a SpeechControl FG for UBT
 17:14:27 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
 17:14:39 <phillw> -1
 17:14:39 <meetingology> -1 received from phillw
 17:14:39 <MrChrisDruif> We fall under the dev and accessibility things
 17:14:41 <Daniel0108> please vote now, if you want a UBT FG named SpeechControl :)
 17:14:45 <igii> what is a FG
 17:14:50 <UndiFineD> -1
 17:14:51 <meetingology> -1 received from UndiFineD
 17:14:51 <Daniel0108> igii: Focus Group
 17:14:55 <MrChrisDruif> -1
 17:14:55 <meetingology> -1 received from MrChrisDruif
 17:14:55 <Muscovy> +0
 17:14:56 <igii> ohh
 17:15:00 <hajour> -1
 17:15:00 <meetingology> -1 received from hajour
 17:15:01 <igii> +0
 17:15:02 <MrChrisDruif> It's not our call even :D
 17:15:04 <Daniel0108> MrChrisDruif: it was your suggestion ;)
 17:15:04 <phillw> igii: a focus group
 17:15:19 <Daniel0108> yeah, but just if we WANT one :)
 17:15:22 <JackyAlcine> Hm. I'm against this. We can use UBT.
 17:15:22 <UndiFineD> Daniel0108: we are part of UBT and ubuntu accessibility
 17:15:24 <JackyAlcine> -1
 17:15:24 <meetingology> -1 received from JackyAlcine
 17:15:35 <phillw> we are already accepted under dev FG
 17:15:41 <Daniel0108> okay good.
 17:15:45 <Daniel0108> #endvote
 17:15:45 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Create a SpeechControl FG for UBT
 17:15:45 <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:5 Abstentions:0
 17:15:45 <meetingology> Motion denied
 17:15:50 <MrChrisDruif> You miss interpreted me Daniel0108 :)
 17:15:57 <Daniel0108> MrChrisDruif: sorry ;)
 17:16:08 <Daniel0108> any suggestions/questions left?
 17:16:19 <UndiFineD> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Development/Projects
 17:16:27 <UndiFineD> look at the bottom
 17:16:54 <Daniel0108> UndiFineD: okay good :)
 17:17:27 <hajour> UndiFineD,  and i already had arranged that Daniel0108
 17:17:41 <Daniel0108> okay, hajour
 17:17:53 <Daniel0108> JackyAlcine: please start with the Status of libopenmary
 17:17:57 <JackyAlcine> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Development/Projects

Openmary In Ubuntu

 17:18:05 <JackyAlcine> #topic Openmary In Ubuntu
 17:18:05 <meetingology> TOPIC: Openmary In Ubuntu
 17:18:33 <JackyAlcine> Alright, the development team has struggled to provide a simple API for openMary in Ubuntu.
 17:19:03 <JackyAlcine> It typically uses a normal HTTP request to send messages and synthesize text.
 17:19:54 <JackyAlcine> So we'd decided to implement a API for C++ and Python apps.
 17:20:09 <JackyAlcine> We're planning to integrate openMary into Speech Dispatcher so that applications like Orca can use it.
 17:20:10 <igii> whats a API
 17:20:19 <UndiFineD> what are the problems ?
 17:20:27 <JackyAlcine> API = Application Programming Interface.
 17:20:32 <igii> thx
 17:20:35 <JackyAlcine> We can't play audoi.
 17:20:44 <MrChrisDruif> igii: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Api
 17:20:52 <JackyAlcine> s/oi/io
 17:21:06 <JackyAlcine> We've tried ALSA, Pulse, libao, QSound!
 17:21:25 <JackyAlcine> And with no results besides a POP! or PEEP! noise.
 17:21:34 <UndiFineD> what kind of skill is needed ?
 17:21:50 <hajour> thank you UndiFineD
 17:21:58 <JackyAlcine> Audio streaming knowledge is exactly what we need.
 17:22:20 <MrChrisDruif> hajour: I thought you said someone with audio skills had joined the team
 17:22:37 <JackyAlcine> With that, we can continue to implement the rest of the API supported by openMary like SSML (Speech Sythensis Markup Language)
 17:23:08 <UndiFineD> JackyAlcine: wouldnt that be something to ask from bill ?
 17:23:16 <UndiFineD> waywardgeek i think
 17:23:19 <hajour> and dreamstudio can he do something to help with this?
 17:23:39 <hajour> https://launchpad.net/~dreamstudio
 17:23:41 <JackyAlcine> waywardgeek's having a bit of a tech breakthough; I forgot to mention.
 17:23:41 <UndiFineD> oh yes, him too
 17:23:51 <hajour> he is a new team member
 17:23:55 <JackyAlcine> Hopefully, his work's pulling through.
 17:24:08 <JackyAlcine> Well, I haven't seen him around; I'll just ping him about then.
 17:24:12 <hajour> and tenach
 17:24:23 <JackyAlcine> tenach's a Pythoner.
 17:24:29 <JackyAlcine> But we must move on.
 17:24:34 <hajour> he has said when you need him to mail him JackyAlcine
 17:24:39 <UndiFineD> ;invite waywardgeek
 17:24:47 <JackyAlcine> Daniel0108: let's talk about the two new projects.
 17:24:55 <hajour> dreamstudio i  mean JackyAlcine

uVRT and InfernoBot

 17:24:56 <JackyAlcine> #topic uVRT and InfernoBot
 17:24:56 <meetingology> TOPIC: uVRT and InfernoBot
 17:25:07 <Daniel0108> okay, let's start with InfernoBot
 17:25:10 <JackyAlcine> I'll do so, hajour.
 17:25:17 <Daniel0108> InfernoBot is a talking IRC bot.
 17:25:19 * hajour is reading Daniel0108
 17:25:42 <Daniel0108> Let's talk about the blueprints of Inferno
 17:26:02 <Daniel0108> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/infernobot
 17:26:33 <Daniel0108> We need programmers for each blueprint
 17:26:43 <JackyAlcine> More than one is welcome and recommended.
 17:26:47 <Daniel0108> yes
 17:26:48 <UndiFineD> what skills Daniel0108 ?
 17:26:54 <hajour> which skills Daniel0108
 17:27:06 <Daniel0108> UndiFineD: Serverside API of inferno is written in Python.
 17:27:12 <Daniel0108> you need socket skills
 17:27:18 <Daniel0108> because you have to write an IRC bot :)
 17:27:29 <Daniel0108> the clientside API is python and c++
 17:27:36 <hajour> how many from which i want to have a list then i can help Daniel0108
 17:27:47 <Daniel0108> there is a plugin for irc clients
 17:27:52 <phillw> I'm sure you have already kidnapped pedro to that project?
 17:27:54 <Daniel0108> for the serverside api we already have enough ;)
 17:27:57 <Daniel0108> yes, phillw
 17:28:03 <Daniel0108> pedro, igii and jamie
 17:28:13 <Daniel0108> and MichealH and jasono
 17:28:22 <Daniel0108> work on the serverside API
 17:28:34 <Daniel0108> but we need programmers for the client
 17:28:35 <MrChrisDruif> Woow...5 on serverside alone?
 17:28:46 <Daniel0108> MrChrisDruif: yes :)
 17:28:51 <MrChrisDruif> Alright...
 17:28:56 <UndiFineD> ok Daniel0108 if you need more people, make a list of skill specifiaction for hajour
 17:28:56 <Daniel0108> but only Jacky writing the mary bridge for the client...
 17:29:07 <Daniel0108> I'll do this, UndiFineD.
 17:29:16 * JackyAlcine =/
 17:29:18 <UndiFineD> #note
 17:29:30 <Daniel0108> Any questions about blueprints? or feature requests?
 17:29:33 <UndiFineD> or #action
 17:29:54 <JackyAlcine> #action Make a list of individuals to work on the Client-Side of InfernoBot.
 17:29:54 * meetingology Make a list of individuals to work on the Client-Side of InfernoBot.
 17:29:59 <UndiFineD> yes
 17:30:02 <Daniel0108> thanks, Jacky :)
 17:30:05 <MrChrisDruif> Thanks JackyAlcine :)
 17:30:05 <UndiFineD> there was a vote
 17:30:34 <JackyAlcine> Shall I commence with VRT?
 17:30:37 <UndiFineD> to either be inside a chatclient, or a separate bot
 17:30:43 <Daniel0108> please wait, Jacky
 17:31:09 <Daniel0108> last part of the InfernoBot agenda is that InfernoBot is only part of speechcontrol and not UAIT.
 17:31:22 <UndiFineD> what was the outcome ?
 17:31:24 <Daniel0108> The InfernoBot is not an AI, just a normal IRC bot like DragonEyes ;)
 17:31:49 <hajour> ok Daniel0108 :)
 17:32:11 <Daniel0108> now you can start with VRT, JackyAlcien
 17:32:16 <Daniel0108> *JackyAlcine
 17:32:22 <JackyAlcine> Alright.
 17:32:25 <UndiFineD> no DA
 17:32:29 <JackyAlcine> DA?
 17:32:31 <Daniel0108> DA?
 17:32:32 <UndiFineD> Daniel0108:
 17:32:35 <hajour> i think that is better to Daniel0108  because AI will take a long time before it will ready i think
 17:32:38 <UndiFineD> what was the outcome ? of the vote
 17:32:52 <Daniel0108> UndiFineD, which vote?
 17:32:52 <JackyAlcine> Oh, yes. the poll results online.
 17:33:33 <JackyAlcine> The poll you posted online, Daniel0108
 17:33:40 <Daniel0108> oh okay
 17:33:44 <UndiFineD> for people who need spoken chat, like hajour having it inside the irc client would be more handy
 17:33:48 <Daniel0108> yes, thanks for the info UndiFineD.
 17:33:50 <UndiFineD> as they can take it with them
 17:34:07 <Daniel0108> We will write an IRC chat plugin ;)
 17:34:15 <Daniel0108> it's much easier
 17:34:24 <Daniel0108> and you don't have to install a new client
 17:34:34 <UndiFineD> so is it a bot or a plugin ?
 17:34:49 <Daniel0108> UndiFineD: There is a Serverside API and a Clientside API
 17:34:54 <Daniel0108> the serverside on is a bot
 17:35:01 <MrChrisDruif> Indeed.....we have enough chatter about xchat vs pidgin vs irssi :P
 17:35:03 <UndiFineD> a plugin for xchat is almost the same as for irssii
 17:35:04 <Daniel0108> and the clientside one is a irc client plugin
 17:35:54 <JackyAlcine> Ah, okay, I see the confusion. We can't have two things doing the same thing; we have to choose between making an TTS IRC bot or a TTS plugin.
 17:36:08 <JackyAlcine> Otherwise; we'd be splitting our resources then.
 17:36:09 <JackyAlcine> *thin
 17:36:17 <igii> whats TTS?
 17:36:25 <MrChrisDruif> Text to speech igii
 17:36:27 <UndiFineD> Text-to-Speech
 17:36:30 <igii> thx
 17:36:40 <Daniel0108> JackyAlcine: it's a TTS plugin, but the bot is parsing the speech ;)
 17:36:47 <Daniel0108> it's like:
 17:37:37 <UndiFineD> text->client->server->client ?
 17:37:42 <MrChrisDruif> Bot receives text and sends it to the plugin, which does TTS?
 17:37:44 <MrChrisDruif> :D
 17:37:47 <Daniel0108> Client->Text->Bot->Bot generates Speech request->Client->Client generates and plays the Speech
 17:37:48 <JackyAlcine> The plugin can do that by itself; the bot seems like a bit of extra overhead. We can go and develop a plugin and IRC bot, just can't have the bot talking to the plugin.
 17:38:06 <JackyAlcine> Or. lol, Client > Plugin > libopenmary .. done.
 17:38:12 <Daniel0108> yes
 17:38:14 <JackyAlcine> Just an idea.
 17:38:36 <JackyAlcine> Ah, we'll need some UML diagrams for this one.
 17:38:42 <Daniel0108> the bot is just a normal IRC bot that can handle audio requests
 17:39:08 <UndiFineD> hajour is going to link something
 17:39:13 <hajour> http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=33
 17:39:28 <hajour> http://bloc.eurion.net/archives/2010/espeak-gui-0-2/comment-page-1/#
 17:39:32 <Daniel0108> #link http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=33
 17:39:37 <Daniel0108> #link http://bloc.eurion.net/archives/2010/espeak-gui-0-2/comment-page-1/#
 17:39:42 <Daniel0108> thanks, hajour
 17:40:01 <JackyAlcine> So we should be aiming for that, hajour? Something a bit like eSpeak?
 17:40:08 <hajour> your havre to thank phillw  for this he give it to me today
 17:40:09 <JackyAlcine> *eSpeak-GUI?
 17:40:12 <UndiFineD> maybe you can find some common code
 17:40:44 <JackyAlcine> Shouldn't be difficult at all.
 17:40:45 <hajour> the plugin can be used to light weight needed pc s
 17:40:53 <Daniel0108> yes
 17:41:11 <JackyAlcine> If anything, I've worked with eSpeak before and libopenmary will give a simpler, effective API.
 17:41:25 <JackyAlcine> The *only* issue is openMary's footprint.
 17:41:43 <Daniel0108> I think the best part of InfernoBot is the STT. Because you can talk and the bot executes commands, like OP, JOIN, PART and so on :)
 17:42:18 <phillw> JackyAlcine: do not forget, we have to keep any bot really small on resource usage.
 17:42:24 <Daniel0108> For example, you say: OP hajour.
 17:42:28 * JackyAlcine chose for us to be here because we're not even halfway thorough the list.
 17:42:40 <Daniel0108> phillw: the bot is hosted
 17:42:49 <JackyAlcine> phillw: The code will be light; it's just openMary, the Java app doing this work.
 17:42:51 <UndiFineD> JackyAlcine: we talked of openmary footprint long ago, and decided to get some things working first and then see how we could make it more optimal
 17:43:05 <JackyAlcine> We have, yet.
 17:43:07 <JackyAlcine> *yes.
 17:43:39 <JackyAlcine> Daniel0108, now?
 17:43:40 <Daniel0108> JackyAlcine: let's move to uVRT now :)

Ubuntu Voice Recognition Toolkit - The GNU HTK

 17:43:54 <JackyAlcine> #topic Ubuntu Voice Recognition Toolkit - The GNU HTK
 17:43:54 <meetingology> TOPIC: Ubuntu Voice Recognition Toolkit - The GNU HTK
 17:44:09 <JackyAlcine> Now, after so many complications with the HTK toolkit,
 17:44:22 <JackyAlcine> I thought that we couldn't replace it entirely, at least not yet,
 17:44:35 <JackyAlcine> but we can improve voice recognition for Linux as a whole.
 17:44:52 <JackyAlcine> Thus Ubuntu Voice Recognition Toolkit, or uVRT for short.
 17:45:04 <JackyAlcine> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpeechControl/Blueprints/cmusphinx-train
 17:45:17 <MrChrisDruif> Why is the u small? :P
 17:45:22 <JackyAlcine> that's a blueprint of the initial goals, sample scenario and its usages.
 17:45:40 <UndiFineD> very nice work Jacky, I had fun translating
 17:45:43 <JackyAlcine> MrChrisDruif: The logo for it will be that micro 'u'.
 17:45:53 <MrChrisDruif> Alright...
 17:45:54 <JackyAlcine> Thank you, UndiFineD, but there's much more to be done.
 17:46:22 <JackyAlcine> I've contacted one of the managers of VoxForge, the online GPL speech corpus,
 17:46:42 <JackyAlcine> and he's supporting this project and gave me specifications of uploads.
 17:47:03 <JackyAlcine> There's a grave issue I've encountered, though, with uVRT, and it's the same that hampers libopenmary
 17:47:12 <JackyAlcine> We can't record or play back audio.
 17:47:30 <JackyAlcine> The moment that this is solved, we'll work on the next part of it: customized sessions.

 17:48:00 <JackyAlcine> Having the ability to read text you specify and train a local voice recognition to it is exactly something that promotes training and further enhances work.
 17:48:01 <MrChrisDruif> JackyAlcine: We can not or may not?
 17:48:21 <JackyAlcine> May not; simply because all of Abhinva1 and my attempts were futile.
 17:48:24 <MrChrisDruif> As in technical or license-wise...
 17:48:29 <JackyAlcine> Technical,
 17:48:33 <MrChrisDruif> Alright
 17:48:40 <JackyAlcine> We're 100% GPL3 + CC BY SA 3
 17:48:40 <JackyAlcine> '
 17:49:09 <MrChrisDruif> Great :)
 17:49:19 <UndiFineD> JackyAlcine: sounds also something to ask of dream ....
 17:49:23 <JackyAlcine> Also, for this project, I'd like at least 5 C++ programmers with a bit of knowledge of GTKmm, GConf and audio streaming.
 17:49:34 <JackyAlcine> #note Contact dreamstudio for audio work.
 17:49:46 <JackyAlcine> #action Contact dreamstudio for audio work.
 17:49:46 * meetingology Contact dreamstudio for audio work.
 17:49:59 <JackyAlcine> That's about it for uVRT, and also
 17:50:19 <JackyAlcine> an alpha should rolling around the 21st, uVRT 0.3a "Talkie Talkie".
 17:50:39 <JackyAlcine> And now, Daniel0108, the standings?

Standings with SpeechControl Development

 17:50:49 <JackyAlcine> #topic Standings with SpeechControl Development
 17:50:49 <meetingology> TOPIC: Standings with SpeechControl Development
 17:50:56 <UndiFineD> wow, that is incrediable
 17:51:26 <Daniel0108> Okay. We are currently working on libopenmary.
 17:51:43 <hajour> very nice
 17:52:08 <Daniel0108> but we have problems with audio output.
 17:52:28 <UndiFineD> JackyAlcine: another resource: http://www.doom9.org/
 17:52:31 <phillw> drat https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nav.coder has just logged out .... I'll get him kidnapped :)
 17:52:34 <Daniel0108> another project is Inferno and uVRT, but we've already talked about it ;)
 17:52:44 <JackyAlcine> #link http://www.doom9.org
 17:52:51 <Daniel0108> let's talk about Wintermute ;)

Wintermute

 17:52:56 <Daniel0108> #topic Wintermute
 17:52:56 <meetingology> TOPIC: Wintermute
 17:53:17 <JackyAlcine> Wintermute's the project that SpeechControl's indirectly and directly related to.
 17:53:19 <Daniel0108> First of all Wintermute is part of UAIT.
 17:53:20 <hajour> very nice phillw wolfpack i wanted very much for the team
 17:53:40 <Daniel0108> but SpeechControl developers are working on Wintermute too :)
 17:53:53 <Daniel0108> it's like: SpeechControl Developers <-> Wintermute Developers
 17:54:08 <JackyAlcine> Unknowingly, our openmary project is going to be something Wintermute depends on.
 17:54:08 <igii> UAIT what?
 17:54:16 <JackyAlcine> UAIT = Ubuntu Artificial Intelligence Team.
 17:54:16 <Daniel0108> yes
 17:54:29 <igii> ohh thx
 17:54:43 <UndiFineD> hello georgs
 17:54:43 <hajour> hai georgs
 17:54:48 <georgs> hi ;)
 17:54:51 <igii> hy georgs
 17:54:58 <UndiFineD> we are in a developers meeting
 17:55:06 <Daniel0108> Wintermute needs SpeechControl for its accessibility capabilities like Voice Recognition and Speech Synthesis
 17:55:20 <Daniel0108> We are going to combine Inferno and Wintermute ;)
 17:55:33 <Daniel0108> Inferno is the Accessibility part, and Wintermute the UAIT one :)
 17:55:39 <JackyAlcine> more like Wintermute'll consume Inferno, lol.
 17:55:46 <Daniel0108> yep
 17:55:49 <phillw> Daniel0108: the only issue I have is that they are insistent on not coming under the ubuntu banner, even though it is a goal for all linuxes, I need to spend a bit more time to explain the protection of their code to them.
 17:56:23 <Daniel0108> JackyAlcine: let's talk about future projects.
 17:56:26 <JackyAlcine> phillw: Wintermute'll be licensed under the GPL3 and CC BY SA 3 because parts of it can't have some sources, ie: voice models.

Future Projects

 17:56:41 <JackyAlcine> #topic Future Projects!
 17:56:41 <meetingology> TOPIC: Future Projects!
 17:56:42 <Daniel0108> #topic Future projects
 17:56:42 <meetingology> TOPIC: Future projects
 17:56:44 <Daniel0108> oops
 17:56:47 <Daniel0108> sorry, JackyAlcine ;)
 17:56:49 <JackyAlcine> Lol, it's cool.
 17:57:13 <JackyAlcine> hajour had the fantastic idea of having a Chrome and Mozilla extenstion that could dictate text on a page.
 17:57:28 <igii> cool
 17:57:40 <JackyAlcine> For THIS nice little project, we'll need people who are familiar with JavaScript and the XUL platform (Mozilla)
 17:57:42 <MrChrisDruif> (Who wanted a one hour meeting again? ;) :P)
 17:57:47 <hajour> i already forgot i have had that idea
 17:57:49 <hajour> XD
 17:58:04 <JackyAlcine> hajour: We didn't.
 17:58:05 <Daniel0108> JackyAlcine: I can work on it :)
 17:58:21 <phillw> JackyAlcine: bringing wintermute under the the ubuntu banner would give them also the protection of Canonical - They do not take prisoners if a commercial company tries to steal code.
 17:58:37 <JackyAlcine> phillw: The S.I.I is being set up for that exact reason.
 17:58:41 <MrChrisDruif> GTG
 17:59:03 <JackyAlcine> #action Daniel0108 leads the chrome-dictate and mozilla-dictate plugins.
 17:59:03 * meetingology Daniel0108 leads the chrome-dictate and mozilla-dictate plugins.
 17:59:15 <hajour> uhm i want to say something
 17:59:31 <JackyAlcine> AND something off hajour's idea; we were thinking adding functionality to Nautilus as well.
 17:59:39 <JackyAlcine> hajour: Take the floor.
 17:59:58 <hajour> all is say by Daniel0108  and JackyAlcine  for to do but don't forget we have more people here who can do things
 18:00:44 <UndiFineD> yes there are other padawan who want to learn your ways, teach them and double your efforts
 18:00:44 <hajour> spread it a bit more over the team
 18:01:00 <JackyAlcine> I'm more than willing :D
 18:01:10 <hajour> its also a good way to learn
 18:01:12 <JackyAlcine> but they have to speak up and be here *glares at them*
 18:01:24 * Daniel0108 nods
 18:01:26 <JackyAlcine> dualbus? :D
 18:01:35 <UndiFineD> the timing of this meeting ... :)
 18:01:37 <dualbus> hi
 18:01:58 <JackyAlcine> Well, we're technically done expect for one thing.
 18:01:58 <phillw> ;ubt | JackyAlcine
 18:02:00 <DragonEyes> JackyAlcine: UBT is an area where people who want to give something back to the Ubuntu family are given help to achieve it. Take a tour of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/MissionStatement and ask on here or #ubuntu-beginners-team for more information.
 18:02:10 <hajour> JackyAlcine, send the logs to the team members with the ask or who want to do what
 18:02:28 <JackyAlcine> hajour: Alrighty.
 18:02:32 <Daniel0108> JackyAlcine: nautilus-voicecontrol and the speechcontrol-api is missing ;)
 18:02:35 <hajour> because a part could not be here by the meeting
 18:02:40 <UndiFineD> ask, assign, kidnap
 18:02:51 <JackyAlcine> AAK? :D Sounds like a slogan.
 18:02:56 <Daniel0108> yeah :)
 18:02:58 <JackyAlcine> And yes, nautilus-voicecontrol.
 18:03:19 <Daniel0108> #action AAK (Ask, assign, kidnap)
 18:03:19 * meetingology AAK (Ask, assign, kidnap)

Nautilus voicecontrol

 18:03:42 <Daniel0108> #topic Nautilus voicecontrol
 18:03:42 <meetingology> TOPIC: Nautilus voicecontrol
 18:03:23 <JackyAlcine> Imagine being able to control Nautilus with your voice, Open Folder, Open Documents
 18:03:29 <UndiFineD> no, if done right, nautilus can be controlled from simon
 18:03:45 <JackyAlcine> Hm. That totally slipped my mind.
 18:04:07 <JackyAlcine> #action Nullify the nautilus-voicecontrol project; Simon provides such a functionality.
 18:04:07 * meetingology Nullify the nautilus-voicecontrol project; Simon provides such a functionality.

the speechcontrol-api

 18:04:18 <Daniel0108> #topic the speechcontrol-api
 18:04:18 <meetingology> TOPIC: the speechcontrol-api
 18:04:22 <JackyAlcine> Alright.
 18:04:30 <JackyAlcine> So Linux has a single TTS API.
 18:04:30 <Daniel0108> What can the speechcontrol api do:
 18:04:50 <Daniel0108> We have some ideas:
 18:05:04 <Daniel0108> The speechcontrol api could read the contents of the Ubuntu Help.
 18:05:22 <Daniel0108> And it would be really helpful for blind persons
 18:05:42 <Daniel0108> And we want to replace speechdispatcher as the Linux Speech API :)
 18:05:55 <Daniel0108> Let's start a vote:
 18:05:55 <JackyAlcine> Hold on, Daniel0108, I didn't clarify that point, lol.
 18:06:02 <Daniel0108> JackyAlcine: oh okay ;)
 18:06:22 <JackyAlcine> Alright, Linux has an approved TTS API, namely speechdispatcher.
 18:06:45 <JackyAlcine> It allows multiple speech synthesis engines to be used by one API for programmers.
 18:07:00 <JackyAlcine> We taught of making a similar API, just for speech recognition.
 18:07:14 <JackyAlcine> Thus, the speechcontrol-api
 18:07:29 <Daniel0108> hi akshatj
 18:07:39 <UndiFineD> that seems much more sane JackyAlcine
 18:07:51 <hajour> hai akshatj  we are in the meeting
 18:07:58 <JackyAlcine> Lol, yeah, should have fixed it.
 18:08:01 <UndiFineD> so besides simon choice could be made for say vedics
 18:08:06 <phillw> JackyAlcine: we use everything that is there
 18:08:34 <JackyAlcine> Software re-use is key.
 18:08:39 <UndiFineD> \o/
 18:08:46 <UndiFineD> cheers for that
 18:08:51 <Daniel0108> #action Re-use software
 18:08:51 * meetingology Re-use software
 18:09:00 * JackyAlcine looks at the agenda.
 18:09:07 <phillw> there is no point in trying to re-invent the wheel.
 18:09:08 <JackyAlcine> Gah, we're technically done, any questions?
 18:09:09 <Daniel0108> JackyAlcine: last part, a vote :)
 18:09:13 <JackyAlcine> For?
 18:09:24 <Daniel0108> Do you want speechcontrol on other platforms?
 18:09:30 <Daniel0108> #vote Do you want speechcontrol on other platforms?
 18:09:30 <meetingology> Please vote on: Do you want speechcontrol on other platforms?
 18:09:30 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
 18:09:34 <UndiFineD> +1
 18:09:34 <meetingology> +1 received from UndiFineD
 18:09:36 <Daniel0108> +1
 18:09:36 <meetingology> +1 received from Daniel0108
 18:09:37 <Muscovy> +1
 18:09:37 <meetingology> +1 received from Muscovy
 18:09:38 <JackyAlcine> +1
 18:09:38 <meetingology> +1 received from JackyAlcine
 18:09:42 <hajour> +1
 18:09:42 <meetingology> +1 received from hajour
 18:09:43 <igii> +1
 18:09:43 <meetingology> +1 received from igii
 18:09:43 <phillw> +1
 18:09:43 <meetingology> +1 received from phillw
 18:09:47 <georgs> +1
 18:09:47 <meetingology> +1 received from georgs
 18:09:49 <JackyAlcine> We're aiming for Fedora and Mandriva first.
 18:09:58 <JackyAlcine> after (L)Ubuntu.
 18:10:03 <akshatj> +1
 18:10:03 <meetingology> +1 received from akshatj
 18:10:09 <Daniel0108> later, openSUSE
 18:10:31 <Daniel0108> JackyAlcine: First (L)Ubuntu, then Debian(of course), then fedora and mandriva, and then openSUSE
 18:10:32 <JackyAlcine> All votes accounted for?
 18:10:38 <JackyAlcine> Ubuntu = Debian.
 18:10:43 <Daniel0108> yes I know ;)
 18:10:46 <UndiFineD> actually I think we have support from opensuse faster than fedora
 18:10:54 <UndiFineD> #opensuse-a11y
 18:10:59 <Daniel0108> okay
 18:11:01 <Daniel0108> #endvote
 18:11:01 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Do you want speechcontrol on other platforms?
 18:11:01 <meetingology> Votes for:9 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
 18:11:01 <meetingology> Motion carried
 18:11:07 <JackyAlcine> Alright. on that note
 18:11:08 <Daniel0108> "Votes for:9" wow :D
 18:11:10 <JackyAlcine> #endmeeting

#title #ubuntu-speechcontrol-devs Meeting

Meeting started by UndiFineD at 18:12:03 UTC.

Any Other Business

 18:12:03 <UndiFineD> #startmeeting
 18:12:03 <meetingology> Meeting started Sat Feb 12 18:12:03 2011 UTC.  The chair is UndiFineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell.
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 18:12:17 <Daniel0108> wow, that was a great meeting :D
 18:12:19 <hajour> uhm in my remembering there is at the end of a meeting space for questions or things to say
 18:12:20 <UndiFineD> #topic any other business
 18:12:20 <meetingology> TOPIC: any other business
 18:12:33 <UndiFineD> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpeechControl/Talks/
 18:12:52 <UndiFineD> on the 4th os march I will hold a lightning talk
 18:12:55 * Daniel0108 didn't end the meeting O:-)
 18:13:24 <UndiFineD> it will be in #ubuntu-classroom
 18:13:44 <UndiFineD> somewhere after 20.00 UTC
 18:13:50 <phillw> UndiFineD: you may like to link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpeechControl/Talks/2011-03-04_UDW
 18:14:06 <JackyAlcine> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpeechControl/Talks/2011-03-04_UDW
 18:14:07 <UndiFineD> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpeechControl/Talks/2011-03-04_UDW
 18:14:16 <JackyAlcine> lol, im not even chaired.
 18:14:18 <UndiFineD> anyone else ?
 18:14:31 <JackyAlcine> PROGRAMMERS, beware my wrath!
 18:14:34 <JackyAlcine> That's all.
 18:14:55 <phillw> I'd like to say a few words... if that is okay with you devs?
 18:15:01 <Daniel0108> it's okay, phillw
 18:15:02 <JackyAlcine> Sure.
 18:15:10 * JackyAlcine tosses phillw the mic.
 18:16:25 <phillw> this project has done so much in such a short time. I know from my chats across various channels that you have an enormous amount of good will.
 18:17:44 <phillw> I'm still mystified as to how hajour managed to assemble such an awesome team so quickly.
 18:18:09 <hajour> well  i had help from everyone here from the team phillw
 18:18:18 <hajour> its not my work alone
 18:18:18 <UndiFineD> thanks phillw
 18:18:44 <phillw> hajour: there was no team - you built it!
 18:19:00 <JackyAlcine> Lol, indeed hajour, this is your "brainchild". :D
 18:19:10 <UndiFineD> I would also like to remind, that while we are called speechcontrol, have a read on
 18:19:13 <UndiFineD> #link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense
 18:19:13 <hajour> no there where teams i only have pull them together with new people to
 18:19:39 <UndiFineD> and keep in mind there are people with more than one disability
 18:20:00 <UndiFineD> having the posibility to choose means freedom
 18:20:53 <leoquant> very late had diner: and workshop python at 19.30
 18:20:53 <JackyAlcine> A great freedom that some are robbed from for no reason.
 18:20:55 <leoquant> sorry
 18:21:10 <hajour> i just have pulled the people together to combine there knowledge
 18:21:10 <JackyAlcine> leoquant: No problem.
 18:21:21 <UndiFineD> can i end this meeting ?
 18:21:47 <hajour> yes UndiFineD
 18:21:55 <hajour> np leoquant
 18:21:59 <UndiFineD> #endmeeting

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