• 2012-07-05 Meeting (log):

  • Developer Membership Board catch-up
    • Discussed process and frequency of meetings
    • There was some concern that interest in the MOTU community had waned, but "there were several sessions at UDS and I think we're hoping that the reinvigoration will lead to more applicants"
    • It was brought up that some feel "PPAs and extras.ubuntu.com have reduced the incentive to get involved in the distro"
    • Discussed some of how Ubuntu Membership and Ubuntu Developers teams are related, sometimes a PPU may want to be granted but this gives them Ubuntu Membership automatically and they may not have satisfied typical requirements for Ubuntu Membership otherwise; the proposal to decouple upload rights from membership was brought up
      • ACTION: beuno to start a thread with the DMB and CC to discuss the topics that have come from todays meeting

  • Charm review board: https://juju.ubuntu.com/CharmReviewBoard

    • jcastro introduced the juju Charm Review Board
      • juju core devs who may or may not be ubuntu members
      • the ~charmers, which are reviewers
      • the review board would be made up of ~charmers
    • Follow up with the rest of the CC online about whether there is anything the CC needs to do

• 2012-07-19 Meeting (log):

  • Bot summary

  • IRC Council meet-up
    • They have a new batch of operators from when they processed all the queues
    • arranged some training sessions for them this afternoon for next thursday and the week after
    • went through an election process and filled the 5th seat on the council and are really happy to have tm_t as the new council member
    • the new #ubuntu-discuss channel has been set up, "could be a little noisier, there have been a number of interesting and productive discussions there" so they are nurturing it to see if it will work

    • put together https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/SupportersGuide as a guide for helpers

    • They'd like to encourage more of their ops to come to UDS
    • Nothing specific coming up that they need assistance with

Developer Membership Board meeting, 2012-07-16

Chair: Benjamin Drung

Present: Cody A.W. Somerville, Iain Lane, Micah Gersten, Stéphane Graber

Review of previous Minutes

• micahg to document the zentyal packageset
• everyone try and be at CC meeting July 5th 17:00 UTC
• micahg to start a discussion on dmb@ about whether PPU should confer membership

core-dev Application: Iain Lane

Application: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IainLane/CoreDevApplication

The application was discussed, voted on, and accepted: For: 5 (Stefano Rivera via Email, Benjamin Drung, Cody A.W. Somerville, Micah Gersten, Stéphane Graber) Against: 0 Abstained: 1 (Iain Lane)

Developer Membership Board meeting, 2012-07-02

Meeting started by Laney at 14:11:10 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-02-14.11.log.html .

Meeting summary

• Review of previous action items
  • micahg to document the zentyal packageset (Laney, 14:11:28)

ACTION: micahg document the zentyal packageset (Laney, 14:11:43)

• invitation to appear before the CC on 5 July (Laney, 14:12:08)

ACTION: everyone try and be at CC meeting July 5th 17:00 UTC (Laney, 14:14:29) ACTION: micahg to start a discussion on dmb@ about whether PPU should confer membership (Laney, 14:15:32)

• Ubuntu Contributing Developer Application: Vibhav Pant

LINK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers describes a requirement for "significant and sustained contributions" which is normally understood as 6 months (tumbleweed, 14:20:10) ACTION: chair for next meeting (Laney, 14:37:33)

Meeting ended at 14:38:26 UTC.

Votes

• Should Vibhav Pant Pant become an Ubuntun Contributing Developer
  • For: 0 Against: 3 Abstained: 0

Action items

• micahg document the zentyal packageset
• everyone try and be at CC meeting July 5th 17:00 UTC
• micahg to start a discussion on dmb@ about whether PPU should confer membership

Action items, by person

• micahg
• * micahg document the zentyal packageset
• * micahg to start a discussion on dmb@ about whether PPU should confer membership

* **UNASSIGNED**

• * everyone try and be at CC meeting July 5th 17:00 UTC

People present (lines said)

• Laney (49)
• tumbleweed (17)
• vibhav (17)
• meetingology (15)
• micahg (12)

• IdleOne (10)

• ikonia (7)

Full Log

• 14:11:10 <Laney> #startmeeting

  14:11:10 <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Jul 2 14:11:10 2012 UTC. The chair is Laney. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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  14:11:20 <Laney> #topic Review of previous action items

  14:11:28 <Laney> #subtopic micahg to document the zentyal packageset

  14:11:30 <Laney> ?

  14:11:33 <micahg> no

  14:11:43 <Laney> #action micahg document the zentyal packageset 14:11:43 * meetingology micahg document the zentyal packageset

  14:11:45 <Laney> carried!

  14:12:08 <Laney> #subtopic invitation to appear before the CC on 5 July

  14:12:10 <Laney> can people be there?

  14:12:19 <tumbleweed> yeah, I probably can 14:12:29 * Laney too

  14:12:33 <tumbleweed> do we have anything on our minds to raise with them? 14:12:51 * micahg should be able to be there

  14:13:01 <Laney> foreshadowing, maybe we can ask about the six month thing

  14:13:05 <Laney> see if we are in line

  14:13:13 <micahg> well, there's the issue of PPU not counting for Ubuntu membership

  14:13:46 <Laney> we don't even have agreement from the dmb that we want that, but we could ask for their guidance.

  14:13:52 <micahg> err, not granting, it should count towards it

  14:14:16 <tumbleweed> we should at least tell them thaht it concerns us, and how we are dealing with it

  14:14:29 <Laney> #action everyone try and be at CC meeting July 5th 17:00 UTC 14:14:29 * meetingology everyone try and be at CC meeting July 5th 17:00 UTC

  14:14:31 <micahg> ok, I'll start a thread on the list then to see if we can get some type of consensus before then

  14:15:00 <Laney> d-m-b@ or -devel@ or?

  14:15:07 <tumbleweed> I'll dig up the transcript of the last such meeting

  14:15:09 <micahg> d-m-b@ for not

  14:15:11 <micahg> *now

  14:15:16 <Laney> ok

  14:15:32 <Laney> #action micahg to start a discussion on dmb@ about whether PPU should confer membership 14:15:32 * meetingology micahg to start a discussion on dmb@ about whether PPU should confer membership

  14:15:35 <Laney> onwards

  14:15:46 <Laney> #topic Ubuntu Contributing Developer Application: Vibhav Pant

  14:15:51 <Laney> vibhav: introduce yourself quickly please

  14:15:54 <vibhav> sure

  14:16:04 <vibhav> I am Vibhav Pant, age 14

  14:16:26 <vibhav> I have been using Ubuntu since the age of 9, and was contributing eariler to Ubuntu by translations

  14:16:50 <vibhav> I was introduced to Ubuntu Development by dholbach by the fix it friday initiative

  14:17:12 <vibhav> And immediately fell in love with Ubutnu Community

  14:17:36 <vibhav> I am currently working on NBSes, merges , upstream changes and SRUs

  14:17:50 <Laney> thanks

  14:18:03 <vibhav> My Application can be seen at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VibhavPant/UniverseContributorApplication

  14:18:07 <Laney> who wants to go first? I suggest we use "o/" and "..".

  14:18:10 <Laney> oh yes, I should have linked that.

  14:18:29 <tumbleweed> o/

  14:18:35 <Laney> go

  14:19:22 <tumbleweed> vibhav: you're a fairly recent contributor, essentially applying for membership through ubuntu development

  14:19:31 <vibhav> tumbleweed: Yes

  14:20:10 <tumbleweed> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers describes a requirement for "significant and sustained contributions" which is normally understood as 6 months

  14:20:23 <tumbleweed> have you been developing on ubuntu for that long?

  14:20:28 <vibhav> nope

  14:20:40 <tumbleweed> were you aware of that requirement?

  14:20:45 <vibhav> nope

  14:20:50 <ikonia> I'm sorry that is not true

  14:21:06 <ikonia> other membership boards have made it clear the "sustained requirements" period minimum

  14:21:09 <micahg> vibhav: I told you about that in #ubuntu-motu

  14:21:28 <vibhav> micahg: yeah, I forgot

  14:21:32 <vibhav> So, please continue

  14:21:47 <IdleOne> o/

  14:22:06 <tumbleweed> .. for now

  14:23:03 <Laney> o/

  14:23:33 <Laney> vibhav: please explain https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VibhavPant/UniverseContributorApplication?action=diff&rev1=46&rev2=47 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VibhavPant/UniverseContributorApplication?action=diff&rev1=44&rev2=45

  14:23:39 <IdleOne> I would just like to reiterate my comments that were also made at a precious Regional membership board meeting. I do not think vibhav is mature enough to be considered for Ubuntu membership. He lacks the necessary "team spirit" this community is built on. I strongly suggest his application be rejected until he can show more of the needed qualities. I am also concerned with the recent changes that were applied to the wiki page i.e comments

  14:23:39 <IdleOne> being removed.

  14:23:50 <IdleOne> s/precious/previous/

  14:24:03 <vibhav> Laney: restored

  14:24:14 <tumbleweed> IdleOne: thanks for bringing it to our attention

  14:24:23 <IdleOne> My pleasure.

  14:24:29 <Laney> I know that micahg put it back again.

  14:24:38 <Laney> I'm concerned about why you thought trying to hide it from us was appropriate.

  14:24:49 <vibhav> sorry

  14:26:13 <Laney> We might have been able to have a discussion about the content of the comment, but that is now overshadowed by this, IMHO.

  14:26:36 <vibhav> I agree, that was really stupid of me

  14:26:45 <ikonia> it's not the first time you've done it

  14:26:50 <tumbleweed> yeah, one of the most important things I'm looking for in a prospective Ubuntu developer is trust from other developers

  14:27:04 <ikonia> this whole telling lies thing is getting to be a real insult to the constant applications to the community

  14:27:13 <Laney> I'm also very concerned that you have been to other membership boards and aren't following their advice.

  14:27:44 <IdleOne> vibhav: part of being in a community is being able to accept criticism from your peers and learning from that criticism. Trying to hide it from the DMB was not only stupid, as you put it, but for me it shows a lack of trustworthiness.

  14:28:31 <vibhav> IdleOne: I was never trying to hide it

  14:28:38 <IdleOne> vibhav: I want you to know that I am probably obe of your biggest supporters. The Ubuntu ops team has had more than a few discussions about you.

  14:28:44 <IdleOne> s/obe/one/

  14:29:01 <Laney> ..

  14:29:03 <tumbleweed> vibhav: then why remove it?

  14:29:23 <IdleOne> I am always trying to point out that you do have the potential but you don't want to do the work involved. This latest incident has really disappointed me.

  14:29:48 <IdleOne> Thanks to the DMB for letting me speak, sorry i took so much time.

  14:30:04 <tumbleweed> IdleOne: the "Things I can do better" paint a similar picture

  14:30:14 <ikonia> I'm actually considering taking this to the CC

  14:30:18 <tumbleweed> they are all part of "doing the work involved"

  14:30:31 <ikonia> I don't find it acceptable that someone who is a persistant liar and trying to trick people into membership be allowed to continue

  14:30:38 <vibhav> tumbleweed: Yeah, but I dont remember that stuff

  14:30:47 <Laney> ikonia: thanks. We'll take it from here...

  14:30:51 <ikonia> sure

  14:31:16 <Laney> anyone else? micahg?

  14:31:45 <micahg> I think what I wanted to say has been said already

  14:31:55 <Laney> ok, let's vote.

  14:32:10 <Laney> You should note that we don't have quorum so formally this will have to be settled over email.

  14:32:28 <micahg> well, that depends on the vote

  14:32:40 <Laney> #vote Should Vibhav Pant Pant become an Ubuntun Contributing Developer

  14:32:40 <meetingology> Please vote on: Should Vibhav Pant Pant become an Ubuntun Contributing Developer

  14:32:40 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)

  14:32:50 <Laney> (without typo) (with question mark)

  14:33:31 <micahg> -1 only three months of dev work, wiki behaviour is an example not befitting an Ubuntu member regardless

  14:33:31 <meetingology> -1 only three months of dev work, wiki behaviour is an example not befitting an Ubuntu member regardless received from micahg

  14:34:17 <tumbleweed> -1 (as above)

  14:34:17 <meetingology> -1 (as above) received from tumbleweed

  14:34:31 <Laney> -1 Not been contribution for six months (the minimum, as advised). Dishonest behaviour, even when this has clearly been noticed.

  14:34:31 <meetingology> -1 Not been contribution for six months (the minimum, as advised). Dishonest behaviour, even when this has clearly been noticed. received from Laney

  14:34:41 <Laney> #endvote

  14:34:41 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Should Vibhav Pant Pant become an Ubuntun Contributing Developer

  14:34:41 <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:3 Abstentions:0

  14:34:41 <meetingology> Motion denied

  14:35:25 <Laney> If you decide to come back, I suggest you reflect on all of the feedback you've been given.

  14:36:47 <Laney> No quorum. Guess poor Laney has to wait until next time.

  14:37:33 <Laney> #action chair for next meeting 14:37:33 * meetingology chair for next meeting

  14:37:35 <Laney> oops

  14:37:38 <tumbleweed> guess we get to go through together, then (or not at all :P )

  14:37:40 <Laney> #topic chair for next meeting

  14:37:45 <Laney> that's micahg

  14:37:49 <Laney> #topic aob

  14:37:50 <Laney> ?

  14:37:51 <micahg> no, it's barry

  14:38:04 <Laney> oh yeah, barry (micahg) :P

  14:38:22 <Laney> ding ding

  14:38:26 <Laney> #endmeeting

• 6 July 2012 - Ubuntu Hour Kitchener

• 10 July 2012 - Ubuntu-ca IRC Meeting

• 11 July 2012 - Kwartzlab Ubuntu Workshop

• 18 July 2012 - Ubuntu Hour Waterloo

• 27 July 2012 - System Administrator Appreciation Day Dinner (while this was not an Ubuntu Canadian Team event, Ubuntu-ca was well represented)

July 1st: LoCo irc meeting.

July 3rd to 10th: "Ubuntu for trainers" 10 hours course in de Caldes de Montbui.

July 16th: LoCo irc meeting.

• regular sessions in Prague were updated, now we can discuss everything about Ubuntu in new place with typical Vietnamese food

• Czech Ubuntu Wiki is being updated to new DokuWiki system

Translation Team

Calm month, not much to do.

Documentation Team

The wiki was cleaned up. Obsolete and unusable articles have been removed. We also made a status page and improved our own pages further.

Artwork Team

Work on a new wiki theme is underway. The progress is kept in a Launchpad Blueprint.

Promotion Team

There have been no activities last month.

Forum Team

A new notification/warning system for SMF2 has been implemented.

Mwanzo

Mwanzo has given two workshops. Relatively little new members joined. Work is underway to spread the word about Mwanzo. Leoquant is working on two English language pieces for the Planet.

Web Team

Currently a merger is being discussed with the News Team, more info at our mailing list. Ubuntero of the month is momentarily suspended.

Source: http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/community/Meetings/Meeting20120710/VoortgangTeams

CategoryTeamReport

• July 7th : premier samedi du libre (PSL) in Paris. This is a multi-distribution small install fest where around 60 people come to get help configuring and installing their Linux system (http://www.agendadulibre.org/showevent.php?id=6621).

• July from 19th to 22th inclusive : the festival « Les Vieilles Charrues » in Carhaix (http://www.vieillescharrues.asso.fr/2012/), where we put a webcafé stand.

• July 22th : picnic with Mozilla's and other associations members in Paris.
• July 31th : IRC meeting for the re-approval.

Report of July 2012

• Ubuntistas magazine is published on Ubuntu software center
• Members of Ubuntu Greece are started to translate the Ubuntu manual for 12.10
• IRC tranlation meeting for Ubuntu manual 12.10

• We organised an Ubuntu Hour at Pécs: http://ubuntu.hu/node/30896

• The Hungarian translation of the Full Circle Magazine Issue 58 has been released: http://ubuntu.hu/node/31124

• We regularly updated our loco site with the latest news: http://ubuntu.hu

• We did various translation-related tasks

• We attended Open Source Conference 2012 Sendai. Slides and Videos are available from the link below.

  • https://wiki.ubuntulinux.jp/Events/OSC2012Sendai

• A team member Hideki Yamane(a.k.a. henrich) attended DebConf12 in Nicaragua.

  • He talked about the shrink of the Debian archive.

  • http://penta.debconf.org/dc12_schedule/events/930.en.html

• Ubuntu Hour in Nikšić in Studio "RDS63"
• Installation disks disseminating

* Ubunu hour - lectures for beginners were held in Belgrade haklab, every Tuesday.

* Ubuntu LoCo Serbia held lectures about free software in Lovenac.

* Sunday 22. July Ubuntu LoCo Serbia informal geathering at Belgrade.

* Preparations for reaproval.

* On Saturday 7th, 14th, 21th, 28th July Administration team meeting was held.

• Mon, Jul 16: Monthly IRC Meet -- minutes

• Team meetings

  • Sunday, July 1st

  • Sunday, July 15th

  • Sunday, July 29th

• Ubuntu Hours

  • 11 July San Francisco

  • 12 July Pasadena

  • 26 July Mountain View/Silicon Valley

• Member of leadership trio David Wonderly steps down due to moving out of state

No Report This Month

* Event: This month's Madison Ubuntu Hour was July 21. This event is on the third Saturday of each month, and is hosted by Madison LUG. The next Madison Ubuntu Hour will be August 18.

* Monthly Meeting: There was no monthly meeting on IRC this month.

• Deployed new classroom icon (thanks to designer MartinOwens!)

• Jul 11: Introduction to the Ubuntu Development World for Beginners

• Jul 26: Introduction to being an IRC operator

• Jul 26: First Ubuntu on Air event: Alpha Releases Update (video)

• Jul 31: RC Bug Fixing Workflow