* Technical Board meeting, 2009-12-01 (chair mdz)
  * Prior action review, leaves the follow still to do:
   * [ACTION] cjwatson checking on IS RT #36139 to add devel-permissions
   * [ACTION] Scott to redraft Units policy to address Scott's and Matt's concerns and clean up language
   * [ACTION] Colin to clarify trademark/license distinction on licensing policy

  * Archive reorganisation (ColinWatson)
   * [ACTION] cjwatson to create a wiki reference for development teams to participate in the reorg

  * https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UpdatesPolicy
   * Would be good to outline a regression handling policy as well.
   * Default to assuming users want stability.
   * [ACTION] ScottK to revise proposal based on TB meeting discussion

  * When is it a good idea to fail out of a maintainer script? (mdz)
   * Generally, failing preinst is preferred to failing postinst.
   * Generally, daemon start-up failure should not fail postinst.
   * May help to make a distinction between devel and release upgrades.
   * No clear "philosophical" state of being configured, so it's is non-obvious how to decide what should be considered a failure.
   * Would be beneficial to present a straw-man proposal to the Debian TC to coordinate this.
   * Will continue at the next meeting.

  * Community Bugs
   * https://launchpad.net/bugs/485569 "TB term length is unclear"
    * elections single-year staggered with resulting positions having a two-year term.
    * [ACTION] sabdfl to update LP/wiki/www to reflect the actual term length for TB
   * https://launchpad.net/bugs/485971 "Technical Board mailing list archive is private"
    * blocked on IS, now that DMB is up and running.
    * [ACTION] cjwatson to nudge RT 35428

  * Out of time, deferred further review to next meeting

  * Next meeting: kees to chair


 * Technical Board meeting, 2009-12-15 (chair kees)
  * Prior action review
   * Excepting tasks covered under the UnitsPolicy and Kubuntu/UpdatesPolicy discussions below, prior actions were all done.

  * UnitsPolicy
   * Generally okay, but some minor clean-ups still needed.  Could coordinate with Debian.
   * [ACTION] mdz to fix language wrt cmdline meaning in Unit policy
   * [ACTION] kees to present Units policy to Debian TC via bdale

  * Status of ARM port vs. archive publishing (slangasek, mdz)
   * ARM is considered supported for Karmic and later, even though it lives on ports.
   * [ACTION] cjwatson to document meanings of archive vs. ports, cdimage vs. releases, etc.

  * Archive reorganisation (ColinWatson)
   * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers/TeamDelegation
   * [ACTION] cjwatson to add a bit more intro to UbuntuDevelopment/TeamDelegation, and link it from appropriate places
   * [ACTION] cjwatson to follow up with kubuntu-dev and mythbuntu-dev to get ubuntu-core-dev added

  * Kubuntu/UpdatesPolicy
   * [ACTION] ScottK to update policy based on kubuntu upstream feedback
   * [ACTION] kees to follow up with ScottK on Kubuntu/UpdatesPolicy updates

  * Execute Permission Policy (KeesCook)
   * [ACTION] kees to clean up further and re-present at next meeting

  * Check up on community bugs (standing item)
   * https://launchpad.net/bugs/485559 "Mark Shuttleworth has no expiration date set in the tech-board LP team"
    * [ACTION] sabdfl to propose to CC that the TB is a CC delegate, and clarify his role
    * [ACTION] sabdfl to update bug with status and discussion

  * When is it a good idea to fail out of a maintainer script? (Matt Zimmerman)
   * Deferred, ran out of time.

  * Next meeting is Jan 12, 2010.  Chair: cjwatson